@mrsdaddario I hope everything goes well for you! I understand trying to get everything put together and then your hard work gets undone. FX for you this month also!!
@BusinessWife Ahhh the practicing!! Do you play piano or something else? I'm always getting called up to fill in at church. Sometimes with notice, sometimes not lol. Also, thinking of you in this hard time. I was really close with my grandma when she passed.
@linzrunz aww poor puppy! I'm such a softy with my 2 furbabies. I'd take them everywhere if I could. Have fun with your family and safe travels!
@CoonMom Vent all you want! I know how it feels to have friend after friend get KU and you're still out. Especially going through a loss, I look at my friends and think why do they get KU so easily and not have any problems but I lose my baby. Sometimes it just helps to scream it's not fair!!! I'll be thinking about you and sending hugs!
@Dilynne I know they mean well, but don't pay any attention when people say stuff like that. The other day my H said "it'll happen in God's time" when we were having a discussion about him not having sex with me. Not how it works! So just ignore what people say and vent to those who understand.
@TheJerilu That sounds like a good idea. My H is always talking sex but it didn't happen half as much as he talked it up. This month has been better.
@mokay19 Makes sense to get the hsg after the SA results. (Even though I got it in reverse order). The only weird thing is if your glucose is normal, wit's curious the doctor would put you on Metformin. I'm not insulin resistant, but have PCOS, and I was told by both the OB who dx me, and my RE, that Metformin would not help me because I wasn't resistant. Maybe if you can get a second opinion on that, I would. And definitely get your lining issue looked into. I was just telling DH last night I wish I hadn't of listened to the RE's nurses, and instead listened to HIM, when he said that I didn't need to start a new AF cycle before going on Letrozole. I listened to the nurses who insisted I needed to get AF. I say that because at CD 35 I had a perfectly thick lining. Now starting fresh, my lining is dismal (5.25MM on CD 14, womp womp). I feel like it would have been beneficial for me to have just started it then, while lining was thick. Instead of shedding it off in AF. Live and learn. Can't wait to see how your H's SA goes, that will really set the tone for your plan of attack!
@Dilynne I'm so sorry you're feeling so down. I completely understand how you are feeling. The first few months I went off HBC, my periods were normal. 32 days, 34 days, and then......a 49 day cycle. Followed by an 80+ day cycle that I needed an OB to kick start. Let me tell you, and this may be an unpopular opinion, but don't trust FF. It's literally only an app on your phone when all is said and done. Especially for those of us who have irregular cycles. I truly believe FF only really works for those who have normal cycles, no fertility issues. Of course I am NOT saying that to scare you, as I have zero idea if you have issues or not! I'm in no way, shape, or form a docta! I know you have an appointment coming up very soon, and hopefully that will give you some answers! In the meantime, be extra kind to yourself today! This whole weekend for that matter!
@BusinessWife – hugs @CoonMom I am so sorry. I would feel
the same way too. Any chance of getting
a second opinion with a different doctor re: waiting to do further testing? @Dilynne – that comment gives me all the rage for you! I mean, she may have meant it in a “it’s just
not time YET” but man…what a thing to say
Months / Cycle: 1/1
CD: 18
WAYDTGKTFU: HIO EOD, PNVs, failing at CM checking
R/R/CS: I worry that my infertility
history is going to turn me into a crazy person again. I handled it so poorly, and even though I
have reason to believe my problems (anovulation) may be behind me, I still can’t
help but feel like there is a “no point in trying” cloud hanging over my head. Obviously it is way too early to be feeling
that way, and the last time I went off of the pill I ovulated right away, so
why can’t I be optimistic and think it may happen again that way this
time? Anyway, I notice that a lot of you
ladies who have been trying for a long time have amazing attitudes about it
much of the time, and I really admire that, so I am trying to have it rub off
on me!
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
It is my husband’s birthday today, and I ordered an ice cream cake for
him. I may be a little too excited about
the ice cream cake….
@Dilynne I'm so sorry you're feeling so down. I completely understand how you are feeling. The first few months I went off HBC, my periods were normal. 32 days, 34 days, and then......a 49 day cycle. Followed by an 80+ day cycle that I needed an OB to kick start. Let me tell you, and this may be an unpopular opinion, but don't trust FF. It's literally only an app on your phone when all is said and done. Especially for those of us who have irregular cycles. I truly believe FF only really works for those who have normal cycles, no fertility issues. Of course I am NOT saying that to scare you, as I have zero idea if you have issues or not! I'm in no way, shape, or form a docta! I know you have an appointment coming up very soon, and hopefully that will give you some answers! In the meantime, be extra kind to yourself today! This whole weekend for that matter!
I couldn't agree with you more about FF just being an app/website. I in no way go off of what FF tells me. When I talked to my Ob/Gyn, I said if the app I use is accurate, and she was like absolutely if it was right. I kind of use FF as a benchmark and then go from there. I also agree that it's generally helpful to those that have regular cycles. I hated when I first downloaded the app it asked me how long my cycles were. I didn't know what to put because some are 45 days, some have been 50, some 65 and some over 90.
Me: 32 DH: 31
Married: July 14, 2007 TTC #1: January 2008 Surprise BFP: November 2009
R/R/CS: just wishing O would happen. The last two cycles when I had been using EPO, O was delayed until after CD 20. I am not touching that stuff anymore after figuring out it threw off my cycles. Hopefully I will get back to my more regular cycles soon.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
Staying in and having a video game date day with the hubby. He loves it when I play with him even though I suck at it.
@crazypt2285 I don't think you can figure out O day for sure with just opk. Some days I O two days after pos opk, sometimes day after (these are confirmed with bbt). There was also a month that I didn't O at all but got a positive opk. It would be a guess. Good luck!!
Edited because use my phone is jumping around as I'm typing and I'm going to throw it across the room.
@becbec28 That is so great! I sing, actually. Do you play piano then? We have a new music director who is great, but he's also a composer so he's throwing a lot of new music at us - not just his own, but is composer friends' lol - plus he is hoping to give me more responsibility than the previous director had given me, and potentially recruiting for a children's choir I'd get to help with so there is a lot to do there in order to keep my level of performance up to the professional standards I have for myself. PLUS a big festival concert on Friday that family is coming into town for, so no pressure! lol
@becbec28 That is so great! I sing, actually. Do you play piano then? We have a new music director who is great, but he's also a composer so he's throwing a lot of new music at us - not just his own, but is composer friends' lol - plus he is hoping to give me more responsibility than the previous director had given me, and potentially recruiting for a children's choir I'd get to help with so there is a lot to do there in order to keep my level of performance up to the professional standards I have for myself. PLUS a big festival concert on Friday that family is coming into town for, so no pressure! lol
@BusinessWife That sounds like so much fun!!! I play piano, French Horn, and sing. Our church choir is very much older, so we don't get to sing new stuff very often. I would love to sing under a composer and help with a children's choir! I'm hoping that once we have a kid my stay-at-home job will be giving music lessons and maybe find a church or school to "hire" me. Have fun in the festival concert!! I love those!
@mrsdaddario yes I agree about the Metformin! I outright asked her if it makes sense for me to even waste it taking it if my glucose levels don't show that it'll do anything and she was like "just in case" you can keep taking it... But I plan on asking again whenever I do go back because it's a pain in the butt since I have to focus my meals around it haha. I was hoping they would do the HSG before or at least around the same time as the SA since right now my main issue is not ovulating. But I'm glad that my DH is able to get in and get this out of the way. Do you know if Letrozle or Clomid are supposed to promote your uterine lining thickening up? Or is that a separate beast to tackle? ..off to Dr Google to research this.... My doctor mentioned that they mostly use Clomid at their office, but is there one that is better or worse for someone with PCOS?
@Coonmom if bumping from work makes you a rebel, then I'm one too! I sometimes wonder what IT would think if they ever could check peoples' computers for the things they look at during work hours. There would definitely be some red faces around here, mine included Sorry you're having a rough day, though. Vent away! That's what we're here for! Also @antoto seriously no matter how many times I see your siggy, that picture of Farrah still horrifies me every time @Dilynne sorry H's Aunt said that. Holy crap I'd be pissed. And also snowing?! Ugh... Congrats @clover28 !
Months / Cycle: 5/4
CD: 11
WAYDTGKTFU: Washing down all the rest of the things with a nice cup of green tea
R/R/CS: Just settling in for the rest of the 12+ days I'll probably have until I O. Weather around here still stinks- they were talking on the radio yesterday about possibly breaking the record of most consecutive days in a row with precipitation. Sweet.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?! DH has a bachelor party to go to this weekend so I'm going to relax and do girly things instead of yard work like we've been doing for the last few weekends! Pretty psyched for crappy TV, doing my nails, and maybe some retail therapy.
R/R/CS: I'm a raging b*tch today. Doesn't help that I was confident yesterday was O day and I felt OK with our timing but I'm having the longest surge I've ever had - it's been almost 48 hours of clear positive Wondfos opks, o pain, headaches and irritability. We Should HIO tonight but OH is exhausted and is not in the mood and I don't wanna push it so I'm just Sulking here at work because our timing went from ok to terrible. End rant.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
The weather is supposed to be pretty cruddy here so my plans of planting went out the window. Prob take DS somewhere for some indoor fun and maybe actually relax a little bit Sunday
@mokay19 I've read that Clomid can mess with CM, dry it up and (in some women, not all) thin out the lining. I personally haven't been on it, but I did ask my RE about it at our consultation. Specifically the thought that one can only be on it for 6 cycles because it can cause cancer. What he said was he's not convinced there is enough scientific studies/evidence that it does. He doesn't recommend being on it more than 6 cycles because in his opinion if it is going to work for a couple, it will work within the first 3-4 cycles. Same with Letrozole. If it's going to work, he's convinced it will work within 3-4 cycles. He said he generally uses Letrozole first because a lot of PCOS patients have success with Letrozole, and it doesn't have the side effects that Clomid does. Of course, that is all his personal preference, so I can't speak on behalf of other RE's. Also, I would assume that he is talking about patient's who only have anovulation issues. As he was referring all of this around DH and I, and our only issue is my lack of O.
R/R/CS: This will make me sound like a horrible person, but I volunteer at a cancer hospital on Friday nights and I just don't want to go anymore. I'm so dead tired from dealing with high schoolers all week long, I'd love to sit on my couch and just stare at the wall and drool. I know I have all weekend to do that, but it's nice to put your feet up on a Friday night
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
Not really. Having lunch with a friend I haven't seen in a while on Saturday. Cleaning, laundry and grading the rest of the weekend. Blegh.
R/R/CS: Had acupuncture today... my acupuncturist was telling me he had to take his BBT when he was in college studying chinese medicine so he could understand it better. Then he was asking all about my chart. I immediately like anyone who asks me about my chart #ttcnerd
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?! Going to be moving this weekend UGH.
Me: 28 DH: 28
TTC #1 since Nov. 2015 Dx: Both tubes blocked, PCOS, DOR, RPL IVF Cycle #1 Dec. 2016 - 11R·11M·5F - Transferred 2 - BFP - Miscarriage - 0 Embryos Left
IVF Cycle #2 March 2017 - 5R·4M·3F - Transferred 1 - BFP - Miscarriage - 0 Embryos Left
WAYDTGKTFU: Sex... just sex... well, and OPKS... after temping for 9 months, I'm just done.
R/R/CS: My opk's are still negative they've always been positive by now.. so annoying.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?! We're on vacation! Sort of... I have a CE conference this weekend at a beach city, so I brought DH along (otherwise we would have missed our entire fertile window) It's slightly warmer here then home, and its fun to have the ocean sounds to sleep to at night. I love CE conferences, they are so inspiring and I feel reenergized afterward.
Me 34 DH 36 Married since July 2010 MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
TTC #1 since June 2015 Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved. Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature 5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP! May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019 July 2019 - FET - BFN Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
@mylove071407 I'm sorry to hear that you understand my frustrations! It sucks that it feels so out of our control
ETA: and stuck in quote box. My phone ate my post. I hate feeling out of control. While I'm happy I got AF on my own which rarely happened in the past, I am bummed that there's no chance of me being KTFU.
Me: 32 DH: 31
Married: July 14, 2007 TTC #1: January 2008 Surprise BFP: November 2009
Re: WTO Friday
@mrsdaddario I hope everything goes well for you! I understand trying to get everything put together and then your hard work gets undone. FX for you this month also!!
@BusinessWife Ahhh the practicing!! Do you play piano or something else? I'm always getting called up to fill in at church. Sometimes with notice, sometimes not lol. Also, thinking of you in this hard time. I was really close with my grandma when she passed.
@linzrunz aww poor puppy! I'm such a softy with my 2 furbabies. I'd take them everywhere if I could. Have fun with your family and safe travels!
@CoonMom Vent all you want! I know how it feels to have friend after friend get KU and you're still out. Especially going through a loss, I look at my friends and think why do they get KU so easily and not have any problems but I lose my baby. Sometimes it just helps to scream it's not fair!!! I'll be thinking about you and sending hugs!
@Dilynne I know they mean well, but don't pay any attention when people say stuff like that. The other day my H said "it'll happen in God's time" when we were having a discussion about him not having sex with me. Not how it works! So just ignore what people say and vent to those who understand.
@TheJerilu That sounds like a good idea. My H is always talking sex but it didn't happen half as much as he talked it up. This month has been better.
@clover28 CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!
Married: 9/2013
Love my LEO!!
TTC #1: 9/2015
BFP: 2/1/16 MC 2/8/16 @ 5wks
BFP: 5/22/16 RAINBOW BABY
EDD: 1/30/2017 *IT'S A GIRL!!!!*
Kirsten Grace 1/20/17
@Dilynne I'm so sorry you're feeling so down. I completely understand how you are feeling. The first few months I went off HBC, my periods were normal. 32 days, 34 days, and then......a 49 day cycle. Followed by an 80+ day cycle that I needed an OB to kick start. Let me tell you, and this may be an unpopular opinion, but don't trust FF. It's literally only an app on your phone when all is said and done. Especially for those of us who have irregular cycles. I truly believe FF only really works for those who have normal cycles, no fertility issues. Of course I am NOT saying that to scare you, as I have zero idea if you have issues or not! I'm in no way, shape, or form a docta! I know you have an appointment coming up very soon, and hopefully that will give you some answers! In the meantime, be extra kind to yourself today! This whole weekend for that matter!
@mrsdaddario and @mokay19 – good luck in the upcoming days
@BusinessWife – hugs
@CoonMom I am so sorry. I would feel the same way too. Any chance of getting a second opinion with a different doctor re: waiting to do further testing?
@Dilynne – that comment gives me all the rage for you! I mean, she may have meant it in a “it’s just not time YET” but man…what a thing to say
Months / Cycle: 1/1
CD: 18
WAYDTGKTFU: HIO EOD, PNVs, failing at CM checking
R/R/CS: I worry that my infertility history is going to turn me into a crazy person again. I handled it so poorly, and even though I have reason to believe my problems (anovulation) may be behind me, I still can’t help but feel like there is a “no point in trying” cloud hanging over my head. Obviously it is way too early to be feeling that way, and the last time I went off of the pill I ovulated right away, so why can’t I be optimistic and think it may happen again that way this time? Anyway, I notice that a lot of you ladies who have been trying for a long time have amazing attitudes about it much of the time, and I really admire that, so I am trying to have it rub off on me!
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
It is my husband’s birthday today, and I ordered an ice cream cake for him. I may be a little too excited about the ice cream cake….
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Me: 32 DH: 31
TTC #1: January 2008
Surprise BFP: November 2009
CP: September 2016
CD: 14
WAYDTGKTFU: everything
R/R/CS: just wishing O would happen. The last two cycles when I had been using EPO, O was delayed until after CD 20. I am not touching that stuff anymore after figuring out it threw off my cycles. Hopefully I will get back to my more regular cycles soon.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
Staying in and having a video game date day with the hubby. He loves it when I play with him even though I suck at it.
Edited because use my phone is jumping around as I'm typing and I'm going to throw it across the room.
@BusinessWife That sounds like so much fun!!! I play piano, French Horn, and sing. Our church choir is very much older, so we don't get to sing new stuff very often. I would love to sing under a composer and help with a children's choir! I'm hoping that once we have a kid my stay-at-home job will be giving music lessons and maybe find a church or school to "hire" me. Have fun in the festival concert!! I love those!
Married: 9/2013
Love my LEO!!
TTC #1: 9/2015
BFP: 2/1/16 MC 2/8/16 @ 5wks
BFP: 5/22/16 RAINBOW BABY
EDD: 1/30/2017 *IT'S A GIRL!!!!*
Kirsten Grace 1/20/17
Do you know if Letrozle or Clomid are supposed to promote your uterine lining thickening up? Or is that a separate beast to tackle? ..off to Dr Google to research this.... My doctor mentioned that they mostly use Clomid at their office, but is there one that is better or worse for someone with PCOS?
Thanks for all the love today. Still feeling crappy but you guys do help.
@HopingForOneAgain I do think I'll get a second opinion after DH does his part.
~Formerly @dogmomwantinghuman ~
TTC #1 since January 2015
BFP #1: 11/30/15| MC 12/16/15BFP # 2: 6/2/16 | EDD 2/16/17
Also @antoto seriously no matter how many times I see your siggy, that picture of Farrah still horrifies me every time
@Dilynne sorry H's Aunt said that. Holy crap I'd be pissed. And also snowing?! Ugh...
Congrats @clover28 !
Months / Cycle: 5/4
CD: 11
WAYDTGKTFU: Washing down all the rest of the things with a nice cup of green tea
R/R/CS: Just settling in for the rest of the 12+ days I'll probably have until I O. Weather around here still stinks- they were talking on the radio yesterday about possibly breaking the record of most consecutive days in a row with precipitation. Sweet.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?! DH has a bachelor party to go to this weekend so I'm going to relax and do girly things instead of yard work like we've been doing for the last few weekends! Pretty psyched for crappy TV, doing my nails, and maybe some retail therapy.
CD: 13
WAYDTGKTFU: everything
R/R/CS: I'm a raging b*tch today. Doesn't help that I was confident yesterday was O day and I felt OK with our timing but I'm having the longest surge I've ever had - it's been almost 48 hours of clear positive Wondfos opks, o pain, headaches and irritability. We Should HIO tonight but OH is exhausted and is not in the mood and I don't wanna push it so I'm just Sulking here at work because our timing went from ok to terrible. End rant.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
The weather is supposed to be pretty cruddy here so my plans of planting went out the window. Prob take DS somewhere for some indoor fun and maybe actually relax a little bit Sunday
DX Diminished Ovarian Reserve, Factor V Leiden Mutation, Secondary Infertility
MFI (SA #1Count 11mill, Motility: 18%, Morphology: 1%)
AMH .328 | FSH 13.2
CD: 2
WAYDTGKTFU: temping, charting, sexy times
R/R/CS: This will make me sound like a horrible person, but I volunteer at a cancer hospital on Friday nights and I just don't want to go anymore.
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
Not really. Having lunch with a friend I haven't seen in a while on Saturday. Cleaning, laundry and grading the rest of the weekend. Blegh.
CD: 10
WAYDTGKTFU: bbt, pnvs, cm, opks, acupuncture
R/R/CS: Had acupuncture today... my acupuncturist was telling me he had to take his BBT when he was in college studying chinese medicine so he could understand it better. Then he was asking all about my chart. I immediately like anyone who asks me about my chart #ttcnerd
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
Going to be moving this weekend UGH.
Dx: Both tubes blocked, PCOS, DOR, RPL
IVF Cycle #1 Dec. 2016 - 11R·11M·5F - Transferred 2 - BFP - Miscarriage - 0 Embryos Left
CD: 13
WAYDTGKTFU: Sex... just sex... well, and OPKS... after temping for 9 months, I'm just done.
R/R/CS: My opk's are still negative
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?!
We're on vacation! Sort of... I have a CE conference this weekend at a beach city, so I brought DH along (otherwise we would have missed our entire fertile window) It's slightly warmer here then home, and its fun to have the ocean sounds to sleep to at night. I love CE conferences, they are so inspiring and I feel reenergized afterward.
MFI (High DNA Fragmentation) & Mild endometriosis
Aug 2016 - May 2017 6 IUI's with letrozole - BFN
April 2017 - laparoscopy to remove mild endo
June 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU - Cancelled early ovulation, no eggs retrieved.
Aug/Sept 2017 - Mini IVF letrozole 12.5mg, Gonal-F 75IU, cetrotide - 13 eggs retrieved, 11 mature
5 eggs ICSI'd 6 eggs frozen - 1 day 5 blast transfered, 2 expanded blast frozen - BFP!
May 2018 - Baby girl born - Our Joy
TTC #2 since July 2019
July 2019 - FET - BFN
Jan 2020 - FET - canceled due to family health issues
Mar 2020 - FET - low beta - chemical pregnancy
July 2020 - ICSI'd remaining 6 eggs - 3 fertilized - 2 survived to early blast stage, transfered both - Chemical Pregnancy
CD: 3
WAYDTGKTFU: all the things
R/R/CS: Taking a break from fertility treatments until after summer due to moving and starting a new job
GTKY: It's Friday!!!! Any exciting plans for your weekend?! I'm at a conference out of town and am going to a gala party at a new museum tomorrow.
Me: 32 DH: 31
TTC #1: January 2008
Surprise BFP: November 2009
CP: September 2016