@SnobunnieMel I would actually think it would be worse the other way... One place is where the sperm start, but the other is where they end up. And I feel like it would be more likely to affect things on the receiving end. I always unfortunately put the stop on that during FW!
@rainbowturtles So actually it did kind of come true! It was only a tiny little bit but it's there. Things might be moving now.
@Marley629 DH is a big giants fan so football season is tense in our house!
Me: 28 DH: 26 Married: November 2015 TTC#1: January 2016 BFP #1: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16 BFP #2: 10/06/16: 6 - EDD: 06/20/17 DD Born 06/23/17 TFAS: April 2018 BFP #3: 03/21/18 - CP BFP #4: 04/23/18 - EDD 01/04/19
Now that I took a nap I can reply to everyone's posts! Didn't mean to post and ghost. @mrsdaddario good luck at your RE appointment. I hope they give you good news! @Marley629 We use Preseed and definitely enjoy it. I have low CM so I've been trying to do everything possible to fix that. I have also been drinking green tea and I cant decide if it has truly helped. Mucinex seems to be working! I would definitely try that! Also, thank you so much for the kind words!
@adirat@GiddyUp82@BusinessWife@rainbowturtles Thank yall so much for all the support and well wishes! I love having you ladies as a support group. @AngelaPlus3 Welcome back! I hope taking time off from all the charting has helped you de-stress some. FX this will be your month so you won't have to worry about the TTC insanity anymore!
@Dinosaur Cool! Look for the bigger packs of 600mg, just the guafenisen, not the other combo formulations, and do 600mg 2x per day for about 10 days over the course of fertile window. For me, I start that at the same time I start my OPKs (approx CD7-17) so it's it easier i.e. less to think about that way. ;) I may not go the whole ten days tho, if I have confirmed O and we are not worried about BD anymore. Just depends how your cycle goes.
@KhRun17 I was pumped for the US marathon results too! Rupp is going to be really exciting to watch over the next couple of years! I actually just bought Shalane Flanagan's and Alice Kopecky's cookbook... I may or may not have bought it only because of Shalane...
@wabash15 queso and guacamole are sooo good... I kind of forgot about them when I was listing my game day food favorites... but I could easily eat an avocado a day!
@magnolia131I like your style... bumping incognito I totally would do the same thing!
@Nelbetron - let me know how that cookbook is! I have the Runners Cookbook from Rodale/Runners World, and they have some great recipes in there. DH is skeptical of them, so when I do one from there, I have to do it without him seeing where it's from. Haha.
@SP128 - I frequently have temps around 96.7 pre-O, so I wouldn't worry about that. As for ED vs EOD, we tend to do EOD. We tried to do ED once we got a positive OPK, until I knew I had O'd, but DH got a little exhausted and it wasn't worth the stress. So I think we'll stick to EOD this cycle. You can find support for both. Do what works for you two.
@rainbowturtles I actually think I remember seeing 15 minutes somewhere too in the little pamphlet that comes with it. I think it may have said something like "some women choose to insert about 15 minutes before BD so it can be used as lubricant as well". So, maybe it takes 15 minutes or so to settle in??
@swanbrooner Thanks so much. I'm still pretty new at this and my head is spinning with all the information. Thought hubby was going to have a break tonight - oh well he can be a team player : ) I may try to BD a couple days after suspected O day as well.... Just in case. To think that in high school health class the teacher scared all of us into thinking that 1 time of unprotected sex can knock you up. Technically yes, but still.....
Also getting annoyed with seeing this as a plot in SO MANY TV SHOWS!!!! They had sex ONCE, and she's totally KU. I know it really DOES "only take once" TECHNICALLY but ya, super irritating how magically simple Hollywood makes it out to be 99% of the time
@chocolatelemons I honestly swear it said something about not leaving it in too long before BDing because I remember stressing about it once a couple months ago but I got rid of the pamphlet. Does anyone still have the preseed info from the box?? On their website it says you can insert up to an hour before "love making" tho lol So I'm sure it's fine, just confused about what my brain is remembering!!!
@adirat I'll take a closer look at those ingredients on my next cleaning break lol I was expecting to see magnesium in there, because I know it can definitely cause some of the symptoms you described. But so far I would say give the straight Vitex a try; I was just trying to nail down the offensive ingredient for you
DH needs his brother's help to build a fence and said he'd have him come out either next weekend or the long weekend and I immediately said "THE LONG WEEKEND!". This weekend is FW He didn't ask why but he said okay so PHEW!
R/R: being super lazy today. & it's cool enough to not need the AC. The windows are open & I'm loving the fresh air.
Maybe TMI warning: globs of EWCM Friday & Saturday. (More than I've ever had, by far.) DH has been in a slow-pitch softball tournament this weekend & drinking, so no BD. CM seems to have switched to watery again today. I pouted most of yesterday morning because I felt like we were missing FW & I was frustrated with DH for not being able to get it up after drinking. Haven't had anything close to a + OPK yet though. Day 14 or 15 would be almost a week early for me to have O'd & temps aren't skyrocketing. Hopefully we can start EOD tomorrow - if I can convince H....
CS/Q: sorry for that dear diary ^. I had it down here but realized I didn't have a question, so I moved it up with R/R.
GTKY: we love football in our house! H loves the Chiefs, I love the Seahawks. We also watch almost every Pirates game. (Go Buccos!) Sad that the Olympics are over, because we watched them every night.
My favorite dish to make for tailgates is buffalo chicken wing dip. Mmmmmmmm.
@rainbowturtles " Pre- seed Lubricant can be applied prior to starting intercourse. Inserting before allows the moisture to disperse through the V and offers more spontaneity. Many women apply about 15 minutes before intercourse." It also says, "Do not leave it in applicator more than 30 minutes prior to use." It doesn't say anything about the 1 hour rule. I think that came from the website.
@rainbowturtles I have the pamphlet. I actually read it last night. Here are some of the directions. I'm not going to type out all. Let me know if I missed anything you want more info on.
"Pre-seed lubricant can be applied prior to starting intercourse. Inserting it before intercourse allows the moisture to disperse throughout the vagina and offers more spontaneity. Many women apply Pre-seed about 15 minutes before intercourse.
" Do not store product in the applicator for more than 30 minutes prior to use......"
- The directions explain how to use the applicator -
"If this application method doesn't provide enough moisture, we suggest you apply product inside the vagina while lying down in bed, IMMEDIATELY before intercourse. You may also want to squeeze a small amount of the product from the tube onto your fingertips and apply directly to external genitalia."
"If this application method provides too much moisture for you, apply the product either earlier before intercourse (e.g., up to an hour), apply fewer grams of the product (1-2 g) or wipe off the vulvar area with a tissues after applying the produce inside the vagina."
***TW*** Me: 36 DH:35 Married: 7/10/2016 TTC#1 - May 2016 BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016 BFP 5/5/2017 - CP IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161 Adam Born on 3/18/18
I feel like I always log on too late to actually help anyone but I read every single response and am rooting for all of us!
Month/Cycle: 6/7
CD: 18
WAYDTGKU: sex, preseed, temping, checking cm/cp
R/R: Just waiting to confirm O at this point. I think no matter when it happened this week we had decent timing so now it's just the wait. I don't have nearly enough to keep me busy during this upcoming TWW. Even work is getting quiet for a bit. Now might be a good time to deep clean every corner of my house.
CS/Q: nothing today
GTKY: I am totally a social sports fan. I'm loyal to hometown teams by default but if folks are getting together and eating/drinking because of sports, I'm pretty much in there. My favorite thing to bring is bacon wrapped jalapeño poppers.
@chocolatelemons@SP128 Ahhhhh! Do not leave in the APPLICATOR for more than 30min!! I was somehow remembering it as not leaving it inside for more than 30min. That was helpful; thank you, ladies
@rainbowturtles Thanks! There is magnesium in it -- I missed it when I was typing out ingredients before. I took the plain vitex this morning, but I'm not sure if I want to take it again tomorrow. I've also been wondering if I'm having some kind of reaction to pre-seed, which I just started last week. I'm going to stay away from that for a while, I think.
I broke my own cardinal rule of not starting multiple things at once because I was so sure that preseed couldn't do anything harmful. Sigh.
@adirat ah ha! I suspect it's the magnesium causing some of the problems, then As for the preseed giving you a reaction, that totally sucks I tend to be pretty sensitive to stuff down there and so does DH but thankfully we've been okay with it. I hear you on wanting to only change one thing per cycle, tho, but I agree that you'd think preseed would have been pretty innocuous
@Cait32 Welcome! It helps the longer you've been on, you will start to get to know people and what's going on with them, so they become more like your actual friends that you know and are responding too, so that does help. But in the mean time, you can open a notepad or word doc in the side and type your responses there and then just copy/paste! ;) You'll get the hang, but by no means feel like you HAVE TO respond to absolutely everyone every day. Some of us like to do that from time to time, but it is by no means a requirement for membership on the board! Hope your O holds off just long enough!
Welcome @Cait32 and like @BusinessWife said, by no means feel obligated to reply to everyone but I just wanted to give you another option ...I don't use my laptop much so the way I do it is to read the posts on my iPad and reply on my iPhone as I go Hoping O holds off until DH gets home!!
WAYDTGKU: pnv, temping, preseed, opk starting tomorrow, cm, cp
R/R: first full day of vacation today! Charleston is beautiful but it's bloody hot!
CS/Q: nothing today.
GTKY: football season is upon us (American football). What are your favorite sports? Do you have favorite teams? any superstitions you follow when rooting for your favorite team? If not a sports fan, what would be your favorite go-to dish if you were attending a tail-gate party?
@Marley629 Love Yanks / Giants! I swear, I'm back luck for FB players though. I bought a Cruz jersey, repeated injuries. DH bought me a Wilson jersey, he got hurt and retired. At the end of last season, a friend gave me his new OBJ jersey that was too small for him....
It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most...not where you live, or what you drive, or the price tag on your clothes... There's no dollar sign on a piece of mind, this I've come to know! *ZBB*
Re: WTO SUNDAY
CD: 2
WAYDTGKU: Going to try PreSeed this month. @BusinessWife I'm going to look into the Mucinex!
R/R: Nothing today
CS/Q: Nothing today
GTKY: I don't follow any sports. I kinda like watching the olympic gymnastics.
@rainbowturtles So actually it did kind of come true! It was only a tiny little bit but it's there. Things might be moving now.
@Marley629 DH is a big giants fan so football season is tense in our house!
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP #1: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
BFP #2: 10/06/16: 6 - EDD: 06/20/17
DD Born 06/23/17
TFAS: April 2018
BFP #3: 03/21/18 - CP
BFP #4: 04/23/18 - EDD 01/04/19
@mrsdaddario good luck at your RE appointment. I hope they give you good news!
@Marley629 We use Preseed and definitely enjoy it. I have low CM so I've been trying to do everything possible to fix that. I have also been drinking green tea and I cant decide if it has truly helped. Mucinex seems to be working! I would definitely try that! Also, thank you so much for the kind words!
@adirat @GiddyUp82 @BusinessWife @rainbowturtles Thank yall so much for all the support and well wishes! I love having you ladies as a support group.
@AngelaPlus3 Welcome back! I hope taking time off from all the charting has helped you de-stress some. FX this will be your month so you won't have to worry about the TTC insanity anymore!
Married: October 2014
TTC#1:May 2016
BFP: 11/16/16 EDD: 7/30/17
4 fur babies
CD: 1
WAYDTGKU: waiting. For AF to leave
R/R: we got a lot of yard work done this weekend. It's cycle day one... I knew it was coming but it still sucks.
CS/Q: nothing to stalk yet
GTKY: we don't watch a lot of sports. As for game day food, guacamole or queso
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Married: October 2014
TTC#1:May 2016
BFP: 11/16/16 EDD: 7/30/17
4 fur babies
@wabash15 queso and guacamole are sooo good... I kind of forgot about them when I was listing my game day food favorites... but I could easily eat an avocado a day!
@magnolia131I like your style... bumping incognito
@SP128 - I frequently have temps around 96.7 pre-O, so I wouldn't worry about that. As for ED vs EOD, we tend to do EOD. We tried to do ED once we got a positive OPK, until I knew I had O'd, but DH got a little exhausted and it wasn't worth the stress. So I think we'll stick to EOD this cycle. You can find support for both. Do what works for you two.
Dating: 11/14/2010
Married: 10/18/2014
TTC April 2016
BFP: 5/12/2016 ~ MC: 5/25/2016
@chocolatelemons I honestly swear it said something about not leaving it in too long before BDing because I remember stressing about it once a couple months ago but I got rid of the pamphlet. Does anyone still have the preseed info from the box?? On their website it says you can insert up to an hour before "love making" tho lol So I'm sure it's fine, just confused about what my brain is remembering!!!
@BitterBetty12 hooray for dreams come true
@adirat I'll take a closer look at those ingredients on my next cleaning break lol I was expecting to see magnesium in there, because I know it can definitely cause some of the symptoms you described. But so far I would say give the straight Vitex a try; I was just trying to nail down the offensive ingredient for you
DH needs his brother's help to build a fence and said he'd have him come out either next weekend or the long weekend and I immediately said "THE LONG WEEKEND!". This weekend is FW
CD: 16
WAYDTGKU: BBT, CoQ10, B Complex, OPKS, CM/CP
R/R: being super lazy today. & it's cool enough to not need the AC. The windows are open & I'm loving the fresh air.
Maybe TMI warning: globs of EWCM Friday & Saturday. (More than I've ever had, by far.) DH has been in a slow-pitch softball tournament this weekend & drinking, so no BD. CM seems to have switched to watery again today. I pouted most of yesterday morning because I felt like we were missing FW & I was frustrated with DH for not being able to get it up after drinking. Haven't had anything close to a + OPK yet though. Day 14 or 15 would be almost a week early for me to have O'd & temps aren't skyrocketing. Hopefully we can start EOD tomorrow - if I can convince H....
CS/Q: sorry for that dear diary ^. I had it down here but realized I didn't have a question, so I moved it up with R/R.
GTKY: we love football in our house! H loves the Chiefs, I love the Seahawks. We also watch almost every Pirates game. (Go Buccos!) Sad that the Olympics are over, because we watched them every night.
My favorite dish to make for tailgates is buffalo chicken wing dip. Mmmmmmmm.
" Pre- seed Lubricant can be applied prior to starting intercourse. Inserting before allows the moisture to disperse through the V and offers more spontaneity. Many women apply about 15 minutes before intercourse." It also says, "Do not leave it in applicator more than 30 minutes prior to use." It doesn't say anything about the 1 hour rule. I think that came from the website.
"Pre-seed lubricant can be applied prior to starting intercourse. Inserting it before intercourse allows the moisture to disperse throughout the vagina and offers more spontaneity. Many women apply Pre-seed about 15 minutes before intercourse.
" Do not store product in the applicator for more than 30 minutes prior to use......"
- The directions explain how to use the applicator -
"If this application method doesn't provide enough moisture, we suggest you apply product inside the vagina while lying down in bed, IMMEDIATELY before intercourse. You may also want to squeeze a small amount of the product from the tube onto your fingertips and apply directly to external genitalia."
"If this application method provides too much moisture for you, apply the product either earlier before intercourse (e.g., up to an hour), apply fewer grams of the product (1-2 g) or wipe off the vulvar area with a tissues after applying the produce inside the vagina."
Me: 36 DH:35
Married: 7/10/2016
TTC#1 - May 2016
BFP 9/6/2016 - Missed MC 10/20/2016
BFP 5/5/2017 - CP
IVF #1 - June 2017 - Transferred 1 fresh 4 AA embryo. 7/9 Beta #1 - 161
Month/Cycle: 6/7
CD: 18
WAYDTGKU: sex, preseed, temping, checking cm/cp
R/R: Just waiting to confirm O at this point. I think no matter when it happened this week we had decent timing so now it's just the wait. I don't have nearly enough to keep me busy during this upcoming TWW. Even work is getting quiet for a bit. Now might be a good time to deep clean every corner of my house.
CS/Q: nothing today
GTKY: I am totally a social sports fan. I'm loyal to hometown teams by default but if folks are getting together and eating/drinking because of sports, I'm pretty much in there. My favorite thing to bring is bacon wrapped jalapeño poppers.
I broke my own cardinal rule of not starting multiple things at once because I was so sure that preseed couldn't do anything harmful. Sigh.
@adirat, hey fellow Packer fan!!
@BusinessWife, GL on your tests!
Month/Cycle: 2/3
CD: 8
WAYDTGKU: pnv, temping, preseed, opk starting tomorrow, cm, cp
R/R: first full day of vacation today! Charleston is beautiful but it's bloody hot!
CS/Q: nothing today.
GTKY: football season is upon us (American football). What are your favorite sports? Do you have favorite teams? any superstitions you follow when rooting for your favorite team? If not a sports fan, what would be your favorite go-to dish if you were attending a tail-gate party?
Go Pack Go!! Oh, and I also love the WI Badgers!
Dating since: 11/17/2001
Married: 9/26/2009
TTC: June 2016
EDD: 5/14/2018
@shstephensonI hope you heal soon, ouch!
@mrsdaddariogood luck at your RE appointment. Fx they give you good news!
@Marley629thanks that helps a lot!
TTC 9/2016 BFP 12/9/16 EDD 8/21/17 NMC 1/8/16 at 7w6d
TTC 2/2017 BFP 3/6/17 EDD 11/17/17 DS born 11/25/17 via ECS
TTC 12/2018 BFP 6/2/19 EDD 2/12/20 NMC / BO at 7 weeks, low progesterone
TTC 7/2019 BFP 8/21/19 EDD 4/22/20 CP at 5 weeks
TTC 8/19 IUI #1 w/ Clomid + Ovidrel + progesterone BFN, IUI 2 and 3 w/ Letrozole + Ovidrel + progesterone,
IUI 4 Follistim + Ovidrel + progesterone BFP 1/9/20 EDD 9/18/20
AMA, ITP in pregnancy, vWD type II - low Factor VIII, unexplained RPL and secondary infertility