@MissAmeliaPond it's good to recognize when depression is rearing it's ugly head so you can know to get help if needed. I'm so sorry for your loss - people often don't understand how difficult a CP can be (and the fact that they call it chemical doesn't help!!). Hugs to you.
me 30; DH 35 TTC since May 2014. Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d. Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1). AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR. RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW. Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Short LP (8 days). Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
@megsbrock Thank
you! It was definitely a weird TWW for
my second cycle after MC. My temperature
seemed to drop a day or so early (haven’t been temping that long so can’t be
positive, plus), but I was very nauseous and headachey, and like you said, I was very
hopeful maybe they were pregnancy symptoms, but then AF hit hard. It didn’t seem like anything serious or
problematic, just weird for me… but I will talk to the doctor about it during
my appointment on Monday anyway. Hopefully my body continues to go back to it's regular thing soon so I know go back to knowing what to expect for AF!
@RiverSong15 Yay Steelers! Also, I know what you mean
about that feeling of being destined for multiple MCs. Sounds like that’s a fear a lot of us
have. (I know I do too!) It seems that although we know MC
is a possibility from the start, we never seem to think it will happen to us,
until it does. Then we’re faced
realizing that pregnancy is not always the happy path we want it to be. It doesn't seem like we have any control over it, so like you said, I'm trying to be positive and look for a happy future!
@MissAmeliaPond Sorry you are having a rough time. Hope
you’re able to feel at least a bit better soon!
Also, it’s exciting to see how many Whovians we have on this
board! Love your names and pics!
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks) MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks) MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP) RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017 MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP) RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017 MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023. Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing. Surgery for endometriosis January 2024 Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
@MissAmeliaPond - hugs - I've struggled with depression for over a decade too - it is hard, and it sounds like you're experiencing some strong depressive symptoms - are there any things that have helped you in the past that you could try again? Perhaps you should go see your doctor about this before you make a big decision.
Creepy internet hugs
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@MissAmeliaPond I'm sorry for your loss and that you're now struggling with depression again. I definitely know what it's like to have to deal with depression. I hope that you can find something to works for you to help with the depression. I'm also sorry about your work situation. I'm sure it isn't easy to know you'll likely lose your position soon. And to have the uncertainty of not knowing if you should just leave now or wait it out for the severance package. For what it's worth, I'd say you should do whatever is best for you. If you feel like it is detrimental to your mental health to stay then I'd say it's probably time to move on and look elsewhere.
If you decide to stay then perhaps you can find a way to cut yourself some slack. I'm sure you're doing the best you can at work. Maybe the best you can do right now isn't as good as your normal best. But that's just life. All you can do is your best, whatever that looks like at the time. After that you have to just know that you did what you could and try not to beat yourself up over it being less than what you wanted. If you had a coworker who had just had a loss in the family and he/she wasn't performing quite up to normal following the loss I'm sure you'd understand. I'm sure you wouldn't fault him/her for having a little trouble at work.
Wishing you all the best.
Here's a gif that usually makes me laugh:
Me: 28 Husband: 31 TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016 Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
@MissAmeliaPond I'm sorry you're struggling right now. I agree with PP not to rush to any decision. Depression clouds judgement and makes it hard to see yourself clearly, which makes it really difficult to make decisions. I'd recommend sticking it out at work until you can meet with a therapist a couple times. He or she could help you come up with a plan that's best for you.
@Cubslove12 That 20% number is pretty much anyone's chance on a single cycle. It's not related to your MC at all. Not extremely comforting, I know, but please don't stress about the MC affecting your chances.
@chloe97 Yay for getting the green light to start TTC again!
@RiverSong15 I'm glad you're in a better emotional place this week!
@MissAmeliaPond I'm sorry you are going struggling right now. I agree with PPs. Don't let depression cloud your decision. I second the recommendation of therapy. Being able to let everything out is very freeing. I really struggled with depression clouding my judgement after our second MC. I put off going to therapy for months, but I was so glad for the release when I did finally go.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc)
TWW / 3 DPO
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs?
I'm not much on sports. I'll probably just pick a random team when it comes to the Superbowl.
Status: Benched, still bleeding from MC. Actually sitting at the doctor's now. Came last week and was very upset to see that despite all bleeding I'd had so far, not only had the MC not happened but the sac was larger. Hoping I do not get the same news this week, as I am ready to stop feeling so crappy.
GTKY Sorry to be boring but we don't watch football.
I also wanted to send everyone hugs and say I'm sorry I missed last week. I was so upset after my appointment and the resulting painful cytotec cramps that I did no bumping.
@AmMcc12 Sorry about your dr reminding you of the U/S.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc) Benched...NTNP
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I don't follow NFL*Questions* I hope this is ok. I don't want to start a new thread. 1.For those of you who have experienced a MC.....Did you count from your BFP to your first AF one cycle or how did you count it? 2. I know a few of you use EPO...did you check with your Dr before using? I don't notice much CM and would like to use it next cycle.
@dogmomwantinghuman I count from my BFP to the first day of red bleeding from my MC as one (long) cycle and exclude it from my stats in FF. The first day of red bleeding with my MC is counted as CD1 for the first post-MC cycle that will end once AF shows.
@dogmomwantinghuman Yes, I counted first day of bleeding from my miscarriage as CD1 and excluded it from my FF stats... which are all messed up anyways.
I also used EPO for one cycle during my time TTCing DS. It majorly messed up my cycle. Like ovulating super early on like CD 9 or 10. I also noticed no benefit in terms of cervical mucus .If you are planning to use it I would do lots of reading. It can impact your estrogen levels which is why I never used it again. I have had the best luck with increasing CM by drinking green tea before ovulation and overall just drinking a TON of water every day. Also, checking for CM internally might give you a better indication of how "much" you have going on. Before doing this myself I thought I wasn't having much based just on external evidence, but in reality there was much more.
@dogmomwantinghuman first of all, your username is so awesome; I think my dog wants a baby more than me so that I'll stop being so obsessed with her! Ha second of all, after both of my m/cs, I ovulated 2 weeks after HCG levels hit zero. So if I counted CD1 as the first day of bleeding, this put my ovulation at CD twenty something....however I think for me, CD1 would make more sense as the day HCG hits zero (or essentially zero, which I think they say is <5).
H and I both 30 TTC #1 started Aug 2014 BFP Apr 3 2015 natural M/C April 20 2015 @ 6w6d BFP Nov 18 2015 natural M/C Nov 23 2015 @ 5w4d.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc)- WTO, but I feel like I bounce between being ready to TTC and being too terrified of another MC... DH mentioned something about wanting a baby for his birthday this year (late 2016) and it just broke my heart because my original DD was a few weeks before my birthday.
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I dont really follow any sports but the Patriots always get my vote (new englander from the start)
@BornReady - I find the green tea before ovulating piece interesting - is this something that was recommended to you or something you just tried and found worked for you?
@dogmomwantinghuman - I counted the first day of bleeding of my MC as CD1 - and I'll figure out how to exclude this cycle from FF at some point (I'm new to FF, I was using the one associated with TCOYF but I like the interface better with FF - at the moment I'm using both...). I think this cycle would likely be wonky regardless of where you put CD1 - and in terms of dating I'd go by temperatures and CM for pinpointing ovulation regardless, and my doctor says that unless I have 3-4 regular cycles we'll need to do a dating ultrasound...
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@catiecatp It was recommended to me from a friend. I use it before ovulation only to help with increasing CM. I notice a difference, but couldn't tell you if there is a direct relationship. I try to drink a ton of fluids before O regardless to increase CM so I'm sure it's mostly related to that. I like green tea though, so I figure why not!
@kmolleltz I totally understand what you're feeling about going back and forth about being ready to TTC and being scared of another MC. H has told me that it's entirely my decision, which I appreciate, but I wish he would tell me that he wants to wait a month. I know in my head that my chances for another MC are the same if we conceive this month or if we conceive next, so I'm not sure why it would do any good to wait a month. I feel like I just need to rip off the band aid and who knows maybe it won't happen this month.
Question *************************************** Thought I would ask here rather than starting a new thread. Last week my HCG levels were 3. My doctor considers that negative and didn't see any problems outside of possible dating issues with us TTC this month. My friend who had a MC with cytotech a few weeks before me had her HCG levels come in at 2 this week. Both of us had what we consider to be AFs last week and we're hoping to conceive this month. Her doctor advised her not to, while my doctor told us that we could. Is there any reason besides dating that conceiving with very minimal HCG levels could be bad? My friend seems to think that having any HCG in your system when you conceive increases your risk of MC, but I can't find that anywhere. I could email my dr too, but I thought I would start here before I went to my dr with 2ndhand advice.
For those drinking green tea, there is some evidence that it can interfere with folate uptake, so make sure you're not drinking it within a few hours of taking your PNV.
1. Introduce yourself if you're new: TTCAL 2, after my first pregnancy ending with a MMC that led to a D&C just over a month ago
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc) WTO. Not sure if creamy or watery... can't an alarm just go off or something?
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I don't care about football but as a native Oregonian, I'm happy to see the Seahawks win. I live in MN now so the Vikings are okay I guess, but between the two I'm happy the Seahawks beat them. And I like to see the Packers lose because then I know my ex is having a bad day XD
LFAF/Nov 16 challenge: Bad TV moms that shouldn't be celebrated
BFP #1 10/30/15 MMC found 11/30/15 D&C 12/11/15 EDD 7/9/16
healing comes in waves, and maybe today the wave hits the rocks and that’s ok, that’s ok, darling. you are still healing, you are still healing- Ijeoma Umebinyuo, be gentle with yourself BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
@MisssAmeliaPond I'm sorry life is kicking you while you're down. I also have a history of depression that is normally in check, but dealing with loss was tough. Based on my limited knowledge of your situation, I would lean toward sticking it out. I think depression tends to make us lean toward whatever decision leads to doing the least, and that tends to only make things worse. I would think if you left you'd just move to feeling guilty about having left and stressing about money, you know? @dogmomwantinghuman in my chart I counted the first day of bleeding as CD1 but in my head I kind of thought of it as being the day of my D&C.
@chloe97 I don't think there's really reason to worry. It's not that hCG raises the chance of another mc, it's that it could mean retained tissue but for both of you it's probably still just making its way down. Some doctors are just way more traditional and conservative than others. Mine didn't even bother checking. Over on TTGP TheBorg posted an article that suggests your chances of a take home baby are actually higher if you try again right away, might be worth looking at.
LFAF/Nov 16 challenge: Bad TV moms that shouldn't be celebrated
BFP #1 10/30/15 MMC found 11/30/15 D&C 12/11/15 EDD 7/9/16
healing comes in waves, and maybe today the wave hits the rocks and that’s ok, that’s ok, darling. you are still healing, you are still healing- Ijeoma Umebinyuo, be gentle with yourself BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
@kmolleltz I totally understand what you're feeling about going back and forth about being ready to TTC and being scared of another MC. H has told me that it's entirely my decision, which I appreciate, but I wish he would tell me that he wants to wait a month. I know in my head that my chances for another MC are the same if we conceive this month or if we conceive next, so I'm not sure why it would do any good to wait a month. I feel like I just need to rip off the band aid and who knows maybe it won't happen this month.
Question ***************************************
Thought I would ask here rather than starting a new thread. Last week my HCG levels were 3. My doctor considers that negative and didn't see any problems outside of possible dating issues with us TTC this month. My friend who had a MC with cytotech a few weeks before me had her HCG levels come in at 2 this week. Both of us had what we consider to be AFs last week and we're hoping to conceive this month. Her doctor advised her not to, while my doctor told us that we could. Is there any reason besides dating that conceiving with very minimal HCG levels could be bad? My friend seems to think that having any HCG in your system when you conceive increases your risk of MC, but I can't find that anywhere. I could email my dr too, but I thought I would start here before I went to my dr with 2ndhand advice.
As far as I've been able to tell from the research I've done after my MC a "normal" hCG level in women who are not pregnant is anything less than 5miu. So I think a level of 3miu would be fine. But I'm not a doctor so I could definitely be wrong.
Me: 28 Husband: 31 TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016 Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
1. I can't remember if I introduced myself back in September after my first loss, so I will make this quick. We've been TTC for a little over two years and I've been seeing a RE since last March. I've done 5 rounds of Clomid and had two successful rounds, both ending in miscarriages.
2. I found out last Tuesday that our baby no longer had a heartbeat at 10w2d. I will go in tomorrow for an ultrasound to double check and then I will have my D&C. Feeling a little nervous about it, but I think it will be okay. I am thankful this board exists so we can all support one another.
3. Right now, football is the last thing on my mind...
@AL_TwinCities hope you're doing ok! Thinking of you and sending hugs.
Thanks everyone for the positive thoughts. This week has been ridiculous. Started bleeding and cramping heavier Sunday afternoon, Monday afternoon/evening had strong cramping, Tuesday had 5 hours of painful contractions, Wednesday morning another 4 hours of contractions and then nothing the rest of the day. I know this isn't over and am so confused over the starting and stopping. Wtf. My doctor said I can keep waiting it out, just to keep an eye out for signs of infection. I'm ready for this to be over.
me 30; DH 35 TTC since May 2014. Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d. Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1). AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR. RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW. Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining. Short LP (8 days). Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
1. Intro: Had a loss at 10 weeks and ghosted from the BMB. Honestly, I'm not a fan of BMB groups, a lot of garbage statistics and perfectly healthy people worrying. I likely won't join one when I do, prefer the support from the TTC groups much more! 2. Benched. Had my D&C almost two weeks ago.. So 3 months in the toilet for the sadest reason and poor baby gone. Anyway, part of me wants to try because this can happen again so I'll just keep compounding the sadness, move forward, maybe switch to a doctor that gives a sh$t about me and I'm not getting any younger. The other half is terrified, play it safe, what the full two long a he$$ cycles. And see if I still have tragic miscarriage dust the 3rd cycle. I guess time will tell. 3. Not the patriots. I'm a Giants fan. Unfortunately we didn't make the playoffs this year to destroy their hopes and dreams because the Giants were terrible.
So sorry for you loss @KyCade3013 . I had a similar thought process as you. I'm definitely not getting younger either. The loss of "time" was the biggest part of my grief for me. The thoughts of "I'll be x age when this child would graduate" etc. put me into a very dark place. I totally intended to try right away and will say I definitely didn't prevent. My body on the other hand had a different idea and this, my third cycle is the first that has resembled my "normal" and something that would be congruent with getting pregnant. Anyways, my point being that I'm feeling a lot more at peace with the wait than I did at the beginning.
How long have you been TTC? Are your long cycles something your doctor is concerned with ? Good luck moving forward, and sorry you have to be here with us, but it is a good supportive board.
Sorry guys, I tried to stay away from thebump over the holidays. I am back now! I see a lot of new names, I am so sorry to see you all here...For those that just arrived, you are in the right place for the support and knowledge from the ladies on this board. The MC/loss board is also a wonderful place for us. @AL_TwinCities, thinking of you.
2. I switch between WTO and NTNP over the last two weeks. I am trying to be more chilled this year, I told myself I would NOT let ttc consume my life (which it did last year). DH and I are planning an international trip/best friends wedding in South America in early Nov, conceiving over the next couple of months would not be optimal, but I am not preventing so you never know. I will let life take its course.
3. I am a Texan and cowboy (more DH), so they are both out (or never in)! Looking forward to the commercials!
******TW******Siggy warning BFP1 04/24/2015 EDD Dec 2015 MMC 10W5d; BFP 2 09/25/2015 EDD June 2016 MMC 9wks; BFP 3 03/22/2016 EDD Dec 6th 2016
@AL_TwinCities I'm thinking of you and how you are such a trooper in this long drawn out process. Hope you are feeling okay today.
@Aera11 and @KyCade3013 so sorry for your losses and to see you here; I feel you on the valuable TTC time...I've never been so brutally aware of the passage of days and weeks as I have been since TTC. I can't even remember what it's like to be oblivious to the details of my cycle. Ah the good old days.
H and I both 30 TTC #1 started Aug 2014 BFP Apr 3 2015 natural M/C April 20 2015 @ 6w6d BFP Nov 18 2015 natural M/C Nov 23 2015 @ 5w4d.
@KyCade3013 I know how you feel about the BMBs. My DH was about ready to ban me from the BMB before my MC. It seemed like everyday I'd log on to some sad new with another lady leaving the BMB. Or if not there would be someone needlessly all worried that something was wrong only to have it turn out to be fine. DH said I was always in a better mood and less worried before I checked the BMB for the day. We've agreed that if I get pregnant again I'll not do the BMB thing. Or at least not until the 2nd trimester when it's safer so I don't worry so much.
Me: 28 Husband: 31 TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016 Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
@NamelessAria and @KyCade3013 I'm glad it's not just me. Mine was an endless parade of "I guess it's time for me to leave" posts for the 1st 6 weeks. I totally respect those who ghosted.
I have to say though, that I think what offended me the most in retrospect were those that were ordering baby furniture and decorating their nurseries at 8 weeks, citing those stupid statistics about the chances of miscarriage after hearing the heartbeat (meanwhile no one knows where those numbers come from). The arrogant belief that miscarriages just couldn't happen to them was so offensive to me even before I knew I was miscarrying. I think I may end up having out in PGAL or P35 after I'm pregnant again. I will have a hard time with the 20-something invincibles.
@NamelessAria and @chloe97 - that's an interesting perspective - I never participated in my BMB because I found out I was pregnant at the end of a semester, so I was crazy busy with work and life. I think now that I've had a MC I'll likely stay away until the first trimester - and might end up on PGAL in the first trimester if I need somewhere to chat.
What are the other boards on thebump like - I'm sure they vary - but are they as receptive to scientific reasoning as this board seems to be? I love that about this group...
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@NamelessAria@chloe97@catiecatp Someone might have to create a closed invite-only TTCAL grad group for those of us who don't really want to move onto the drama of the BMBs!
@PeggyOlsonFTW - hopefully we'll move over on a similar time frame. I'm just starting to feel like I know y'all in some way, though I'm horrible with names - I'm recognizing most people by their html sigs (I'm hooped if y'all change them... and I should figure out how to make one this week, and find something I want to put in there other than a timeline... - and I'd like to change my picture but that is disabled at the moment (?)).
That said, as @MissPrint1219 says there is a PAL board - and perhaps we could use that, I'm sure we could create boards that suit our needs - and if others want to join in they could - but if that doesn't work out we could start a group.
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Thank you all so much for the kind words, support and sympathy. I'm sorry it took me so long to respond; I've been trying to put leaving my job out of my mind this week. After giving it some time, I definitely think I was being a bit rash, and as @FiancB noted, the depression definitely wanted to take the path of least resistance. I'm going to keep sticking it out at work for a while, and I do think I need to try to look into seeing a therapist. I need to check on what insurance will cover, but it will probably be worth it, regardless. I really appreciate that you all took the time to respond to me, and I'm grateful to have this community.
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TTC since May 2014.
Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d.
Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1).
AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR.
RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW.
Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Short LP (8 days).
Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
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@megsbrock Thank you! It was definitely a weird TWW for my second cycle after MC. My temperature seemed to drop a day or so early (haven’t been temping that long so can’t be positive, plus), but I was very nauseous and headachey, and like you said, I was very hopeful maybe they were pregnancy symptoms, but then AF hit hard. It didn’t seem like anything serious or problematic, just weird for me… but I will talk to the doctor about it during my appointment on Monday anyway. Hopefully my body continues to go back to it's regular thing soon so I know go back to knowing what to expect for AF!
@RiverSong15 Yay Steelers! Also, I know what you mean about that feeling of being destined for multiple MCs. Sounds like that’s a fear a lot of us have. (I know I do too!) It seems that although we know MC is a possibility from the start, we never seem to think it will happen to us, until it does. Then we’re faced realizing that pregnancy is not always the happy path we want it to be. It doesn't seem like we have any control over it, so like you said, I'm trying to be positive and look for a happy future!
@MissAmeliaPond Sorry you are having a rough time. Hope you’re able to feel at least a bit better soon!
Also, it’s exciting to see how many Whovians we have on this board! Love your names and pics!
MC #1: D&C Oct 23, 2015 (7.5 weeks)
MC #2: July 1, 2016 (5.5 weeks)
MC #3: October 17, 2016 (CP)
RE #1: RPL testing November 2016-January 2017
MC #4: Feb. 28, 2017 (CP)
RE #2: Additional RPL testing March-November 2017
MC #5: January 2019 (6.5 weeks)
RE #3: More testing 2023.
Egg Retrieval Sept/Oct 2023, 2 good embryos after PGT-A testing.
Surgery for endometriosis January 2024
Lupron Depo March 2024. Benched 3 months.
FET #1: June 3, 2024 (failed)
Lupron Depo June 2024. Benched 3 months again before next FET.
FET #2: September 2024 (failed)
FET #3: December 2024 (failed)
#BitterHagPartyOf1
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Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
If you decide to stay then perhaps you can find a way to cut yourself some slack. I'm sure you're doing the best you can at work. Maybe the best you can do right now isn't as good as your normal best. But that's just life. All you can do is your best, whatever that looks like at the time. After that you have to just know that you did what you could and try not to beat yourself up over it being less than what you wanted. If you had a coworker who had just had a loss in the family and he/she wasn't performing quite up to normal following the loss I'm sure you'd understand. I'm sure you wouldn't fault him/her for having a little trouble at work.
Wishing you all the best.
Here's a gif that usually makes me laugh:
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
@Cubslove12 That 20% number is pretty much anyone's chance on a single cycle. It's not related to your MC at all. Not extremely comforting, I know, but please don't stress about the MC affecting your chances.
@RiverSong15 I'm glad you're in a better emotional place this week!
@MissAmeliaPond I'm sorry you are going struggling right now. I agree with PPs. Don't let depression cloud your decision. I second the recommendation of therapy. Being able to let everything out is very freeing. I really struggled with depression clouding my judgement after our second MC. I put off going to therapy for months, but I was so glad for the release when I did finally go.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc)
TWW / 3 DPO
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs?
I'm not much on sports. I'll probably just pick a random team when it comes to the Superbowl.
GTKY Sorry to be boring but we don't watch football.
I also wanted to send everyone hugs and say I'm sorry I missed last week. I was so upset after my appointment and the resulting painful cytotec cramps that I did no bumping.
Eta: typo fixes
@m6agua Sorry for the awkward work party
@AmMcc12 Sorry about your dr reminding you of the U/S.
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc) Benched...NTNP3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I don't follow NFL*Questions* I hope this is ok. I don't want to start a new thread. 1.For those of you who have experienced a MC.....Did you count from your BFP to your first AF one cycle or how did you count it? 2. I know a few of you use EPO...did you check with your Dr before using? I don't notice much CM and would like to use it next cycle.
~Formerly @dogmomwantinghuman ~
TTC #1 since January 2015
BFP #1: 11/30/15| MC 12/16/15BFP # 2: 6/2/16 | EDD 2/16/17
I also used EPO for one cycle during my time TTCing DS. It majorly messed up my cycle. Like ovulating super early on like CD 9 or 10. I also noticed no benefit in terms of cervical mucus .If you are planning to use it I would do lots of reading. It can impact your estrogen levels which is why I never used it again. I have had the best luck with increasing CM by drinking green tea before ovulation and overall just drinking a TON of water every day. Also, checking for CM internally might give you a better indication of how "much" you have going on. Before doing this myself I thought I wasn't having much based just on external evidence, but in reality there was much more.
second of all, after both of my m/cs, I ovulated 2 weeks after HCG levels hit zero. So if I counted CD1 as the first day of bleeding, this put my ovulation at CD twenty something....however I think for me, CD1 would make more sense as the day HCG hits zero (or essentially zero, which I think they say is <5).
TTC #1 started Aug 2014
BFP Apr 3 2015
natural M/C April 20 2015 @ 6w6d
BFP Nov 18 2015
natural M/C Nov 23 2015 @ 5w4d.
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I dont really follow any sports but the Patriots always get my vote (new englander from the start)
@dogmomwantinghuman - I counted the first day of bleeding of my MC as CD1 - and I'll figure out how to exclude this cycle from FF at some point (I'm new to FF, I was using the one associated with TCOYF but I like the interface better with FF - at the moment I'm using both...). I think this cycle would likely be wonky regardless of where you put CD1 - and in terms of dating I'd go by temperatures and CM for pinpointing ovulation regardless, and my doctor says that unless I have 3-4 regular cycles we'll need to do a dating ultrasound...
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
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Thought I would ask here rather than starting a new thread. Last week my HCG levels were 3. My doctor considers that negative and didn't see any problems outside of possible dating issues with us TTC this month. My friend who had a MC with cytotech a few weeks before me had her HCG levels come in at 2 this week. Both of us had what we consider to be AFs last week and we're hoping to conceive this month. Her doctor advised her not to, while my doctor told us that we could. Is there any reason besides dating that conceiving with very minimal HCG levels could be bad? My friend seems to think that having any HCG in your system when you conceive increases your risk of MC, but I can't find that anywhere. I could email my dr too, but I thought I would start here before I went to my dr with 2ndhand advice.
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
2. Status (WTO, TWW, Benched, etc) WTO. Not sure if creamy or watery... can't an alarm just go off or something?
3. GTKY: Who are you rooting for (or against!) in the NFL playoffs? I don't care about football but as a native Oregonian, I'm happy to see the Seahawks win. I live in MN now so the Vikings are okay I guess, but between the two I'm happy the Seahawks beat them. And I like to see the Packers lose because then I know my ex is having a bad day XD
BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
@dogmomwantinghuman in my chart I counted the first day of bleeding as CD1 but in my head I kind of thought of it as being the day of my D&C.
@chloe97 I don't think there's really reason to worry. It's not that hCG raises the chance of another mc, it's that it could mean retained tissue but for both of you it's probably still just making its way down. Some doctors are just way more traditional and conservative than others. Mine didn't even bother checking. Over on TTGP TheBorg posted an article that suggests your chances of a take home baby are actually higher if you try again right away, might be worth looking at.
BFP #2 3/21 EDD 11/28/16
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
2. I found out last Tuesday that our baby no longer had a heartbeat at 10w2d. I will go in tomorrow for an ultrasound to double check and then I will have my D&C. Feeling a little nervous about it, but I think it will be okay. I am thankful this board exists so we can all support one another.
3. Right now, football is the last thing on my mind...
@AL_TwinCities hope you're doing ok! Thinking of you and sending hugs.
Thanks everyone for the positive thoughts. This week has been ridiculous. Started bleeding and cramping heavier Sunday afternoon, Monday afternoon/evening had strong cramping, Tuesday had 5 hours of painful contractions, Wednesday morning another 4 hours of contractions and then nothing the rest of the day. I know this isn't over and am so confused over the starting and stopping. Wtf. My doctor said I can keep waiting it out, just to keep an eye out for signs of infection. I'm ready for this to be over.
TTC since May 2014.
Aug 2014 BFP, EDD April 22, 2015. Low progesterone, started suppositories. Loss at 5w6d.
Nov 19, 2015 BFP at 13 dpo, EDD July 29, 2016. MMC discovered 12/29 (9+4). Natural miscarriage 1/16 (12+1).
AMH results 0.42, 1.2; FSH 12.1, AFC 10, dx DOR.
RPL testing results normal. Nurse recommended progesterone suppositories in TWW.
Clomid + trigger + TI cycle August 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Femara + trigger + TI cycle December 2016 - failed. Thin lining.
Short LP (8 days).
Acupuncture & Chinese herbs starting January 2017, lengthened LP to 10 days
Summer 2016 LFAF awards:
Winter 2016/2017 LFAF awards:
2. Benched. Had my D&C almost two weeks ago.. So 3 months in the toilet for the sadest reason and poor baby gone. Anyway, part of me wants to try because this can happen again so I'll just keep compounding the sadness, move forward, maybe switch to a doctor that gives a sh$t about me and I'm not getting any younger. The other half is terrified, play it safe, what the full two long a he$$ cycles. And see if I still have tragic miscarriage dust the 3rd cycle. I guess time will tell.
3. Not the patriots. I'm a Giants fan. Unfortunately we didn't make the playoffs this year to destroy their hopes and dreams because the Giants were terrible.
How long have you been TTC? Are your long cycles something your doctor is concerned with ? Good luck moving forward, and sorry you have to be here with us, but it is a good supportive board.
2. I switch between WTO and NTNP over the last two weeks. I am trying to be more chilled this year, I told myself I would NOT let ttc consume my life (which it did last year). DH and I are planning an international trip/best friends wedding in South America in early Nov, conceiving over the next couple of months would not be optimal, but I am not preventing so you never know. I will let life take its course.
3. I am a Texan and cowboy (more DH), so they are both out (or never in)! Looking forward to the commercials!
BFP1 04/24/2015 EDD Dec 2015 MMC 10W5d;
BFP 2 09/25/2015 EDD June 2016 MMC 9wks;
BFP 3 03/22/2016 EDD Dec 6th 2016
@Aera11 and @KyCade3013 so sorry for your losses and to see you here; I feel you on the valuable TTC time...I've never been so brutally aware of the passage of days and weeks as I have been since TTC. I can't even remember what it's like to be oblivious to the details of my cycle. Ah the good old days.
TTC #1 started Aug 2014
BFP Apr 3 2015
natural M/C April 20 2015 @ 6w6d
BFP Nov 18 2015
natural M/C Nov 23 2015 @ 5w4d.
@KyCade3013 I know how you feel about the BMBs. My DH was about ready to ban me from the BMB before my MC. It seemed like everyday I'd log on to some sad new with another lady leaving the BMB. Or if not there would be someone needlessly all worried that something was wrong only to have it turn out to be fine. DH said I was always in a better mood and less worried before I checked the BMB for the day. We've agreed that if I get pregnant again I'll not do the BMB thing. Or at least not until the 2nd trimester when it's safer so I don't worry so much.
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
I have to say though, that I think what offended me the most in retrospect were those that were ordering baby furniture and decorating their nurseries at 8 weeks, citing those stupid statistics about the chances of miscarriage after hearing the heartbeat (meanwhile no one knows where those numbers come from). The arrogant belief that miscarriages just couldn't happen to them was so offensive to me even before I knew I was miscarrying. I think I may end up having out in PGAL or P35 after I'm pregnant again. I will have a hard time with the 20-something invincibles.
What are the other boards on thebump like - I'm sure they vary - but are they as receptive to scientific reasoning as this board seems to be? I love that about this group...
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
LFAF April Siggy: TV/Movie BFFs
BFP #4 1/2016, DD born 10/2016
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Me: 40 DH: 39
Married 12.19.13
BFP #1 1/14, MC 2/14 (6wks)
BFP #2 1/15, MMC/D&C 3/15 (12wks)
BFP #3 6/15, MC 8/15 (9wks)
BFP #4 4/16, MC 4/16 (5wks)
BFP #5 7/16, MMC 8/16 (10 wks)
BFP #6 3/4 , EDD 11/9/17
That said, as @MissPrint1219 says there is a PAL board - and perhaps we could use that, I'm sure we could create boards that suit our needs - and if others want to join in they could - but if that doesn't work out we could start a group.
Me: 33 & DH: 33
Married: 07/2006
TTC: 10/2015
BFP #1: 11/2015, MC 12/2015 (7 weeks)
BFP #2: 06/2016, EDD 2/15/2017
Thank you all so much for the kind words, support and sympathy. I'm sorry it took me so long to respond; I've been trying to put leaving my job out of my mind this week. After giving it some time, I definitely think I was being a bit rash, and as @FiancB noted, the depression definitely wanted to take the path of least resistance. I'm going to keep sticking it out at work for a while, and I do think I need to try to look into seeing a therapist. I need to check on what insurance will cover, but it will probably be worth it, regardless. I really appreciate that you all took the time to respond to me, and I'm grateful to have this community.