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Am I wrong to be upset? (Grandparents taking over!!)

edited November 2015 in April 2016 Moms
I know I said we were gonna need all the help we could get, but I meant financially.
This is the only child I'm going to get to have, and I'm not even going to get to get anything I wanted to get her. I know it's selfish, but we told the grandparents over and over "We have this picked out, we're going to go with this", but they went and bought literally everything without consulting us first. And they're not even doing it like, "Oh, we got you this gift for the baby!", it's literally, "So we bought this today."
I know it's selfish and I should be grateful, but it makes me want to cry that I don't get to do all these things for my child and be excited about getting these things because someone else has already.
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  • Wait. Your depending on them financially and your mad they didn't buy you what you want? Yea that's selfish and ungrateful.
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  • Wait. Your depending on them financially and your mad they didn't buy you what you want? Yea that's selfish and ungrateful.

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    It sounds like OP just had very specific expectations of what she wanted for her LO, and feels frustrated that it isn't planning out to be the way she intended...? I'm not sure.

    But @Pinguinageddon may I ask why you said this is the only child you are going to be able to have? If I missed one of your posts about it I'm so sorry!

    If this is going to be your only child, I can understand you wanting things a certain way and feeling like you're going to miss out if it's not done accordingly. But that being said, maybe explain to the grandparents why it's so important to you etc

    Sounds like they are trying to be helpful and not hurtful. But like @AmadorRose said, I'm not able to relate as much because 1) my family is whatever about me being pregnant and 2) I'm not really a picky person. I just care if my son is clothed and fed and washed.

    Again, just talk to your family and come to a happy medium, especially if they are helping you out financially already.
  • My only thought would be to 1. explain to them your feelings on the matter and 2. exchange for the items you're wanting? Or.. ask that you be allowed to join in on the shopping so you can share the experience?

    If you truly need 'all the help you can get,' then it is a bit rude to complain, but I understand how you feel as well about having certain things picked out for one reason or another. Good luck, mama!
  • I think you are projecting your frustration on to them. It sounds like you are frustrated that you aren't able to do things the way you'd like to in your ideal world. I think we can all empathize with that. I'd love to buy the beautiful $1,000 crib from land of nod, but it would be financially very irresponsible for me to do that, so instead I'll buy the $140 one. What I'm trying to say is, it's understandable to be frustrated that you aren't getting to do things your way. But ultimately, if you are depending on someone else for financial support, you are giving up that control, and yes, you should be grateful that they are able and willing to provide that, period (assuming it's a preference thing and not a safety thing).
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  • I think it's perfectly understandable to be disappointed about not getting to pick out the baby items you want. It sounds like you are aware of all the help you are getting and are grateful for it, so experiencing a little disappointment sounds normal to me. I don't think you should express this disappointment to your family as you make it sound like you need this help. Maybe ask to go shopping together next time so you can have some input on what is bought? Or personalize some items in the baby room so you feel more connected to them, like adding a quote or mural to a dresser or a wall or embroidering a favorite quote on one of the baby blanket (if you're crafty).
  • edited November 2015
    @BebeOnBoard We're not depending on them financially in the slightest. We're both working two jobs full time to support ourselves and the baby. We were worried at the beginning, however, because I was very sick, and I expressed concern in a previous post that I wouldn't be able to afford things I needed.

    @AmadorRose I'm sorry about your family. :/
    My biggest concern currently is the fact she bought a car seat that was already two years old used without consulting us first-- even though we had told her earlier that same week we'd found a (new) carseat/stroller set we wanted to get.

    @kalanieileen I actually don't know if I've said anything about it specifically, but I've had two miscarriages previously and spent my 2nd-4.5 months in the ER due to so many different complications my body's had with being pregnant, that all of my doctors have told me I shouldn't do this again, that it's a miracle this one even exists, and that for my health I need to get my tubes tied or something similar.
    So.

    @AEG84 for the sake of clarification, I'll reiterate what I just said above in this same comment: I'm not relying on them financially, and actually have the money and plans to go get the items I needed for baby. I'm not looking to set up a nursery or get anything fancy. Growing up in a large family, I learned to always look for the best deals. But the MIL, who currently isn't even living ANYWHERE nearby (she normally does, she just went to stay in the states for a few months and is sending everything from there), went and bought a ton of items we asked her not to, which is another reason why I'm so upset.

    She's treating this baby as if it's her own, and has tried to take over everything, including naming her. It's just starting to feel a bit ridiculous.
    (Also with the purchase of this carseat it has officially become an issue of safety.)
  • I feel like I shouldn't be upset, because "Yay! Free stuff! Always good." but damn.
  • @BebeOnBoard We're not depending on them financially in the slightest. We're both working two jobs full time to support ourselves and the baby. We were worried at the beginning, however, because I was very sick, and I expressed concern in a previous post that I wouldn't be able to afford things I needed.

    @AmadorRose I'm sorry about your family. :/
    My biggest concern currently is the fact she bought a car seat that was already two years old used without consulting us first-- even though we had told her earlier that same week we'd found a (new) carseat/stroller set we wanted to get.

    @kalanieileen I actually don't know if I've said anything about it specifically, but I've had two miscarriages previously and spent my 2nd-4.5 months in the ER due to so many different complications my body's had with being pregnant, that all of my doctors have told me I shouldn't do this again, that it's a miracle this one even exists, and that for my health I need to get my tubes tied or something similar.
    So.

    @AEG84 for the sake of clarification, I'll reiterate what I just said above in this same comment: I'm not relying on them financially, and actually have the money and plans to go get the items I needed for baby. I'm not looking to set up a nursery or get anything fancy. Growing up in a large family, I learned to always look for the best deals. But the MIL, who currently isn't even living ANYWHERE nearby (she normally does, she just went to stay in the states for a few months and is sending everything from there), went and bought a ton of items we asked her not to, which is another reason why I'm so upset.

    She's treating this baby as if it's her own, and has tried to take over everything, including naming her. It's just starting to feel a bit ridiculous.
    (Also with the purchase of this carseat it has officially become an issue of safety.)

    I'm sorry to hear about the complications you've had so far! Wishing you a healthy rest of your pregnancy.

    I guess we responded the way we did because your original post made it seem like you were depending on them financially. And you were vague on the whys you were upset about them buying things ie the safety of the items. I would be upset if someone bought my child I didn't think was safe.
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    Yeaaah, I'm really bad at initially saying what I'm trying to say. Whenever I go into interviews, I have to prompt them with questions so I can figure out exactly what I need to say xD
    (Also thank you things seem to be improving so I'm definitely hopeful!)
  • Ahhhh, I see. I also interpreted your initial post as relying on them financially. Buying unsafe things you don't want is another story. Idk if I would be upset about it, but I'd certainly make it clear that I wouldn't be using items like that, and why. For other items they buy that are not your preference, I would return/exchange what you can, keep what you don't mind, and resell what you can't return. I probably wouldn't say anything to them directly other than "oh, thank you for thinking of us, but we're actually going with x", and that only depending on the situation. For the most part I think you just have to grin and bear it like with any gift.

    I hope all goes well for you this time around!
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  • I wouldn't be happy in this situation either... I had a particularly poor childhood, and whereas most people raised that way go into a "I'm grateful for whatever hell I can get" mode, I've always been the "if you aren't going to get me what I want, don't get me anything, so I can provide for myself" type. I understand you have a relationship to maintain with your family, so I can't really give you great advice... Maybe explain, again, why this is important to you, and express if they continue to defy your sentiments about YOUR child, their gifts will be gleefully donated to the nearest consignment shop?
  • Is there any way of returning items that she buys that you just dont like? Have you set up a registry for your baby? The old car seat sounds like a pretty bad idea. I totally get your frustration, I'm pretty picky about what I want. There are things I want to have look a certain way, and there are plenty of items that I just plain don't want as I don't think I would use them, they would just take up extra space, etc.

    Maybe before she brings or ships everything all the way to you could you ask her to send you pictures of each item with info about it to see if you would rather her return it (since it sounds like you are in different countries)?

    If you havent registered yet I would suggest getting started on that soon so you could send her your registry info if she wants to buy you more things.
  • I would tell them firmly that you appreciate their generosity, but you're not gong to use a used carseat because it's not safe. I think you need to sort of pick your battles. On the one hand, you need to learn to put your foot down now because it's your child and you're the mom. It's easy for boundaries to get blurred with grandparents, and it's important to set those boundaries and be consistent.

    On the flip side, if they are smaller gifts /it's less of a safety issue, sometimes I think you should be grateful (even if it's not something you'll use) and just take it with a smile.

    Good luck.
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  • This makes more sense now...one of my sisters suggested getting a used car seat and I shot that down very quickly because there's no way to have them tested. It's very possible that your MIL doesn't know what standards are now, as it was still acceptable for children in our generation to ride halfway across the country sitting on their siblings' laps (or was that just me?). If she does know and bought it anyway...well...I'd throw a shit fit and I'd make her feel awfully guilty about jeopardizing the safety of her grandchild. Sometimes I'm a drama queen - maybe you're a better person than I am ;)

    She may feel bad that she's away during your pregnancy and is buying things in an effort to comfort herself. In any case, if things are new they can be returned. If not, you can resell them (except the car seat) and use the money toward things that are safe/necessary. The suggestion above about shopping together mag be a good compromise, if you can grit your teeth through a few hours of quality time and you can be firm in telling her no.

    I'm cheap, so I'd smile and nod until my face went numb for the sake of free baby gear. At the end of the day, she's your daughter. And I hope that, with your health becoming more stable, more children become a possibility in the future if you want them. I'm also glad you haven't posted about being stuck in the hospital recently!

    Or hey, you could be conniving and tell her that she's overwhelming you with everything she's doing, which is frowned upon by your doctor. Because hey, stress is bad. Don't let her stress you out.
  • I agree with @pinottoparenthood about picking your battles. My mom tried to give me grief about the furniture, nursery theme, and carriers I chose, because they aren't her typical cup of tea for babies. I told her she can bloody well pick out whatever toys, blankets, and clothing she wants, and it seemed to make her feel better. Idk my mom has entitlement issues though...
  • As far as I know, she's gotten everything used, so I don't think I'd be able to return or trade anything.
    I'm sure we'll use everything (except the carseat) & be incredibly grateful.
    It just gets overwhelming sometimes and my husband doesn't seem to really understand, so I felt the need to voice my concern and hear input from other parents.
  • @Pinguinageddon I'd still take it to a consignment shop, and buy baby clothes.. But again, that's just me lol
  • I totally get the feeling of being overwhelmed and having it feel like some one else is hijacking your experience. I'm currently in the same situation with a family member.
    But, you mentioned that you are working two jobs? Maybe she is doing all this to help relieve stress in anyway she can?
    I've been struggling a little bit with gifts of items I think are pointless or are different than what my DH and I would choose for ourselves. I decided that since we can afford to purchase things for the baby ourselves that I don't need to stress much. I can still say thank you and set the item aside for if or when I may change my mind about it. Or I can give it to someone else in the future who may need it or wish for it.
  • edited November 2015
    My MIL was sort-of similar, but when she brought over the used car seat, I was pretty clear that they aren't safe because of potential accidents, etc. And she understandingly returned it. After that, she put herself in charge of designing the closet in the nursery (which was whatever) and that gave her a good outlet for her excitement that didn't clash with the safety of my child.
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  • While I think it's very nice that they are wanting to buy things for the baby, at the same time I can understand your frustration. can you maybe tell them that while you appreciate what they are doing, you have done a ton of research pre-selecting specific items that you feel are the safest and best for your baby and that you don't want to deviate from those items? Because, I can definitely understand your frustration with getting a used car seat as those are generally considered a big no-no. In situations like these it seems always best to just have a sit down with the person/people and tell it to them straight. Maybe you could take them to wherever you are registered and just show them some of the items you registered for so they feel like they're a part of it?
  • @Pinguinageddon I'd still take it to a consignment shop, and buy baby clothes.. But again, that's just me lol

    Can grandparents keep this stuff for their usage? I know we had to go out and grab a few extra car seats once DD was out of a bucket seat.
  • I was also irritated by some family members buying a bunch of stuff I didn't like/want for DD1 (in addition to the waste issue, I had to get everything from the U.S. to where I live in Asia). After complaining a bit I realized I just sounded ungrateful, so I said "thanks," and used/disposed of things as I saw fit. "Problem" solved and my nanny's similarly aged baby has a wardrobe a late middle-aged woman would adore.
  • edited November 2015
    dayzchic9 said:

    @Pinguinageddon I'd still take it to a consignment shop, and buy baby clothes.. But again, that's just me lol

    Can grandparents keep this stuff for their usage? I know we had to go out and grab a few extra car seats once DD was out of a bucket seat.
    See, that would actually be a great idea... Except that we live with her because she literally will not let us (edit: him... she won't let him... I'm allowed to go.) move to our own place. Which makes it even harder to just be like, "Oh, thank you for the stuff" and never use it again, lol
  • So far, we haven't had anything gifted to us for the LO but I'm just trying to finish construction on our house so that we actually have a place to put things. We decided last year, that this year we wouldn't exchange gifts over the holiday and I have a feeling that my sister and mother will still end up getting things for the baby. At least that is what I'm kind of hoping for. Any thing would be of help, and as long as it's safe I'd be happy. I felt kind of guilty getting upset with my grandmother over her Christmas present to my husband and I. Instead of getting any gifts for the family, she decided to buy goats, chickens and cows for villages in africa. She spent almost $900, which I think is very generous...but I still felt like that would have been extremely useful to our little family village lol. Is that terrible?  
  • thaisac1 said:
    @Pinguinageddon I'd still take it to a consignment shop, and buy baby clothes.. But again, that's just me lol
    Can grandparents keep this stuff for their usage? I know we had to go out and grab a few extra car seats once DD was out of a bucket seat.
    See, that would actually be a great idea... Except that we live with her because she literally will not let us (edit: him... she won't let him... I'm allowed to go.) move to our own place. Which makes it even harder to just be like, "Oh, thank you for the stuff" and never use it again, lol
    I'm sorry and I don't mean to come across rude, but this thread is confusing me. First you said you need all the help you could get financially, then you said you don't Depend on them at all... Then, you are both independent adults, are you not? If so, Why can't you move out of the in-laws house then, if this is getting on your nerves? No one should tie you down unless you are truly dependent on them - in which case, their house, their rules.
    Yep, pretty much this. I am also confused.

    OP- you say you are independent but it sounds like you.......are not...... Neither of our parents have bought us anything and we would be free to say no to whatever it was they chose to buy. Because we own our own house and pay all our  bills. However, I would expect that if we relied on either set of our parents in any way, I would follow their rules.
  • Sorry to hear about your situation.  I don't think it's at all unreasonable to be upset in this situation, but I do think you should consider getting out of it as soon as possible.  Your MIL sounds like she's very controlling and this power struggle is not going to go away until you leave her home, with or without your husband.  I do not agree with the whole "their house their rules" thing to the point where I think it is reasonable in any way for her to control your child's life as well as your husband's, but staying there does give her a certain degree of control and I think it's about time to get the heck out of there.

    Whatever you choose to do, good luck either way :)
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  • I didn't realize you were living with them.. That definitely changes the situation. My MIL is not necessarily over bearing but she is really nutty and VERY set in her way being the "right way".. I would never ever be able to live w them. We actually live 2 states away from them and that's close enough for me haha. not saying its right, but as long as you are living under their roof, they will most likely feel like they are afforded an opinion on your life/child. If you want full independence from your MIL you will most likely only get it once you move out of their home. I'm sorry, I wish I had better advise than that
  • I forgot this thread existed, omg.
    @thaisac1 and @sarahufl I moved in with my then-fiance (who still lived with his mother) so we wouldn't be flying halfway across the world to see each other every six months anymore. We pay half the rent, I pay the entire water bill, he pays part of electricity, and we both pay for gas.
    The thing about where we live is everything is really expensive, but pay is very cheap. We want to move out, but after paying bills every month, there isn't enough left over. I say we are independent of her because we pay all the bills, including the majority of hers.
  • I forgot this thread existed, omg. @thaisac1 and @sarahufl I moved in with my then-fiance (who still lived with his mother) so we wouldn't be flying halfway across the world to see each other every six months anymore. We pay half the rent, I pay the entire water bill, he pays part of electricity, and we both pay for gas. The thing about where we live is everything is really expensive, but pay is very cheap. We want to move out, but after paying bills every month, there isn't enough left over. I say we are independent of her because we pay all the bills, including the majority of hers.
    But you aren't really independent or else you would be living on your own.

    Look, no judgement, you have to do what you have to do. But if you were truly, actually independent, you and your FI would have a place of your own and this wouldn't be an issue.
  • I forgot this thread existed, omg.
    @thaisac1 and @sarahufl I moved in with my then-fiance (who still lived with his mother) so we wouldn't be flying halfway across the world to see each other every six months anymore. We pay half the rent, I pay the entire water bill, he pays part of electricity, and we both pay for gas.
    The thing about where we live is everything is really expensive, but pay is very cheap. We want to move out, but after paying bills every month, there isn't enough left over. I say we are independent of her because we pay all the bills, including the majority of hers.

    I understand your point of view but paying a portion of the utility bills does not equate financial independence. A mortgage or rent will cost a lot more than utility bills, then add on top of that maintenance costs, home insurance, food, furniture and so on. So based on your description, I'd say you guys are indeed financially dependent on the in laws, and if this is the case, it makes it really hard for you to find yourself in a position of choosing what kind of baby furniture you want or don't want... You should just be happy she is giving you something you may not otherwise be able to afford! I understand the frustration of the situation, but sounds like without your in laws help you guys would be in trouble, so just go with the flow...
  • Maybe you could save some of the money that you were going to spend on baby stuff and use it to help finance a move to your own apartment. You only need one bedroom because babies and toddlers can share with you. Also, the neighborhood doesn't really matter until kids are school age. 
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  • I think if you're under her roof, it can feel a little bit like you want this to be YOUR experience, and personal items that you and DH have chosen take on a special meaning. I can see where having a modge-podge nursery of items from grandparents that were not what you had asked for would be a little frustrating.

    However, so far the only real example I've seen has been the car seat. Since you have real logic behind not wanting to use that, I don't think that one is a big deal.

    You've mentioned in the thread you have difficulty conveying your own feelings, and that your MIL won't LET you move out. I think if you truly have the financial ability, this is all about personality here. You need to be able to stand up for yourself... Whether it be moving out or simply showing MIL your Pinterest board or registry and asking her to kind of stick with what you want, not what's in her head. If we're having so much trouble figuring this out on here, I'm sure she doesn't really know what's happening in your head either and just needs some help.

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    edited December 2015
    I know I said we were gonna need all the help we could get, but I meant financially.
    See, that would actually be a great idea... Except that we live with her because she literally will not let us (edit: him... she won't let him... I'm allowed to go.) move to our own place. Which makes it even harder to just be like, "Oh, thank you for the stuff" and never use it again, lol
    We pay half the rent, I pay the entire water bill, he pays part of electricity, and we both pay for gas. The thing about where we live is everything is really expensive, but pay is very cheap. We want to move out, but after paying bills every month, there isn't enough left over. I say we are independent of her because we pay all the bills, including the majority of hers.

    From what you have said, it seems that you, in fact, are NOT financially independent.  (Though, if you truly CAN afford to move out on your own, and it's just DH that won't stand up to MIL, then you have bigger issues.)  If I were in your shoes, I'd be thankful and grateful.  Her money spent on these items means more of your money that you can save/ buy other needed items.

    It sounds like you are upset because she has purchased items for you that are not exactly what you wanted, but honestly, even if it's not exactly what you wanted, does it really matter?  The main concern should be: "is LO is safe in these items?"

    You are going to get to do so much for LO that this really is insignificant in the long run.

  • I also have a very important question.

    I assume you are both legal, consenting adults (please correct me if I am wrong), but how does it work where she " literally will not let us (edit: him... she won't let him... I'm allowed to go.) move to our own place."

    What does that mean? How can she keep you from moving? If you are truly independent, this should not be an issue. I feel like there is more to this story than you are letting on.
  • I like how this is turning into if you can't afford to live on your own you have no rights to pick out anything for your child. To everyone being accusatory about their financial situation I'd like to ask how you'd feel if someone else always chose your clothes, and no matter what you said they kept buying them. You have the ability to buy your own clothes, but you're expected to accept the clothes from said fictitious person, and wear them instead of purchasing your own clothes. It shouldn't matter whether you like them or not, as long as you're covered, right?

    @Pinguinageddon I would be pissed in this situation too. I think it's terribly selfish of your MIL to take away part of the joy of being a first time mother, by disregarding your wishes, and expressed concerns over what you, the mother, have chosen for your child. Of course it would be easier to move out and do it your way, but I don't believe you have no rights in this situation simply because you are living with her. Unfortunately I do think you need to develop some tough skin and do what you know is best, even if it does piss her off. Your child, your decisions, not hers.
  • I like how this is turning into if you can't afford to live on your own you have no rights to pick out anything for your child. To everyone being accusatory about their financial situation I'd like to ask how you'd feel if someone else always chose your clothes, and no matter what you said they kept buying them. You have the ability to buy your own clothes, but you're expected to accept the clothes from said fictitious person, and wear them instead of purchasing your own clothes. It shouldn't matter whether you like them or not, as long as you're covered, right? @Pinguinageddon I would be pissed in this situation too. I think it's terribly selfish of your MIL to take away part of the joy of being a first time mother, by disregarding your wishes, and expressed concerns over what you, the mother, have chosen for your child. Of course it would be easier to move out and do it your way, but I don't believe you have no rights in this situation simply because you are living with her. Unfortunately I do think you need to develop some tough skin and do what you know is best, even if it does piss her off. Your child, your decisions, not hers.

    She stated, no less than 3 times, about how they are not financially independent.  In my response, I pointed out that accepting these items, frees up more of her $ to purchase other needed items or to build a savings to move out.  Since they ARE financially depending on MIL, why not just be grateful for the items?  What does it hurt that they are not exactly what OP wanted, as long as they are safe for baby?

    IMO if you are financially dependent on someone else, you certainly can't dictate how they spend their money.  I'd even go as far as saying that in some cases it wouldn't be out of line for the person you are financially dependent on to have an opinion on your finances.

  • If you and your husband are both on the same page, then this is not an issue of grateful or ungrateful....he needs to stick up for his now-growing family and speak to his mother frankly about the issues you BOTH have about some of the purchases his mother has made (whether those are safety, style, you wanted to pick them out with DH, etc.)  Being his mother, I think it's most appropriate for him to talk to her (you can be there too if that's what you want) and not for you to be in the middle.  

    He should start practicing firmly conveying both of your wishes NOW because if she's doing this already, wait until all the how-you-should-be-raising-my-grandchild advice/actions start flying around!

    If you and your husband are NOT on the same page about how to approach this or he has issues sticking up for both of you to his mother.....well then as others have said, your problem is bigger than your MIL.
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