So, the other day I posted an UO that got pretty heated and mostly misinterpreted. The rebuttal was about society silencing miscarriage. This really got me thinking...our biggest silencer is ourself.
How many woman are waiting until 12 weeks to tell people? Why, in case something happens? Is it to save the uncomfortable conversation about the loss?
Of the women I've personally known who have lost babies, when they told me it wasn't uncomfortable for me, it was sad and I wanted to help them heal. We've put this own constraint ourselves. And we leave ourselves to mourn privately because of it. This 12 week waiting period is us silencing ourselves.
Eta: a little backstory, what sparked this thought was my DH. We were at his work Christmas party and he told just about everyone there that we were pregnant. He was proud and excited, he wasn't concerned about waiting 12 weeks. And when I mentioned it, he said "so, then we tell people that".
Re: Silencing the miscarriage
When we told my Grand MIL about our first, her exact words was "oh, umm. good luck. I hope you dont lose it". She was being honest and was surprised that was told so 'early".
However, if you ever talk to a mother who lost a child, they may never talk about it. But ask them how old that child will be, they can tell you exactly. Including my mother about my brother (born sleeping at 8 months).
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I don't think there is a right or wrong way to handle this. And we need to be careful that our statements don't sound like we are judging others if they have a differing opinion.
I saw a girl on Facebook post her digital test. Good for her. I wouldn't have, for the same reason I didn't post my engagement ring immediately: so I can tell my family personally first.
I'm not so concerned about the MC issue. I have a friend who lost her baby at ~35 weeks. She couldn't grieve without people knowing and the way people rallied around her was really beautiful.
We're doing a New Years themed announcement, probably sending just before Xmas (we always send New Years cards instead of Xmas cards), so people we haven't already told will find out when I'm about 11 weeks.
That being said I haven't thought much about when to tell work...
I've lost 4 in a row now. Single, twins, single. I'm not "hiding" this pregnancy but you can bet I'm not about to announce it until 14 weeks or later. I want the NT scan and free-cell DNA back first. I share about my pregnancy with those who have supported me through the losses but there are TONS of insensitive people. I'd rather not have everybody's looks of pity or talk about my losses if I'm having a happy upbeat day.
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I wanted to wait to tell our families because I hate the idea of getting their hopes up again. The pain is so immense. We decided to tell them anyway, but I don't feel like telling the world yet. People say some horribly offensive things. Example:" oh you two will for sure be parents this time" ummm pretty sure we already are parents. those people are everywhere and it's not helpful for them to be around when you are already terrified and emotional.
If we lose this one, the world will know. I won't be silent about it. But they don't need to stress us out more right now, we've got that part covered.
That being said, I think we can definitely treat this board as a safe place. While I understand that reading loss threads can instill fear, my gut reaction (and this may be the naive thoughts of someone who has not experienced loss) is to try to project support and condolences for someone going through a hardship I could never imagine. I don't want to read about someone losing their child ONLY because I wish they didn't have to experience losing their child, not because I imagine losing my own (enter my naivete here). That being said, everyone should feel safe posting here. There are a few threads on here that I have skipped over because I knew I wouldn't get anything out of them, and everyone here is capable of doing the exact same thing.
I am hoping I get to the point where I can publicly announce and I was thinking about even doing it around 11 weeks. I planned to mention that I we have experienced reoccurring miscarriages and fertility treatments so that in case there is anyone that it would help give hope/ support to, and they can reach out to me if they are in the same situation or have questions. I know what a lonely journey it can be and I think it would make me happy to be able to help someone. It's not easy to see a new pregnancy announcement everyday when you are struggling and have had multiple losses. I feel ready to be more open this time around and share our journey. So maybe not just every individual is different, but every pregnancy too
The second time I got pregnant, I told my parents and sister the day I found out, but it wasn't a happy announcement. It was a cautious "we'll see what happens" sort of thing. I lost it a week later.
This time, my husband is the only one who knows. (And my Bump email buddy and the boards I participate in.) I'm waiting so that when I tell my parents and sister, I can surprise them with the happy news that we are farther along this time and have had successful ultrasounds.
So I am not open about pregnancy, but I AM open about miscarriage. I told all my friends after I miscarried because I needed the support and I couldn't stand the idea of pretending the pregnancies never happened. I gave them the news of the pregnancy and miscarriage at the same time. And when other people, like my hairdresser, ask when I'm going to have kids, I say we're working on it and I've had a couple of miscarriages. Often times, they tell me they have had one as well. I don't say it awkwardly, so it isn't awkward. It ends up being a better conversation than if I had given some excuse through clenched teeth.
The best support I've received has definitely been from the women on the Bump. So when you see a goodbye post, instead of getting nervous, be thankful that you are pregnant and offer some compassion to the person that is saying goodbye not only to you, but to the baby they were so looking forward to having. They need that compassion more than you know.
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2) I completely disagree that not telling the world about pregnancy before 12 weeks is "silencing misscarriage." I agree with much of what others have said. It's personal. It's very, very personal. The ladies here have given lots of perfectly rational examples as to why they may or may not share. It's a whole lot less about silencing ourselves and a whole lot more about avoiding any extra pain and saving those we love from similar pain.
I, personally, am a lot like Carrie. I shared news of my third pregnancy with quite a few people. And the people who I had not shared with yet (mostly because I had not seen them in person yet), I told after the loss, because ignoring that I had been growing a child felt wrong. I'm open about my miscarriage. But I would NEVER judge a woman negatively who kept it to themselves. Never. If that's how she could best deal with the pain, good for her.
This pregnancy, I shared with my parents and close friends right away, because I needed the support. My inlaws were diicks about my loss, so they won't know about this pregnancy until after my 12w ultrasound. That's a way of saving myself pain if something were to go wrong. I'm sure I would share again with certain people who don't know yet. As far as public sharing, I don't publicly share anything. I don't like pics of my kids on social media. I keep my FB on lock down and my friends are mostly online friends, local mom friends, some family, almost all of whom already know. I'm not into big attention-grabby announcements and whatnot. I tell who is important to me in a more intimate setting. That's how I roll.
Just sharing another perspective on this one.
I shouldn't have used "attention-grabby," because my use of that term is colored by some irritating posts of late regarding these bullshiit reveal parties and such.
With that being said, I understand where OP is coming from and I applaud you for making the decision to announce early. As a woman who has been through three losses in one year I don't think me not announcing early is adding to the silence. I am extremely vocal about our infertility issues and our losses. I am 7w1d today and got to see my first ever heartbeat on Thursday. We have told only a handful of people who were aware that we were having fertility treatments. My decision not to tell anymore than that is because I am trying my best to enjoy this pregnancy privately with my husband. I'm keeping it very close and cherishing those moments I have with just us until everyone knows and all the questions, concerns and unsolicited advice starts. If Something should go wrong with this pregnancy I will tell people because my babies existed and I will always acknowledge that. Now, this is MY decision. Every woman is entitled to their own and entitled to deal with the losses anyway they want to.
OP, I hope you never ever find yourself in a position that some of us woman here have been in. I wish you a very happy and healthy 9
Months. But, please don't give advise to woman that you can not relate to and will never understand. I get that your trying to makeup for your UO by being supportive but a simple apology and explaining what you meant was enough.
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BFP 2/19/15 • MMC found at 9 wks • D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
BFP 8/29/15 • CP (age 37)
TTC#2 since May 2017
BFP 10/18/17 • MMC found at 8 wks • Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)
BFP 2/16/18 • CP (age 39)
BFP 4/13/18 • CP (age 39)
BFP 5/07/18 • MMC found at 10.5 wks • D&E at 11.5 wks • Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)
RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.
BFP 9/24/18 • CP (age 40)
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