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NATURAL BIRTH (non medicated) Young women . (im 18)

ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
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this will be my first baby and im 22 weeks and 5 days.... im planning a a non medicated birth. im only 18 years old and so terrified by the videos iv watched on youtube. i would love so advise from moms . i REALLY want to do this birth natural. and everyone i tell this too a=says yeahhh right wait till you feel that pain . and all that negative stuff. 
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  • BrittaDJBrittaDJ member
    AmadorRose said:

    More power to you if you can, but if you can't handle the pressure on your bladder, round ligament pains of pregnancy, and watching YouTube videos, I seriously have doubts as to whether or not you are mentally prepared to push a Saint Bernard through your cat door.

    For the love of all that is holy, use the search function. I hope you have a happy, healthy pregnancy.

    I *heart* you.
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  • sarahuflsarahufl member
    Are you just bored tonight?
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  • BreannaaaMarieeeBreannaaaMarieee member
    edited December 2015
    Wow, after working all day and getting off to posts like these have made me forget my longgggg day. You guys are great lol.
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
    clearly im having tech issues on my laptop ! LOL thank you for the comment but if its not helpful please just keep it to yourself! Thanks @imrachella
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  • AmadorRoseAmadorRose member
    If you're looking for helpful, I'll also add that a close friend of mine tore from vagina to asshole when she gave birth to her son at age 17. I suggest you not allow the nurses to put a mirror at your rear because childbirth is disgusting to watch.

    Sorry about your butt.
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  • AmadorRoseAmadorRose member
    imrachellea said:

    There really is no need to give us the full run down every post you make. And also, grammar and spelling. I have 6th grade students that express themselves better in writing then you are currently doing.

    This was very helpful for me. I like to keep up on board etiquette, though, because I like to think that I'm relatively respectful of other people.
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
    lmao!! that was totally on purpose right....? @kalanieileen
    and i do disagree with @AmadorRose just because it is a bit nerve racking to me to see what other women experience doesnt mean i wont be able to handle delivering my baby naturally. LOL thats a bit negative. How did u feel when u had ur first baby . was it natural!? and i find everything a bit harder since my mother passed when i was 15 and i wont have that MUCH needed support during the birth of my son :( . Now im 18 and i believe young women who do have there mother there will be alot less frightened! With the support and knowledge their mothers have to calm them with
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
    OH yes i agree that sometimes OUR mothers may not be the best support system as they should be, and i am not at all one to encourage you or anyone eles who still does have their mother to push aside all the stuff she has done to you or anyone one eles.... BUT i can assure you. i repeat i CAN ASSURE you that once shes gone any and EVERYTHING she may have done to hurt you or whatever will fly away in the wind and all you will think about too is how u wish u would have forgiven her while she was still here... as i already said i cannot convince you of anything you dont already know. but if someone would have encouraged me before my mother left i believe it would have helped me. it does hurt me to see u say u have no desire to have ur mother in the delivery room. if she is still alive anyways. I didnt bother to "lurk" anyone else since i just got on here today and the majority of people were very rude to me. for those who havent been i am able to acknowledge that. I am deeply sorry for those who dont have their mothers anymore either. But my comment was aimed directly toward those who still have their moms and dont utilize their blessings. it is truly a luxury, and i guess know one will ever know untill they lose their mothers. i know i didnt learn until she was already gone and it was too late to push aside all the bad things. @AmadorRose
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  • jasmineahendersonjasmineahenderson member
    You can plan on an unmedicated birth I'd just be open when you get to the hospital. I planned on an in medicated birth but I needed an emergency C-section. You don't really get an option then and the downside was they were going to knock me out for my C-section because I hadn't had any drugs. Luckily baby's heart rate went up long enough that they could give me a spinal tap so I could be awake for the birth of my son.
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  • ladylolly89ladylolly89 member
    I have a wonderful relationship with my mother, and she's still not going to be in the delivery room with me. It's going to be (a comparatively private) time with my husband and necessary medical professionals.

    However, according to the "under 25 board" in second trimester, I'm no longer a young woman, so apparently I don't need support and comfort anyway.
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    ladylolly89 said:

    I have a wonderful relationship with my mother, and she's still not going to be in the delivery room with me. It's going to be (a comparatively private) time with my husband and necessary medical professionals.

    However, according to the "under 25 board" in second trimester, I'm no longer a young woman, so apparently I don't need support and comfort anyway.

    I'm a "young woman" (24), have a functional relationship with my mother on most days, and still would not consider having her there. One of my sisters asked her once, and she said no because that should be a special time for mom, dad, and baby. She's had her children and now she just wants to be a grandma.
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  • imrachelleaimrachellea member
    edited December 2015
    Ok I'll try to be helpful. This is my second baby. I planned to go natural with my first, didn't happen, I was induced, epidural, but vaginal birth. I'm planning to try again with this baby, having done more research, including textbooks on birth and the entire process of it (you can always learn even if you've done it before). But things happen and even the best plans can go out the window. Also, my mom and I have a great relationship, always have, but she won't be involved in the birth process aside from being told I'm in labor. You do not need your mother to have a great birth experience.
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  • Poppy16Poppy16 member
    Check out this book, Ina May's Guide to Childbirth. It's full of empowering stories about women (of all ages, from very young women to 40s) going through natural birth. It's helpful because it has all different stories, and no 2 labors are the same. Once you realize that people have been doing it for centuries, and you learn the mechanics of it, a lot of the mystery, and thus fear, is removed. 

    It's likely your local library has it. If not, it's worth buying.
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  • olivemommaolivemomma member
    OP, may I ask why you are against the idea of a medicated birth? there are just as many arguments out there for an epidural as against one. If you really want to go natural, for goodness sakes stop watching YouTube videos and enroll yourself in a proper birthing class and read up on natural birth from credible sources. Arm yourself with knowledge so you can be as prepared as possible and be flexible in that you still may need some medicated help. Also, listen to real stories from women who have gone through this. This will be my second baby and I luckily carried to term and went into labor naturally with my first. Unless you have undergone something really traumatic physically before, there is not much out there that can prepare you for the pain of childbirth. It's intense, it's long, and it will drain everything out of you. By the time I got my epidural I had labored for over 12 hours, was having contractions every 90 seconds that were almost a minute in length, and was only halfway dilated. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. An epidural was the most amazing thing that could have happened and it allowed me to relax and actually enjoy the second half of my labor. To each their own but do your research and be honest with yourself about what you can handle.
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
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    OH yes i agree that sometimes OUR mothers may not be the best support system as they should be, and i am not at all one to encourage you or anyone eles who still does have their mother to push aside all the stuff she has done to you or anyone one eles.... BUT i can assure you. i repeat i CAN ASSURE you that once shes gone any and EVERYTHING she may have done to hurt you or whatever will fly away in the wind and all you will think about too is how u wish u would have forgiven her while she was still here... as i already said i cannot convince you of anything you dont already know. but if someone would have encouraged me before my mother left i believe it would have helped me. it does hurt me to see u say u have no desire to have ur mother in the delivery room. if she is still alive anyways. I didnt bother to "lurk" anyone else since i just got on here today and the majority of people were very rude to me. for those who havent been i am able to acknowledge that. I am deeply sorry for those who dont have their mothers anymore either. But my comment was aimed directly toward those who still have their moms and dont utilize their blessings. it is truly a luxury, and i guess know one will ever know untill they lose their mothers. i know i didnt learn until she was already gone and it was too late to push aside all the bad things. @AmadorRose
    Well that's presumptuous as fuck. I'd rather eat glass than have my mother anywhere in the same state when I give birth. And at least once she's gone I won't have to keep worrying that she'll find my new address and start harassing me again. I'm already worried my dad (who has been divorced from her and barely civil for almost my entire life) will tell her when I go into labor and bring her with him out of some sense of misguided obligation. Don't presume to know other people's lives or situations. Some people's mothers are horrifically abusive and don't deserve another chance.
    honey, u should read what iv said again because i clearly stated that EVERYONE is different along with their mothers, and u will never TRULY understand what im explaining to u until it happens to u personally . My mother was a crack head who abandon me and my little brother in a crack house in detroit when i was 6 and i didnt see her till i was 13, then she passed 2 years later, and a whole lot of other bad shit happen too, iv had it bad to from sexual abuse, to physical and a hell of alot of mental abuse as well. NOW i dont no what you have been through and i by KNOW means am on to say u havent been through more than me with mother bull cramp, but i can assure u that it will all fly away like a piece of paper in the wind once she is gone..... if u wont believe me now, i again CAN ASSURE you , you will remember what iv said once u see her in a funeral home, please dont take this offensive im just telling u what i experienced and the way i feel now for NOT being the bigger person before she left. Something that is SOOOOO true no matter what the circumstance is EVERYONE deserves another chance, i dont know if u believe in GOD but he gives you a second and third and forth, fifth, etc, chance EVERAYDAY!!!!!!! everyday you do wrong , and to him no one sin is worse than the other , for instance cussing is the same as murder in HIS eyes, yess to us we would say yeahh right but i Know this for a fact. Anyways i wish u the best of luck with ur mother and everything 
    ladylolly89 said:
    I have a wonderful relationship with my mother, and she's still not going to be in the delivery room with me. It's going to be (a comparatively private) time with my husband and necessary medical professionals. However, according to the "under 25 board" in second trimester, I'm no longer a young woman, so apparently I don't need support and comfort anyway.

    Knottie9983816 said:
    @ILoveBabies2015 I'm choosing to not have my mother in the room either. She stresses me out, and makes me feel like I'm less of a person. Guess I should reconsider utilizing that luxury, and keep hoping she'll magically be the woman I've always needed her to be during my magical birthing hour! You are going to get crap on this board (and every other board) if you don't learn how to ingratiate yourself with the locals. You've posted a few times on here with new threads, and both of them were posted without any consideration of using the search bar (we love the search bar, and directing people to it) and you've not done anything to correct your grammar/spelling errors. For the most part the users here are adults, and we prefer to speak to each other as adults, meaning not using insultingly poor grammatical errors repeatedly. If you want to keep posting go about it the accepted way. Make sure no one has already addressed your topic. If they have, comment on the original post. If they haven't, make a thread and introduce yourself. It wouldn't hurt to post on the other threads as well to contribute to the rest of the conversations we have daily either.

    imrachellea said:
    Ok I'll try to be helpful. This is my second baby. I planned to go natural with my first, didn't happen, I was induced, epidural, but vaginal birth. I'm planning to try again with this baby, having done more research, including textbooks on birth and the entire process of it (you can always learn even if you've done it before). But things happen and even the best plans can go out the window. Also, my mom and I have a great relationship, always have, but she won't be involved in the birth process aside from being told I'm in labor. You do not need your mother to have a great birth experience.
    again EVERYONE is different as well as our values in life, but im telling you ALLLLLL once shes gone, and if u were to have another baby or whatever, you will WISH and dwell on how much u would want her there, U dont need her, ofcourse i feel we dont need anyone but God himself, but u will want that feeling so badly. im not judging anyone at all so please just take this as help from a young women who lost her mom at 15 and how is 18 , im telling u its so important to forgive EVERYONE no matter what they have done, NOT for them , BUT FOR YOURSELF, grudges WILLLLLLLL make u physically sick, i tell you this as a fact, and IF you believe in god then that is who u work with to forgive those who have sinned against you. not the person themselves, and one day you can be at peace, a better person, a better mother and or wife, and just more sane all together. i hope this helps, its TRULY not to hurt AT ALL!!!!
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    olivemomma said:
    OP, may I ask why you are against the idea of a medicated birth? there are just as many arguments out there for an epidural as against one. If you really want to go natural, for goodness sakes stop watching YouTube videos and enroll yourself in a proper birthing class and read up on natural birth from credible sources. Arm yourself with knowledge so you can be as prepared as possible and be flexible in that you still may need some medicated help. Also, listen to real stories from women who have gone through this. This will be my second baby and I luckily carried to term and went into labor naturally with my first. Unless you have undergone something really traumatic physically before, there is not much out there that can prepare you for the pain of childbirth. It's intense, it's long, and it will drain everything out of you. By the time I got my epidural I had labored for over 12 hours, was having contractions every 90 seconds that were almost a minute in length, and was only halfway dilated. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. An epidural was the most amazing thing that could have happened and it allowed me to relax and actually enjoy the second half of my labor. To each their own but do your research and be honest with yourself about what you can handle.
    im not really against it, its just something that i want to accomplish and say i endured through this the REAL way without drugs and if i have to end up getting medicated for whatever reason i wont be mad its basically the reason every other mom who wants a natural birth does, i AM very aware of the damage a epidural WILL do to our bodies down the line , (our back) i dont know if u felt it yet or not its more of a long term effect and it is horrible back problems you will experience for THE REST of your life, and i just dont feel its worth it compared to a birth even if the birth continues for days , i feel our bodies as women are meant to give birth natually by the grace of God , of course there are some exclusions that call for it such as emergency c-section and alot of other scary complications that save the babies life. but overall our bodies are meant to endure child labor and survive through it as well without horrible drugs that will effect you down the fine.... thats my reason for why, and i have started birthing classes a couple months ago actually thanks for the advise,
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    olivemomma said:
    ilovebabies101 said:
    olivemomma said:
    OP, may I ask why you are against the idea of a medicated birth? there are just as many arguments out there for an epidural as against one. If you really want to go natural, for goodness sakes stop watching YouTube videos and enroll yourself in a proper birthing class and read up on natural birth from credible sources. Arm yourself with knowledge so you can be as prepared as possible and be flexible in that you still may need some medicated help. Also, listen to real stories from women who have gone through this. This will be my second baby and I luckily carried to term and went into labor naturally with my first. Unless you have undergone something really traumatic physically before, there is not much out there that can prepare you for the pain of childbirth. It's intense, it's long, and it will drain everything out of you. By the time I got my epidural I had labored for over 12 hours, was having contractions every 90 seconds that were almost a minute in length, and was only halfway dilated. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. An epidural was the most amazing thing that could have happened and it allowed me to relax and actually enjoy the second half of my labor. To each their own but do your research and be honest with yourself about what you can handle.
    im not really against it, its just something that i want to accomplish and say i endured through this the REAL way without drugs and if i have to end up getting medicated for whatever reason i wont be mad its basically the reason every other mom who wants a natural birth does, i AM very aware of the damage a epidural WILL do to our bodies down the line , (our back) i dont know if u felt it yet or not its more of a long term effect and it is horrible back problems you will experience for THE REST of your life, and i just dont feel its worth it compared to a birth even if the birth continues for days , i feel our bodies as women are meant to give birth natually by the grace of God , of course there are some exclusions that call for it such as emergency c-section and alot of other scary complications that save the babies life. but overall our bodies are meant to endure child labor and survive through it as well without horrible drugs that will effect you down the fine.... thats my reason for why, and i have started birthing classes a couple months ago actually thanks for the advise,

    I would be interested to know where you got this information on an epidural giving you lifelong back problems. I ask because I have heard many reasons in my time both for and against an epidural and I have not once heard this argument. Futhoremore, I have good friends in the medical field, one is an anesthesiologist who actually performs epidurals and the other a spinal surgeon who obviously deals with chronic back pain. I have never heard from either a connection between an epidural and chronic back pain later in life. Is your claim actually supported by solid medical research from a reliable source? I give any woman who can actually labor without any drugs major props and if you can do it I will have great respect for you. However, I personally only know one woman who has successfully delivered vaginally without drugs and it was because she labored so quickly by the time she arrived at the hospital there wasn't time. I'm in my 30s so know scores of women with children, many well intentioned to not get any help along the way and all ended up with some kind of intervention. Either way, good luck to you on your pregnancy. It seems you have many issues bothering you already during what is probably the easiest phase of pregnancy so you are in for a real treat once the actual show begins.
    doing just a simple google search will tell you that it infact there are many problems associated with epidual. heres something from a doctors site..... Epidural anesthesia is administered through a catheter in the back to provide pain relief during labor and delivery. Many women find this a less stressful way to give birth. However, some possible long-term side effects are associated with receiving an epidural. As with all invasive medical procedures, patients should be aware of the potential risks before opting for the procedure.

    Spinal Headaches and Pain

    Patients who receive an epidural often have headaches that can vary from mild to severe in nature. According to MayoClinic.com, this occurs during epidural administration when the postdural area is punctured and spinal fluid leaks. Headaches may persist for hours, days, weeks or in intervals. However, a spinal headache usually dissipates on its own. Patients with painful and persistent headaches should contact a doctor for medical treatment.

    Postpartum Bladder Dysfunction


     Hypotension

    Hypotension is a sudden decrease in blood pressure. It is a long-term side effect associated with epidruals, reports the American Pregnancy Association. When a pregnant woman's blood pressure drops, an insufficient amount of oxygen is available to the fetus. In addition, it can cause a blood supply reduction to the placenta, which may warrant a C-section if the baby becomes distressed. After delivery, patients may continue to suffer from hypotension. Typically, doctors will prescribe medication or treatment to combat this problem.

    Medline Plus, an online resource of the National Institutes of Health, reports that some women experience urinary tract infections as a result of catheter use during the labor process. In addition, other women may experience loss of bladder control functions for an undetermined amount of time. This is due to numbed pelvic floor muscles that strain during epidural administration. Bladder symptoms usually disappear as the epidural anesthetics clears the body. Patients with continued bladder problems should contact a physician for consultation and treatment.

     ***** Spinal pain is another long-term effect in epidural patients. Since an epidural is administered in the spine and nerves are punctured, pain develops as the affected nerve areas begin the recovery phase. Patients who suffer from severe side effects should contact a doctor immediately.




    you should have done ur research before considering the procedure as well like the doctor stongly encourages, im glad we talked about this because i just learned some new side effects that i DO NOT want to deal with, which is more of the reason why i am AGAINST it.
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  • cmjenkiescmjenkies member
    edited December 2015
    I've actually heard some complaints about back pain post labor that women 'associate' with an epi. However, @olivemomma here's a study (albeit from 1994) which finds no statistical significance between new onset back pain following childbirth and epidural placement. They actually USE epidural infusions as a non-surgical option to treat back pain.

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8042807/
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
    they use those treatments for temporary relief! your back wont stop hurting forever , which means long term effects will be even worse, my chiropractor has told me this as well as a back doctor who strongly encouraged me not to get a epidural for my spinal healths sake, it has been proven that the powerful drug will do LONG TERM damage to our bodies, @cmjenkies
     and that study is out o date, they have added more chemicals to the shot since then. it makes sense getting drugs plunged into ur spine for temporary relief is going to come back much worse later... theres plenty of women who complain about their back years after there injections. Just not worth it :)
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  • cmjenkiescmjenkies member
    @ilovebabies101 I know that the study is out of date. However, there is no recently published scientific evidence suggesting anything to the contrary. It's all anecdotal. I have a long history of back pain, completely unrelated to my epidural from my first L&D experience. It is likely that the drugs may have changed in the last 20 years, but one would think that advances in medicine would make them safer/more effective if that is the case.

    To each their own, just know it's not a blanket statement that can be made for everybody.
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    AmadorRose said:
    Are you suggesting that women who push a watermelon-sized human being out of their vaginas with assistance from an epidural or who have their abdominal wall sliced open while the are under anesthesia in order to bring their children into this world safely aren't doing it "the real way"? There are many valid points both for and against epidurals. Are you also against the modern medicinal miracle of vaccinations because it could give your kid autism?

    sarahufl said:
    Too lazy to quote, but are you aware that basically any medical procedure you ever have and basically any drug/medication you will ever ingest *may* have long term consequences. That warning is basically required if it has happened to ANYONE, no matter how slim the chances.

    Don't go around talking about how women who have an epidural aren't doing it the "real way" and will consequently have horrible back problems FOREVER. Sure, it is a risk, but childbirth carries TONS of risks. So, so, so many of them. Hell, my first pregnancy cost me a fallopian tube, talk about irreversible damage to my body. But you don't see people avoiding pregnancy because of it- why? Ectopics only occur in about 1% of pregnancies. I decided it was worth the risk to go for it.

    You come off as sounding not only incredibly uneducated, but really judgmental. 
    you women should know what i mean when i say the real way, im sorry if that made u feel less of a women i should say the natural way which is the real way, and again im not bashing anyone, im ONLY saying why i dont want a epidural which is a question someone asked me about. you are both totally off topic, i am very educated on this subject since talking with plenty of doctors and midwifes who ALWAYS encourage you to give birth naturally , but everyone is not the same and those who have gotten the shot are no less of a women so you both take my comments very wrong, GOD has created us to endure through the pain of labor Naturally, if u cannot handle it thats how u deal with it and u still are the same as women who are stong enough to endure through the pain because u still gave birth to a baby! just like some people judge women who got a c-section and say they arent real women for this, which i TOTALLY DISAGREE with because sometimes there is no other choice, even for those who do plan a c-section they still had a baby and are still mothers, the most beautiful creation in the world next to the babies. @sarahufl as for you please stop getting offended, and taking my comments out of context, i am extremely educated on this subject and am just giving my opinion, as well as things doctors have made me aware of... 
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    Knottie9983816 said:
    Are you suggesting that women who push a watermelon-sized human being out of their vaginas with assistance from an epidural or who have their abdominal wall sliced open while the are under anesthesia in order to bring their children into this world safely aren't doing it "the real way"? There are many valid points both for and against epidurals. Are you also against the modern medicinal miracle of vaccinations because it could give your kid autism?
    That's how I read her response. I am planning on having a non medicated birth, and know several women who have done as such, but OMG how can you tell any woman who has gone through a pregnancy, and any sort of labor she didn't do it right? I'm sickened by your ignorant rhetoric @ILoveBabies2015
    what are u talking about???? i NEVER said that someone didnt go through it, u should read my comment because i clearly said every women who has given birth weather it was naturally, medicated, or c-section are all the same Women and are all very strong women for doing so! im not against others getting medicated simply because everyone handles pain very differently , all iv said is GOD has created all of us women to endure through child labor NATURALLY. if women did it back in the day, who says we cannot do it now! you should totally think about what u say before u say it, that girl was very mislead by my comment and those words were NEVER typed on my comment saying a women is and less than another for going with medicine, we are ALL the same MOTHERS of children we gave birth to regardless of the way . id really appreciate it if u wouldnt call me ignorant because im very smart , and all that name calling is un called for, just reflect on my comments and maybe what u said will be invalid :) thanks. PS lets keep it positive ladies , just a normal discussion 
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  • ilovebabies101ilovebabies101 member
    @jonesl12 i never asked ANY questions, i just wanted to hear what other women have experienced with those topics, im confused also.. all i wanted to know was what others are going through at this point in pregnancy and how they deal with it, trapped urine can be very dangerous and will need to be drained at a hospital , every women is different so what i may experience and what u have might  not hold the same dangers . ALL i have u do it talk to a doctor of osteopathic medicine, he or she can explain to you the simple facts that you honestly should know about epidurals, even doing a basic google search will give u the simple answer tp the simple fact, which is epidurals will cause a series of long term effects, not nearly as many as just child birth. :)
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  • olivemommaolivemomma member
    im actually intrigued by how this will end up for you op. I'm guessing there is a 99% chance you give in - come back in April and let us know
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