DH and I have been discussing our options for when it's time for me to go back to work (or not go back, or part time?). So today I started calling daycares in my area. Holy crap was that depressing. Today was seriously the first day in my pregnancy that I've wished I could have a drink!! I was hoping this thread could be a place where we could share about the process of finding appropriate care for our LO's when they arrive, cost considerations, etc. No need to weigh the merits of being a working mom or SAHM, I think we've all read those threads elsewhere, and it gets really judgmental.
So I will kick this off. Bit of background on me: What I am hoping to do is cut back to part time, use a daycare for that part of the week and spend the rest of the time home with my baby. I don't even know if my employer will go for this option, but I am trying to gather the information I need before having that discussion with her. After making my calls today, I learned that the average cost for full time infant care in my area is $1700 per month. That's about $20k per year, or you know, about the cost of tuition at many colleges. Only two centers out of the 6 or so that I called today even offered a part time option. The others offered only full time, so there is no solution for mothers wishing to work part time. Also, those two centers (one of which is my top choice) already had wait lists for January 2017, when I had hoped to enroll. And speaking of wait lists, most of the daycares had those, too. One place, the cheapest place I found, was booked into March of next year. I guess you're supposed to enroll before you conceive?
I was not under the delusion that this would be easy. But I thought I was being smart and starting early enough that availability wouldn't be the problem. I mean, I'm not even out of my first trimester yet, we haven't even told our friends! I thought DH and I would tour some of these places, choose the ones that we liked best based on the atmosphere, safety, convenience, staff, etc. Then we'd reserve a spot or sign up for a waitlist if necessary. But instead today I found myself putting my name down for waitlists at these places, totally sight unseen, just out of desperation. Looks like we may be selecting a daycare just based on where we can find a spot. My next option is to broaden my search area, but that will mean driving out of my way to pick up and drop off my child, and I live in a city where rush hour traffic is no joke. I guess I better look into nanny shares as well, but I don't know if that's in our price range. I really hope I can get a spot at my top choice, the one that offers part time and is right in my neighborhood. But if DH and I can't find a care option that we are comfortable with, I'll be staying home full time. I will not pay $20K a year for something that I don't even want to do anyway.
Re: Starting the Day Care Search
Most places we looked at just told us to give them a heads up if we were planning on using them then once he arrived I called to give his start date and paid the deposit, etc. We actually pulled him out of the first daycare we had him in after a month because while the workers were nice, the policies ended up not being right for us (they had told us they were implementing a "no shoes in the infant room" rule but it never happened - kids were crawling/rolling/lying around on the disgusting floors we were walking on in our snowy boots!) and the office staff never seemed to recognize us as having a child there.
One thing we loved about where we ended up is that everyone just seemed HAPPY. The director, the workers, all the parents. People said hello to each other on the way in/out and just seemed glad that their kids were at this facility. We had toured this same location while I was pregnant but mid-morning (after drop off) and I didn't get a good vibe. It wasn't until we went back months later that we just felt comfortable leaving our child there the next day.
I am now a SAHM (DS had some health issues that led us to pull him from daycare, then eventually me leaving my job) so we won't be doing a daycare search this time around, but I wanted to share my insights from a few years ago when I was in your shoes. We actually had a nanny come to our house 3 days a week when we first pulled him from daycare (I had switched to part time by then) which was also a great situation. It's definitely emotional thinking about leaving your baby somewhere when you haven't even MET your baby yet. But the right place/situation will present itself.
I would suggest looking for a part time nanny as it seems like it would work with your schedule the best.
Mad far as the wait lists go, if you found a center you really liked, I would put your name down, and then once baby is born, call every week asking if there is a spot. It doesn't sound like it would get you in faster, but if something just opened up, they are more likely to offer it to you since they know you are 100% going there. Less work for them I guess.
Married May 2014
DD born August 2016
Baby #2 due December 2017
For part time, are you open to looking at a nanny or in home sitter or a church based provider? Most of those offer more part time options versus a full time center.
I will say that most places do have a waitlist, but often they do move quickly through the list because people put their name down on multiple lists and then when they are called, they turn down the spot.
Prices for newborn care here range for centers. The larger for-profit centers are usually about $1,000 per month. They have longer hours and nice centers. It does seem like there is high staff turn over. The rooms are larger (more babies, usually the same state ratio (ours is 1:4 under a year)) most rooms have about 12 babies and 3 teachers. The advantage to 3 teachers is that there are extra hands around if help is needed. So often, one teacher could be on the floor playing/rocking 4 babies and the other teacher could be patting two in the cribs.
We ended up for our second at a church center that is pretty large so it offers full time care (but more limited hours). The infant rate is $750 so much cheaper. Same ratios but it seems like the staff is there full time. For example, at the For-profit center, once a few babies left for the night, they would also release a teacher. So they were never paying for more coverage than they needed. At the church, the teachers have their set hours so even if there are only 3-4 babies at the end of the day, there are still all 3 teachers there. It also gave teachers more time to clean up and such.
Have you considered looking into in-home daycares? Many of them can provide you with references from parents whose children go to that person for care and they can give you honest information about their feelings about the provider, and they're usually lower cost than regular daycare centers. My grandma has kids that she babysat since birth who STILL go visit her, even now that they're in their mid-twenties. Look for a provider like that, who has kids who WANT to come back as they get older, and whose parents can say their kids have been going their for years. Also, make sure they're licensed through the state. Best of luck, mama! I know it's super stressful!
So it might be something to try and call those centers to see what their immediate availability is. Perhaps the wait lists are so long because people put their names in at multiple places, so when they eventually choose one, the centers may still actually have openings. They might not, but could be worth checking into. Another option would be to see if there are any local mom groups that can recommend in-home child care.
Most infant/toddler programs are full time from what I've seen. I currently work at a local university that has a school for young children ranging from infant/toddler-VPK. So I'm lucky in the sense that not only do I have a place right here where I work, but I also receive a discount (hallelujah).
I submitted the application for when I was still preggo with him because I knew they fill up fast. We started him at the school when he was 5 months. He is going to be 2 years old in March and I can truly say that we LOVE his school. His infant/toddler class started with 12 babies and he had 6 teachers the first year (1:2 ratio is mandatory there). I cried the night before I dropped him off feeling horrible that I couldn't stay with him, but after a few days I realized that they took excellent care of him. He received an amazing amount of stimulation all day and he interacted with other kids which I loved. I was fortunately able to visit him on my lunch hour which was amazing since I was right on campus. Now he's going to be 2, he is still with the same group of kids so they almost have the relationship of siblings, and they love each other because every time one of them arrives in the morning they all get excited. Most important, he truly looks happy which to me is everything.
I just placed a call this week to enroll the LO and I'm waiting to hear back from them on the timing. Let's see, I really hope they can both be at the same school. Next year he will be entering preschool, which has a lot more flexibility. They offer 3,4, and 5 day weeks, so let's see what will happen.
From my experience these past 2 years, look for a school that has a strong teacher to child ratio (especially for infant/toddler programs). Search for a school with a strong curriculum, even at that young age. You want to see them make things like tummy time a priority and other exercises that help development. Also fun things like music, reading, learning sounds and colors. The teachers early on start teaching sign language and the kids actually pick it up quick! Before my son could talk be was signing works like "milk", "all done", "please", and "more", which was amazing for communication.
Importantly, you want to see them monitoring development and working with the kids, so you can see how your baby is doing. I receive daily reports on how well he ate, slept, and his diaper changes, as well as daily activities. Also receive quarterly reports on development and how he interacts with teachers and other kids.
Your baby will get sick, it happens when they are with other children. In the first year it felt like every other week he had something. DS has had croupe, hand-foot-and-mouth, colds, stomach bugs, it felt endless. I knew that the school was clean because these teachers were OCD about being clean! The kids share things and stick everything in their mouths, its inevitable. They had mandatory policies about seeing the doc before they could come back, and being sent home with a certain temperature, etc. Still it happens. Now, he hardly comes down with anything, so I guess his immune system is pretty strong.
Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to assure you that as hard as it is to leave your little one, it's totally doable. I'm a mother that works full time and my children go to daycare. I can do this because I truly love where they are/will be. DS receives a level of stimulation that I don't think I can even provide, these teachers are amazing. Find that place for your kid, ask a lot of questions so you can be confident about your choice. Make sure to pop in and check on your LO when you can, they should be willing for you to do that. If they aren't, move on.
Me - 33; DH - 33Dating 1/18/06
Married 9/21/13
BFP #1 12/15/15 - C Born 8/27/16
BFP #2 1/10/20 - EDD 9/8/20
Whatever place you decide, be sure to randomly drop in and call and make your presence known. They know my voice as soon as I say hello. I've been the classroom mom already, organizing teacher gifts in May and end of year gifts in Aug. Your kid gets better care when the teachers and admin know you personally.
tips:
- I hate that our school is nut safe. Doing it all over again we have to stay with this school with the next baby but I would have picked one where I could send a pb&j with his lunch. :-(
- the "no shoes in the infant room" gig is a joke. Once baby is crawling, his immune system is getting stronger to handle some dirt and germs. It always felt so stupid to take off shoes and put those stupid booties on when he would crawl around our house and we don't have a no show rule in our own home. Kids need germs to develop healthy immune systems.
- we have a computer system which we have to log in our kid and check him out every day, yes, like a library book. It gives us all a kickback email with that confirmation so I know he got to school and he wasn't accidentally forgotten in daddy's car on a hot day. I would not have thought to seek it out but it is a lifesaver. Otherwise I recommend calling every morning to ask about your kid. Yes, even moms have forgotten their kids in a car all day.
- picking your best daycare option closest to home is great. If you are off work that day, kiddo can still go to school while you get things done at home. If you pick a place near work, you have less incentive to drive all the way to work just to have your kid at daycare that day.
- consider having a back up daycare arranged for days your center is closed.
* and everything @Ceventa said above!
Good luck!
Our little lightbulb is on the way!
12 weeks 3 days
TTC since Oct 2011
Me: 33, hypothyroidism since 14, cleared all HSG, US, Pre-pregnancy panel tests.
Hubby: 36, testicular Ca, chemo April-May 2012.
Natural cycle IUI #1 with trigger and Progesterone Suppositories (Jun 2012) Neg
Natural Cycle IUI #2 with trigger and Progesterone Suppositories (Jul 2012) NEG
Aug 2012 - break due to needing a girls' weekend in Cape Cod
Natural Cycle IUI #3 with trigger and prednisone (Sep 2012) NEGATIVE
Switched fertility clinics - forced break Oct 2012
Natural Cycle IUI #4 (Nov 2012) no trigger, no progesterone, no prednisone (Nov 2012) - Neg
1st round Clomid Cycle IUI #5 (Dec 2012) - POS
It's definitely overwhelming. Now that we're talking about it, I've asked a few people for some recommendations. Hopefully we can find something that works in our budget! I won't get more than 6 weeks leave (if I'm lucky) so we'll need something pretty much right away.
Yes yes yes to what @echurley said.
We got the welcome packet for the one we ended up going with and I was horrified. The wrong use of "Their" and "There"... misspellings all over the place. It was terrible!
We got there, and in person, it was awesome. The teachers had great rapport with the "students" - the place was well structured and bright.
In person, we ended up loving it. Turns out, its a relatively new center, and the director is trying to do all the PR, communication with parents, book-keeping AND teach the 4 -5 year olds all herself. A few grammar mistakes slipped through the cracks.
good luck! it's crazy stressful but you'll figure it out because you have to:)
The Rowdy Roberts
Me - 33; DH - 33Dating 1/18/06
Married 9/21/13
BFP #1 12/15/15 - C Born 8/27/16
BFP #2 1/10/20 - EDD 9/8/20