October 2016 Moms

The Official Babywearing Thread: ask your questions here!

It seems like there is a lot of interest around babywearing and some understandable confusion about it. There are lots of mamas on this board with tons of experience, so ask all your burning babywearing questions here! 
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Re: The Official Babywearing Thread: ask your questions here!

  • No questions; but just to get the thread started here's my experience: 

    People have a love/hate relationship with their Moby. Some love it because it's awesome, some hate it because there is so much fabric. I like the Moby with a newborn. Especially since I have multiple children (this will be #3). I will put the wrap on before I get in the car so that I don't have to do any wrapping while outside and risk it being on the ground. 

    For older, I have a Boba Air which is a SSC. I like that because it's easy to get the kid into, and I can back carry. I originally got it because we were going on vacation, and it looked easier than the Moby to get thru the airport (you have to take a carrier off when going thru security). It's not as comfortable as the Moby or other SSC, but it works for me. While DD2 was still not quite fitting in it, i used a receiving blanket or small towel, rolled it up and had her sit on it so her legs weren't uncomfortable. 

    I enjoy wearing because it leaves me with two hands to grab my toddler. And especially since this will be #3, I will be able to still hold both of my DDs hands while walking. Having a stroller; if my oldest were to dart away, I'd have to run with a stroller, or leave the stroller to get the older kid. That, to me, was way too much work. It was easier to have the kid strapped to me. 
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  • kmallskmalls member
    @msBlackandGold I think I'm going to have to invest in a Moby this time around. My friends are obsessed with theirs. I already have two Ergos, a Baby Bjorn (which I've never used) and a mei tei (LOVE), but...give me all the carriers!! 
  • Any options for wearing on the back? I have mid back issues and already I am suffering during pregnancy. I can't imagine having weight on the front of my body for any longer. 
  • kmallskmalls member
    @kathleenkat most carriers allow for back wearing, but I'm not sure if any are safe for a newborn. I'm no expert though, so maybe someone else can chime in. 
  • @kathleenkat You can safely carry a baby on your back in a ssc once they can sit up on their own, as they need to have enough head control and height to handle that position. I personally did not use woven wraps (so much work!) but you can back carry even newborns in those. The main trick is actually getting them in there!

    I will say that some carriers and wrap styles provide a lot more support for mom, distributing the weight across your hips and taking the pain/pressure off your back. I have back issues and really disliked the soft wraps once baby was heavier, but my Beco is super comfortable - I usually wear the straps criss-crossed instead of backpack style for even better weight distribution across my shoulders.
  • Okay, I have questions! :)

    Are wraps best suited for newborns... and then when the babies get "sturdier" do they then graduate to a non-wrap like the Tula, Lillebaby, etc?  Or can you use a Tula from when they are newborns?  

    What are your favorite brands for those wraps?  I'd love to hear about the wraps that are easy to put on/take off.... They seem so complicated.  
  • @annabenanna For tulas, you have to use an insert when they are first born (I think until 15lbs).  There is a new ergo that came out that has a lot of great features that I'm also looking at getting, and it does not need an insert.  It's called the adapt.  I love my tula, but I may get something else as well.
  • @annabenanna You can use woven wraps or ring slings even with toddlers, if you want to. I had a Moby wrap and a Baby K'tan- the Moby is a bit more comfortable, but more work. I opted to just use the K'tan for the first 3 months, then upgraded to my ssc once baby was getting too heavy for the K'tan (you technically can use it much longer, but I didn't find it gave much support for my back, and it stretched over time). The K'tan is really easy to use! Obviously the more you practice with the longer or woven wraps the easier those become, and they are definitely more flexible and cute, so that's really a personal choice.
  • Thanks @Piperella , it's like a neverending string of choices (just like the strollers!) and I'm getting overwhelmed. :(  I'm gonna look at the adapt! :)
  • @kmvisioli , aaaah, I will now look into this Baby K'tan you speak of! :)  Forgive my ignorance, but what is SSC? 
  • agogo1agogo1 member
    First off, thank you @kmalls for starting this thread! You rock.

    I've tried many, many, many carriers and wraps. I love my Tulas and Kinderpacks. I am planning to get a Lillebaby this time around as well. Yes, I have more carriers and wraps than necessary. It's just something I really enjoy and I've churned through them quite a bit to end up at my current stash.

    @annabenanna for the first 12 months or so I mostly wrapped. Stretchy wraps (like Moby wraps, Solly, etc.) are best suited for newborns. You can use a woven wrap from the newborn days on as well, and they are supportive enough to handle big kids (and even adults, but why on earth would anyone want to carry an adult). All wraps are just a length of fabric so none are really easier than others, but newborn carries with stretchy wraps are generally easier to figure out. I promise that wrapping really isn't that tricky--look up Front Wrap Cross Carry on Youtube. If you master that carry, you're pretty much golden. There are many, many wrap brands at a variety of price points. I like Tekhni, Butterfly Baby Co., and Tula wraps a lot. 

    If you want to try something "wrap-like" without having to learn how to do it, a lot of people like the K'tan for the early days. I didn't use soft structured carriers (like Tula, Ergo, etc.) for the first several months because I really didn't like the way that the infant inserts worked but I have heard that the Lillebaby works really well for teeny tinies if you want to try a SSC from the get-go. 
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  • @annabenanna Yes, look it up! SSC is Soft Structured Carrier, so basically anything like an Ergo, Beco, Tula, Lillebaby, etc. They give you more structure than a wrap, using straps and buckles instead of just fabric. Most baby/mom boutique stores have lots of different brands in stock and are happy to help you try them all on. Even Target now has a bunch- I just grabbed a stuffed animal to use in place of baby to try them on ;)
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    Ah, and to chime in on the back wearing...a lot of the SSC brands say no back wearing until 12 months for liability reasons, but as mentioned earlier once they can sit up on their own and have good head/neck control, you can try it. It is hard to get babies under a year or so up high enough on your back but it can certainly be done. Back wrapping babies under 6-9 months or so is only recommended for very experienced wrappers. It's not particularly safe for newborns unless you really know what you're doing (due to suffocation hazards, etc.). 
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  • I ordered this wrap today.  I've heard good things about the solly wrap...anyone happen to have one?  Crossing my fingers!  We tried a ring sling when dd was a newborn and she never felt secure so I gave up on baby wearing until she was around 6 month when we tried the Boba.  I can't find the Boba now, hopefully the Solly is a good option too!

     
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    @sidecarsareforbishes I have a Solly! They are great for smaller babies :)
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  • Also, someone mentioned that you need to remove baby when going through airport security, but I have never been asked to take my LO out of my wrap or ssc at airport security (and we have done probably 8 round trips through various airports in the past year). We just walk through the metal detector thing or bypass lane rather than the X-ray one, and then they ask you to step to the side to check your hands for any "residue". You DO need to remove baby from stroller and car seat if you go that route, as the stroller/seat go through the X-ray machine thing.
  • JamieK1882JamieK1882 member
    edited May 2016

    Love this thread thank you for starting @kmalls!

    With my first, I registered for and received a Becco Gemini just based on reviews I had read on Lucie's List (a SSC). I never tried any on or really tested them, but liked this one. It could be used from infant up. Someone told me it has an option for hip carry as well though I've never tried it.

    I honestly didnt' baby-wear very much with my first, but hope to this time around. I'll probably stick with my becco to begin with, and if I find myself using it more, may invest in others. Helpful to get ideas from this thread!

  • @agogo1 , you just sent me down a rabbit hole of watching YouTube babywearing videos. :)  Thank you so much for the info!  I am going to look into the brands you mentioned, as well as Solly.  I keep seeing them on instagram and LOVE their prints. 
  • Best baby wearing item for twins? Tula? Sakura? Moby?

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  • @nlane0723 everyone in the twin mom Facebook group I'm in recommends the TwinGo carrier, so I'm planning to get one of those! They also said you can do nb twins in a K'tan or in a Moby wrap. I think Lucie's List also has an article about twin carriers.
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    @kmvisioli @nlane0723 I don't know the details, but a number of the TwinGo carriers were just recalled. Might want to keep that in mind if you pick up a used one!
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  • @agogo1 yes, I did see that. The batch numbers are listed on the recall.
  • No questions right now, just wanted to chime in that I'm excited to revamp my stash to more boy colours! I've had 2 girls, lots of baby wearing experience, but a lot of my wovens are a little too girly. I mean what wrap fanatic doesn't like finding a new exuse to shop! 
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  • Oooh, ooh, I have a question!  I did not wear my first son nearly as much as I would have liked, so when a friend recommended a ring sling, I sort of blew her off.  But now I'm really interested in a ring sling for my second and I have no idea what I should be looking for.  Anyone have a favorite brand?  Has anyone tried to make one themselves?  (I'm tempted, but I'm not sure I'd trust my sewing skills.)
  • mkc3888mkc3888 member
    My sister gave me a baby ergo and a moby wrap.  I just looked up videos and it was much easier than I thought it would be.  I thought I would never be able to figure out the moby wrap! I'm a little excited about them now :)  

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  • Thank you so much for starting this thread. I've been contemplating becoming an official babywearing educator but just can't get enough time in with work and the toddler. I'm still definitely learning about all the different carriers but I'm more than happy to help out where I can. As soon as the tiny dictator falls asleep and I can get on my laptop I'll read more into this thread. ❤️
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  • Oooh, ooh, I have a question!  I did not wear my first son nearly as much as I would have liked, so when a friend recommended a ring sling, I sort of blew her off.  But now I'm really interested in a ring sling for my second and I have no idea what I should be looking for.  Anyone have a favorite brand?  Has anyone tried to make one themselves?  (I'm tempted, but I'm not sure I'd trust my sewing skills.)
    Some of my favorite Ring Slings are Tula, Tekhni or Sakura Bloom. Girasol makes some excellent slings as well. Shameless plug, but for funsies I have a few blog posts about babywearing. Here's one on Ring Slings.

    Also, I love love love LOOOOOVE Wrap You in Love. There are some amazing video tutorials, including belly wrapping for us pregnant mamas, reviews, tips, etc. Definitely check her out!
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  • With LO I used a moby (too much work, neither of us liked it that much even once we got the hang of it), followed by an Ergo 360. The infant insert in the 360 can be warm/cumbersome, but it worked well for winter. I don't think ergo is the most comfortable carrier out there, but it was a great choice b/c for a long time LO only tolerated facing out.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only SSC's on the market that face-out right now are Ergo 360, Beco Gemini, and Lillebaby. Idk why but I just had a feeling that any kid of mine wasn't going to tolerate facing in and not seeing the world for long. So if you're in the market for an SSC, I would strongly recommend one of these three.

    That being said, I am SO excited to use my new Kinderpack on this next LO. It's got a mesh panel, can be used from about 8 lbs (DS was born at nearly 9lb so good to go), and I hear great things about how comfortable they are. I'm considering a k'tan, or maybe even a woven Solly, but I may just skip these and go straight to the KP. 

    I shouldn't knock it since I haven't tried it, but from the looks of it and from what I hear people say, I absolutely hate the idea of a ring sling. It sounds to me like everything I disliked about when DS got heavier in the Ergo (ie: straps digging into my shoulder uncomfortably) plus the added awkwardness of Moby's learning curve. 
  • Can someone explain all the added accessories I see on some SSCs?  I've seen them all over etsy and on some pictures I've seen.  Think one is called suck pads? 
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    Piperella said:
    Can someone explain all the added accessories I see on some SSCs?  I've seen them all over etsy and on some pictures I've seen.  Think one is called suck pads? 
    @Piperella - I'd use serious caution with any accessory that isn't sold by the maker of the carrier. It most likely hasn't gone through any safety testing and could pose a hazard to baby. I have no idea what a suck pad is, but if it goes in baby's mouth I'd skip it altogether. 

    Personally I use the same rule of thumb for baby carriers that I do for car seats: if it doesn't come with the product at the moment of purchase, I'm not using it. 
  • kmvisiolikmvisioli member
    edited May 2016
    @kmalls and @piperella Suck pads are available from the manufacturer and are basically covers for the straps of your ssc which are easier to remove and wash, because your teething baby will just hang out in the carrier chewing/sucking on the straps

    To add: other accessories I've seen (from manufacturers) could include a nb insert to use your carrier with a smaller baby, a rain hood which is self explanatory and some people also use to nurse while babywearing, or an extra part that basically adds a warm outer layer during cold months.
  • kmallskmalls member
    kmvisioli said:
    @kmalls and @piperella Suck pads are available from the manufacturer and are basically covers for the straps of your ssc which are easier to remove and wash, because your teething baby will just hang out in the carrier chewing/sucking on the straps

    To add: other accessories I've seen (from manufacturers) could include a nb insert to use your carrier with a smaller baby, a rain hood which is self explanatory and some people also use to nurse while babywearing, or an extra part that basically adds a warm outer layer during cold months.
    Ah! That makes sense. If it comes from the manufacturer, buy away. I definitely wouldn't buy anything from Etsy as it hadn't been tested for safety. 
  • edited May 2016
    kmalls said:
    Piperella said:
    Can someone explain all the added accessories I see on some SSCs?  I've seen them all over etsy and on some pictures I've seen.  Think one is called suck pads? 
    @Piperella - I'd use serious caution with any accessory that isn't sold by the maker of the carrier. It most likely hasn't gone through any safety testing and could pose a hazard to baby. I have no idea what a suck pad is, but if it goes in baby's mouth I'd skip it altogether. 

    Personally I use the same rule of thumb for baby carriers that I do for car seats: if it doesn't come with the product at the moment of purchase, I'm not using it. 
    I can't speak for all accessory makers but most of them have compliance testing they have to pass before they sell their suck pads and hoods. I forget what it's called but there's been some discussion about it on various accessories groups. There are some whackadoodles who make accessories that I can't imagine how they are safe (bejeweled for instance), but there are several compliance tested safe suck pads and hoods. Most of them are just pieces of fabric with KAM snaps or Velcro (my preference) to keep them on your straps. In no way does it affect the structure or safety of the carrier or child inside the carrier, which you sometimes see with car seat accessories. Just thought I'd throw that piece of info out there. ;)

    ETA: it's BCIA regulations... That's the one. Several reputable accessory makers will go through the BCIA guidelines before putting anything for sale. You just have to be smart. Not all accessory makers do this and not all accessory makers are reputable. 

    ETA: removed legally. There's no legality behind it, you're just an asshole if you make and sell unsafe stuff. ;)
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  • kmallskmalls member
    Right, like I said if it's sold by the manufacturer I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Of course they have safety standards. The crap on Etsy is just too unknown to assume it's safe, and it goes beyond affecting the structure of the carrier -- the dyes used on the fabric aren't necessarily kid-safe, buttons and snaps have to be lead tested, etc. 
  • kmalls said:
    Right, like I said if it's sold by the manufacturer I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. Of course they have safety standards. The crap on Etsy is just too unknown to assume it's safe, and it goes beyond affecting the structure of the carrier -- the dyes used on the fabric aren't necessarily kid-safe, buttons and snaps have to be lead tested, etc. 
    Agreed, but let's not assume it's ALL stuff, as several reputable shop owners use Etsy as a front. Tekhni, for instance, runs their operations on Etsy. They are a widely popular and well regarded baby carrier maker. I think the bigger point is to just make sure you do your research if you're buying from somewhere other than the manufacturer. Babywearing retailers will also sell non-manufacturer provided accessories, which puts them at a risk for liability. Most of those shop owners (not assuming all since assumptions should never be in place) will only buy from reputable WAHM or accessory creators. The BCIA guidelines are pretty straightforward. Of course, if you're still uncomfortable that's totally cool and understandable. There's no rule saying you must have a custom hood or you cannot have suck pads. :) 
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  • @kmalls sorry mama, totally not trying to come off bitchy. I just want to make sure other's who are learning about babywearing and are maybe curious can see different viewpoints. I'm a research nut. I would never in a million years do anything to put my son at risk, and I use accessories on my SSC's. In the end, I stand by this 100%, it's all about what you are comfortable with as a parent. Just like there are different ways to be a good mom, there are different ways to babywear. :)
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  • kmallskmalls member
    edited May 2016
    @nsquaredlife13 no issues here. I personally don't touch Etsy products with a 10 foot pole unless they're clearly tested and recommended (like you). I just get nervous when people are like "oh I saw this super cute thing on Etsy!" and have no idea what they're buying. 
  • rebeccuhrebeccuh member
    edited May 2016
    We're getting the Boba structured carrier, but I want a wrap option too. Thanks for this thread!

    With the fabric wraps, can you use them to hold babies on the hip when they get a little bigger or are most of them designed front-facing only*?  Is it just all in how you wrap it the kid up?


    ETA: I mean front facing in that the baby is on your front, not that the baby is facing out to the world. 
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