@StrawberryDuck Very well. Also, I am in India, it certainly applies to my pregnancy experirnce, hence my prespective and reference point, which I anyways went on to say is probably different from what applies to OP.
I don't think thats reason good enough to mock it as completely ridiculous, this is after all an international forum and we do live in the world.
@Ceridwen77 and if you can realise that its something "serious" you can go ahead and also realise that we suffer serious consequences like not being able to determine the gender of our unborn child at all and having to see only blurred u/s all through out our pregnancies and the doctors choosing to be extremely tight lipped about it. I am not trying to sound "educated" I am trying to put in prespective the experience of millions of women including MYSELF during pregnancy.
But its your choice to not want to hear of something thats not affecting you just cause it sounds unpleasant.
You don't have to lecture me on the severity of sex selection by abortion in other countries. I'm well aware of this, the severity of it (not putting it in quotes as you have), as well as the fact that it applies in many countries, not just India. I'm also aware that it's been proven time and time again through hidden cameras that many doctors in these countries where this is illegal are more than willing to tell the patient the sex. It's really a horrible thing and I sympathize with the unborn child. There's a lot of attention on this topic today and groups available to help prevent sex selection, but there is still a long way to go. With the recent announcement of changes in China, NPR did a special on this last week and it's interesting for anyone seeking more information.
The issue here is that you felt this was the appropriate thread to bring up such a serious topic. What you don't realize is that no one is constructively engaging with you on this because it has absolutely no application to the original post. You have taken this thread from a doctor guessing sex with no basis to foeticide. I can't even say you've gone to the extreme as that would be an understatement.
Sadly anything you've said with relevancy has been completely overlooked due to your accusatory attitude and misplacement of information.
Lastly, Your assumption that I lack compassion and don't want to hear about / discuss this topic because it doesn't apply to me is unfounded, hurtful, and just plain wrong. You continue to lose credibility with your personal attacks. If you really were a lawyer you'd maintain your composure and base your arguments on facts vs low blows. The only character assassination that's occurring here is that of your own.
@Ceridwen77 and if you can realise that its something "serious" you can go ahead and also realise that we suffer serious consequences like not being able to determine the gender of our unborn child at all and having to see only blurred u/s all through out our pregnancies and the doctors choosing to be extremely tight lipped about it. I am not trying to sound "educated" I am trying to put in prespective the experience of millions of women including MYSELF during pregnancy.
But its your choice to not want to hear of something thats not affecting you just cause it sounds unpleasant.
You don't have to lecture me on the severity of sex selection by abortion in other countries. I'm well aware of this, the severity of it (not putting it in quotes as you have), as well as the fact that it applies in many countries, not just India. I'm also aware that it's been proven time and time again through hidden cameras that many doctors in these countries where this is illegal are more than willing to tell the patient the sex. It's really a horrible thing and I sympathize with the unborn child. There's a lot of attention on this topic today and groups available to help prevent sex selection, but there is still a long way to go. With the recent announcement of changes in China, NPR did a special on this last week and it's interesting for anyone seeking more information.
The issue here is that you felt this was the appropriate thread to bring up such a serious topic. What you don't realize is that no one is constructively engaging with you on this because it has absolutely no application to the original post. You have taken this thread from a doctor guessing sex with no basis to foeticide. I can't even say you've gone to the extreme as that would be an understatement.
Sadly anything you've said with relevancy has been completely overlooked due to your accusatory attitude and misplacement of information.
Lastly, Your assumption that I lack compassion and don't want to hear about / discuss this topic because it doesn't apply to me is unfounded, hurtful, and just plain wrong. You continue to lose credibility with your personal attacks. If you really were a lawyer you'd maintain your composure and base your arguments on facts vs low blows. The only character assassination that's occurring here is that of your own.
All this here. We don't need you to educate us on these issues. Most of us are aware. However, those issues don't apply here and you continuing to stomp your feet about it here is just ridiculous.
@Ceridwen77 your awareness (if at all) sadly does not reflect in your attitude. What i am experiencing in my pregnancy is not a "lecture" upon anyone else. And you are mistaken that you understand it better than someone going through it. And "character assassination" is absolutely a stretch.
Also I was under the impression that this an INTERNATIONAL FORUM which is open to the pregnancy experience of women from all over the world. But clearly it seems you feel entitled to filter what experiences should be shared and what shouldnt be.
Also your comments on my qualifications or career without an iota of information about me is just juvenile.
I am not going to bother to express anything else, you are most welcome to maintain your admant notions.
My baby's heart rate at 9, 13, and 18 weeks was 170, 150s, 150s. I jokingly said to my midwife "does that mean it's a girl?" And she said although it's just an old wives tale, there does seem to be a liiiiiittle something to it because she estimates it to be correct more than 50% of the time (but certainly not ALL the time).
Found out at 19 weeks it's a girl! Good thing or else my midwife would have a lawsuit on her hands (kidding)
@StrawberryDuck Very well.
Also, I am in India, it certainly applies to my pregnancy experirnce, hence my prespective and reference point, which I anyways went on to say is probably different from what applies to OP.
I don't think thats reason good enough to mock it as completely ridiculous, this is after all an international forum and we do live in the world.
If the whole reply here was meant for me, let me just point out that nowhere did I 'mock it as completely ridiculous'.
Just an old 'bad apple' with no home to call her own,lurking in the shadows :-)
@samiya64 No one is disagreeing with you about how devastating it is that in certain parts of this world, female geoticide is still an issue. What pps are saying is that this isn't the topic here and has no relevance to the OP's post.
I do not know if your advice to "get it in writing" and sue the dr is a legitimate advice in a situation like this in India, where you practice, but what the pps are saying is that such advice isn't applicable to OP's situation.
You gave a bad advice, just own up to it instead of trying to argue that PPs are being somehow insensitive to female geoticide in India, because that's not what PPs are saying.
Just like most doctors probably wouldn't make a random guess at the child's sex, I have a hard time believing most legitimate lawyers would (or should) dole out legal advice on a freaking pregnancy forum and not consider their international audience.
I'm sure others have mentioned that this is a really unreliable way to tell the sex of your baby. At my first appointment (8w 4d), my baby's heart rate was 178. At my next appointment 4 weeks later, my doc grinned and said he thought it "sounds like a boy today" because the heart rate was slower. I told him, "nope - she's just sleeping late, I'm sure." (My appointment was at 7:30.) I've been sure from the beginning that I'm having a girl - I've been having dreams about it, etc, which is almost as reliable as going by heart rate, in my book.
Anyhow, during the u/s prior to CVS procedure, the heart rate was 155; afterwards, it was 174. Heart rate fluctuates based on activity, as it does for us. Wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Me: 39DH: 41 Met in HS, but lost touch for 12 years after graduation 1st Date: 5/27/06 Engaged: 9/16/13 Married: 6/20/15 BFP: 9/2/15 CVS: 11/3/15 (all good news - thank God!) EDD: 5/11/16
At my first appointment I said to my friend "oh the HR was ___ it's a ___ according to the Internet" and my doctor, who had just finished her residency literally laughed. I wasn't being serious because Old Wives Tales are just tales. I personally found them fun and they did end up being correct for me but I can't believe your doctor made an assumption based off of that.
So yeah, I would be concerned about the legitimacy of your doctor as well.
My doctor said he was guessing mine as a boy, since we STILL can't tell the true gender. We're not going by the old wives tells, or anything. He just said he was anywhere between 5%-10% on the gender, and that it was just a major guess on his part! The heart rate has nothing to do with it, though. And neither does the whole...dangling a necklace on you wrist or palm of your hang work. And whatever you do, do NOT go by the carrying high/low theory, either! They will all be 50/50 on being correct. You never know the gender for SURE, until baby is born!
My midwife also without prompting told me that my baby sounds like she's a girl I don't wish to find out, I'm waiting for a surprise on the day boy or girl I'm not fussed.
Re: Doctor told me she'd guess it's a girl
Also, I am in India, it certainly applies to my pregnancy experirnce, hence my prespective and reference point, which I anyways went on to say is probably different from what applies to OP.
I don't think thats reason good enough to mock it as completely ridiculous, this is after all an international forum and we do live in the world.
The issue here is that you felt this was the appropriate thread to bring up such a serious topic. What you don't realize is that no one is constructively engaging with you on this because it has absolutely no application to the original post. You have taken this thread from a doctor guessing sex with no basis to foeticide. I can't even say you've gone to the extreme as that would be an understatement.
Sadly anything you've said with relevancy has been completely overlooked due to your accusatory attitude and misplacement of information.
Lastly, Your assumption that I lack compassion and don't want to hear about / discuss this topic because it doesn't apply to me is unfounded, hurtful, and just plain wrong. You continue to lose credibility with your personal attacks. If you really were a lawyer you'd maintain your composure and base your arguments on facts vs low blows. The only character assassination that's occurring here is that of your own.
Also I was under the impression that this an INTERNATIONAL FORUM which is open to the pregnancy experience of women from all over the world. But clearly it seems you feel entitled to filter what experiences should be shared and what shouldnt be.
Also your comments on my qualifications or career without an iota of information about me is just juvenile.
I am not going to bother to express anything else, you are most welcome to maintain your admant notions.
Found out at 19 weeks it's a girl! Good thing or else my midwife would have a lawsuit on her hands (kidding)
If the whole reply here was meant for me, let me just point out that nowhere did I 'mock it as completely ridiculous'.
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Me: 39 DH: 41
Met in HS, but lost touch for 12 years after graduation
1st Date: 5/27/06
Engaged: 9/16/13
Married: 6/20/15
BFP: 9/2/15
CVS: 11/3/15 (all good news - thank God!)
EDD: 5/11/16
So yeah, I would be concerned about the legitimacy of your doctor as well.
Spontaneous pregnancy #1
DD1 July 31, 2011
Trying for #2 since Oct 11
Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!!
Married: Oct 20, 2013
BFP 1: Aug 31, 2015
EDD 1: May 12, 2016
DD1 Emma born May 12, 2016
An Honest Account of New Motherhood (with Postpartum Anxiety, Depression, and OCD)
BFP 2: October 07, 2019
EDD 2: June 20, 2020