I don't know where else to post this, so here it goes. I'm not pregnant yet, but will hopefully be soon (going through fertility treatments) and have a moderate needle phobia. Now, I have a lidocaine cream that helps numb the skin for blood draws and such, but it only works for so long and has to be used about an hour before the prick. I was wondering if anyone has experience with hospital births and knows if the IV's are different or if they have some kind of pain medication to help with the pain of the IV itself. I know someone is going to say that the IV isn't that bad, but getting my blood drawn is incredibly painful and even with the lidocaine cream still hurts a lot, and for a long time after the blood draw which I have found out isn't normal. Once I'm pregnant my husband and I are going to tour a couple of hospitals and I'll ask them too, but kind of looking for some peace of mind before all of that begins.
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Diagnosed with PCOS, later changed to unexplained anovulation due to high prolactin and normal testosterone levels
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High sperm count (yay!) but also super high fluid volume (boo!)
First IUI, Clomid and Follistim: 11/29-BFN
Second IUI, Femara and Follistim: 12/29-BFN
Third IUI, Femara and Gonal-F (and Follistim): 1/28 BFN
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Re: IV During Birth
I will also add the true but somewhat cliche line: It's all totally worth it. Good luck TTC!
It may be worth it to you to look into Hypnobabies, as they have a track called "Needles are OK!" that I've read can be extremely helpful. It could help during your fertility treatments, as well. I don't have experience with that track as I don't have that particular fear, but I had a great experience with an unmedicated birth using the hypnobabies home study course.
i have a horrible phobia of needles as well. before getting pregnant, i hadnt had a single blood test in close to 10 years. i refused one every single time my doctor mentioned them. unfortunately, being pregnant, i couldn't really refuse anymore. there's a lot of important tests that they do that require blood. & as a PP mentioned, something may pop up with no warning & you'll need to rush to the hospital & be given an IV right away. just may be something to consider before getting pregnant.
but honestly, if you're wanting to get pregnant & are okay with the pain of labour, i feel like you should be okay with the pain of a needle prick.
OP I agree- at the point of labor the pain of a needle might not even be on your radar.
A) You aren't going to always have time for numbing medication. If emergencies happen during pregnancy you most likely won't get an option. Also numbing medication, depending on what type of IV access they place, can mess up the initial insertion.
B ) It's seriously something you need to consider going to therapy for vs. assuming everyone can just work around it. You will be very disappointed with your health care experience while pregnant. I'm not even talking delivery at all, because I don't know where you live or anything.
C) Pregnancy requires a lot of blood work depending on health and how things go.
I think you need to work on some of your issues before you become pregnant because right now the expectations are unrealistic.
Edited because why smilie with sunglasses? Why?
ETA: and pushing a baby out of your vag or having him or her surgically extracted isn't exactly buckets of fun, either.
OP - as others have said there are lots of needle sticks to endure while pregnant. At times, you'll feel like a pincushion. If you deliver in a hospital, you're more than likely going to have to have an IV. If you want an epidural it's a must. Maybe the process of your fertility treatments will help you overcome your fears if you have to give yourself shots.
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This I understand but I do hope OP can try and get help to get over it because pregnancy and childbirth are tough and painful (duh, right?). I mean, her phobia must be pretty hard core if she's worrying about this now and not even pregnant yet.
OP I think your plan of touring hospitals and asking is a good idea.
That was pretty harsh.
Obviously it would be very helpful to try and get help for this issue now - psychiatrist consultation at the very least. There are ways to relieve needle anxiety in any situation, which does not include shaming. You may ask your doctor about them
That said, having just gone through the experience, I haaaaate IVs and honestly found that being in labor was an excellent distraction from the fact that there was one in me.
OP this might sound cliche, but cross that bridge when you get to it - don't borrow trouble and all that. You'll be fine.
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No pregnancy is the same so I'm not saying my experience will be yours but it is something to be prepared for. For the first 2 weeks I had 2-3 blood draws to make sure my hcg levels were rising (due to previous losses). After that I was fine for about a week and then started getting really sick. We assumed it was just morning sickness but pretty soon it was obvious that it wasn't and I was diagnosed with HG. I have since had 3-5 iv's a week not to mention the 3 times I was hospitalized and had a constant iv going for over a week. It sucks and it's not fun but it is nesecary for me so I can keep myself and my baby as healthy as I can. Phobias are very hard to deal with but I feel that it is something you should work through now with a therapist or psychologist so you are prepared with ways to cope when the time comes. Good luck!
ETA: HG is not common during pregnancy (I believe less that 1%(?)) but getting an iv during the first trimester due to vomiting is more common but can be prevented sometimes.
I wish I could say that you'll get used to it, because I still haven't, but the best thing I've done is make someone go with me to hold my hand, request I am restrained (I've subconsciously attacked someone holding a needle by me in the past who didn't know) ask for a pediatric or butterfly needle, and treat yourself when you're finished with whatever tests you're getting done.
I haven't had the conversation with my OB about needles yet, because all the blood work is done off site at a lab, but I'm looking into opting to not use an IV at the hospital. I'm not entirely opposed to a Hep/lock (or however it's spelled) in my hand, but I know myself well enough to know that no matter how much pain I'll be in with a natural birth, I won't be able to zone out on the crook of my arm putting something into my body.
Also you are completely able to refuse an IV at the hospital. Just be aware you're going to get ridiculous amounts of shit for it, and the alternative can be pretty horrifying as well. (Like me getting a giant shot in my ass when I had a UTI that was causing bleeding early on in my first trimester) But that was worth it to me at the time. I'm not so ok with what I've read can happen if you aren't already hooked up to one during birth.
(Definitely going to be checking out that needles are ok hypnobabies track btw)
Welllll you DID kind of imply that it was ridiculous for the OP (who is an adult) to have this fear. Sure sounded that way to me.
She's scared, give her a break. Hopefully she will get help.
I can't say it would be the same for you, and I still think some therapy would be your best bet. I wish you luck.
My main issue with the numbing cream is that it doesn't work down to the vein or to muscle and only works for about an hour and a half to 2 hours so I know it will wear off during labor if I even get enough heads up to use it. Granted with the pain of contractions, I might not notice the IV going in lol.
I have looked into therapy for my phobia (as I know I do need to get past it) but unfortunately most of the therapists I can find have the opinion of, "just go through it a lot and you'll get over it eventually" which doesn't really work for me.
I do want to look into the hypnobabies thing (Thanks @MississippiCatfish!) and hopefully all of the tests and everything leading up to having the baby will help mitigate some of the anxiety
Diagnosed with PCOS, later changed to unexplained anovulation due to high prolactin and normal testosterone levels
Him: 31
High sperm count (yay!) but also super high fluid volume (boo!)
First IUI, Clomid and Follistim: 11/29-BFN
Second IUI, Femara and Follistim: 12/29-BFN
Third IUI, Femara and Gonal-F (and Follistim): 1/28 BFN
Fourth IUI, Femara and Gonal-F: 7/23 BFN
IVF 1: Femara and Gonal-F: 1/23/2017
Beta Study:
Beta #1: 1/28/2017 4.1
Beta #2: 1/30/2017 34
Beta #3: 2/1/2017 131
Beta #4: 2/3/2017 476
Ultrasound: 2/14/17-Twin Etopic Pregnancy, surgery to remove right fallopian tube on 2/17/2017
FET 2: Femara, Gonal-F, and Clomid: Cycle Canceled due to low progesterone
FET 3: July 7, Femara, Gonal-F, Clomid-BFP!!!!!! Due March 2018
I agree with other PPs about seeing a therapist about your phobias. It could help, especially coupled with pre-natal blood draws you might not get to the panic-attack/passing out phase my friend deals with.
I cant give the exact names of drugs, but there are anti anxiety medications and gasses,which can be inhaled to reduce the anxiety. They can be used during childbirth
OP something else to keep in mind (that may have been brought up...I didn't read all responses) is the possibility of spinal/epidural's during labor. I do remember my spinal being unpleasant although it wasn't as bad as I had read or thought. It was over very quickly but it wasn't something I'd like repeated (although that has now gone out the window).
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I can tell you, they never asked me if I wanted special numbing cream ect... But at that point, all I wanted/needed were fluids so I just turned my head and thought about something else besides the pain.
The amount of blood work you have to have done when pregnant sucks as well.
The IV I got when I was in labor was a breeze, possibly due to the fact my contractions were a million times worse. We will see how this birth goes.
I've found the butterfly definitely helps with the blood draw and if the nurse is nice. The nurse I had the 1st few times was so nice and kept asking me things to keep me distracted, whereas the last nurse was seemingly irritated at me. Maybe see if you can get a friend or family member to go with you to ask you things to distract you. I also cover my whole head with a sweater, so I can't see the needle from the get-go or see it go in. When I had my IV when I got my appendix out, I refused to move that whole arm and had them wrap it up in towels so I couldn't see it. I was in the hospital 3 days and had problems moving it when I was finally released. I swear all the fluids they put in the IV burned too and the nurses told me it shouldn't. I know my fear is completely ridiculous, but I do feel like I've made some improvements with needles so far this pregnancy (I've had 3 blood draws & 1 shot, plus 3 dental shots). I know during delivery there will be a lot of needles, but I planned on my pain from the contractions being so intense that hopefully I would be distracted and out of it enough that the needles/IV won't be as noticeable. I am nervous about the IV being in my hand though, I'd rather have it in the crook of my arm so I can wrap it in a towel again and not have it have as much movement as it would with my hand, plus my veins are good by my mid arm.
I might try out the hypnobabies needle course that someone else mentioned on here, I actually had previously thought about trying a hypnosis thing with needles.
OP, you're braver than me, if I would have had problems conceiving I wouldn't have wanted to deal with any of those needles..
Is this a ridiculous reaction for an adult to have? Definitely.
Do my limbic or adrenaline systems give a flying eff? No.
I used to have similar reactions to needles (without the extreme fight or flight). I would go sweaty, sweaty palms, dry mouth, shaking, near passing out. Pregnancy the first time around, I was stuck so many times for blood draws, IVs, etc, that it really helped desensitize me to it. Do I always ask for the most experienced person? Yes. Always. I also let them know I'm a fainter, so I lie down before blood draws. It also really helps to have something to look at (your phone is great). Thank goodness I have two very easily accessible spots (one in hand for IV and one in arm for blood draws). If I didn't, and it took several attempts each time, I believe they'd have to knock me out first.
ETA On the upside, during actual labor, the pain from the contractions takes away a lot of the focus you might have for the needle/IV going in. So there's that.
OP I'm proud to hear you are looking for solutions and tips now it's that proactive attitude that is going to help you fight and get over this phobia. I do suggest therapy as it sounds like it really was triggered by some traumatic experiences as a child and working through them and learning some calming and self soothing techniques could be extremely helpful.
Just because you are an adult does not mean your fear is not real to you even if it does not seem rational to others or you it doesn't dimenish it in the moment right now. I doubt these same nurses would say "your an adult just feel better" to a patient with depression or "your an adult just eat something" to a patient with an eating disorder but I think they are highly misguided in being so callous to you!
My veins are bad and collapse all the time. When I was in the ICU a few years ago they left in all the emergency room ports because it was so difficult to get them in (I had 3 in one arm and 1 in another). Honestly I don't remember them hurting at all.
Since you you are giving yourself shots now Id recommend seeing it as your exposure therapy. Perhaps start my doing some guided meditation, breathing exercises, and slowly not using the cream.
Pain is often in line with our expectation of pain. I don't stay numb from freezing for dental work (we are talking nothing frozen after 8 needles and 20 minutes) and I tolerate it-as I've had to since I was a child and I go in relaxed. I used the same mentality when I started donating blood.
Some phobias you you never have to face (ok so I'm phobic of chickens-don't know why, but if you want to see a freak out surround me with chickens). I don't worry about it, I'm a city girl and never are around them.
Working on anxiety now is important. I have panic disorder and it is for me a permanent disability-I got it under control so I could have a child and not make them a quivering mess. my aunt passed on all her anxieties to my cousin and now at 15 he is having to undergo very tough therapy while living with someone who won't get help.
Remember the ear reattachment? Everyone around me was freaking out-except my mom. She stayed calm, smiled, gave me the thumbs up. Her response was composed so I could calm down, inside she was scared and nervous but she knew I needed her to be strong. That's what I used to inspire me to seek treatment prior to becoming a parent.
As an ICU nurse - I think you should plan to get one when things are calm and not when it's emergent. It's much harder to find a good spot when it's "crunch time." Additionally, you can always ask for IV therapy (designated IV insertion RNs) to place yours as those are the equivalent of phlebotomy in blood draws for IVs. However I can tell you, any RN who works L&D has plenty of experience to place one well.
I realize you are scared, and I know not many people can say much to absolve that fear, but I'm hoping you can conquer this the closer you get to needing one ! Best wishes !
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