July 2016 Moms

Silencing the miscarriage

lilurbaniklilurbanik member
edited December 2015 in July 2016 Moms
So, the other day I posted an UO that got pretty heated and mostly misinterpreted. The rebuttal was about society silencing miscarriage. This really got me thinking...our biggest silencer is ourself.
How many woman are waiting until 12 weeks to tell people? Why, in case something happens? Is it to save the uncomfortable conversation about the loss?
Of the women I've personally known who have lost babies, when they told me it wasn't uncomfortable for me, it was sad and I wanted to help them heal. We've put this own constraint ourselves. And we leave ourselves to mourn privately because of it. This 12 week waiting period is us silencing ourselves.


Eta: a little backstory, what sparked this thought was my DH. We were at his work Christmas party and he told just about everyone there that we were pregnant. He was proud and excited, he wasn't concerned about waiting 12 weeks. And when I mentioned it, he said "so, then we tell people that".
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Re: Silencing the miscarriage

  • I have not hid this pregnancy for this very reason. I have had 2 losses and have been more open about each pregnancy since them. I am not announcing my pregnancy by any means, and probably never really will, but I am not hiding it either and have told a number of people, which is something I wouldn't have done in the past.
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  • Society has for a long time felt that while it is a "life" it is not here and does not make a difference.

    When we told my Grand MIL about our first, her exact words was "oh, umm. good luck. I hope you dont lose it". She was being honest and was surprised that was told so 'early".



    However, if you ever talk to a mother who lost a child, they may never talk about it. But ask them how old that child will be, they can tell you exactly. Including my mother about my brother (born sleeping at 8 months).
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  • I agree with you @Lindsayleigh1989 and just in case my phrasing came out wrong in my post, I think that keeping it private until you're past the 12 week mark (or whatever point is a point of comfort for that person) is completely fine and I don't think it's our "job as women" to break down the stigma by sharing something we aren't comfortable with. Some people find comfort in public grieving, some people find comfort in a small group of close loved ones, and some people prefer to keep their grief private. There's no wrong way to grieve and there's no wrong way to handle the anxieties of early pregnancy (or anything wrong with having no anxieties in early pregnancy). Just feel how you feel and do what you need to do.
  • I just find it interesting that the overall norm is to wait 12 weeks. We told family right away. I was originally going to wait to tell everyone else, but I think I'm just going to let the news come out as it may. I'm 7w3d today.
  • I think many tell close family and friends before and pubically after. I personally don't want to go through a miscarriage on Facebook that truly sounds awful to me.
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  • @Lindsayleigh1989 honestly, I don't think I want to go through this whole pregnancy and parenting on Facebook. I'm more of a private person and Facebook is full of people I don't talk to on a normal basis. I'm actually rethinking the whole Facebook announcement. But, most likely, I will tell extended family at Christmas and my friends when I see them.
  • I'm only "hiding" it because we want to tell my mom first and in person... She lives 600 miles away so it will be Christmas when we get there. DH also wants to show her a sonogram so that's why we are waiting.

    I saw a girl on Facebook post her digital test. Good for her. I wouldn't have, for the same reason I didn't post my engagement ring immediately: so I can tell my family personally first.
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  • I locked down my fb page already so we can tell whoever we want and they can't post on my page or tag me, etc. We've also asked those who already know to keep it off social media until they get our announcement in the mail and our fb pages are unlocked. I want to tell some people now without having to answer a bajillion questions. We're also waiting to tell some family members in person, and I don't want them to find out on fb.

    I'm not so concerned about the MC issue. I have a friend who lost her baby at ~35 weeks. She couldn't grieve without people knowing and the way people rallied around her was really beautiful.

    We're doing a New Years themed announcement, probably sending just before Xmas (we always send New Years cards instead of Xmas cards), so people we haven't already told will find out when I'm about 11 weeks.

    That being said I haven't thought much about when to tell work...
  • @LinzerBinzer we made the same no social media announcing request of our family until we can tell everyone we want to in person
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  • I locked down my fb page already so we can tell whoever we want and they can't post on my page or tag me, etc. We've also asked those who already know to keep it off social media until they get our announcement in the mail and our fb pages are unlocked. I want to tell some people now without having to answer a bajillion questions. We're also waiting to tell some family members in person, and I don't want them to find out on fb. I'm not so concerned about the MC issue. I have a friend who lost her baby at ~35 weeks. She couldn't grieve without people knowing and the way people rallied around her was really beautiful. We're doing a New Years themed announcement, probably sending just before Xmas (we always send New Years cards instead of Xmas cards), so people we haven't already told will find out when I'm about 11 weeks. That being said I haven't thought much about when to tell work...
    I actually did the same thing with shutting down my facebook page, just because we've told all the parents and I don't need some goofball of a relative spilling the beans before we get a chance too.

    I started telling people at my job around 8 weeks, after we had our confirmation appointment, my mom knew the day after I found out. DH waited till thanksgiving to tell his family. Am I scared of MC, yes horribly scared, but I've come into the mindset that this is something I can not control, my body is in charge of this whole thing and I need to trust my body. I wish MC's weren't such a taboo topic. I don't know if we just haven't moved on from a time period where we as woman can still not talk about this sort of thing with out being seen as a failure in reproducing. 

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  • BostonBaby1BostonBaby1 member
    edited December 2015
    * Sorry for the delete but I'm editing because I don't want to commit the negativity to a permanent space.
  • We've shared early with all my pregnancies. With my first I was still in college, so we told family. I never made a formal FB announcement. With my second we told family and some friends and I lost it before we had the chance to go to the doctor. My family wasn't happy and my dad told me not to tell my grandparents. It's been 4 years and they just found out. With my last and this one, we told family and made a fb announcement before the 12 weeks. I didn't know miscarriages were common. I wish I would have told more people, maybe I would have had more shoulders to cry on. I felt so alone and it was awful. I'd rather share and IF I loose this one, then maybe I can help someone else that is grieving. It's totally up to the individual and when they feel comfortable sharing. There's no "right" time.
  • I did not want everyone at work and the world to know because I did want to grieve privately.  I work at a Catholic school and we are all VERY close.  Although, I would have appreciated the thoughts and prayers I know everyone would have felt they needed to console me and ask how I was doing.  I didn't want that constant reminder...especially if I was having a good day.  For me, it just put me in control of when/how/who I wanted to talk about it.
  • I don't want to tell the world, not because I'm ashamed or because I'm "silencing" myself. I'm refraining because I don't want to have to then tell everyone if I MC. I don't want to get the looks, or people whispering about me. It's exhausting.

    I'm already dealing with the anxiety of percentages and getting past the "milestone" date and being scared that every twinge could be the beginning of the end. I don't need the anxiety of having to break the news to be on me, also.

    The only people we've told so far are immediate family. They would be supportive and it wouldn't be exhausting to talk to them about it.

    It really sucks to have the happiness and excitement of pregnancy taken over by the fear of miscarriage, but it's my reality and I'm doing my best.
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  • I completely agree with so many responses her. It is up to every individual and what they feel most comfortable doing. I myself have had three miscarriages, I have never announced publicly. We told more people the first one, then no one the second or third pregnancy. Not even family. I did tell my mom after the miscarriages since I was having d&c and although the risk of anything going wrong I still wanted to let her know just in case.

    I am hoping I get to the point where I can publicly announce and I was thinking about even doing it around 11 weeks. I planned to mention that I we have experienced reoccurring miscarriages and fertility treatments so that in case there is anyone that it would help give hope/ support to, and they can reach out to me if they are in the same situation or have questions. I know what a lonely journey it can be and I think it would make me happy to be able to help someone. It's not easy to see a new pregnancy announcement everyday when you are struggling and have had multiple losses. I feel ready to be more open this time around and share our journey. So maybe not just every individual is different, but every pregnancy too
  • We've kept things quiet so far because we weren't sure if we'd want everyone to know if we had a loss. After my threatened miscarriage this past week, we actually ended up telling both our parents and DH's brothers for the family support. I also spilled to a close friend (and supervisor) at work when I called to ask for some personal time off. The fam now knows that Pond is still kicking, and that we're cautiously optimistic, but we're keeping it from the rest of the world until after the first trimester. This has been such a roller coaster of emotion so far, I don't really feel like having my extended circle involved, I prefer to keep things close until we're a little more certain of the outcome. I think it's a very personal choice and there's no right or wrong, just what is right for each individual/family.
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  • With my first pregnancy I was very naive, I didn't know the stats on miscarriage- we were so excited that we immediately announced to everyone including on my FB. Just 3 weeks after announcing, we lost our baby and then had to "announce" the miscarriage on FB... Basically announcing our pain with friends, aquaintences, and mostly people I rarely or never talk to. Having to make that announcement only added to my pain and anxiety. I would never announce on FB before 14 weeks again. We did tell our friends and family this time around though.
  • edited December 2015
    Couldn't agree more with @CarrieandRoy and @AL_TwinCities Thank you ladies.
  • @Carrieand Roy thank you for sharing. That was beautifully written and hopefully an important reminder for all of us how valuable our empathy and support can be.
  • acadia07 said:

    1) You will not ever understand what it's like to lose a baby until you lose a baby. You just won't. Don't speculate, and don't judge how other women deal with it, because it is one of the most complex, deeply emotional losses a human being could ever experience. I urge you, OP, to try to be a little more compassionate and stop formulating opinions on why women choose to share or not to share, or what the consequences for society are. This is not your battle. I hope it's not ever your battle.

    2) I completely disagree that not telling the world about pregnancy before 12 weeks is "silencing misscarriage." I agree with much of what others have said. It's personal. It's very, very personal. The ladies here have given lots of perfectly rational examples as to why they may or may not share. It's a whole lot less about silencing ourselves and a whole lot more about avoiding any extra pain and saving those we love from similar pain.

    I, personally, am a lot like Carrie. I shared news of my third pregnancy with quite a few people. And the people who I had not shared with yet (mostly because I had not seen them in person yet), I told after the loss, because ignoring that I had been growing a child felt wrong. I'm open about my miscarriage. But I would NEVER judge a woman negatively who kept it to themselves. Never. If that's how she could best deal with the pain, good for her.

    All of this! This is exactly what I was thinking but lack the diplomacy to communicate it as above. Thank you @acadia07 for putting this so concisely.
  • acadia07 said:

    I'm not into big attention-grabby announcements and whatnot. I tell who is important to me in a more intimate setting. That's how I roll. ;)

    This sounds a little judgey mcjudgerson, and I'm not sure you meant it that way after stating you wouldn't judge someone related to not speaking up... :) There are a lot of people who don't live near the friends or family members they want to share the news with, so sharing the news in a "more intimate setting" doesn't always work well. I'm also not sure I could make the number of phone calls I would want to make! I think this really just depends on the individual and their friends/family.

    Just sharing another perspective on this one. :)
    Yep. My inlaws live 2000 miles away. They gets and text message.
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  • acadia07 said:

    I'm not into big attention-grabby announcements and whatnot. I tell who is important to me in a more intimate setting. That's how I roll. ;)

    This sounds a little judgey mcjudgerson, and I'm not sure you meant it that way after stating you wouldn't judge someone related to not speaking up... :) There are a lot of people who don't live near the friends or family members they want to share the news with, so sharing the news in a "more intimate setting" doesn't always work well. I'm also not sure I could make the number of phone calls I would want to make! I think this really just depends on the individual and their friends/family.

    Just sharing another perspective on this one. :)
    Not judging, just saying how I personally prefer to share. By intimate setting I mean either in person, phone, email. Not announcing on social media for the masses, near or far. That's what I do. You do what you do. Different strokes.

    I shouldn't have used "attention-grabby," because my use of that term is colored by some irritating posts of late regarding these bullshiit reveal parties and such. ;)
  • DH had preferred to not share our first loss with anyone, but he also didn't want to talk about it and so the whole thing didn't work for me. I eventually opened up and felt much better about it. My second loss we also hadn't announced, but I was open about the loss. When I was pregnant with DD we waited until we were past loss milestones to share with parents and siblings, but they were under strict orders to not further share until we had the results of our cell-free DNA tests. It is not that we were afraid of sharing the losses, but we did have concerns if we had adverse news from the testing. We don't know what we would do in that situation, but after all of the IF, we just wanted to be able to make decisions regarding our family on our own. We got a lot of unsolicited advice regarding IF while we were trying to conceive (including sex positions and timing tips and a whole lot of nonsense). While DD is fine, we never did a FB announcement. Not t even when she was born. Sometimes seeing those announcements from friends who were having an oops #3 or whatever really hurt while we were struggling with IF, and I wanted to spare others who were silently struggling from being crushed with another announcement. As for this one, we haven't shared yet. Once again, we are waiting for the cell-free DNA tests for the larger public. As for our family, we are waiting because we will get a lot of pressure for me to be a SAHM (I work part-time). We haven't made any decisions regarding that yet and we aren't looking forward to it being a focus of conversation with my parents. We will have to tell them by the end of the first tri, but our delay has nothing to do with silencing miscarriage. And should I miscarry this baby, I will be open and share about it.
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  • I'm doing 12 weeks because then it's another exciting thing to look forward to, like the 20 week ultra sound and my husband wants to do that. I'm in the boat where if I misscarried I'd want support. If people don't know they can't support you. At this point I'd want my mom to know, but no one else but that's just not possible because then he'd want to tell his parents. Just awkward all around. I'm hoping to negotiate telling everyone at 10 weeks but I'm sure that'll just get pushed to 12. 12 weeks is my sons 2nd birthday so I kind of would rather tell before or after, don't want that overshadowing my lil mans big day.
  • I'm so sorry you're currently going through this, @FiancB. The Miscarriage and TTCAL boards are great, if you haven't found your way there already. I made friends with a girl that got a d&e the same day as me and we've been emailing each other ever since.
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15
      •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
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    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
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    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

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    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













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