Shelby00519 Unless your trip isn't for another few months and you won't get a refund by such a date, IMO I think it's really silly and unnecessary. I can understand where if your vacation was in April and you had until this week to cancel without a refund, but other than that we're taking a lot of steps (especially the parks, they can't afford to have bad press) to spray extra for mosquitos (they already do a phenomenal job). As well, there isn't a travel related case in Orange County (where the parks are located).
I live in the keys and work at a resort, we've had so many women call to cancel. It upsets me that they're allowing this media induced fear to ruin the vacations they've been planning for a long time.
@dolewhipper oh it's so hard for me to keep my composure when I get the phone calls. The part that scares me the most is these women are actually getting doctors orders not to travel!! Who are these doctors?!
@dolewhipper oh it's so hard for me to keep my composure when I get the phone calls. The part that scares me the most is these women are actually getting doctors orders not to travel!! Who are these doctors?!
No but really when I sit back and think about it, I understand how the fear mongering can freak people, even doctors, out. There's still so much we need to learn about it, and it's still so difficult to verify if our LOs get it and whether if they'll be effected. It's just ignorance, but we're all somewhat ignorant on it still.
@dolewhipper I get it, especially doctors who aren't in Florida are more likely to just take those precautions and of course it's better to be safe than sorry. But it's also so cold in Florida right now the mosquitos aren't even out! I know we have SO much to learn, but the way it's portrayed in the news makes me so mad - they love to scare pregnant women!
ETA that doctors up north probably don't have a reason to be as educated on mosquitos as they are down here, Monroe county is so dedicated to the pests we have an entire department of ou government dedicated to mosquito control lol! So I tend to be ignorant to the fact that the rest of the country isn't as obsessed with studying them as they are down here.
We just went ahead and canceled. We talked about it and we had about a week to cancel and get all our money back. We didn't want to risk someone actually getting it in Florida and it being too late to get our money back. On that note in October we're meeting my family at our family cabin in the smokies for a week and after going to go to Disney for a few nights.
Honestly, it's also possible that these doctors are preventing themselves from any kind of lawsuit. I can see how they might fear for themselves if they told a pregnant woman she can go but ended up contracting it somehow.
I don't care if it is crazy and overly panicky, I wouldn't go anywhere where the possibility is even slim. Not worth it to me. I am taking very few chances with this pregnancy and canceling a trip (if I had one planned) would be a no brainer to me.
@MamaBish I think what's making me so upset about it is that I don't have the ability to not go to Florida, since I live here. Defense mechanism is to say these women are crazy, but I'm PGAL so with my behavior that's very hypocritical coming from me lol
I'm leaving for south Florida Friday. I'm not too concerned! There are no cases that have originated in the states! Wear deet and pants and long sleeves if you're that worried.
We are planning a trip to Galveston, Texas in June and my grandmother told me "absolutely not". She said with how terrible the mosquitoes are in the Gulf that we definitely need to cancel.
Just an FYI @nkyokley, mosquitos are still out in Florida. I was there for 5 days last week and got 2 mosquito bites the same day the governor declared a state of emergency. Also, how the virus is spread is those infected people who got it while traveling come back here and get bit by a mosquito that does not have zika. Once that mosquito bites an infected person then they are infected and the next person they bite gets infected. It is something to be seriously concerned about. Wearing mosquito repellent did not stop me from getting mosquito bites when I was in Tampa. I'm PGAL as well so I totally understand the women who are canceling their trips to Florida. If mine wasn't for work I would definitely have cancelled.
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Just an FYI @nkyokley, mosquitos are still out in Florida. I was there for 5 days last week and got 2 mosquito bites the same day the governor declared a state of emergency. Also, how the virus is spread is those infected people who got it while traveling come back here and get bit by a mosquito that does not have zika. Once that mosquito bites an infected person then they are infected and the next person they bite gets infected. It is something to be seriously concerned about. Wearing mosquito repellent did not stop me from getting mosquito bites when I was in Tampa. I'm PGAL as well so I totally understand the women who are canceling their trips to Florida. If mine wasn't for work I would definitely have cancelled.
None of the current cases in the US have been spread that way that I've seen.
@LifeofLauren2 well Florida is a large state, but I live in the Florida keys and I can assure you I haven't seen a single one in weeks. And I live on the water. Perhaps up in the swampy mainland.
I have a trip home to Louisiana planned mid-April for my shower... DH mentioned canceling, but I'm going to wear pants and bug spray and stay indoors for the most part. Honestly if it was a vacation just for fun I'd probably cancel and re-route to a northern state. If cases start breaking out on a regular basis, I'll consider changing my plans but for now I don't see any reason to freak out too much.
@HoosierTerp you are correct. None of the current cases have been spread that way but that is how this disease is spread. It is only a matter of time until the disease can be transmitted in America via mosquitos.
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@LifeofLauren2 you're also talking about someone getting bitten their last few days of travel and then rebitten their first day back. It's not like that scenario is highly likely, especially with the weather still being somewhat cooler. Are we going to see some cases originating in the States eventually? Sure. worth freaking out now? No, I don't think so.
I moved to Florida this October (literally 3 days after I ovulated, lol), and have gotten 4 mosquito bites since moving. I'm pretty coastal, which helps, because they can't breed in salt water and don't like breezes. I have had plenty of fire ant bites, but those aren't known to transmit things, they just sting like hell, YAY! I'm 90 minutes (70 miles) from Orlando, so I'll be happen to keep people updated with how things are changing. I totally understand changing your plans if you aren't coming down here for a while, but considering our highs are currently around 60 for the next two weeks, I'm feeling pretty safe right now. I'll certainly be keeping as up to date on this as possible, but I also know I won't be in long sleeves and long pants 9 months pregnant at 92 degrees and 100% humidity - pretty sure the risk of heat stroke would be higher than Zika at that particular moment.
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It's important to remember that just getting bitten by mosquitoes does not cause Zika. Nor does simply visiting a country where Zika exists. One must be bitten by a mosquito that previously bit a Zika-infected person. Or have sex with someone who is infected. Period.
If Zika-infected travelers returning to the US are bitten by mosquitoes here, it's could become a problem in the US. Until that happens, it's probably not neccessary to cancel travel to any US destinations.
I take Zika seriously, and I have a lot of sympathy for those who are at risk. Last month I went on a cruise that stopped in Mexico and Haiti, right before the Zika made the news. Now I have an appointment to get tested next week. But I'm sticking to facts and science. Until I get my test results back, it keeps me sane.
Ok am I making this up? I thought only a certain kind of mosquito can carry the virus. True or not true? Anyone know? The reason I ask is bc the spread would be a lot slower if it has to be carried by a certain kind that aren't here yet - spreading would be dependent on the spread of that mosquito, not mosquitos in general.
But maybe I'm making that up... Pregnancy brain is real, y'all!
@LinzerBinzer yes it is a type of mosquito but that type (can't remember the name) exists and lives in the southern US states during the summer. The only places expected not to get it until it jumps species are chile and Canada as those countries do not have the right climate for those mosquitos.
I take Zika seriously, and I have a lot of sympathy for those who are at risk. Last month I went on a cruise that stopped in Mexico and Haiti, right before the Zika made the news. Now I have an appointment to get tested next week. But I'm sticking to facts and science. Until I get my test results back, it keeps me sane.
I also traveled before Zika became such a thing, mid december went on a cruise to Honduras, Cozemel, etc. I don't recall being bitten but I asked my dr act it in January when news broke and there office wasn't overly knowledgeable about Zika since it was still slowly coming out. There office contacted the cdc and was told after 2 weeks even if I had had the virus it wouldnt show up on bloodwork anymore. So I didnt even bother getting the test. I wonder if that isnt right since they are testing you... Did they give you any other information? I usually have a giant bump it I get bite and I dont recall that at apl from trip. So I am not worried.
Additionally I am not overly concernedI live in Tampa FL and on a River, mosquitos are bad but I havn't seen any in months.
Puddles03@LinzerBinzer it's called the Aedes aegypti. Also only the females feed for blood, making the spread even slower.
Honestly people, if the women living in these states who are pregnant aren't overly concerned yet, neither should anyone else (unless you really know you have a compound in your skin that attracts these buggers, which in that case, I'm sorry). There are possibilities to get us sick everywhere. I'm not about to be stuck in a bubble in my home.
They love me. It's always been an issue for me. Spray or no spray. That being said, I'm not overly concerned about them here (CO). My problem is I travel for work and my territory includes most of the southern US, so I'm keeping an eye on it.
I think this feels different because it's new (to us), relatively mysterious, and less controllable than some other potential pregnancy issues. It will continue to be a big issue this year, regardless of what those who live in the South actually experience, similar to how closely we followed Ebola last year. There's always something!
I am still going to Disney in 18 days! Yay! BUT just in case, I'll wear my bug spray. My doctor doesn't think it will be an issue but also said bug spray wouldn't hurt. It makes me feel better that when working there on the college program I never got bitten
I know we have to be more careful (avoid Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus or PMD), but some of the options on the list contain DEET or Picaridin which are "considered safe". There are some other botanical options but I am not as familiar with those. Just do your homework & read the label mama's
@tiffanyrickf The CDC revised the guidelines last week, and now recommends that ALL pregnant women who have traveled to a Zika affected country within the last 12 weeks get tested. Without regard to whether you noticed bug bites.
After two weeks, the virus is no longer active in your body. But the antibodies your body produced in response to the virus CAN be detected, so they can tell you whether or not you were infected by Zika. Even after the fact.
When the guidelines were revised, I contacted my healthcare provider and after some confusion on their part (It took them hours to check the updated guidelines) they scheduled my test, as well as a series of ultrasounds to monitor our son's cranial development.
Edited to correct random line breaks that I SWEAR I didn't put in there myself!
I was talking to someone today whose kids are in south Florida. I was recommending the "Mosquito Magnet." It's expensive and has to be set up perfectly/maintened but I swear it is magic!!!
sooooo.... anyone else seeing articles suspecting a Monsanto larvicide added to water supplies is the real source of the microcephaly cases? They claim that some countries have high Zika rates (like Colombia) but they don't have the same link to microcephaly because the larvicide isn't in their water.
sooooo.... anyone else seeing articles suspecting a Monsanto larvicide added to water supplies is the real source of the microcephaly cases? They claim that some countries have high Zika rates (like Colombia) but they don't have the same link to microcephaly because the larvicide isn't in their water.
sooooo.... anyone else seeing articles suspecting a Monsanto larvicide added to water supplies is the real source of the microcephaly cases? They claim that some countries have high Zika rates (like Colombia) but they don't have the same link to microcephaly because the larvicide isn't in their water.
sooooo.... anyone else seeing articles suspecting a Monsanto larvicide added to water supplies is the real source of the microcephaly cases? They claim that some countries have high Zika rates (like Colombia) but they don't have the same link to microcephaly because the larvicide isn't in their water.
I have read this somewhere also..although I don't know if this is scientifically backed??
also, after a conversation with my mother the other day...she kept saying "but....the mosquitos, they are in Houston!!! You are going to get Zika!!!" I just kept repeating that there has been no local transmission of the Zika virus in Houston (or anywhere in the continental US) via mosquitos..over and over. I wouldn't be worried about traveling anywhere in the continental US, currently.
And keep and mind: while chikungunya and dengue fever (very similar viruses to Zika and transmitted the same way) have been spreading throughout the Caribbean and south America, there is no local transmission of chikungunya in the US and have only been very localized outbreaks of dengue in south florida and in the southernmost part of Texas (also please note that there is an outbreak of dengue in Hawaii right now). Dengue fever can actually cause a severe hemorrhagic fever which could be dangerous to you and your baby. If zika does eventually come to the southern US, it will probably be very localized outbreaks as well.
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No but really when I sit back and think about it, I understand how the fear mongering can freak people, even doctors, out. There's still so much we need to learn about it, and it's still so difficult to verify if our LOs get it and whether if they'll be effected. It's just ignorance, but we're all somewhat ignorant on it still.
ETA that doctors up north probably don't have a reason to be as educated on mosquitos as they are down here, Monroe county is so dedicated to the pests we have an entire department of ou government dedicated to mosquito control lol! So I tend to be ignorant to the fact that the rest of the country isn't as obsessed with studying them as they are down here.
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If Zika-infected travelers returning to the US are bitten by mosquitoes here, it's could become a problem in the US. Until that happens, it's probably not neccessary to cancel travel to any US destinations.
I take Zika seriously, and I have a lot of sympathy for those who are at risk. Last month I went on a cruise that stopped in Mexico and Haiti, right before the Zika made the news. Now I have an appointment to get tested next week. But I'm sticking to facts and science. Until I get my test results back, it keeps me sane.
But maybe I'm making that up... Pregnancy brain is real, y'all!
Additionally I am not overly concernedI live in Tampa FL and on a River, mosquitos are bad but I havn't seen any in months.
Honestly people, if the women living in these states who are pregnant aren't overly concerned yet, neither should anyone else (unless you really know you have a compound in your skin that attracts these buggers, which in that case, I'm sorry). There are possibilities to get us sick everywhere. I'm not about to be stuck in a bubble in my home.
I think this feels different because it's new (to us), relatively mysterious, and less controllable than some other potential pregnancy issues. It will continue to be a big issue this year, regardless of what those who live in the South actually experience, similar to how closely we followed Ebola last year. There's always something!
https://www.today.com/health/5-mosquito-repellents-best-protect-against-zika-virus-consumer-reports-t72761
I know we have to be more careful (avoid Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus or PMD), but some of the options on the list contain DEET or Picaridin which are "considered safe". There are some other botanical options but I am not as familiar with those. Just do your homework & read the label mama's
After two weeks, the virus is no longer active in your body. But the antibodies your body produced in response to the virus CAN be detected, so they can tell you whether or not you were infected by Zika. Even after the fact.
When the guidelines were revised, I contacted my healthcare provider and after some confusion on their part (It took them hours to check the updated guidelines) they scheduled my test, as well as a series of ultrasounds to monitor our son's cranial development.
Edited to correct random line breaks that I SWEAR I didn't put in there myself!
I'm also on vacation in south Florida and haven't seen a single mosquito.