May 2016 Moms

Rant: Husbands can be such asses! (Or is it me?)

So the birth plan thread is going around and I've been reading it. I haven't started mine yet but recalled a section in my little booklet my OB gave that mentions a few of the things you ladies are talking about that I am clueless about. It got me thinking "what about the stuff not mentioned in the booklet?"

So MH and I are sitting around talking about how many days I will stay at the Birthcare Centre and I say "I need to remember to ask the Doc about if I call her or the hospital first. I was also wondering if they have the same sort of options like imitate skin to skin and things like that in NZ like they do in the US" he isnt listening and says "you can find all that out at the birth centre since you will be there for a few days!"  So I explain that I'm talking about the actual birth and he goes on about how they cut the cord, take the baby and wash it first and that's just how it's done. ( his last kid was born 17 years ago mind you... I'm sure things have changed) so I said " that's another thing, they give the option of delayed cord clamping as well".  

He lost it.  LOST IT! I don't even know why!  He went on a damn rant! " instead of asking me these things why don't you call the hospital and find out and then bring it up! None of this stuff is even important!!"  So like a big baby I told him it was to me and I was just trying to have a discussion and that I wouldn't bother him with any more conversations and I stormed off.  

No no I don't normally tantrum out of a room like that... He usually is the storm off type while I stay calm but GRRRRR I just feel so annoyed right now!!

Anyone else having anger issues like this? How do you deal with it? I feel like throwing some dishes around just to hear smashy noises! 
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  • Yes. I've had a shorter fuse/tolerance lately. DH thinks all the details are boring or not his concern bc he's just there to do what I need him to do. I think it may be a guy thing. Although try to keep in mind it probably doesn't mean he doesn't care though. In the moment for me I don't feel that way. I'm sorry. It's frustrating at this stage of pg and getting ready for everything. The ins and outs seem overwhelming and of course we go to the person who is sharing this with us just to get less than expected reactions. Hugs.
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  • wamam027wamam027 member
    edited March 2016
    We found out recently that we were given a bunch of empty promises by the military in regards to my husband being able to make the birth and now the likelihood is looking slim to none. Since DH was REALLY looking forward to being here for the birth (because he leaves for 8 months just a few short weeks after my due date) he's kind of just shut down on involvement in these decisions and talking about the birth plan. I understand he has a reason, if he talks with me and makes these decisions with me that just shoves in his face that he likely won't get to be a part of the process. He's told me to discuss these things with my mother instead since she will be his stand in (if she can make it here in time). Everything involved in the birth and all of these initial decisions is A LOT to process for anyone, I think men just assume it's easier for us since it's our body even though it's not at all easier for us. Have you guys taken any classes about what to expect? Before my husband started shutting down do to all this, he came to my birthing classes with me where our instructor was talking about interventions and the whole process and it was a huge eye opener for DH, he had no idea that this was all involved in having a baby and I think that made him realize why there's so much to talk about and so many decisions to make BEFORE the baby gets here. Hugs to you. 
  • I feel your pain. At first I thought it was just me and my ragging hormones, but my DH has deffinitely been more on edge too.. And who can blame him this is a major life change for the both of us! 
    To add to your rant, my mother was continuously telling me things about birth like MH wasn't allowed to stay the night with me and they would take the baby away as soon as he was born and all this stupid stuff that actually made me cry. I finally decided to ask my doctor and they looked at me like I was insane. "OF COURSE your husband can stay?!?!" So yes... 17 years changes ALOT of things. She also looked at me like I was nuts when I said I wanted to try the birthing ball and said the doctors would never allow it ... Little does she know there is actually one in every room of my hospital. Ugh. Rant over. 
  • I second taking your husband to a birthing class. DH had NO idea all that went into L&D. Since the class, he has become much more supportive and understanding of my birthibg preferences.
  • He probably thinks he has all this experience, but when I talk to my SIL whose youngest in 8...you don't realize how much changes in just a few years!  

    I learned not to talk to my moms about birthing stuff, cause it has been decades.  

    I find my husband is more responsive and in tune when we are talking to a doctor, midwife, doula, lactation consultant or other professional.   I agee about going to a baby class.

    I also try not to go on and on about baby stuff, even though it's on my mind constantly!  

    Sometimes right before a doctor's appointment, I get so nervous and mean to my hubby.  Then I say the most abusive things that abusers say on lifetime movies. "Sometimes wives are just mean, right?" Or "I'm not as mean as some other wives" or the worst one " if you didn't make me so mad, I wouldn't be so mean"
     
    My poor, poor husband.

    If you don't mind me asking, what's the age difference between your husband and you? Not judging or anything, I have old husband syndrome too lol...he's like 13 years older.

     Just asking cause I'm nosey and I'm home alone with my pee jug (24 hour urine test,blah)

  • I second taking your husband to a birthing class. DH had NO idea all that went into L&D. Since the class, he has become much more supportive and understanding of my birthibg preferences.
    Definitely. My husband wasn't exactly indifferent but more like "Whatever you want is fine" type thing. Now we've actually discussed and shares opinions and both agree what we want on the birth plan. 
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  • dshannahdshannah member
    edited March 2016
    Another option (in addition to or instead of talking to the doctor and taking a class) is to go on a tour of the maternity ward where you'll be delivering. They walk you through every stage of pre-labor and labor and show you what your options are at every step of the way, and tell you what their standard protocols are snd how those can be modified.

    It takes an hour, max, and your husband should be fine with it because it mimics D-Day: You get to the hospital in the way you plan to get there on the day, they show you where you'll be admitted, and then they take you up. And it also shows you what the visiting situation looks like.

    So you can be all sneaky, pretending to show DH "just what he needs to know" (i.e. parking and paperwork and visiting hours and how to get from place to place inside the hospital during off-hours) and then he'll see the whole shebang and realize just how much there really is to it and how many decisions they leave up to you.
  • This will be my first baby while it will be my husbands 6th. There is a 16 year age difference between us. His youngest just turned 7; however the last 4 were all via C-section and his first born, which was 20 years ago was the only vaginal. Needless to say he's had experience, but not exactly when it comes to vaginal birth considering how long ago it was and how advanced things have become. DH didn't exactly want to do a hospital tour, but didn't refuse either, and when it was all said and done he was super happy he went and was overly impressed with not only the hospital but their options and procedures. He and I have gone through similar things, he thinks he knows all just because he's had children previously and tends to tune me out when I'm trying to talk things out, but once things calm down I remind him that he wasn't able to be an active parent for his other children like he will be for this one and he's missed out on a lot with his other children so while he may know the basics there's a lot more to is (his job previously kept him away from home the majority of the time so he saw the children briefly - just a quick background). He's come around, slowly, to acknowledging that while he might be a good reference for certain aspects he still has a lot to learn. Hopefully your hubby will come around too.



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  • I know that for MH, he is a total "fixer" and I can't mention anything to him unless I want to hear his solution. So if I am just wondering about things, I usually have to preface it by saying "Just thinking out loud here. I want to work this out with you, but we don't need a solution right now." If I start going on about things he doesn't feel comfortable with, I can see him squirming because he loves to have an answer and a solution and be done with it. He HATES when the same issue is brought up more than once. So basically if we have decided on x, that's that. What I have found helpful is giving him resources to find information on his own so when I do need to talk to him, he feels like he has some frame of reference. MH is not a great reader (he has dyslexia and other learning disabilities) so I usually send him videos on Youtube about childcare and different birthing options. I sent him one video about family centered or gentle CS and I think it really helped him understand how many different options we have, even if it seems like we are "just" having a RCS.

    It does make me super frustrated when it feels like MH and I are speaking a different language or are just not on the same page. I have totally tantrumed as well so don't feel bad about that, OP. My best advice is the same as PPs; give him some resources either a birthing class, tour of the maternity floor, or books/articles. The more he knows, the less helpless he may feel and the less likely he will lash out and get frustrated. Give yourselves some cooling off time and approach the topic later with cooler heads.

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  • Thanks for all the helpful input. After about 3 hours of not talking to each other we both kinda cooled off and this morning he calmly suggested I make a list of things to ask the OB today at the appointment. I didn't mention this but when he ranted last night he got up and started walking around and waving his arms in the air like a weirdo . . . I may or may not have told him he was acting like a psycho so I'm just glad he was able to approach the subject again calmly. :P  

    Seems like a lot of ladies have older husbands around here. I didn't know this was a thing.  We have a 20 year gap. I am 35 and MH is 55.

    I was looking at the hospital's website and it suggested to take a tour. When I clicked the tour link for more info it brought me to the virtual tour video. There was no mention of an actual tour.  I guess I'll call and see if they do them.  MH doesn't have time for birthing classes unfortunately. The classes are free which is nice but they all occur during MH's work hours and he is saving his days off for when baby arrives and for OB appointments. Hopefully my OB can have the same effect when talking about all of this stuff but I'm not too sure. 
  • Kurrant said:
    So the birth plan thread is going around and I've been reading it. I haven't started mine yet but recalled a section in my little booklet my OB gave that mentions a few of the things you ladies are talking about that I am clueless about. It got me thinking "what about the stuff not mentioned in the booklet?"

    So MH and I are sitting around talking about how many days I will stay at the Birthcare Centre and I say "I need to remember to ask the Doc about if I call her or the hospital first. I was also wondering if they have the same sort of options like imitate skin to skin and things like that in NZ like they do in the US" he isnt listening and says "you can find all that out at the birth centre since you will be there for a few days!"  So I explain that I'm talking about the actual birth and he goes on about how they cut the cord, take the baby and wash it first and that's just how it's done. ( his last kid was born 17 years ago mind you... I'm sure things have changed) so I said " that's another thing, they give the option of delayed cord clamping as well".  

    He lost it.  LOST IT! I don't even know why!  He went on a damn rant! " instead of asking me these things why don't you call the hospital and find out and then bring it up! None of this stuff is even important!!"  So like a big baby I told him it was to me and I was just trying to have a discussion and that I wouldn't bother him with any more conversations and I stormed off.  

    No no I don't normally tantrum out of a room like that... He usually is the storm off type while I stay calm but GRRRRR I just feel so annoyed right now!!

    Anyone else having anger issues like this? How do you deal with it? I feel like throwing some dishes around just to hear smashy noises! 
    Haven't read all the replies and sorry I cant help with hubby, apart to say that for men it just doesn't feel real and they usually don't care about the details until much closer to the date. 

    As the other resident kiwi I can reassure you that things here are actually (generally) better than the states as far as interventions etc go. Things like skin to skin, not bathing for a couple of days, delayed cord clamping, baby staying with mum are all normal here. I know that most hospitals avoid interventions as much as possible. With things like induction, they try prostoglandins before moving to pictocin etc, so take things more gently and slowly. I had a c-sect with my first, and VBAC is the norm, not the exception.

    Also most hospitals and I'm sure all birthing centers are "Baby Friendly" which you can read about here: https://www.babyfriendly.org.nz/. The hospital I work at just recently went through certification and I tell you its not easy!

    I would still ask the questions to ease your mind, and hope it all goes well!
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  • @kurrant our hospital offered tours and classes on weekends. Maybe call to see if yours offers that so it doesn't conflict during your husbands work schedule, which I'm just assuming is M-F.



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  • My friend recommend I read a book to help with natural birthing pain techniques. As I read I realised hubby really needs to read it too in order to be able to help me through and understand what I'm trying to achieve. He's generally super supportive but was resistant to reading it. I had to ask multiple times and remind him for weeks...BUT then he read it and everything changed. He started coming up with the ideas that would suit me best and talking about options because he realised it was important to me. He also knows that when I panic I shut down so he will have to help keep me focused. He actually remembered way more from it than I did and I have to say I was totally touched by the ultimate effort he put into it. Made me feel like we're a team.

    Ps my hubby is older too, by 9 years but this is our first. 

    And just to add, even though I said something nice about him while everyone else was kinda ranting, I'd like to say that I still want to kill
    him on most days lately :D 
  • @avidkeo Thanks for all the info.  I really wasn't aware of some things and it's just been so long for DH that he thought he knew exactly what would happen but he was pretty wrong.  I saw my OB yesterday (DH insisted I go with the OB vs the free midwife) and when I asked about delayed cord clamping I felt like a big doofus. She went on to tell me that a lot of the things people need to ask for in the US are standard here especially if you use an OB. It really put me at ease knowing that all of the things I was concerned I might be missing won't be an issue. :)

    The only thing that she said that freaked me out was when she mentioned that 80% of her FTM patients go for the epidural because they can't deal even when they say they don't want it initially. I was in that boat but now I am frightened . . . 


  • Kurrant said:
    @avidkeo Thanks for all the info.  I really wasn't aware of some things and it's just been so long for DH that he thought he knew exactly what would happen but he was pretty wrong.  I saw my OB yesterday (DH insisted I go with the OB vs the free midwife) and when I asked about delayed cord clamping I felt like a big doofus. She went on to tell me that a lot of the things people need to ask for in the US are standard here especially if you use an OB. It really put me at ease knowing that all of the things I was concerned I might be missing won't be an issue. :)

    The only thing that she said that freaked me out was when she mentioned that 80% of her FTM patients go for the epidural because they can't deal even when they say they don't want it initially. I was in that boat but now I am frightened . . . 


    Try not to worry about the epidural. I can see how that statistic would frighten you, but at the end of the day its just an option. You should be able to have Nox and thats supposed to be a big help.
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  • avidkeo said:
    Kurrant said:
    So the birth plan thread is going around and I've been reading it. I haven't started mine yet but recalled a section in my little booklet my OB gave that mentions a few of the things you ladies are talking about that I am clueless about. It got me thinking "what about the stuff not mentioned in the booklet?"

    So MH and I are sitting around talking about how many days I will stay at the Birthcare Centre and I say "I need to remember to ask the Doc about if I call her or the hospital first. I was also wondering if they have the same sort of options like imitate skin to skin and things like that in NZ like they do in the US" he isnt listening and says "you can find all that out at the birth centre since you will be there for a few days!"  So I explain that I'm talking about the actual birth and he goes on about how they cut the cord, take the baby and wash it first and that's just how it's done. ( his last kid was born 17 years ago mind you... I'm sure things have changed) so I said " that's another thing, they give the option of delayed cord clamping as well".  

    He lost it.  LOST IT! I don't even know why!  He went on a damn rant! " instead of asking me these things why don't you call the hospital and find out and then bring it up! None of this stuff is even important!!"  So like a big baby I told him it was to me and I was just trying to have a discussion and that I wouldn't bother him with any more conversations and I stormed off.  

    No no I don't normally tantrum out of a room like that... He usually is the storm off type while I stay calm but GRRRRR I just feel so annoyed right now!!

    Anyone else having anger issues like this? How do you deal with it? I feel like throwing some dishes around just to hear smashy noises! 
    Haven't read all the replies and sorry I cant help with hubby, apart to say that for men it just doesn't feel real and they usually don't care about the details until much closer to the date. 

    As the other resident kiwi I can reassure you that things here are actually (generally) better than the states as far as interventions etc go. Things like skin to skin, not bathing for a couple of days, delayed cord clamping, baby staying with mum are all normal here. I know that most hospitals avoid interventions as much as possible. With things like induction, they try prostoglandins before moving to pictocin etc, so take things more gently and slowly. I had a c-sect with my first, and VBAC is the norm, not the exception.

    Also most hospitals and I'm sure all birthing centers are "Baby Friendly" which you can read about here: https://www.babyfriendly.org.nz/. The hospital I work at just recently went through certification and I tell you its not easy!

    I would still ask the questions to ease your mind, and hope it all goes well!
    That's it!  I'm moving to New Zealand.  
  • I know this has been said by others but I completely agree that the birthing classes have been helping my husband be more engaged in the pregnancy and preparing for labor. My guy is the sensitive type and I know on a certain level he wishes he was carrying our child instead of me. He's told me that it's hard because he feels left out of everything because it happens all to us women. The birthing classes has helped with this so much. He listens very carefully to everything we learn and is excited to be a crucial part of our labor and bringing LO into this world! 

    FYI, we're taking a natural child birth class and it seems to involve the men very much in being coaches/support to women during labor. I'm very thankful for this class and how it's helped my husband and I.
  • avidkeo said:
    avidkeo said:
    Kurrant said:
    So the birth plan thread is going around and I've been reading it. I haven't started mine yet but recalled a section in my little booklet my OB gave that mentions a few of the things you ladies are talking about that I am clueless about. It got me thinking "what about the stuff not mentioned in the booklet?"

    So MH and I are sitting around talking about how many days I will stay at the Birthcare Centre and I say "I need to remember to ask the Doc about if I call her or the hospital first. I was also wondering if they have the same sort of options like imitate skin to skin and things like that in NZ like they do in the US" he isnt listening and says "you can find all that out at the birth centre since you will be there for a few days!"  So I explain that I'm talking about the actual birth and he goes on about how they cut the cord, take the baby and wash it first and that's just how it's done. ( his last kid was born 17 years ago mind you... I'm sure things have changed) so I said " that's another thing, they give the option of delayed cord clamping as well".  

    He lost it.  LOST IT! I don't even know why!  He went on a damn rant! " instead of asking me these things why don't you call the hospital and find out and then bring it up! None of this stuff is even important!!"  So like a big baby I told him it was to me and I was just trying to have a discussion and that I wouldn't bother him with any more conversations and I stormed off.  

    No no I don't normally tantrum out of a room like that... He usually is the storm off type while I stay calm but GRRRRR I just feel so annoyed right now!!

    Anyone else having anger issues like this? How do you deal with it? I feel like throwing some dishes around just to hear smashy noises! 
    Haven't read all the replies and sorry I cant help with hubby, apart to say that for men it just doesn't feel real and they usually don't care about the details until much closer to the date. 

    As the other resident kiwi I can reassure you that things here are actually (generally) better than the states as far as interventions etc go. Things like skin to skin, not bathing for a couple of days, delayed cord clamping, baby staying with mum are all normal here. I know that most hospitals avoid interventions as much as possible. With things like induction, they try prostoglandins before moving to pictocin etc, so take things more gently and slowly. I had a c-sect with my first, and VBAC is the norm, not the exception.

    Also most hospitals and I'm sure all birthing centers are "Baby Friendly" which you can read about here: https://www.babyfriendly.org.nz/. The hospital I work at just recently went through certification and I tell you its not easy!

    I would still ask the questions to ease your mind, and hope it all goes well!
    That's it!  I'm moving to New Zealand.  
    If trump gets in, probably a good option!
    Hah, funny thing is MH and I have been going back and forth about the idea of moving to the USA. I personally would rather stay in NZ where as he sees the US as the land of product availability and convenience. The only real reason I have been considering it is because I am half Armenian and would love for my kids to grow up with an Armenian family nearby. However; we both agree that if Trump gets voted in we will put any decision making on hold for 4-8 years   :p
  • Kurrant said:
    avidkeo said:
    avidkeo said:
    Kurrant said:
    So the birth plan thread is going around and I've been reading it. I haven't started mine yet but recalled a section in my little booklet my OB gave that mentions a few of the things you ladies are talking about that I am clueless about. It got me thinking "what about the stuff not mentioned in the booklet?"

    So MH and I are sitting around talking about how many days I will stay at the Birthcare Centre and I say "I need to remember to ask the Doc about if I call her or the hospital first. I was also wondering if they have the same sort of options like imitate skin to skin and things like that in NZ like they do in the US" he isnt listening and says "you can find all that out at the birth centre since you will be there for a few days!"  So I explain that I'm talking about the actual birth and he goes on about how they cut the cord, take the baby and wash it first and that's just how it's done. ( his last kid was born 17 years ago mind you... I'm sure things have changed) so I said " that's another thing, they give the option of delayed cord clamping as well".  

    He lost it.  LOST IT! I don't even know why!  He went on a damn rant! " instead of asking me these things why don't you call the hospital and find out and then bring it up! None of this stuff is even important!!"  So like a big baby I told him it was to me and I was just trying to have a discussion and that I wouldn't bother him with any more conversations and I stormed off.  

    No no I don't normally tantrum out of a room like that... He usually is the storm off type while I stay calm but GRRRRR I just feel so annoyed right now!!

    Anyone else having anger issues like this? How do you deal with it? I feel like throwing some dishes around just to hear smashy noises! 
    Haven't read all the replies and sorry I cant help with hubby, apart to say that for men it just doesn't feel real and they usually don't care about the details until much closer to the date. 

    As the other resident kiwi I can reassure you that things here are actually (generally) better than the states as far as interventions etc go. Things like skin to skin, not bathing for a couple of days, delayed cord clamping, baby staying with mum are all normal here. I know that most hospitals avoid interventions as much as possible. With things like induction, they try prostoglandins before moving to pictocin etc, so take things more gently and slowly. I had a c-sect with my first, and VBAC is the norm, not the exception.

    Also most hospitals and I'm sure all birthing centers are "Baby Friendly" which you can read about here: https://www.babyfriendly.org.nz/. The hospital I work at just recently went through certification and I tell you its not easy!

    I would still ask the questions to ease your mind, and hope it all goes well!
    That's it!  I'm moving to New Zealand.  
    If trump gets in, probably a good option!
    Hah, funny thing is MH and I have been going back and forth about the idea of moving to the USA. I personally would rather stay in NZ where as he sees the US as the land of product availability and convenience. The only real reason I have been considering it is because I am half Armenian and would love for my kids to grow up with an Armenian family nearby. However; we both agree that if Trump gets voted in we will put any decision making on hold for 4-8 years   :p
    Go for Canada instead. Granted this place has its own issues but I describe it like the being the good parts of the US with some of the good parts of Australia (like free health care). Plus we're so close to the states it's very convenient! 
  • My sister spent a semester abroad in Melbourne and LOVED it so she is all set to move if Trump gets elected! I figured MH and I would probably relocate to the Great White North and my older sister will probably go to a Spanish speaking country since she is fluent and spent time in Madrid. My mom can come with us as our translator if we want to journey to a French speaking province since she is fluent in French. MH wants us to go to Italy, but while I would love to visit, not sure I could live there for 4-8 (GAHHHH!!) years.


    I clearly have no faith in the people of the USA.


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  • My sister spent a semester abroad in Melbourne and LOVED it so she is all set to move if Trump gets elected! I figured MH and I would probably relocate to the Great White North and my older sister will probably go to a Spanish speaking country since she is fluent and spent time in Madrid. My mom can come with us as our translator if we want to journey to a French speaking province since she is fluent in French. MH wants us to go to Italy, but while I would love to visit, not sure I could live there for 4-8 (GAHHHH!!) years.


    I clearly have no faith in the people of the USA.

    Nor should you.

    And @Kurrant , PLEASE don't even throw the idea of EIGHT years out there.  OMFG I can't even bring myself to think about the potential 4.  Shudder.
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  • Since this is a "husbands can be such asses" thread, can I rant about mine in here? Because I've just about reached a snapping point with him and I really don't want to start a new thread or revive another that wouldn't be an appropriate place to put this. Initially started to add this into the "mood swings from hell" thread, but I think it would fit better here. If it's an issue, I can delete the text and move it elsewhere.

    Disclaimer: DH is not usually a bad guy. He's just really freaking clueless sometimes, and after almost 12 years together, it's not funny or cute anymore. Pregnancy has apparently taken away all of my patience.

    Last night I wasn't feeling so great - I'd been out running errands during the day, and then I came home and folded some clothes and did some other minor tasks around the house. Eventually I stopped to take a break and eat something and watch some Netflix, and went to the fridge to pull out some of the Boston Market I had picked up earlier. DH, who had already finished off the plate that I'd brought home for him, sat by me and put his face next to mine because he was just dyyyyyyying for a bite of my mashed potatoes (which is never just one small bite - half the stuff would have been gone before I got my fork back). I said no, because I wasn't in the mood to share my food and he'd just had a whole plate of his own. Maybe afterwards if there was food leftover on my plate, but I really didn't feel like sharing right then and there. And besides, I really wanted those potatoes for myself. 

    Mostly I really just needed to be left the eff alone. He'd already spent most of the day being ornery just to annoy me (which he thinks is him being cute), and he just. kept. pushing.

    I finally got up and took my plate and drink across the room, and he freaking followed me and continued, which just made me angrier. He kept laughing like it was funny. Finally, after the umpteenth time of me telling him to please leave me alone, I shoved the plate in his hands and told him to take it. I grabbed my drink and walked out and locked myself in the guest room and spent the rest of the night sobbing off and on because I was so frustrated. Normally this stuff wouldn't have bothered me so much (and I would have just let him have the damn potatoes), but I just have not been able to deal with his games throughout this pregnancy.

    What's really making me mad is that when he's having bad days and just needs to watch Netflix or play video games and be left alone, I let him do exactly that. I minimize the amount of talking I need to do with him so that he can brood over whatever's bothering him until he's ready to come out of his shell again. I don't make jokes or try to tease him or make him share his food with me. But God forbid that I ever have days like that. He just has to keep pushing to try to make me laugh or whatever so that I'm in the same mood he is, and then when I finally snap and tell him off, he gets pissy with me. 

    I'm just so done with this behavior that it's not even funny.
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  • Since this is a "husbands can be such asses" thread, can I rant about mine in here? Because I've just about reached a snapping point with him and I really don't want to start a new thread or revive another that wouldn't be an appropriate place to put this. Initially started to add this into the "mood swings from hell" thread, but I think it would fit better here. If it's an issue, I can delete the text and move it elsewhere.

    Disclaimer: DH is not usually a bad guy. He's just really freaking clueless sometimes, and after almost 12 years together, it's not funny or cute anymore. Pregnancy has apparently taken away all of my patience.

    Last night I wasn't feeling so great - I'd been out running errands during the day, and then I came home and folded some clothes and did some other minor tasks around the house. Eventually I stopped to take a break and eat something and watch some Netflix, and went to the fridge to pull out some of the Boston Market I had picked up earlier. DH, who had already finished off the plate that I'd brought home for him, sat by me and put his face next to mine because he was just dyyyyyyying for a bite of my mashed potatoes (which is never just one small bite - half the stuff would have been gone before I got my fork back). I said no, because I wasn't in the mood to share my food and he'd just had a whole plate of his own. Maybe afterwards if there was food leftover on my plate, but I really didn't feel like sharing right then and there. And besides, I really wanted those potatoes for myself. 

    Mostly I really just needed to be left the eff alone. He'd already spent most of the day being ornery just to annoy me (which he thinks is him being cute), and he just. kept. pushing.

    I finally got up and took my plate and drink across the room, and he freaking followed me and continued, which just made me angrier. He kept laughing like it was funny. Finally, after the umpteenth time of me telling him to please leave me alone, I shoved the plate in his hands and told him to take it. I grabbed my drink and walked out and locked myself in the guest room and spent the rest of the night sobbing off and on because I was so frustrated. Normally this stuff wouldn't have bothered me so much (and I would have just let him have the damn potatoes), but I just have not been able to deal with his games throughout this pregnancy.

    What's really making me mad is that when he's having bad days and just needs to watch Netflix or play video games and be left alone, I let him do exactly that. I minimize the amount of talking I need to do with him so that he can brood over whatever's bothering him until he's ready to come out of his shell again. I don't make jokes or try to tease him or make him share his food with me. But God forbid that I ever have days like that. He just has to keep pushing to try to make me laugh or whatever so that I'm in the same mood he is, and then when I finally snap and tell him off, he gets pissy with me. 

    I'm just so done with this behavior that it's not even funny.
    Ugh mine does this too. He gets all "cute" and teasy when I'm in a shit mood but demands to be left alone when it's him. I would have grabbed some mashed potatoes with my hand and smushed it right on his face so I give you credit for your self control....I have no advice because aside from me getting real angry I have no way of making MH take me seriously in those situations. Sorry you had to deal with that.
  • @amberraysofdawn, my DH is sadly a lot like this too. He's always allowed to be in a shitty mood and left alone, but I can never do the same. I have no words of advise, but I agree with @kurrant, you get major props for not shoving those mashed potatoes in his face!



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  • @kurrant @amovin21 Haha, I value mashed potatoes too highly to shove them in someone's face. Even DH's, when he's trying to steal mine. Definitely considered throwing the steamed broccoli and carrots at him, though...
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  • @amberraysofdawn DH does this sometimes too. Last time, I told him there was a difference between boyish charm and man-child, and that , especially when I'm already feeling frayed, I don't need man-child behavior. I was very direct with what I wanted (ice cream, help with the dishes, and to be more or less left alone for about 30 minutes). He was upset at first, but came around.
  • @amberraysofdawn - Running to sob in the guest room all night anytime my husband upsets me is my go-to move lately! Even when it's my fault. I keep trying to explain to him that even if I'm being unreasonable (which you weren't, in your case, but sometimes I might be...), he should try extra hard to not make me cry, because right now there's no such thing as crying just a little bit. It's an all-or-nothing situation.
  • Yeah, my DH seriously thinks that pregnancy is just an excuse for me to whine. He even went so far as to tell me that watching the birth of DS was much more traumatic for him than it could ever have possible have been for me, even if my epidural didn't take and I had to have a pretty serious episiotomy. Planning a home birth this time and I've been trying to remind/encourage him to look into ways to support me and what to expect. I'm pretty sure he's going to be useless for the birth. It's a good thing that once the baby gets here he turns into this amazing, doting father.
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  • I'm mad at mine for going to get ice cream while I was at work for the 6th full day in a row. I'm upset because he knew i wanted to get ice cream when I got done at work. So why not just go get it again? He has gained more weight than me during my nearly 31 weeks and has sleep apnea and is now on strict orders to lose some weight. So eating it in front of him would just be cruel.  
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    @dsmith211 not that it helps you but exactly the same here, hoping some urgency kicks in at some point
    i have put foot down and nursery will be started (yup, started!) next week. I will then be 33 weeks.... 
    Feel like I have tried to be the relaxed pregnant wife but enough is enough!

    he has been pretty good but I am hoping when baby comes that he changes his attitude a little. I have faith in the STMs that say their DH are crap at pregnancy but doting fathers...
  • @amberraysofdawn,
    This sounds like the sort of thing that, now that things are calmer, you can talk to him about. Just pointing out that sometimes you need your space, just like he needs his.  Next time it happens, you can say, "Hey, remember that conversation we had where you agreed to give me space if I needed it?"
  • Ok, I am adding my rant:
    Yesterday I told MH I wasn't feeling very well at church. I was running around, helping with the sound system and recording equipment, gathering the props and visuals from Children's Message, preparing for Joyful Noises Children's Choir rehearsal, all after singing for the service. So as I was coming down from the balcony, I mentioned to MH that I felt a little dizzy and nauseated. He got this terrified look on his face, so I brushed it off and reassured him that I was fine, just tired. He relaxed a little, but I could tell he was still not super convinced. I had him go to my mother's house with my sister while I rehearsed with the kiddos for Easter and was feeling ok. At my mom's, I just kept a happy face, but was still not feeling 100%. I have been so insistent that I am feeling great, I think I might be a bit in denial of some normal pregnancy symptoms. Anyways, we headed out just at my son's naptime and MH was tired so I drove home while both boys slept. I then unloaded the car and put down the seat so we could get the bedframe and box spring for my son's big boy bed. I was pretty active and probably lifted more than I should have, but have been feeling so awesome and am so active, I didn't think much of it. When the guys woke up, we went inside for quick potty run and then went to BJ's. Again, lots of walking around and activity, but nothing I hadn't been doing up until this point. I felt winded a few times, but didn't make a fuss. We had some trouble getting everything to fit in the car, so I climbed in and heaved and pulled the box spring while MH pushed. I felt a little twinge, but NBD.

    We got home and unloaded the stuff we bought and I was just getting my son ready to go out to dinner because I had no desire to cook. As I was getting him on the potty, I felt super dizzy and had to sit down on the floor. I did see little sparkles in front of my eyes and just rested my head back on the wall. Then, felt a super wave of nausea, crawled to the big toilet and threw up. MH heard me and called from the upstairs, "Are you ok?" Obviously, I couldn't answer because I was heaving so he ran downstairs and got our son all set, not looking at me or anything. He had this weird like glazed look and robotically asked if we needed to go to the hospital, but I waved him off so he grumbled about not going out to dinner and then took Renzo into the playroom to clean up. He was yelling at him to put the toys away and the poor little guy was so confused. I sprang up to try to diffuse the situation, but almost fell down and stumbled into the playroom and flopped on the couch. I calmly but sternly told MH that he needs to take a break and calm down and he stormed off while I was in the middle of my sentence. I couldn't sit up or stand without feeling super dizzy so I called my son over to me to give him hugs and reassure him that everything is ok. When MH came back in, he again refused to look at me and just started tossing papers and stuff around like he was tidying up, but it was just totally random. I tried to talk with him and he ignored me and too brightly asked our son if he wanted cereal for dinner. I piped up that they could still go out, but MH ignored me again and just led our son into the kitchen, banging far too many pots and dishes to just be pouring cereal. I asked if MH could please get me some water because I was starting to feel nauseated again and knew I couldn't get to the bathroom or the barrel and he wordlessly got me a cup and kind of slammed it down on the coffee table in front of me. I asked him what was wrong and he exploded "You never tell me what you need! What do you need?! I can't read your frickin mind! Anything I do is wrong anyways so I just have to wait until you tell me what you need but you never do!" I was dumbfounded and said that I just needed to rest for a second and I would be feeling fine again in no time. He burst out "Oh, yeah sure! In the meantime, what am I supposed to do? Do I call someone or leave you alone or sit on the couch with you? If I do, you know I will fall asleep and then you will get mad at me and who is going to get Renzo dinner? Have you thought about any of that?!"

    I started to cry because I was so shocked, but also because I knew what was happening. He is so terrified that I am going to be sick again and I think has been holding his breath, just waiting for the other shoe to drop and just lost it. Poor Renzo was stuck in the middle and crawled on the couch crying and snuggling into me. It was horrible. I sat up, despite the dizziness, and just smiled and calmly reassured both boys that Mama is fine, just sleepy and maybe we should just have a little dinner in and watch a fun movie. My son perked up and ran to the DVD shelf and picked out a Curious George movie while MH huffed back into the kitchen and poured the cereal. He gruffly shouted if I wanted any and I said I was fine. I rested my head back on the arm rest and fell right to sleep. I didn't wake up until almost 4 hours later and the TV was still on, but the DVD was over and I could hear MH snoring loudly upstairs. I slowly got up and only felt a little dizzy and turned off the TV and all the lights, got a quick snack of graham crackers and Gatorade, and stumbled upstairs to just flop into bed. Next thing I know, it is 7:10am and MH gruffly barks that Renzo is all dressed and ready and he is leaving for work. I rushed to get us both out the door in time, was late dropping him off at school, and was late to work. I am still reeling and not feeling like myself, but I hope things just settle down and we can just forget about it by tonight. I have so much to do at work and will hopefully find a moment to take my BP because I am still having a headache and my vision is a little wonky. I can't be sick again, but if I am, I need to know MH is strong enough to handle it. I don't want to worry him or bring back painful memories for him, but I am scared too and, even though I hate to admit it, I need someone to take care of me. 

    PS- just took my BP and it is 128/74. Phew!

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  • edited March 2016
    Since this is a "husbands can be such asses" thread, can I rant about mine in here? Because I've just about reached a snapping point with him and I really don't want to start a new thread or revive another that wouldn't be an appropriate place to put this. Initially started to add this into the "mood swings from hell" thread, but I think it would fit better here. If it's an issue, I can delete the text and move it elsewhere.

    Disclaimer: DH is not usually a bad guy. He's just really freaking clueless sometimes, and after almost 12 years together, it's not funny or cute anymore. Pregnancy has apparently taken away all of my patience.

    Last night I wasn't feeling so great - I'd been out running errands during the day, and then I came home and folded some clothes and did some other minor tasks around the house. Eventually I stopped to take a break and eat something and watch some Netflix, and went to the fridge to pull out some of the Boston Market I had picked up earlier. DH, who had already finished off the plate that I'd brought home for him, sat by me and put his face next to mine because he was just dyyyyyyying for a bite of my mashed potatoes (which is never just one small bite - half the stuff would have been gone before I got my fork back). I said no, because I wasn't in the mood to share my food and he'd just had a whole plate of his own. Maybe afterwards if there was food leftover on my plate, but I really didn't feel like sharing right then and there. And besides, I really wanted those potatoes for myself. 

    Mostly I really just needed to be left the eff alone. He'd already spent most of the day being ornery just to annoy me (which he thinks is him being cute), and he just. kept. pushing.

    I finally got up and took my plate and drink across the room, and he freaking followed me and continued, which just made me angrier. He kept laughing like it was funny. Finally, after the umpteenth time of me telling him to please leave me alone, I shoved the plate in his hands and told him to take it. I grabbed my drink and walked out and locked myself in the guest room and spent the rest of the night sobbing off and on because I was so frustrated. Normally this stuff wouldn't have bothered me so much (and I would have just let him have the damn potatoes), but I just have not been able to deal with his games throughout this pregnancy.

    What's really making me mad is that when he's having bad days and just needs to watch Netflix or play video games and be left alone, I let him do exactly that. I minimize the amount of talking I need to do with him so that he can brood over whatever's bothering him until he's ready to come out of his shell again. I don't make jokes or try to tease him or make him share his food with me. But God forbid that I ever have days like that. He just has to keep pushing to try to make me laugh or whatever so that I'm in the same mood he is, and then when I finally snap and tell him off, he gets pissy with me. 

    I'm just so done with this behavior that it's not even funny.
    I feel your pain! Sometimes I feel like this is such a double standard. My man is super sensitive and needs his own space when he is feeling down or has his mind on something. I always give him his space and let him know I'm here for him whenever he is ready or wants to talk about it. But when I'm feeling the same way (which is very rare, luckily for him) he does not know how to handle it whatsoever. I think part of this stems from his need to fix everything as a man and it being very difficult for him to see me struggling or hurting with something. It's always times like these where he becomes more clingy or tries to be hilarious in hopes it will cheer me up. When this happens I usually snap at him and tell him how I'm really feeling and then he finally stops what he's doing and tries to listen to me or gives me the space I need. Hang in there! I hope it does get better for you!
  • Resurrecting this thread rather than starting new because I may strangle my DH before this baby comes. :-/ I work an exceptionally active job - on my feet all day long, snagging bites to eat when I can but no real lunch, etc.  It's exhausting not pregnant and it's a whole F-ton worse now.  When I get home, I make dinner.  I also clean the house.  It frustrates the HELL out of me to be the one who does all the cleaning/cooking etc AND working a more-than-full-time job, but it is what it is.

    But now that I'm third trimester and freaking pooped by 11 am, I WANT SYMPATHY at a minimum and HELP would be fabulous.  When I rant about how exhausted I am, or how I'm very excited for May to come to get my body back (and pee when I need to for real, not every 5 minutes because baby is tap dancing on my bladder!), all he can say is, "The baby will be worth it."  YES I KNOW THAT.  THAT'S WHY WE'RE PREGNANT.  Offer to help, rub my back, make dinner, DO SOMETHING to make me feel like this is a team project and not a solo one.  The other day, I fell going up the stairs and was complaining about how this day just hadn't started right (had been up all night with an emergency), he said, "Well if you're determined to have a bad day, you will."  UGH.  HUMOR YOUR PREGNANT WIFE FOR 15 SECONDS AND STOP BEING SO PRACTICAL ALL THE DAMN TIME.

    UGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.
  • @Karenpreggo I hear ya....I've had really bad hip/lower back pain which two weeks ago was preventing me from sleeping more than 3-4 hours a night. I was miserable as this lasted a whole week before I got any relief. After some chiro treatment, things are starting to get better, so I can sleep half-decently again. Now apparently last night pregnant sleepy me was snoring, and I feel asleep before MH. You know what he's been complaining about all day? How he didn't sleep last night because of me (FTR, he's quite the snorer himself, and really in no place to be complaining here). Usually, he's the one who makes dinner, and this morning he said he wanted to cook something nice. Now when we got back from all the errands we had to run, he kept on complaining he was so tired. I told him not to worry about it, and then he was bitching some more about my snoring last night and how he can barely stand up. Needless to say he got very little sympathy coming from me. Hum, who's pregnant again?!
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