@linzrunz That makes me feel even more confident about CD17 O. Today could be your fallback rise -- I have experienced that with 2dpo being a low temp then shooting back up 3dpo and later. (Last month my 2dpo fallback rise was really low and I had tons of EWCM which was incredibly confusing! Estrogen surge.)
@dilynne Sorry for CD1. Hope you can find something to brighten your day.
P.S. in case anybody does look at my chart- there are a lot of open circles, but its only because I don't adjust the time to when the temperature was taken. It is recorded at variable times. I'm trialing a wearable device soo I don't really know what time the temperature is from, it takes 40-50 observations each night and records the lowest temp each night.
Me (28) & DH (35) Met 4/2010+Married 8/2014 TTC #1 August 2016. BFP 10/2016= DD Born 6.23.17
NTNP April 2018. BFP 5/2018 EDD 1.29.19 *Team Green*
@TravelingCouple Ugh it is
bittersweet to end those nursing sessions! I understand completely.
@shstephenson Such a cute story for
you and DH! Sounds like a romcom!!
@Dilynne All of the hugs for you
today. So sorry, do something nice for yourself today!
Month/Cycle: 4/4
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: It’s go time! Hoping to HIO every day for at least 3 days..high hopes I am sure.
R/R: Woke up this morning and went to grab my thermometer….it was missing….wasn’t
on the floor, nowhere to be had. Turns
out my daughter was playing with it and put it back in the wrong spot….so I
still temped but I had been up for a good 15 minutes.
CS/Q: See R/R above. So do I keep that temp even though I was up
for 15 minutes? It’s the lowest temp since AF was over. Now I am just worried if my temp spikes, FF
might think it’s O but not really be? Maybe I am over-analyzing it?
GTKY:
How did you and your DH/SO meet? We went to the same high school and were
in band together so we knew of each other. Didn’t wind up officially meeting
until I had just graduated HS and he was in college home for homecoming. Our mutual
friends were dating so we all hung out at the Homecoming game and then wound up
going to Halloween Horror Nights together.
WAYDTGKU: just waiting for one of the worst AFs ever to go away
R/R: I'm sorry I didn't post a response yesterday, but I did see and appreciate all the comments about my dog passing away! You are all so supportive and kind, even with non-TTC related subjects!
CS/Q: This is probably a silly and TMI question, but when is my AF considered to be gone? FF taught me a period isn't considered started until a "full red flow" (or something along those lines). I had always counted spotting! So is it ended when the "full red flow" is gone or when all spotting is gone?
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? I was friends with his sister and a couple of other people we both knew, he basically Facebook stalked me and flirted (it's funny to go back and look at the comments back and forth), before we started hanging out as friends. I wasn't into him, so we were good friends for two years before I agreed to date him. He's the most patient guy in the world!
DH: 31, Me: 27 Married May 2014 TTC #1: May 2015 September 2016-December 2016: Met with RE, fertility testing, diagnosis of tubal scarring, and plan of IVF *TW in spoiler boxes*
Surprise! Unexpected BFP 2/22/17 just when we were about to start fertility treatment!
Jeez, you sleep in until 9:30 and don't bump until 10:30 and miss a super busy morning on WTO!! I'll hopefully be back later for responses / answers to questions!
Month/Cycle: (7/5) 2/2 TTCAL
CD: 12
WAYDTGKU: PNV, BBT, Coq10, RRLT. Starting the HIO routine today. Waiting for my body to show me some EWCM before I start OPKs this month.
R/R: Nadda
CS/Q: None
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? In high school! We became friends because we both did model un and model congress together so we went on trips together twice a year. We've known each other for 10 years, but today is actually our official 8 year dating anniversary!
@PolarBear517 Have you ever O'd CD8 (so early) before or are you tracking other signs like CM or o pain? It definitely looks like a temp rise but CD8 is so early.
@Slam1110 Ha, thanks, and true that is a silver lining! I'm still joining all my meetings by phone which is a drag. But honestly, you are right -- and I'll probably be happy at 5:30 when I'm already at home.
WAYDTGKU: waiting for follicles to grow more before IUI
R/R: 2nd follicle scan this morning showed follicle and lining just under the minimum for getting the ok to trigger. Plus have been spotting a couple days and I can't figure out why.
CS/Q: none
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
he worked for my dad and dated my next door neighbor while I was college (they eventually broke up). Then we ran into each other at a Florida - Auburn game through a random mutual friend and the rest is history. He lived a few hours away (in my parents hometown) at the time and I would visit without letting my parents know. 6 months later he moved to where I was.
@adirat I have never tracked O before and this is my first month off HBC so I don't really know what to expect! I remember my cycles being longer than 28 days as a teenager only because (*embarrassing admission*) I used to think 28 days was standard and always tested when I was "late" on off-BC cycles but ended up getting my period a few days later anyway. So I'm thinking I was just around a 30-32 day cycle at that time. Who knows what 7+ years of HBC would do to that pattern. My OB said it can be normal to experience either delayed or early ovulation the first month off of birth control (but it seems like the delayed response is much more common, per anecdotal data from this board?). I have not turned any OPKs although they were darker around CD 8 than they are now... I was only testing once a day though, thinking O would be much later.
Me (28) & DH (35) Met 4/2010+Married 8/2014 TTC #1 August 2016. BFP 10/2016= DD Born 6.23.17
NTNP April 2018. BFP 5/2018 EDD 1.29.19 *Team Green*
You know when you're a crazy Bumper when: you want to sleep in but you check WTO and it's already super active so you figure you better get caught up first haha!
@hezzer78 I can't believe school starts so early! GL! @leekat14 I really hope the endo isn't getting worse did you do/take anything else differently (ie Maca, RRLT) that could affect it...like, could it be light in a *good* way instead of bad? Excuse my ignorance if that sounds ridiculous @adirat how lomg have you been on the Vitex supplement and have you noticed anything? As for OPKs I'm a noob to them, too... @marybpoppins glad the dogs let you sleep! We crate them when DH is here but one has taken to whining in the mornings because she wants on the bed I can usually get her to stop but it's irritating lol Also +1 for POF! @BusinessWife awesome tip on OPK, will try that this cycle now that I have more. Also, I got cranky at one of my dogs the other night and told her to go to bed and she actually did and didn't come back til morning! I was impressed! We tried not locking the crate with my pug before but he wanders lol @bornmommy oooo I'm liking that pro tip about wondfos because I struggle like crazy to hold my pee! @luckywife10 see my CS/Q about green tea below @tripledaggerWed95976 sorry everyone around you is KU @shstephenson I really shouldn't but I'm kind of waiting on a FF sale to get the VIP because obvs I need to obsess more @linzrunz a more accurate/bbt thermometer made ALL the difference for me! I had one good cycle with the old one and then two wonky so got a bbt and things are much clearer! @Dilynne NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! With everything you've been going through I was REALLY hoping for that BFP for you!!!! I'm more sad to see you here than me Please do something nice for yourself and all the internet hugs for you @kyersten I don't know if it matters as much when it's gone but if you're not filling a pad/tampon then it's considered spotting. So, say if you had to tell your doc how long your period is you could say "blank days" plus "blank days of spotting", kwim? @AliciaGoose I feel ya...I'm west coast and woke up around 7am and already 39 posts lol
I feel like I should maybe separate my responses from my post because otherwise it will get quite long. If I should keep it all as one post in the future, please just let me know thx!!!
@PolarBear517 That's tough. If you are in cycle 1 off birth control you may also be seeing random fluctuations in estrogen and progesterone without ovulation. Without another fertility sign (CM, OPK, o pain) it's harder to tell. My first cycle off birth control was bizarre and had a lot of temp fluctuations.
WAYDTGKU: most of the things . . . mainly BD and temp, OPK
R/R: Learning new things at work (im a web developer) and trying to keep my mind off of everything, except for when Im bumping.
CS/Q: Trying to figure out my cycle after a loss. I seem to have a bunch of good CM, but no temp spikes, and it seems early for that, but I dont know if the loss, even though it all happened naturally, is still messing with me.
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
My mom was on a pastoral search committee, and she basically found his mom and brought the family to our church. I was 14. We started dating a year and a half after they moved there, and have been together ever sense. He was 14 and I was 16, we got married 8 years later, and have now been together for 12.5 years!
**TW Loss/pregnancy mentioned** Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 5/30/16 and MC on 7/6/16 BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17 BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19 BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19 BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2 Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage IVF started Feb 2020 retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal. Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
Mommy to a super cute havanesse puppy and baby boy!
Running late this morning, I'll post and come back to comment later!
Month/Cycle: 1/1
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: HIO, CM, green tea
R/R: Watched the Great Sperm Race and now I'm very impressed by sperm. I'm wishing I would've bought a thermometer earlier (mine hasn't been delivered yet) because I have no idea if yesterday was O day or not. I had lots of EWCM and felt some ovulation cramps, today my CM is turning watery again. If only I knew it was O day yesterday, I could relax on the whole HIO thing
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We lived in the same dorm freshman year of college. He was the cool kid from the city and I was from the podunks. One night we passed each other on the lawn (I was going to my car and he was coming back from his) and we talked so long that we ended up sitting down on the grass and talked for about 2 hours. We were friends for awhile and then began dating.
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, CoQ10, Aspirin, Exercise, and HIO starting tomorrow
R/R: Rant...*TW* Friend visiting from out of town came to see the new house and tell us he got his GF of 8 months knocked-up. Luckily my best friend was there and we were going shoe shopping after. Once we left the house she said "Well thats gotta be annoying to you!" ummm yup! At least I wasn't the only one thinking that! (So for anyone keeping count thats 2 preggo announcements this month!) *End TW and rant*
CS/Q: My temps dropped even more to 96.26 (from 96.58) so messaging my PCP after this for a thyroid level check.
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met through mutual friends while I was a dating someone else. We chatted online because we both worked overnights and did that to help stay awake. Once I broke up with the guy I was dated, he asked me out within the week. We started with breakfast dates, and this morning we had a "breakfast date" while I waited for my car to get serviced. It was a nice little throw-back
Me: 28 DH:33 Dating: Sept 2009 Married: April 2014 NTNP/TTC Since Dec 2015
@rainbowturtles I started vitex on day 6 of the current cycle. I take the FertilityBlend brand which has vitex, green tea, and some other stuff. *possible TMI but relevant if you are considering it* The first couple days I took it, I had loose stools, and it gives me a stomach ache if I take it on an empty stomach. The loose stools mostly went away and if I take it with a meal, I don't get a stomach ache.
I specifically started it because of my short luteal phases (see this study about its effect on luteal phase progesterone: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17211965). I asked my doctor before I started it and she said it's safe to try if you are tracking your cycles because you'll notice if you have side effects. I haven't gotten to my luteal phase yet so I don't know if it's helping. My acupuncturist said you may have to wait 3-4 cycles to see impacts from vitex.
@antoto Yes! Hope we don't see you again in WTO! ;-)
Thank you so much for the CS and the insight @adirat !!
also, @rainbowturtles I plan on buying a better thermometer if this cycle doesn't work out. Didn't think it'd make much of a difference but I'm totally regretting not getting one earlier.
Married 07.21.07 DS#1 01.23.09 DS#2 08.01.11 TTC#3 08.31.15 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17 Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19 Left tube removed dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis BC: February-October 2019 TTA: November-December 2019 NTNP: January 2020!
Hi guys! I feel like I am imposing. I just started to get in to the swing of things and then we went on vacation and have been MIA for a bit.
Totally unrelated to TTGP items, but does anyone have any tips and tricks for responding or commenting. I feel like there has to be an easier way to address everyone's comments and I am jealous of those that can respond to everyone in one post. I feel like I get jumbled and lost and can't keep track of it to respond. Hints at being a good board member would be appreciated!
Month/Cycle: 2/2
CD: 9
WAYDTGKU: Temping, PNV and HIO hopefully next week
R/R: I preface this with .. I suffer from OCD. Like clinical OCD and have anxiety issues and can fixate on random facts and numbers and it drives me insane. DH and I are TFAS and all I can think about with charting is if we are lucky enough to get pregnant this month, the baby's due date will be right around my DD birthday. We charted and I know that the cycle we got pregnant with her I O'd on 8/29. Presuming the cycle throws no curve balls, I should O next Friday the 26. All I keep thinking about is what happens if their birthdays are that close, is the fair to them, joint birthdays forever, or what happens. Can someone please talk me down or tell me to just go with the flow and if it happens it happens. Seriously, my brain can be such a PITA
CS/Q: None. Just waiting... waiting...
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? I met my DH at a pool hall. He was in a league with my ex. I had just come from the gym and was extremely rude. (my ex turned out not to be a good person, and I had already started my downward spiral of that relationship that I assumed all his new friends were the same) Boy I was wrong! DH and the ex became extremely close and DH was part of our everyday routine. I left to study abroad in Paris one summer and upon my return the relationship with the ex just imploded. When asked by my bestie what I would miss most about my long term relationship with the ex, I just responded spending time with DH. The rest is history. She was a college friend of DH, leaked my secret (which was apparently his secret too) and played a little match making.
CD: 2 (started midday yesterday so I'd already posted in TWW)
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, RRLT, green tea, Maca, DHA, will check CM/CP when AF is gone, might actually try inserting preseed this cycle, OPKs, praying to the fertility gods that DH will be in town during FW
R/R: booo to AF, but Rave: I did an excellent job of treating myself this cycle because I had a little extra $. I got bras and undies, which I desperately needed but also got some lingerie, which I was very torn on since DH is wonderful in so many ways but not really romance lol Plus, I think women tend to put way more effort into seduction and sex than men do and it irritates me a bit because it seems backwards at times lol BUT I'm super proud of myself for trying on lingerie with period bloat haha! I also am hoping I reverse jinxed myself by buying skinny jeans lmao Like maybe that will undo the jinxing of buying a onesie last cycle
CS/Q: I HAVE QUESTIONS!!! -last month was my 1st time trying green tea and also first month I had zero EWCM wtf. Should I be having two cups regularly? I only had one usually because I was worried about caffeine. -I've read conflicting stuff on saliva. The one major study was from 1982 and in a Petri dish. DH likes to give oral to warm me up but if it's true I'd rather not risk it if it's true so I'm trying to figure out THAT conversation without making it weird and also inserting preseed maybe? -has anyone found Vitex to increase CM and/or increase post O temps? Mine were above coverline but I'm worried about low progesterone. I hear it takes 3 months to work, tho... -lastly, what about mucinex OR should I just be a little more patient since it's only our 3rd cycle I just want to do all the right things and TTCAL brain is tough Sorry for the novel and all the questions, I hope I don't seem like a needy bitch, it's mostly just a long question about CM....
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met on Plenty of Fish and I wasn't sure but there were some things I really liked in his profile. We met on Remembrance Day because he had the day off which was funny because we were both former military lol (well I was in 6yrs, he was in 1 haha). I found out a few dates later that he'd lied about being a non-smoker and I was pretty ticked but he'd hooked me by then and he's right that I wouldn't have met him if he'd said he was a smoker lol so I gueeeesssss I'm glad he fibbed haha He also said he had been wanting to message me for about a year but waited til he moved closer and cut down on the smoking quite a bit lol We're so good together and I love him so much! Now if he could just quit smoking altogether.... lol
@adirat thanks for the info! For my luteal phase is fine, I'm more concerned with lack of CM and possibly low progesterone. But I do have chronic constipation so BRING ON THE LOOSE STOOLS!!! Haha so THAT won't bother me if I do end up trying it
@CallMeMrsChaos I read the posts on my iPad and reply on my iPhone I know some people open two browsers when bumping on computer!
@CallMeMrsChaos I learned the commenting trick from some of the ladies here. I open a word document as I am reading through on the computer, and respond on there, then copy and paste!
@slam1110 definitely just keep the temp, note the time, and even make a special note about what happened so you remember. It will probably be fine, but down the line *IF* FF has trouble giving you CH, you can decide if it makes sense to scrap it. ;)
@Dilynne. Ughh, I am so sorry about CD1. That sounds like abreally crushing cycle.... (((hugs))))
They are trying to schedule my HSG for this cycle!!! FX they can squeeze me in guys!!!
R/R: not ttc related but TB keeps giving me an error message when I try to change my avatar. It's annoying me more than it should be.
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
He came to visit all his friends that went to my college and one happened to be my roommate. He was dating someone at the time but he dumped her when he transferred up to my school. We started hanging out and the rest is history.
@CallMeMrsChaos - I have the same issue! Thanks for asking. I figured I was just a newbie and slow. haha
@slam1110@rainbowturtles - Those are great ideas! I was thinking of using scrap paper to keep track, but duh! Why didn't I think of a word document!? (I am usually bumping on the laptop, iPhone is too hard for big responses)
@Adirat - My PCP is the bomb.com! She already messaged me back saying yes, I should get my thyroid checked ASAP and to do a hormone check CD3 next cycle! (Of course I just missed it this cycle...)
Me: 28 DH:33 Dating: Sept 2009 Married: April 2014 NTNP/TTC Since Dec 2015
@callmemrschaos DH and his sister are two years and three days apart in age. Other than his mom needing to organize annual birthday parties on two consecutive weekends (because she wanted them each to have their own when they were little instead of sharing) it didn't bother them at all. I think his mom would only have relatives over once to celebrate them both, but for their friends she had separate events. DD was born 3 days (and a lot of years) after my birthday and I'm pretty happy that it's making people forget that my birthday exists. I could stand to not age anymore hahahaha. But if I conceive next cycle (and my dates remain as they normally do) #2 would have a birthday very close to mine and to DD's, and it doesn't bother me much. Actually there is a 6 week time period right now where we have: mother's day, DH's birthday, our wedding anniversary, father's day, my birthday, and DD's birthday. So I actually think #2 would feel lift out of his/her birthday was outside of that time frame!
@mamashan12 Ooh, that's infuriating. Don't touch my stuff!
@luckywife10 I've just started drinking a daily green tea, but it's more to keep my caffeine levels down (instead of having a massive black coffee) and my hydration up!
@CallMeMrsChaos There's lots of good tips if you want to respond to a lot of people but I also want to share that you don't have to feel pressure to respond to a lot of people. I tend to just respond to the 1-2 people I feel I can really help, especially since I often log on later and most people have already been helped. As far as the birthdays being close, I don't really think it's a huge deal. I have a pair of younger cousins born 4 days apart, 1 year apart and they don't seem to be bothered. They had way more joint birthdays as kids and as they've gotten older, they just do their own thing with their friends.
Month/Cycle: 6/7
CD: 15
WAYDTGKU: temping, preseed, robitussin, checking cm/cp, aiming for sex ED in FW
R/R: I'm so ready for the weekend. I'm working on a project I don't like very much at work and I just need a break from it.
CS/Q: When your CM is no longer fertile is it a stark contrast from the day before or a slow transition?
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met at a poetry open mic in college.
@shstephenson They have VIP specials all the time J Just wait for a sale -
that’s what I did.
@swimsister Margaritas are my go-to-problem solver as well.
They work wonders.
Also, the samething
happens to me and my OPKs – they get darker – never dark as the control line –
then fade again. I chalk it up to a short surge that I just missed.
@dilynne Sorry to hear you’re having a rough day. Big hugs
girl.
@mrsdee15 That’s great news! FX you get a positive OPK soon.
@slam1110 I would still keep it. The same thing happened to
me the other day (couldn’t find my thermometer) and I ended up testing a good
30 mins later. FF needs 3 days of
consistently higher temps to confirm O – just one isn’t gonna do it.
@callmemrschaos I
open a word document and split my screen so TB is on one side and word is on
the other. I scroll through the responses and type my comments in the word
document, then copy paste and add gifs as appropriate.
This is what I get for signing on late. So many posts, I've gone cross-eyed! One small note: CD1 is the worst for the obvious reason, but on top of that you have your damn period and I, for one, get irrationally upset at even the tiniest things on period day 1 so it's just a terrible combo.
Month/Cycle: 2/2 post-myomectomy
CD: 15
WAYDTGKU: CBAD OPK, BBT, CM checking, CoQ10, green tea (day 1)
R/R: Yesterday I thought my CM was tending toward egg white (better than dry, anyway) but this morning got a low result on the CBAD, almost non-existent line on the Wondfo, so I guess not. Day 15 is a bit early for that, but I have been known to O on CD17 so I'm not entirely nuts. And last night at dinner with my girlfriends, one friend immediately says "So how are things going?" (they know my issues) and I said "oh it's fine, just waiting to ovulate..." and my other friend goes "Do you not want to talk about it?" and I said "No, I'd love to talk about it, the question is, do you really want to hear about it?" and they said yes so OMG I unloaded every detail but stopped short of mucus. No one needs to hear about my mucus. Then I was all "Are you sorry you said it was OK?"
CS/Q: Naw.
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? Online. He got drunk one night after being dumped and winged his credit card at a friend who recommended online dating and said "Sign me up." Then he drunkenly messaged a bunch of women, one of them was me, then a month or two later when there was a free communication weekend I messaged back It's a good thing all those other dates he went on didn't work out or else I'd be SOL! Online dating gets a bad rap but I look at the internet as the friend who sets you up with their single, super cute, fun friend it knows you'd totally get along with. Easier than navigating the wedding rings and boyfriends at the bar.
Me: late 30s | H: early 30s TTC #1 since April 2015 RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016 IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal Polyp removed May 2017 FET May 2017 - BFP! Baby boy born 2/2/18
WAYDTGKU: CM/CP/temping, diet/exercise/all of the vitamins, OPKs starting maybe tomorrow
R/R: The board is active today! All of the more reason to get my act together before work. Not much to say today. Soaking up the last days of summer/teacher planning. I have an extra busy weekend coming up and will be team no sleep starting very, very soon.
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met on my first day of high school. We remained friends through college and don't tell everyone this, but we were actually long distance friends with benefits in our first two years of college (he played rugby and was always at my school for away games). It wasn't until I was home one summer that he asked to take me out on a date. I was very emotionally guarded and wanted to say no, but needless to say I'm glad I took the chance.
@luckywife10 Sorry about CD 1. I definitely agree that there's a learning curve to overcome in the first couple of cycles. It's good that you and your DH are communicating about the BD'ing now, so that it does not become a stressful topic for you both in the future.
@Dilynne Sending hugs your way. This sounds like me last cycle. It's so much harder when you have that feeling like it might really be your time...and then it's not. I hope you do take time out for your mental health today, even if it's only outside of work hours. Usually it helps me to look towards the next cycle, but sometimes you just need to get away from it all before you can get to that point.
@slam1110 I don't discard temps but in your case, I would add a note if possible and also note the time difference. I'd rather have a slightly elevated temp there for reference than not there at all, but it's just a personal preference of mine. Because you could be close to O, I would keep it and override FF's estimated O date if needed.
@CallMeMrsChaos No advice for mobile bumping, but when I'm on a desktop I will open the WTO/TWW post in multiple tabs...one so that I can browse, and one so that I can reply. I'm sorry to hear that you struggle with OCD. I have clinical anxiety & depression and going off meds to TTC has been a whirlwind. I've said it before on here but I really am a master at worrying about things that have not even happened yet. My brain is always ten steps ahead. I'm not a therapist so I can only talk you down so much, but just try to keep in mind that in the big picture this is a small detail, one that you don't even know will be an issue. If you are fortunate enough to get your BFP this cycle, then you will have plenty of time to figure out things like birthdays logistically. There are so many things in life that cannot be solved/worked around, but this is not one of them. You'll make it work!
@BusinessWife FX for your HSG this cycle. Your fur babies are precious! I cannot wait for DH and I to move so that we can finally settle down somewhere and get some of our own.
@deadasthatsquirrel I still tell him that (jokingly of course haha)! Actually 'like' to us means more than 'love'. We promised to always love each other, but that doesn't mean we have to always like each other. So when we feel especially mushy and loving, we will say 'I like you' and it means so much more to hear that.
Also, I'm wondering if there's a story being your name. I giggled a little when I was typing it. (and now I'm hoping that there's no sad story behind it....)
Married 07.21.07 DS#1 01.23.09 DS#2 08.01.11 TTC#3 08.31.15 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17 Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17 Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19 Left tube removed dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis BC: February-October 2019 TTA: November-December 2019 NTNP: January 2020!
@meilay. Generally, you're going to see a pretty sudden change from fertile/"peak-type" to not so fertile-type after O, but you still want to consider yourself technically fertile a day or two after O. So even if you dry up, or it goes from clear, stretchy, and/or lubricative, to pasty/creamy/sticky, that last day of Peak-type is a good sign of O. My Creighton teacher has me asking the "essential sameness" question. Like if there is some degree of stretch and it's clear, is this essentially the same as the previous day? Or if it's stretchy and lubricative still, but cloudy in colour, do you feel its "essentially similar" to that previous day, or "essentially different"? Dunno if that helps...
@deadasthatsquirrel. Omg! That was my last guy! They told me he was a Pyr as a puppy, but then he was mostly 76-80 lbs only, (he also had mega-esophagus tjo). So one day someone saw him in the yard and asked if he was a kuvacz and I was like, hm! I wonder! Great dogs though. Here DH thought we'd be compromising with a smaller dog in the GSD (rather than full 150lb pyr) and here we are at almost 100 lbs and not even a year yet! Lol joke's on him ;)
@linzrunz Ha! No, not a sad story. It's from a TV show called Blackadder:
Blackadder: Does your father know you’re out? Amy: He had to go. B: You mean he’s dead? A: Yes, dead as that squirrel! B: Which squirrel? *Amy shoots into the air, there's a squeak and a thud* Oh, that squirrel.
When I was a kid, it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Who am I kidding? It's still the funniest thing!
@BusinessWife Big dogs are the best dogs! Her favourite thing is to lean up against you and get a good scratch. We don't need to bend down to reach her any more and you end up pinned against the nearest wall!
@rainbowturtles nothing different but I have been stressed so I think it's just related to that.
@Dilynne I'm sorry, I was only a couple days "late" this month but seriously got invested in the idea that we "did it". Then hello AF. Have a drink and doing something for you.
Re: WTO Thursday
@dilynne Sorry for CD1. Hope you can find something to brighten your day.
Met 4/2010+Married 8/2014
TTC #1 August 2016. BFP 10/2016= DD Born 6.23.17
Met 4/2010+Married 8/2014
TTC #1 August 2016. BFP 10/2016= DD Born 6.23.17
Happy Friday Eve Ladies!!!
@adirat Sorry about missing work (but maybe that’s ok?) At least you found out before you left your house!
@mamashan12 So not cool about your desk situation!
@delujm0 FX O holds out for you!
@tripledaggerWed95976 Sorry you are still in a rut, Hugs to you!!
@TravelingCouple Ugh it is bittersweet to end those nursing sessions!
I understand completely.
@shstephenson Such a cute story for you and DH! Sounds like a romcom!!
@Dilynne All of the hugs for you today. So sorry, do something nice for yourself today!
Month/Cycle: 4/4CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: It’s go time! Hoping to HIO every day for at least 3 days..high hopes I am sure.
R/R: Woke up this morning and went to grab my thermometer….it was missing….wasn’t on the floor, nowhere to be had. Turns out my daughter was playing with it and put it back in the wrong spot….so I still temped but I had been up for a good 15 minutes.
CS/Q: See R/R above. So do I keep that temp even though I was up for 15 minutes? It’s the lowest temp since AF was over. Now I am just worried if my temp spikes, FF might think it’s O but not really be? Maybe I am over-analyzing it?
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We went to the same high school and were in band together so we knew of each other. Didn’t wind up officially meeting until I had just graduated HS and he was in college home for homecoming. Our mutual friends were dating so we all hung out at the Homecoming game and then wound up going to Halloween Horror Nights together.
CD: 3
WAYDTGKU: just waiting for one of the worst AFs ever to go away
R/R: I'm sorry I didn't post a response yesterday, but I did see and appreciate all the comments about my dog passing away! You are all so supportive and kind, even with non-TTC related subjects!
CS/Q: This is probably a silly and TMI question, but when is my AF considered to be gone? FF taught me a period isn't considered started until a "full red flow" (or something along those lines). I had always counted spotting! So is it ended when the "full red flow" is gone or when all spotting is gone?
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? I was friends with his sister and a couple of other people we both knew, he basically Facebook stalked me and flirted (it's funny to go back and look at the comments back and forth), before we started hanging out as friends. I wasn't into him, so we were good friends for two years before I agreed to date him. He's the most patient guy in the world!
Married May 2014
TTC #1: May 2015
September 2016-December 2016: Met with RE, fertility testing, diagnosis of tubal scarring, and plan of IVF
*TW in spoiler boxes*
Month/Cycle: (7/5) 2/2 TTCAL
CD: 12
WAYDTGKU: PNV, BBT, Coq10, RRLT. Starting the HIO routine today. Waiting for my body to show me some EWCM before I start OPKs this month.
R/R: Nadda
CS/Q: None
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
In high school! We became friends because we both did model un and model congress together so we went on trips together twice a year. We've known each other for 10 years, but today is actually our official 8 year dating anniversary!
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
@PolarBear517 Have you ever O'd CD8 (so early) before or are you tracking other signs like CM or o pain? It definitely looks like a temp rise but CD8 is so early.
@Slam1110 Ha, thanks, and true that is a silver lining! I'm still joining all my meetings by phone which is a drag. But honestly, you are right -- and I'll probably be happy at 5:30 when I'm already at home.
CD: 14
WAYDTGKU: waiting for follicles to grow more before IUI
R/R: 2nd follicle scan this morning showed follicle and lining just under the minimum for getting the ok to trigger. Plus have been spotting a couple days and I can't figure out why.
CS/Q: none
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
he worked for my dad and dated my next door neighbor while I was college (they eventually broke up). Then we ran into each other at a Florida - Auburn game through a random mutual friend and the rest is history. He lived a few hours away (in my parents hometown) at the time and I would visit without letting my parents know. 6 months later he moved to where I was.
Met 4/2010+Married 8/2014
TTC #1 August 2016. BFP 10/2016= DD Born 6.23.17
@hezzer78 I can't believe school starts so early! GL!
@leekat14 I really hope the endo isn't getting worse
@adirat how lomg have you been on the Vitex supplement and have you noticed anything? As for OPKs I'm a noob to them, too...
@marybpoppins glad the dogs let you sleep! We crate them when DH is here but one has taken to whining in the mornings because she wants on the bed
@BusinessWife awesome tip on OPK, will try that this cycle now that I have more. Also, I got cranky at one of my dogs the other night and told her to go to bed and she actually did and didn't come back til morning! I was impressed! We tried not locking the crate with my pug before but he wanders lol
@bornmommy oooo I'm liking that pro tip about wondfos because I struggle like crazy to hold my pee!
@luckywife10 see my CS/Q about green tea below
@tripledaggerWed95976 sorry everyone around you is KU
@shstephenson I really shouldn't but I'm kind of waiting on a FF sale to get the VIP because obvs I need to obsess more
@linzrunz a more accurate/bbt thermometer made ALL the difference for me! I had one good cycle with the old one and then two wonky so got a bbt and things are much clearer!
@Dilynne NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! With everything you've been going through I was REALLY hoping for that BFP for you!!!! I'm more sad to see you here than me
@kyersten I don't know if it matters as much when it's gone but if you're not filling a pad/tampon then it's considered spotting. So, say if you had to tell your doc how long your period is you could say "blank days" plus "blank days of spotting", kwim?
@AliciaGoose I feel ya...I'm west coast and woke up around 7am and already 39 posts lol
I feel like I should maybe separate my responses from my post because otherwise it will get quite long. If I should keep it all as one post in the future, please just let me know thx!!!
CD: Clueless
WAYDTGKU: Waiting for AF after IUD still... THEN waiting to O... guess its going to be a while!
R/R: Reminding myself that "patience is a virtue"
CS/Q: --
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
At a networking event sponsored by my company - I was at the front door handing out name tags.
Me: 29 DH: 35
Married: 9/29/12
DS #1: 3/8/15Married: 7/21/12
BFP: 12/4/16 Due 8/8/17 -- Its a boy! Born 8/14/17
BFP: 5/19/19 and MC on 5/27/19
BFP: 6/24/19, MC on 7/24/19
BFP: 10/24, no heartbeat on 11/27, D&C 12/2
Officially diagnosed with Secondary infertility and recurrent miscarriage
IVF started Feb 2020
retrieval and PGT testing: 18 retrieved, 17 mature, 16 fertilized, 9 to blast, 8 PGT normal.
Transfer #1: June 14, 2020
Month/Cycle: 1/1
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: HIO, CM, green tea
R/R: Watched the Great Sperm Race and now I'm very impressed by sperm. I'm wishing I would've bought a thermometer earlier (mine hasn't been delivered yet) because I have no idea if yesterday was O day or not. I had lots of EWCM and felt some ovulation cramps, today my CM is turning watery again. If only I knew it was O day yesterday, I could relax on the whole HIO thing
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
We lived in the same dorm freshman year of college. He was the cool kid from the city and I was from the podunks. One night we passed each other on the lawn (I was going to my car and he was coming back from his) and we talked so long that we ended up sitting down on the grass and talked for about 2 hours. We were friends for awhile and then began dating.
CD: 5
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, CoQ10, Aspirin, Exercise, and HIO starting tomorrow
R/R: Rant...*TW* Friend visiting from out of town came to see the new house and tell us he got his GF of 8 months knocked-up. Luckily my best friend was there and we were going shoe shopping after. Once we left the house she said "Well thats gotta be annoying to you!" ummm yup! At least I wasn't the only one thinking that! (So for anyone keeping count thats 2 preggo announcements this month!) *End TW and rant*
CS/Q: My temps dropped even more to 96.26 (from 96.58) so messaging my PCP after this for a thyroid level check.
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met through mutual friends while I was a dating someone else. We chatted online because we both worked overnights and did that to help stay awake. Once I broke up with the guy I was dated, he asked me out within the week. We started with breakfast dates, and this morning we had a "breakfast date" while I waited for my car to get serviced. It was a nice little throw-back
Dating: Sept 2009
Married: April 2014
NTNP/TTC Since Dec 2015
Living on a little farm!
Dating: Sept 2009
Married: April 2014
NTNP/TTC Since Dec 2015
Living on a little farm!
I specifically started it because of my short luteal phases (see this study about its effect on luteal phase progesterone: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17211965). I asked my doctor before I started it and she said it's safe to try if you are tracking your cycles because you'll notice if you have side effects. I haven't gotten to my luteal phase yet so I don't know if it's helping. My acupuncturist said you may have to wait 3-4 cycles to see impacts from vitex.
@antoto Yes! Hope we don't see you again in WTO! ;-)
also, @rainbowturtles I plan on buying a better thermometer if this cycle doesn't work out. Didn't think it'd make much of a difference but I'm totally regretting not getting one earlier.
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
Totally unrelated to TTGP items, but does anyone have any tips and tricks for responding or commenting. I feel like there has to be an easier way to address everyone's comments and I am jealous of those that can respond to everyone in one post. I feel like I get jumbled and lost and can't keep track of it to respond. Hints at being a good board member would be appreciated!
Month/Cycle: 2/2
CD: 9
WAYDTGKU: Temping, PNV and HIO hopefully next week
R/R: I preface this with .. I suffer from OCD. Like clinical OCD and have anxiety issues and can fixate on random facts and numbers and it drives me insane. DH and I are TFAS and all I can think about with charting is if we are lucky enough to get pregnant this month, the baby's due date will be right around my DD birthday. We charted and I know that the cycle we got pregnant with her I O'd on 8/29. Presuming the cycle throws no curve balls, I should O next Friday the 26. All I keep thinking about is what happens if their birthdays are that close, is the fair to them, joint birthdays forever, or what happens. Can someone please talk me down or tell me to just go with the flow and if it happens it happens. Seriously, my brain can be such a PITA
CS/Q: None. Just waiting... waiting...
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? I met my DH at a pool hall. He was in a league with my ex. I had just come from the gym and was extremely rude. (my ex turned out not to be a good person, and I had already started my downward spiral of that relationship that I assumed all his new friends were the same) Boy I was wrong! DH and the ex became extremely close and DH was part of our everyday routine. I left to study abroad in Paris one summer and upon my return the relationship with the ex just imploded. When asked by my bestie what I would miss most about my long term relationship with the ex, I just responded spending time with DH. The rest is history. She was a college friend of DH, leaked my secret (which was apparently his secret too) and played a little match making.
My Ovulation Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/CallMeMrsChaos/
CD: 2 (started midday yesterday so I'd already posted in TWW)
WAYDTGKU: BBT, PNV, RRLT, green tea, Maca, DHA, will check CM/CP when AF is gone, might actually try inserting preseed this cycle, OPKs, praying to the fertility gods that DH will be in town during FW
R/R: booo to AF, but Rave: I did an excellent job of treating myself this cycle because I had a little extra $. I got bras and undies, which I desperately needed but also got some lingerie, which I was very torn on since DH is wonderful in so many ways but not really romance lol Plus, I think women tend to put way more effort into seduction and sex than men do and it irritates me a bit because it seems backwards at times lol BUT I'm super proud of myself for trying on lingerie with period bloat haha! I also am hoping I reverse jinxed myself by buying skinny jeans lmao Like maybe that will undo the jinxing of buying a onesie last cycle
CS/Q: I HAVE QUESTIONS!!!
-last month was my 1st time trying green tea and also first month I had zero EWCM
-I've read conflicting stuff on saliva. The one major study was from 1982 and in a Petri dish. DH likes to give oral to warm me up but if it's true I'd rather not risk it if it's true so I'm trying to figure out THAT conversation without making it weird and also inserting preseed maybe?
-has anyone found Vitex to increase CM and/or increase post O temps? Mine were above coverline but I'm worried about low progesterone. I hear it takes 3 months to work, tho...
-lastly, what about mucinex OR should I just be a little more patient since it's only our 3rd cycle
Sorry for the novel and all the questions, I hope I don't seem like a needy bitch, it's mostly just a long question about CM....
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
We met on Plenty of Fish and I wasn't sure but there were some things I really liked in his profile. We met on Remembrance Day because he had the day off which was funny because we were both former military lol (well I was in 6yrs, he was in 1 haha). I found out a few dates later that he'd lied about being a non-smoker and I was pretty ticked but he'd hooked me by then and he's right that I wouldn't have met him if he'd said he was a smoker lol so I gueeeesssss I'm glad he fibbed haha He also said he had been wanting to message me for about a year but waited til he moved closer and cut down on the smoking quite a bit lol We're so good together and I love him so much! Now if he could just quit smoking altogether.... lol
@CallMeMrsChaos I read the posts on my iPad and reply on my iPhone
@Dilynne. Ughh, I am so sorry about CD1. That sounds like abreally crushing cycle.... (((hugs))))
They are trying to schedule my HSG for this cycle!!! FX they can squeeze me in guys!!!
Edited bc typos
My Ovulation Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/CallMeMrsChaos/
CD: 761
WAYDTGKU: HIO, RRL, BBT, CM, PNV
R/R: not ttc related but TB keeps giving me an error message when I try to change my avatar. It's annoying me more than it should be.
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
He came to visit all his friends that went to my college and one happened to be my roommate. He was dating someone at the time but he dumped her when he transferred up to my school. We started hanging out and the rest is history.
@slam1110 @rainbowturtles - Those are great ideas! I was thinking of using scrap paper to keep track, but duh! Why didn't I think of a word document!? (I am usually bumping on the laptop, iPhone is too hard for big responses)
@Adirat - My PCP is the bomb.com! She already messaged me back saying yes, I should get my thyroid checked ASAP and to do a hormone check CD3 next cycle! (Of course I just missed it this cycle...)
Dating: Sept 2009
Married: April 2014
NTNP/TTC Since Dec 2015
Living on a little farm!
Month/Cycle: 6/7
CD: 15
WAYDTGKU: temping, preseed, robitussin, checking cm/cp, aiming for sex ED in FW
R/R: I'm so ready for the weekend. I'm working on a project I don't like very much at work and I just need a break from it.
CS/Q: When your CM is no longer fertile is it a stark contrast from the day before or a slow transition?
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
We met at a poetry open mic in college.
@shstephenson They have VIP specials all the time J Just wait for a sale - that’s what I did.
@swimsister Margaritas are my go-to-problem solver as well. They work wonders.
Also, the samething happens to me and my OPKs – they get darker – never dark as the control line – then fade again. I chalk it up to a short surge that I just missed.
@dilynne Sorry to hear you’re having a rough day. Big hugs girl.
@mrsdee15 That’s great news! FX you get a positive OPK soon.
@slam1110 I would still keep it. The same thing happened to me the other day (couldn’t find my thermometer) and I ended up testing a good 30 mins later. FF needs 3 days of consistently higher temps to confirm O – just one isn’t gonna do it.
@callmemrschaos I open a word document and split my screen so TB is on one side and word is on the other. I scroll through the responses and type my comments in the word document, then copy paste and add gifs as appropriate.
Month/Cycle: 2/2 post-myomectomy
CD: 15
WAYDTGKU: CBAD OPK, BBT, CM checking, CoQ10, green tea (day 1)
R/R: Yesterday I thought my CM was tending toward egg white (better than dry, anyway) but this morning got a low result on the CBAD, almost non-existent line on the Wondfo, so I guess not. Day 15 is a bit early for that, but I have been known to O on CD17 so I'm not entirely nuts. And last night at dinner with my girlfriends, one friend immediately says "So how are things going?" (they know my issues) and I said "oh it's fine, just waiting to ovulate..." and my other friend goes "Do you not want to talk about it?" and I said "No, I'd love to talk about it, the question is, do you really want to hear about it?" and they said yes so OMG I unloaded every detail but stopped short of mucus. No one needs to hear about my mucus. Then I was all "Are you sorry you said it was OK?"
CS/Q: Naw.
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet?
Online. He got drunk one night after being dumped and winged his credit card at a friend who recommended online dating and said "Sign me up." Then he drunkenly messaged a bunch of women, one of them was me, then a month or two later when there was a free communication weekend I messaged back
TTC #1 since April 2015
RE Dx: Fibroids, surgery Jan 2016
IUI #1 and #2, Nov/Dec 2016, BFN
IVF March 2017: ER - 5R/3M/3F, 1 PGS normal
Polyp removed May 2017
FET May 2017 - BFP!
Baby boy born 2/2/18
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: CM/CP/temping, diet/exercise/all of the vitamins, OPKs starting maybe tomorrow
R/R: The board is active today! All of the more reason to get my act together before work. Not much to say today. Soaking up the last days of summer/teacher planning. I have an extra busy weekend coming up and will be team no sleep starting very, very soon.
CS/Q:
GTKY: How did you and your DH/SO meet? We met on my first day of high school. We remained friends through college and don't tell everyone this, but we were actually long distance friends with benefits in our first two years of college (he played rugby and was always at my school for away games). It wasn't until I was home one summer that he asked to take me out on a date. I was very emotionally guarded and wanted to say no, but needless to say I'm glad I took the chance.
@luckywife10 Sorry about CD 1. I definitely agree that there's a learning curve to overcome in the first couple of cycles. It's good that you and your DH are communicating about the BD'ing now, so that it does not become a stressful topic for you both in the future.
@Dilynne Sending hugs your way. This sounds like me last cycle. It's so much harder when you have that feeling like it might really be your time...and then it's not. I hope you do take time out for your mental health today, even if it's only outside of work hours. Usually it helps me to look towards the next cycle, but sometimes you just need to get away from it all before you can get to that point.
@slam1110 I don't discard temps but in your case, I would add a note if possible and also note the time difference. I'd rather have a slightly elevated temp there for reference than not there at all, but it's just a personal preference of mine. Because you could be close to O, I would keep it and override FF's estimated O date if needed.
@CallMeMrsChaos No advice for mobile bumping, but when I'm on a desktop I will open the WTO/TWW post in multiple tabs...one so that I can browse, and one so that I can reply. I'm sorry to hear that you struggle with OCD. I have clinical anxiety & depression and going off meds to TTC has been a whirlwind. I've said it before on here but I really am a master at worrying about things that have not even happened yet. My brain is always ten steps ahead. I'm not a therapist so I can only talk you down so much, but just try to keep in mind that in the big picture this is a small detail, one that you don't even know will be an issue. If you are fortunate enough to get your BFP this cycle, then you will have plenty of time to figure out things like birthdays logistically. There are so many things in life that cannot be solved/worked around, but this is not one of them. You'll make it work!
@BusinessWife FX for your HSG this cycle. Your fur babies are precious! I cannot wait for DH and I to move so that we can finally settle down somewhere and get some of our own.
(edited for wording because as usual I'm a mess)
@deadasthatsquirrel I still tell him that (jokingly of course haha)! Actually 'like' to us means more than 'love'. We promised to always love each other, but that doesn't mean we have to always like each other. So when we feel especially mushy and loving, we will say 'I like you' and it means so much more to hear that.
Also, I'm wondering if there's a story being your name. I giggled a little when I was typing it. (and now I'm hoping that there's no sad story behind it....)
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
@deadasthatsquirrel. Omg! That was my last guy! They told me he was a Pyr as a puppy, but then he was mostly 76-80 lbs only, (he also had mega-esophagus tjo). So one day someone saw him in the yard and asked if he was a kuvacz and I was like, hm! I wonder! Great dogs though. Here DH thought we'd be compromising with a smaller dog in the GSD (rather than full 150lb pyr) and here we are at almost 100 lbs and not even a year yet! Lol joke's on him ;)
Amy: He had to go.
B: You mean he’s dead?
A: Yes, dead as that squirrel!
B: Which squirrel?
*Amy shoots into the air, there's a squeak and a thud*
Oh, that squirrel.
@rainbowturtles on the saliva issue… I can’t help, but I can commiserate. It’s not an easy thing to work into conversation.
@Dilynne Sorry about CD 1. That sounds like a really rough one.
Now I can complain about my all over the place temps this month... ugh...
@Dilynne I'm sorry, I was only a couple days "late" this month but seriously got invested in the idea that we "did it". Then hello AF. Have a drink and doing something for you.