What bothers me is the number of girls I see with the cut off jean shorts. The high waisted ones they cut at a diagonal so they cut high in the hip. I saw way too much ass cheek fold last summer.
I see women wearing short workout shorts like that at the gym all the time now. It's disgusting. Nothing wrong with looking cute at the gym, but I don't want your bare butt cheek (and all the sweat....and God knows what else....coming off on it) touching the equipment.
This goes for men too.
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@charla1224 and @kurrant, I think there is a divide in this country. Not on race or political stance. But on Friends vs Seinfeld. I have been saying this for years. Personally I DESPISE Seinfeld but would watch 24 hours of Friends marathon if I could. Definitely have noticed that people tend to like one over the other.
I actually hate both. So there's that...
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I am in complete agreement that Ross was the worst character on the show, but that hasn't stopped me from watching every episode 50 times each!
My UO this week is that older people are very rude but can get away with it because they are older. I've worked in customer service since I was 17 (first in a restaurant, then I worked for a news website, hotel, and then a bank). I have never been screamed at by anyone under the age of 25, nor have I felt like less than a person when trying to help young customers. Older folks, however, seem to believe they are entitled to much more than any other customer and feel the right to yell at or mistreat anyone in the service industry as soon as something doesn't go their way. Trust me, I can understand your anger when a company or employee is too incompetent to complete the standard service you have paid for. But that doesn't give you the right to mistreat a human being who is genuinely trying to help you. It frustrates me that so many young people are understanding and calm in these situations but older people think there is something seriously wrong with that generation (sagging pants aside).
Whaaaa whatttt????? Ross was the best!! I mean, who else gets stuck in his leather pants (best episode ever).
Thank you @yogahh ! Ross was the best and funniest character on the show!! ("It tastes like feet!")
I do love them all but Chandler was the worst one if you ask me. He basically only communicated in offensive one liners that were rarely funny.
I guess I'm in the minority because I love both Friends and Seinfeld equally! I've seen every episode of both shows numerous times. They're totally different to me and I never thought to compare or choose one over the other.
Not a fan of Frasier though. I never understood how this blue collar New Yorker type dad raised two snobby, elitist sons with the most annoying way of speaking.
In current TV, I HATE Big Bang theory with a passion. It is not at all funny and kind of makes fun of people on the spectrum. I do not understand how anyone could like it.
Loved Seinfeld, enjoyed Friends but always disliked Ross, hated Frasier because of the title character. My gold standards for TV comedy are 30 Rock, The Office,Parks and Recreation and Arrested Development.
My UO (at least maybe on this board) is that I think epidurals are swell, at least as friends and my nurse mom have described them.
Y'all, I was getting impatient for my husband to get out of bed (he's been sleeping allllll day and I'm awake and normally I leave him alone but I'm super hungry and we're supposed to go out to dinner), so as soon as LO started kicking me, I hopped in and snuggled the bump right up next to him and SUCCESS, GUYS. He's mildly annoyed but he's up!
@kami09 Ugh, I forgot about that! I was more of a Niles fan anyway. :P Though it has been a long time since I've watched that show...
Wasn't sure I would share this one but here goes. I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural. Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption? And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
I am in complete agreement that Ross was the worst character on the show, but that hasn't stopped me from watching every episode 50 times each!
My UO this week is that older people are very rude but can get away with it because they are older. I've worked in customer service since I was 17 (first in a restaurant, then I worked for a news website, hotel, and then a bank). I have never been screamed at by anyone under the age of 25, nor have I felt like less than a person when trying to help young customers. Older folks, however, seem to believe they are entitled to much more than any other customer and feel the right to yell at or mistreat anyone in the service industry as soon as something doesn't go their way. Trust me, I can understand your anger when a company or employee is too incompetent to complete the standard service you have paid for. But that doesn't give you the right to mistreat a human being who is genuinely trying to help you. It frustrates me that so many young people are understanding and calm in these situations but older people think there is something seriously wrong with that generation (sagging pants aside).
Whaaaa whatttt????? Ross was the best!! I mean, who else gets stuck in his leather pants (best episode ever).
Thank you @yogahh ! Ross was the best and funniest character on the show!! ("It tastes like feet!")
I do love them all but Chandler was the worst one if you ask me. He basically only communicated in offensive one liners that were rarely funny.
"Beef sautéed with peas and onions". That's my second favorite episode!!
ok I love chandler too. Hated Monica. She grated on every nerve I have. To rank them 1- rachel 2- ross 3- chandler 4- joey 5- pheobe 6- Monica
I LOVE Golden Girls. I watch them every day and always have at least 4-5 episodes on my DVR to turn on as I get ready to leave the house.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
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I LOVE FRASIER! and seinfeld and friends. but yes to frasier and i started DVRing it because it's been ages since I've seen it and it gets me laughing every time.
Wasn't sure I would share this one but here goes. I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural. Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption? And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
I can agree with this and I already know that if I'm able to, I will choose an epidural again. I'm interested to see who flip-flops from their pre-birth expectations. Either those who think they absolutely DO want one and decide not to get one or those who think they won't and then do
ETA: after reading other responses, I agree that Unmedicated is a better and more sensitive term than natural.
I LOVE Golden Girls. I watch them every day and always have at least 4-5 episodes on my DVR to turn on as I get ready to leave the house.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
Yes to both of these.... I flipping love Rose, Sofia, Dorothy et al. I could probably watch Golden Girls all weekend.
Wasn't sure I would share this one but here goes. I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural. Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption? And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
I can see how saying natural and unnatural could be offensive to people though. What's natural is having your baby with the method that is most safe for mom and baby. Why does it HAVE to be called natural? I would never tell someone that had IVF or fertility treatments that their pregnancy isn't natural because they needed assistance, that's ridiculous. So shouldn't the same consideration be given to women that need to have a c-section for medical reasons? I think using the term natural could, potentially, make women who had to have a c-section feel like the term is being used as a superior connotation.
So basically, I just think that phrase shouldn't be used at all.
Wasn't sure I would share this one but here goes. I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural. Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption? And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
I am planning on no epidural but in all honestly I don't know if I will be able to cope. My OB keeps saying "Good!" with a huge smile every time she asks if I am planning to have one and I say no. Her enthusiasm annoys me because it makes me feel like if I have to get one then she will be disappointed or something. I have some family members that feel the need to point out that they didn't have one. DH is also against the epi and if I am going to be honest here . . . to hell with him if he gives me a hard time if I decide I need one. I think I have a low pain threshold but aside from Kidney Stones I have nothing to base this on. I've never really had anything happen to me...never even broken a bone. I sat on broken glass as a kid and had to get stitches but I don't remember it, I only remember being afraid of it because when I looked in the mirror it looked like I had a huge spider on my butt cheek.
So basically I agree that there is nothing wrong with having an epidural but I can totally understand why some people feel like they have to defend their choice when it seems so many people look at it in such negative way.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
I agree with you 100%. But that's also doesn't seem to be what happens. My point is the problem's not the adjectives. The problem is the perspective of the adjectives.
@JessicaB0627 I guess I've never seen/ heard someone tell others their birth was "unnatural." I get that is the opposite of natural but I also think it's a stretch to assume that when a person describes one birth as natural they're referring to any other births as unnatural and negative. Sometimes I think in trying to be "sensitive" to one side of things we shut down and shut up the other side. I'm not naive to our need to be sensitive with our words but I also don't think we need to over think facts and the definition of words to spare sensitive feelings.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
I agree with you 100%. But that's also doesn't seem to be what happens. My point is the problem's not the adjectives. The problem is the perspective of the adjectives.
There wouldn't be different perspectives if the adjectives didn't exist. It would just be known as simply birth and the perspective wouldn't leave women feeling less than another or greater than another all bc of what their bodies and/or mentalities were capable of doing/allowing.
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I LOVE Golden Girls. I watch them every day and always have at least 4-5 episodes on my DVR to turn on as I get ready to leave the house.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
Wasn't sure I would share this one but here goes. I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural. Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption? And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
I can see how saying natural and unnatural could be offensive to people though. What's natural is having your baby with the method that is most safe for mom and baby. Why does it HAVE to be called natural? I would never tell someone that had IVF or fertility treatments that their pregnancy isn't natural because they needed assistance, that's ridiculous. So shouldn't the same consideration be given to women that need to have a c-section for medical reasons? I think using the term natural could, potentially, make women who had to have a c-section feel like the term is being used as a superior connotation.
So basically, I just think that phrase shouldn't be used at all.
I agree with this 100%. It is a very insensitive term and I totally see how it could be hurtful and offensive to those in need of c sections or inductions for medical reasons. And even if it is unintended, there is something 'holier than thou' and judgemental about the phrase natural birth. I do think that the terms are most often pointedly used to refer to medicated births with an epidural vs those that are medication free, implying that one is better than the other but where do you draw the line? If forceps are used but no medication, is that unnatural? If your midwife has to use the Gaskin method because of shoulder dystocia but no medication is used, is that unnatural? Women have been helping each other during labor and childbirth for thousands of years, "intervening" when necessary for the health and safety of the mother and the baby. There is nothing unnatural about it.
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
I agree with you 100%. But that's also doesn't seem to be what happens. My point is the problem's not the adjectives. The problem is the perspective of the adjectives.
There wouldn't be different perspectives if the adjectives didn't exist. It would just be known as simply birth and the perspective wouldn't leave women feeling less than another or greater than another all bc of what their bodies and/or mentalities were capable of doing/allowing.
I've had people a few times, after I tell them I'm going to a birth center, ask if I'm having a "natural" birth. I try to respond with "well, I'm attempting an unmedicated birth". I could go off about how technically it isn't natural to have your baby plucked out of your uterus because that isn't the way nature designed birth, but honestly that's not the point. No birth is BETTER than any other, so if it bothers people to hear someone say "natural birth" I'd rather be kind and refer to my birth choice as "unmedicated".
My grandmother gave birth in a literal dirt-floored hut all alone without even a midwife, so to me that's a "natural birth" and, like, no thanks. We have hospitals now, so I'm gonna do that.
@JessicaB0627 I guess I've never seen/ heard someone tell others their birth was "unnatural." I get that is the opposite of natural but I also think it's a stretch to assume that when a person describes one birth as natural they're referring to any other births as unnatural and negative. Sometimes I think in trying to be "sensitive" to one side of things we shut down and shut up the other side. I'm not naive to our need to be sensitive with our words but I also don't think we need to over think facts and the definition of words to spare sensitive feelings.
I've always been told I had an unnatural birth when being compared to someone who had a vaginal birth. Usually I get the flit of the hand and the "Oh but you had an unnatural birth..." IMO I think it's more close minded and elitist to think using the adjectives is important to bring out the "facts" of the way someone gave birth. It's like I originally asked Who cares? Why is it important?
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Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
I agree with you 100%. But that's also doesn't seem to be what happens. My point is the problem's not the adjectives. The problem is the perspective of the adjectives.
There wouldn't be different perspectives if the adjectives didn't exist. It would just be known as simply birth and the perspective wouldn't leave women feeling less than another or greater than another all bc of what their bodies and/or mentalities were capable of doing/allowing.
I've had people a few times, after I tell them I'm going to a birth center, ask if I'm having a "natural" birth. I try to respond with "well, I'm attempting an unmedicated birth". I could go off about how technically it isn't natural to have your baby plucked out of your uterus because that isn't the way nature designed birth, but honestly that's not the point. No birth is BETTER than any other, so if it bothers people to hear someone say "natural birth" I'd rather be kind and refer to my birth choice as "unmedicated".
I think that's your opinion not necessarily fact. But that's my point, why is it important to say the adjectives in stead of just stating that you're giving birth? I wouldn't have thought it was natural for my baby to die in my half of a uterus while knowing I could have her "plucked out of my uterus" and have her survive and be healthy. If you want to get down to technicalities it was a natural decision for me to save my child's life by having a c section..Therefore, to me I had a natural birth for my situation and my body.
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Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
I agree with you 100%. But that's also doesn't seem to be what happens. My point is the problem's not the adjectives. The problem is the perspective of the adjectives.
There wouldn't be different perspectives if the adjectives didn't exist. It would just be known as simply birth and the perspective wouldn't leave women feeling less than another or greater than another all bc of what their bodies and/or mentalities were capable of doing/allowing.
This is what I was getting at. If the term 'natural' was never used, then we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.
Ross is consistently selfish, never thinks about how his actions affect others, and is always grasping for the next thing/woman. He's a status whore and a snob, and has no self awareness whatsoever--If DH wants to annoy me all he has to do is say "WE WERE ON A BREAK!" and I'm instantly incensed.
Bad things happen to him because he's a bad person, which is why his "Why do bad things happen to good people!?!?" exclamation is so funny--because he is patently not a good person. Funny to watch? Sure. To a point. But making him seem worthy of someone like Rachel, who is constantly trying to improve herself and seems to genuinely care about other people? Nope.
I think the term "natural" is probably used because people dont want to say vaginal. I like making people feel uncomfortable lol. Every time someone starts to ask if im trying a natural delivery with this one (i had a csect for no one) i love to say yep im trying for a vaginal delivery. That makes them squirm.
If anyone ever said my first delivery was unnatural, id go psyco on them. Fortunately no one has been that stupid
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I think there is a difference between saying "natural" versus "unmedicated." Not that I really know this but I assume women in the 1600's and earlier (or later), weren't all able to have vaginal births and had to have a c-section (or whatever it was called at that point). So really, it's not about "natural" versus "unnatural," it's about doing what is best for mom and the baby and letting it go. No one is better than anyone else just because they have an epidural or if they choose not to. Or if they HAVE to have a c-section versus an emergency c-section. I wish we could let this terminology go and let us deliver our babies how it is best for us and stop using these words related to birth. Birth is natural, no matter how it happens. I would never dream of telling a woman who used IVF or other methods to get pregnant that her child isn't "natural," so why in the world would we tell a woman that her birth isn't "natural?"
Idk why this even has to be a topic of discussion--I mean, I see why in this forum, but real life? ALSO & I don't mean this as a knock on FTMs, but sometimes I find they are the ones who have that holier than thou attitude about a "natural" birth...until they go into labor. Not necessarily anyone here, but I've seen it way too many times. I'd just be careful throwing these terms around and then having to eat your words later.
@kami09I remember wanting an unmedicated vaginal birth with DD1. It became impossible for my body and DD. I remember when my water broke and back labor started, looking at DH and telling him I was out of my Fing mind to think I could do it without medication. It's all fun and games until it's reality.
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I just wanted to say that using the term "plucked" from the uterus and saying that is not how nature intended to be born really upset me @JoMunson
My son was not plucked out like a piece of fruit and I believe he and I were meant to be alive so a CS was the way he was supposed to be born. April is CS awareness month so I think now is a great time to remember that there is so much guilt associated with CS that unnecessarily labeling it as "unnatural" is just adding insult to injury.
I just wanted to say that using the term "plucked" from the uterus and saying that is not how nature intended to be born really upset me @JoMunson
My son was not plucked out like a piece of fruit and I believe he and I were meant to be alive so a CS was the way he was supposed to be born. April is CS awareness month so I think now is a great time to remember that there is so much guilt associated with CS that unnecessarily labeling it as "unnatural" is just adding insult to injury.
And the worst thing about this entire discussion is the fact that some women actually feel guilt about their method of having their children. If you knew that using a phrase could potentially exacerbate these feelings for ANYONE, why is it even a discussion? Healthy baby and healthy mom is all that matters!
The terminology of "natural" childbirth is problematic not because it implies that medicated or non-vaginal delivery is unnatural, but because it presumes that there *is* such a thing as "natural."
Nothing is "natural."
Everything is in some way conditioned by society/culture. Our bodies might be doing stuff we're not aware of, but the ways our environment affects those processes and the way we process them once they are recognized is all conditioned and influenced by environmental factors that are created by humans and our cultures. We are all cyborgs--mash-ups of biology and technology--from the time we're conceived until (and beyond) the time we die.
To stick with the example of pregnancy and childbirth: our diets are dependent on our culture/society/infrastructure/constructed environments--they are not "natural" (taking pre-natal vitamins is not "natural," nor is having access to all the nutrients contained in them--what regional ecosystem provides them all?); our medical care leading up to childbirth is likewise not "natural"; our L&D rooms are not "natural"--climate controlled to a temperature and humidity level we have allowed ourselves to become accustomed to, for one thing; our perception of the pain we feel (because we know it's supposed to be "beautiful" and "meaningful") is not "natural"--look at pain perception studies: the same injuries register pain differently depending on context (bar fight, car accident, athletic contest, childbirth, cancer).
And, to de-naturalize this all further, opting for "natural" childbirth in a context where there are alternatives is a totally different beast than simply "giving birth" and not having any choices about how that's going to go. It constructs the "natural" in a very un-"natural" way. Hence the hierarchy of values placed on how we give birth, by us and by our peers and doctors and families and the media, which is all another way that society constructs us to restrain and control us--despite seeming all mother-goddessy, the value placed on "natural" childbirth is a part of the patriarchy.
Privileging the "natural" gives us as a society false and dangerous impressions of normalcy and self-sufficiency, and if you want to go drug-free in L&D to see if you can handle the pain or because you want to be fully conscious and fully feeling during the experience or don't want those particular drugs in your body or whatever, have at it. Just don't think it's in any way "natural."
I think calling an unmedicated birth a natural birth is on par with calling un-dyed hair "natural." It makes sense, and as long as people don't act like assholes about one being better than the other, it doesn't really matter. And honestly, I went on my hospital tour last night, and with all the conveniences/equipment/staff they provide, pretty much no part of the process seems "natural" to me (does nature have a video-taping policy for my birthing environment??), but I'll gladly take it over @Merciel 's grandma's situation any day.
I've discovered one huge downside to the unmedicated route though - your child will never live it down! My mom has been telling me my entire life how painful and difficult my birth was ("your head was supposed to be the worst part, but your shoulders were HUGE!"). Now that I'm prepping for birth, I asked for more details, and found out that she had no pain meds or epi whatsoever. So yeah, it was a little more uncomfortable than my older sister's birth, where she had an epidural. Doesn't mean you have to talk about my massive shoulders for the rest of my life!
My UO is I'm sick of everytime someone gets shot by a cop there just has to be a BLM protest. I am NOT in anyway saying that there aren't dirty cops out there. I'm NOT denying the existence of racism. Those things do exist, but I do not believe they are involved in every incident where someone gets shot by a cop But it just seems like every time without fail there is a protest against the police for doing their jobs. There was a trending story in my FB newsfeed about a 16 year old that was already a suspect in another shooting, who pointed his gun at a cop and got shot. Does every death by cop have to be about race? I mean can't people just accept that just maybe your so called little angel wasn't an angel at all and was an actual criminal? I mean if you are stupid enough to point a gun at a cop, then you should expect to be shot. #sorrynotsorry
I just wanted to say that using the term "plucked" from the uterus and saying that is not how nature intended to be born really upset me @JoMunson
My son was not plucked out like a piece of fruit and I believe he and I were meant to be alive so a CS was the way he was supposed to be born. April is CS awareness month so I think now is a great time to remember that there is so much guilt associated with CS that unnecessarily labeling it as "unnatural" is just adding insult to injury.
Didn't mean to insult you- I think your birth is just as amazing as anyone else's.
Re: UO Thursday 4/14
Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
Several MCs
DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
Several MCs
DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
I do love them all but Chandler was the worst one if you ask me. He basically only communicated in offensive one liners that were rarely funny.
Not a fan of Frasier though. I never understood how this blue collar New Yorker type dad raised two snobby, elitist sons with the most annoying way of speaking.
In current TV, I HATE Big Bang theory with a passion. It is not at all funny and kind of makes fun of people on the spectrum. I do not understand how anyone could like it.
My UO (at least maybe on this board) is that I think epidurals are swell, at least as friends and my nurse mom have described them.
@kami09 Ugh, I forgot about that! I was more of a Niles fan anyway. :P Though it has been a long time since I've watched that show...
I think there's a pseudo war against moms who choose an epidural. I say pseudo because the only ones fighting the war are those moms who chose an epidural.
Just my guess. But it feels like there are more moms who feel the need to defend their choice to have an epidural then there are mom's speaking out against them. Because I choose a natural birth doesn't mean I think less of you because your choice is different. Why is that the assumption?
And yes. I said natural birth. Natural means with out mans augmentation. Unmedicated is natural. If you choose to or have to give birth with the assistance of medication, surgery, vacuum, etc. your birth was/ is not natural. This does not make you less of a mom or your birth experience less than any other. It only means you used medical interventions to bring your child into the world. And that's ok.
DD: 05/14/16
ok I love chandler too. Hated Monica. She grated on every nerve I have. To rank them
1- rachel
2- ross
3- chandler
4- joey
5- pheobe
6- Monica
Also...who cares how you name your birth method? You gave birth. Period. It's all the same. We all have a baby in our stomachs...Sooner (much sooner) than later we won't bc we are giving birth. Why does everything have to have an adjective to generate superiority, strength, etc?? It's just birth. Not unnatural, natural, medicated, whatever. BIRTH.
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DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
ETA: after reading other responses, I agree that Unmedicated is a better and more sensitive term than natural.
And amen to the last part.
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Just thinking of the theme song makes me happy.
So basically, I just think that phrase shouldn't be used at all.
I am planning on no epidural but in all honestly I don't know if I will be able to cope. My OB keeps saying "Good!" with a huge smile every time she asks if I am planning to have one and I say no. Her enthusiasm annoys me because it makes me feel like if I have to get one then she will be disappointed or something. I have some family members that feel the need to point out that they didn't have one. DH is also against the epi and if I am going to be honest here . . . to hell with him if he gives me a hard time if I decide I need one. I think I have a low pain threshold but aside from Kidney Stones I have nothing to base this on. I've never really had anything happen to me...never even broken a bone. I sat on broken glass as a kid and had to get stitches but I don't remember it, I only remember being afraid of it because when I looked in the mirror it looked like I had a huge spider on my butt cheek.
So basically I agree that there is nothing wrong with having an epidural but I can totally understand why some people feel like they have to defend their choice when it seems so many people look at it in such negative way.
DD: 05/14/16
Sometimes I think in trying to be "sensitive" to one side of things we shut down and shut up the other side. I'm not naive to our need to be sensitive with our words but I also don't think we need to over think facts and the definition of words to spare sensitive feelings.
DD: 05/14/16
Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
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DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
Several MCs
DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
Several MCs
DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)
Bad things happen to him because he's a bad person, which is why his "Why do bad things happen to good people!?!?" exclamation is so funny--because he is patently not a good person. Funny to watch? Sure. To a point. But making him seem worthy of someone like Rachel, who is constantly trying to improve herself and seems to genuinely care about other people? Nope.
Team anyone but Ross FTW!
I like making people feel uncomfortable lol. Every time someone starts to ask if im trying a natural delivery with this one (i had a csect for no one) i love to say yep im trying for a vaginal delivery. That makes them squirm.
If anyone ever said my first delivery was unnatural, id go psyco on them. Fortunately no one has been that stupid
Seriously.
Been married since 2009.
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My son was not plucked out like a piece of fruit and I believe he and I were meant to be alive so a CS was the way he was supposed to be born. April is CS awareness month so I think now is a great time to remember that there is so much guilt associated with CS that unnecessarily labeling it as "unnatural" is just adding insult to injury.
Nothing is "natural."
Everything is in some way conditioned by society/culture. Our bodies might be doing stuff we're not aware of, but the ways our environment affects those processes and the way we process them once they are recognized is all conditioned and influenced by environmental factors that are created by humans and our cultures. We are all cyborgs--mash-ups of biology and technology--from the time we're conceived until (and beyond) the time we die.
To stick with the example of pregnancy and childbirth: our diets are dependent on our culture/society/infrastructure/constructed environments--they are not "natural" (taking pre-natal vitamins is not "natural," nor is having access to all the nutrients contained in them--what regional ecosystem provides them all?); our medical care leading up to childbirth is likewise not "natural"; our L&D rooms are not "natural"--climate controlled to a temperature and humidity level we have allowed ourselves to become accustomed to, for one thing; our perception of the pain we feel (because we know it's supposed to be "beautiful" and "meaningful") is not "natural"--look at pain perception studies: the same injuries register pain differently depending on context (bar fight, car accident, athletic contest, childbirth, cancer).
And, to de-naturalize this all further, opting for "natural" childbirth in a context where there are alternatives is a totally different beast than simply "giving birth" and not having any choices about how that's going to go. It constructs the "natural" in a very un-"natural" way. Hence the hierarchy of values placed on how we give birth, by us and by our peers and doctors and families and the media, which is all another way that society constructs us to restrain and control us--despite seeming all mother-goddessy, the value placed on "natural" childbirth is a part of the patriarchy.
Privileging the "natural" gives us as a society false and dangerous impressions of normalcy and self-sufficiency, and if you want to go drug-free in L&D to see if you can handle the pain or because you want to be fully conscious and fully feeling during the experience or don't want those particular drugs in your body or whatever, have at it. Just don't think it's in any way "natural."
I've discovered one huge downside to the unmedicated route though - your child will never live it down! My mom has been telling me my entire life how painful and difficult my birth was ("your head was supposed to be the worst part, but your shoulders were HUGE!"). Now that I'm prepping for birth, I asked for more details, and found out that she had no pain meds or epi whatsoever. So yeah, it was a little more uncomfortable than my older sister's birth, where she had an epidural. Doesn't mean you have to talk about my massive shoulders for the rest of my life!
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- EDD: 05/25/2016
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Been married since 2009.
Unicornuate Uterus (yes I menstruate glitter)
Several MCs
DD born 2013 (our miracle "you can't have babies" baby!)