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Immunizations do or don't and why?

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Re: Immunizations do or don't and why?

  • We will be giving baby all recommended vaccines so that she will have the best protection possible. My husband is a microbiologist that works in vaccine research. Also, the eye ointment is not only for protection against STDs but also keeps baby from getting pink eye in the event that they are exposed to fecal matter during the birthing process. As it is not uncommon for a woman to have a bowel movement during birth.

    It's not for pink eye
    Really? Pink eye was causing blindness in up to 3% of infants before the eye ointment became a common practice. Do you also believe antibiotics don't work?
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  • cantobean said:

    Instead of vaccinations, just fill his first bottle with Emergen-C. It's basically the same, I mean better.

    Add essential oils to his bath.

    Don't forgot to burn sage in the nursery to ward off disease and evil spirits.

    Never take your baby to a doctor. Instead, take him to one of those all-knowing Pharmacists. They will know what to do. Or a wizard, perhaps.



    Or you could come back to planet earth and get your kid vaccinated.

    My babies get nothing liquid outside of breastmilk for the first year.

    Oil never mixes with water, so no thanks.

    I have God in my life, don't need to hold His hand and help Him. Besides, He's the one who blessed us with this baby.

    I prefer a functioning doctor, thanks.

    I know you're being snarky, I can do it too ;)

    My kids haven't gotten any of the diseases you're paranoid your kids will be getting. I just don't pump my kids with dangerous things, things from animal body parts, or things from fetuses.

    Not paranoid, just sane. And...you're not great at being snarky. You're good at being sharky, though.
  • cantobean said:

    cantobean said:

    Instead of vaccinations, just fill his first bottle with Emergen-C. It's basically the same, I mean better.

    Add essential oils to his bath.

    Don't forgot to burn sage in the nursery to ward off disease and evil spirits.

    Never take your baby to a doctor. Instead, take him to one of those all-knowing Pharmacists. They will know what to do. Or a wizard, perhaps.



    Or you could come back to planet earth and get your kid vaccinated.

    My babies get nothing liquid outside of breastmilk for the first year.

    Oil never mixes with water, so no thanks.

    I have God in my life, don't need to hold His hand and help Him. Besides, He's the one who blessed us with this baby.

    I prefer a functioning doctor, thanks.

    I know you're being snarky, I can do it too ;)

    My kids haven't gotten any of the diseases you're paranoid your kids will be getting. I just don't pump my kids with dangerous things, things from animal body parts, or things from fetuses.

    Not paranoid, just sane. And...you're not great at being snarky. You're good at being sharky, though.
    Considering you're injecting them with products to ward off things that haven't happened to either of your kids or mine, that doesn't sound too sane.
  • cbou said:

    We will be giving baby all recommended vaccines so that she will have the best protection possible. My husband is a microbiologist that works in vaccine research. Also, the eye ointment is not only for protection against STDs but also keeps baby from getting pink eye in the event that they are exposed to fecal matter during the birthing process. As it is not uncommon for a woman to have a bowel movement during birth.

    It's not for pink eye
    Really? Pink eye was causing blindness in up to 3% of infants before the eye ointment became a common practice. Do you also believe antibiotics don't work?
    I don't use antibiotics when I can avoid it. I use natural remedies for everything my kids have ever faced in the last two years, including pink eye.
  • VitaLunaVitaLuna member
    edited November 2015
    cbou said:



    Really? Pink eye was causing blindness in up to 3% of infants before the eye ointment became a common practice. Do you also believe antibiotics don't work?

    Pink eye = conjunctivitis = the same condition babies can get from exposure to STDs. I think people are getting mixed up with the wording.

    ETA: people are assuming that the term pink eye/conjunctivitis refers to something different than STD eye infections. Conjunctivitis can be caused by many things, including STDs. The erythromycin given is intended to prevent chlamydia/gonorrhea conjunctivitis and resulting blindness. I hope that makes more sense.

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  • VitaLuna said:

    cbou said:



    Really? Pink eye was causing blindness in up to 3% of infants before the eye ointment became a common practice. Do you also believe antibiotics don't work?

    Pink eye = conjunctivitis = the same condition babies can get from exposure to STDs. I think people are getting mixed up with the wording.
    Funny, people don't know that polio goes by a different name currently too!
  • Instead of vaccinations, just fill his first bottle with Emergen-C. It's basically the same, I mean better. Add essential oils to his bath. Don't forgot to burn sage in the nursery to ward off disease and evil spirits. Never take your baby to a doctor. Instead, take him to one of those all-knowing Pharmacists. They will know what to do. Or a wizard, perhaps. Or you could come back to planet earth and get your kid vaccinated.
    My babies get nothing liquid outside of breastmilk for the first year. Oil never mixes with water, so no thanks. I have God in my life, don't need to hold His hand and help Him. Besides, He's the one who blessed us with this baby. I prefer a functioning doctor, thanks. I know you're being snarky, I can do it too ;) My kids haven't gotten any of the diseases you're paranoid your kids will be getting. I just don't pump my kids with dangerous things, things from animal body parts, or things from fetuses.

    "Things from animal body parts, things from fetuses,".... Your rationale is extremely confusing to me. Do you also not feed your children meat? Because, what your saying is it's dangerous to pump animal body parts into your kids.... But, When they eat meat you know that they are consuming animal parts, yes? image
  • Considering you're injecting them with products to ward off things that haven't happened to either of your kids or mine, that doesn't sound too sane.
    My kids haven't gotten those things because they've been vaccinated. My son was actually exposed to whooping cough and was protected through his vaccine. 

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  • Considering you're injecting them with products to ward off things that haven't happened to either of your kids or mine, that doesn't sound too sane.

    My kids haven't gotten those things because they've been vaccinated. My son was actually exposed to whooping cough and was protected through his vaccine. 

    Has he been diagnosed with croup? That's the newest name for it, in case you weren't aware.
  • VitaLunaVitaLuna member
    edited November 2015



    Funny, people don't know that polio goes by a different name currently too!

    I was partially referring to you (and others) who are getting mixed up on the wording. You said it's not for pink eye. Technically it is. It's for STD associated conjunctivitis, not the typical viral stuff you see spreading around daycares/schools.

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  • Considering you're injecting them with products to ward off things that haven't happened to either of your kids or mine, that doesn't sound too sane.

    My kids haven't gotten those things because they've been vaccinated. My son was actually exposed to whooping cough and was protected through his vaccine. 

    I'm glad to hear he wasn't infected! Healthy babies(even if they have surpassed the "baby" age, all children are babies!), yaaaay.



  • Has he been diagnosed with croup? That's the newest name for it, in case you weren't aware.

    Croup is different from whooping cough. They are different diseases with different coughs...in case you weren't aware.

    Croup is whopping cough renamed. Again, cause vaccines don't work. But do continue in your ignorance.
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  • VitaLuna said:



    Funny, people don't know that polio goes by a different name currently too!

    I was partially referring to you (and others) who are getting mixed up on the wording. You said it's not for pink eye. Technically it is. It's for STD associated conjunctivitis, not the typical viral stuff you see spreading around daycares/schools.
    *snort* you just admitted it comes from STDs...... Which is the only reason why they push the eye ointment.

    It's not for what's the common version of pink eye. It's to protect baby from chlamydia and gonorrhea
  • Considering you're injecting them with products to ward off things that haven't happened to either of your kids or mine, that doesn't sound too sane.
    My kids haven't gotten those things because they've been vaccinated. My son was actually exposed to whooping cough and was protected through his vaccine. 
    Has he been diagnosed with croup? That's the newest name for it, in case you weren't aware.
    Whooping cough (or pertussis) is a contagious bacterial infection. Croup (laryngo-tracheo-bronchitis) is a viral infection triggered by allergies or illnesses like RSV. Stop spreading your lies here.
    Did you miss this @sharkgirl7? They are not the same.

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  • Croup

    -caused by a virus
    -usually lasts 3-5 days
    -usually mild, needing no medical treatment

    -caused by bacteria
    -starts out similar to a cold, symptoms worsen after a week or two
    -"Severe and prolonged coughing attacks may:
    • Provoke vomiting
    • Result in a red or blue face
    • Cause extreme fatigue
    • End with a high-pitched "whoop" sound during the next breath of air"
    Whooping Cough Gets A Revamp
    Whooping cough has also been found to have a name change. It has been reported over and over that cases of whooping cough have been diagnosed in fully vaccinated children. In fact one report stated that vaccine failure has actually been admitted. Natural News (10) reported:

    New research reported by Reuters reveals that whooping cough outbreaks are HIGHER among vaccinated children compared with unvaccinated children. This is based on a study led by Dr. David Witt, an infectious disease specialist at the Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in San Rafael, California.

    Doctors have known this for a very long time and there could be many more cases than we could ever imagine. Professionals have discovered that doctors have been diagnosing whooping cough as croup!.

    Dr Viera Scheibner says:

    In the Journal of Infectious Diseases, 1994, “Age Specific Incidence of Bacteriologically Confirmed Pertussis, between 1981 and 1991 – ten year follow-up”.(11) The majority of cases occurred in the most vulnerable age group below the age of one year in the most vaccinated children. Actually the majority of cases happened within the first four months. The vaccine is causing whooping cough. A lot of children develop whooping cough from the vaccine, but if they are vaccinated, it will be diagnosed as ‘croup’.

    Bronwyn Hancock Vaccine Information Service agrees (12) stating:

    “(2) The diagnostic guidelines given to doctors were supplemented with “No history of vaccination” when the vaccines were introduced. Even without these written guidelines, doctors are taught that vaccines are effective. The result is that upon seeing an illness in a child who has been vaccinated “against” it, doctors have been observed to conclude that the disease must be a different disease, so the case of the disease is not reported.

    For example whooping cough gets called “croup” when it occurs in vaccinated children, and diphtheria gets called such names as “epiglotitis”, or, as in this case, described in “Raising a Vaccine Free Child”, by Wendy Lydall (2005, pg 68),

    ‘Her aunt had nursed diphtheria cases in Britain in the 1950s, and she said that her niece had the typical symptoms of diphtheria. The girl was flown by helicopter to a bigger hospital in Auckland, where they took a swab from her throat and confirmed diphtheria. When they learned that the girl was fully immunised, one of the doctors said to the mother, “Then it can’t be diphtheria.” They changed the diagnosis to bacterial tracheitis.’

    So the teaching of doctors that vaccination will reduce number of cases *reported* of a disease is a self-fulfilling prophecy, regardless of how many cases there are in reality.”

    The bottom line is parents are being duped into believing that vaccinations will protect children from deadly diseases when in fact they protect children from absolutely nothing. The truth is that more and more vaccinated children are becoming sick with the diseases that they have been vaccinated against and research is revealing that doctors are devising clever ways to cover this up. Not only this but the adverse reactions that children can have from the vaccines, are potentially worse than the diseases themselves. It seems to me that vaccinations are little more than a get rich quick scheme run by the pharmaceutical industries and endorsed by the governments. This is not only criminal it is fraud by any other name.

  • VitaLuna said:

    cbou said:



    Really? Pink eye was causing blindness in up to 3% of infants before the eye ointment became a common practice. Do you also believe antibiotics don't work?

    Pink eye = conjunctivitis = the same condition babies can get from exposure to STDs. I think people are getting mixed up with the wording.

    ETA: people are assuming that the term pink eye/conjunctivitis refers to something different than STD eye infections. Conjunctivitis can be caused by many things, including STDs. The erythromycin given is intended to prevent chlamydia/gonorrhea conjunctivitis and resulting blindness. I hope that makes more sense.
    I just remember my staff discussing the slim possibilities of it during our tour and introductions.
    Thanks for a more detailed clarification! (Still getting the ointment because I am a very "possible benefit outweighs possible risk" type person. Not that the opinions of here in favor of either would ever be convincing to change my mind. Just wanted to say thanks!)
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  • https://evidencebasedbirth.com/is-erythromycin-eye-ointment-always-necessary-for-newborns/

    Here's another article with lots of evidence based facts and sources regarding the eye ointment.
  • https://evidencebasedbirth.com/is-erythromycin-eye-ointment-always-necessary-for-newborns/

    Here's another article with lots of evidence based facts and sources regarding the eye ointment.

    i love that you always make sure to back your stuff up and share your sources with us :)
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