R/R/CS: I'm waiting on a call back from my RE to see if they want me to increase my Femara dose or stay at 5mg this cycle. Either way I start meds today for another cycle. Last one was a c/p so fingers crossed that this one will be successful!
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Just a generic OTC preantal vitamin. I think the brand is Spring Valley and they are only like $4 per bottle.
Married 9/19/09 Me (32) Dx PCOS, DH (32) SA = Normal/mild morph issues TTC#5 July 2017 - 3rd cycle TTC = BFP on 11/12/17 at 9dpo Beta #1 = 96 at 13dpo - Beta #2 = 207 at 15dpo
TTC#1 starting Nov. 2009 3 rounds of Clomid + TI and 3 rounds of 7.5 mg Femara + IUI before our BFP on 11/8/10 at 12dpiui TTC #2 3rd cycle of Femara 7.5mg+Ovidrel+TI = 4 follies = BFP on 10/12/12 TTC#3 July 2014 - Metformin +TI = BFP at 9dpo - Twins, one baby lost at 5.5 weeks Macy Annabelle born at 37w4d on 4/29/15. Diagnosed with Cri du Chat and passed away on 6/6/15. Forever in our hearts. TTC#4 3rd cycle of Metformin + Femara 7.5mg+Ovidrel+TI = 3 follies = BFP on 12/24/16
WAYDTGKU: checking CM/CP, NTNP - no temping this cycle
R/R/CS: Had EWCM Saturday but my O usually doesn't sync up exactly with CM, so I'm guessing it was either yesterday today or tomorrow. O'd on CD17 my first cycle and CD18 my second cycle so we shall see! Anyways...
Do any of you ladies waver back and forth on TTC? I know some here have been trying for a long time and have had a tough journey so it most likely won't apply to you... But I guess some days I just have a minor freak out and think about what a huge change it will be and worry that I'm not ready - but I think that's just more my worrisome side. Because most days I am so excited at the thought of it. I don't knoooow - just ranting that's all! Monday feelings lol )
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? I take a natural brand one that I found at Kroger, I'm not that picky, just didn't want a lot of extra chemicals in it!
R/R/CS: This is my 5th cycle off of BCPs... I have charted the entire time. My period have gone from 5 days the first 2 months of bcps to 2 days last cycle and 1 day this cycle... I'm going in for my annual this thursday so I will ask her but it makes me a bit worried. I know I'm ovulating though.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Not sure the name. I was gifted them... but will ask my gyno about them.
My periods have been so short and light since coming off BC! 2 days - 3 max and that's including a day of spotting. It is the weirdest thing because I used to have intense periods and painful cramping and now it's like I barely even notice AF besides the light flow. I don't want to complain because it seems like a good deal to me lol just hope it doesn't have anything to do with my fertility! Definitely update with what your doctor has to say
WAYDTGKU: nothing right now other than PNV, oh and I got some of the natural oils that are supposed to be good for fertility. I know a few people that are big into "oiling" right now and got some for anxiety/stress and one for fertility. I'm not 100% sold its going to make a huge impact, but it wasn't ridiculously expensive to try it and it can't hurt. so why not? but it stinks!!!! gross!!! to me anyways......
R/R/CS: I'm not a fan of daylight savings time either......I'm hoping that the next few months will just fly by. I hate to wish time away but that's how I'm feeling. But there is a new job in my area that I plan to apply for and we are going to be doing some training for my current position over the next few weeks so that will help. I'm a little irritated with how my physical therapy progress is going or should I say not going and I called this morning to see if I could go in earlier for my appt today because I wanted to chat with the guy, but they said I wasn't even on the schedule for today because he's out of the office. Which I knew, but I was supposed to get put on the other therapists schedule......Grrrrr......I've got a lot today!! Its AF and her evil ways......TTC related, my rant is that I am truly amazed anybody gets a BFP with a 20% chance each cycle. Its truly a miracle. And I'm just anxious to get things going with RE and see whats next. Hoping that our tests come back clear at this point so hopefully we won't need to do anything super crazy to get a BFP.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? I just picked up a new bottle @ Costco the other day, my bottle of 250 is almost gone and I started taking them in May.....that kind of sucked because I thought for sure I'd have gotten a BFP before that bottle was gone.
@PrettyPalomino It could happen still, may just take you a little longer to O.
@hummingbird125 With longer/irregular cycles it may take you a little while longer to find a "normal" if you even have one. OPKS are tough because they are a secondary sign and some women get multiple surges. Also were you refraining from drinking water in the afternoons before using OPK? Some women find them to be very sensitive and you could dilute the sample you are using if you are drinking too much before using the OPKS. I think you are supposed to avoid drinking anything for 2-3 hours.
@KDHB13 I'd just keep checking the CP/CM. I believe you want to check them both multiple times a day and record what you find to be the most fertile. Drinking more water is supposed to help with CM from what I've heard.
@styler91 Yes, you read my mind about staying home!!
@0SeaMonkey0 I wish I had some insight for you, sorry!!
@TheTamedShrew Drinking alcohol can definitely have an effect on your temps!
@Katm89 I'm glad you have an appt already lined up to see your dr. Its probably nothing serious or major, but glad you are going in.
@AshPat0525 I can totally relate to how you are feeling. What I think about most is how different things are going to be between DH and I. Its been just the 2 of us and the dog for the last 8 years. I think about how we will change, because surely we will. I know it will not be the same. And as much as I want a BFP and a baby, I just would hate to see our relationship fall apart or have things change drastically. So I worry about that to the point that sometimes I think we should just skip the baby part and go on an amazing vacation every year instead. but I know those are just my super irrational crazy thoughts running through my head because I'd take a baby any day over an amazing vacation. I also think about the whole newborn phase and from watching my best friend recently go through it, its hard. It is not a cake walk. I think there is a lot of reward with parenting, but there can be so many challenges and heart break too. I know where you are coming from.
R/R/CS: Ugh it's Monday... what happened to the weekend? I don't really have any updates today only that DH and I are just going to "relax" more so I don't get too stressed about this and the upcoming holidays. I realize a lot of people hear the whole "just relax and it will happen", but I'm thinking if I attempt to keep my stress level down between work, the craziness of the holidays, and TTC, we should be in an okay spot. (I'm saying this now on Nov 2nd, so we'll see what happens after talking with Mom in a few weeks as we plan for Thanksgiving...)
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? vitafusion gummies with a calcium & vitamin D gummy at night.
R/R/CS: We had signed up for Aflac effective September 1, and part of me was worried that if we had conceived last month we would be so close to the 10 month wait time for delivery (even though I know there is always a chance for pre-term) I was worried that we would miss the date by just a day or two.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? CVS generic
Married since 9/2014 TTC since 7/2015 BFP 12/24/2015 Miscarriage 3/4/2015 at 14 weeks Baby Girl BFP 9/10/2016 EDD 5/23/17
WAYDTGKU: BBT, CM, CP (once AF clears up), and I just ordered wondfos for the first time
R/R/CS: This last cycle had a weird 17 day LP (I'm usually 11-12) and after the negative tests convinced me this was not the cycle, I'm actually glad to be started fresh finally.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? CVS prenatal + a seperate algae derived DHA. I convinced DH to start on zinc and folate this cycle as well. We don't have any reason to believe that there's an issue with his sperm, but it can only help.
@MNturnsVA I know what you mean. 20% feels low. Although I just saw an excerpt from a natural pregnancy book that said a more positive way to look at it was that you have like an 80% chance of conceiving in a year. I like that better.
Oh and I already ordered my period present this weekend after I got a BFN at 14 DPO. We plan on decorating our future baby's nursery in a cute monster theme, which is not unlike the cute monsters and zombies in other parts of the house, and there's an Etsy seller that makes tiny clay monsters. I've decided to order a tiny one for each passed cycle and then a big one (she makes different sizes) when we get the BFP. So periods may be a bummer but I'll get to have the little monsters around the house to smile about, and eventually a bigger one to celebrate the baby.
@MNturnsVA i did use OPK in July, September and now October (skipped August during honeymoon). The pattern I see is a first peak at the beggining of fertile week where the line gets the same as control and lots of CM to the point where I'm sure I'm O (ovulation varies from day 17 to day 25 in the past 8 months...) and then no more CM for 2 days, pale OPK and when I'm starting to think its anovulary month bang second surge, less CM but still ECWM and temp rise (well not yet this month) this has been happening since my CP 2 cycles ago. So maybe my body is still recovering from the CP. I'm just annoyed my cycle are getting longer (well not as bad as other on the board) and AF getting lighter and thinner
R/R/CS: I have found myself back at CD 1. I never even made it out of WTO last cycle.
It looks to me like I just had an anovulatory cycle. I geared up to ovulate but never had the temp shift to confirm. However, the cycle was only 29 days, a bit shorter than my normal 32-35 day cycles, and I thought anovulatory cycles tend to be longer. I saw a definite temp shift the previous cycle, but had some sinus issues/mouth breathing this cycle (both temping orally). I also noticed that the temperature in the house got much cooler with the weather outside this cycle. (Also, I have the mabis thermometer that everyone loves, so I don't think it's that.) So my questions: do you think last cycle was actually anovulatory or did I miss the temp shift? Would you recommend vaginal temping for this cycle? I definitely have a date with TCOYF tonight!
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Spring Valley from Walmart. I'm thinking about adding one with DHA soon, though.
WAYDTGKU: Half-assed charting, sex for fun and hopefully at least EOD in FW, cutting back on caffeine, eating healthier, OPKs
R/R/CS: It seems like my body is gearing up to O, and I kind of really hope it is. I haven't ovulated before CD29 (except my first cycle but only had a 5 day LP) so to O sooner would mean my cycles might be getting back to my old regular before I had my son. Unfortunately my lazy temping might not be much help to confirm it.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC?
I think they're VitaFusion gummies. The pills make me feel sick so I prefer gummies.
@MNturnsVA Yea I was really lucky that I was due for my annual pap around when we started ttc... I have too many questions I think I may overwhelm her...
@AshPat0525 I will update you on what she says. I'm hoping it means nothing and it won't affect ttc... they may just get longer and longer once my body adjusts after bcps. I assumed my first couple cycles would be effed up from bcps... but my first 3 off were perfect and then my 4th was sooo off... but its probably my body trying to work without the residual hormones in my system helping it speed things along.
R/R/CS: I'm annoyed with my weird cycles atm. Also annoyed that I didn't start charting sooner so I could know why my last cycle was off.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Garden of Life vitamin code raw prenatal. They are amazing and don't make me sick like all the others I've tried. Also Udo's 3-6-9 blend with DHA.
Does anyone know if it is ok to take evening primrose oil while TTC? I've read that its helpful for fertility up until you ovulate, but not after, which makes me nervous.
Wait.
So, there's a vitamin/supplement I need to get DH on too! @housewifehobbyist
It's technically recommended for men with fertility issues, but besides the cost of the vitamins there's no big downside. We're only four months in, so we're not about to go get a SA done just yet, but I am wanting to do everything I can each cycle to get that BFP. The study is below if anyone is interested.
"Subfertile men demonstrated a significant 74% increase in total normal sperm count and a minor increase of 4% abnormal spermatozoa. A similar trend was observed in fertile men."
@MNturnsVA - Thank you! Actually that could be to blame. I usually use the bathroom early in the morning, and I didn't use the first OPK until about 10 or 11, so I probably hadn't drank too much water before then, but I usually stay pretty hydrated, so maybe my later tests were diluted? Either way, will be keeping my fingers crossed for a temp rise tomorrow morning or the next day...
@AshPat0525 I can totally relate to how you are feeling. What I think about most is how different things are going to be between DH and I. Its been just the 2 of us and the dog for the last 8 years. I think about how we will change, because surely we will. I know it will not be the same. And as much as I want a BFP and a baby, I just would hate to see our relationship fall apart or have things change drastically. So I worry about that to the point that sometimes I think we should just skip the baby part and go on an amazing vacation every year instead. but I know those are just my super irrational crazy thoughts running through my head because I'd take a baby any day over an amazing vacation. I also think about the whole newborn phase and from watching my best friend recently go through it, its hard. It is not a cake walk. I think there is a lot of reward with parenting, but there can be so many challenges and heart break too. I know where you are coming from.
Yes! Thank you for understanding! I also think about that, how our relationship will change because it is obviously inevitable. I know he's going to be an amazing dad but sometimes it's scary to think about us both loving another little human so much more! I guess the only way I keep sane is by being happy in the now while still being excited about the future - that helps!
@housewifehobbyist sorry about CD1 but glad you're getting started on the next cycle! I stalked your chart on TWW and if you just look at the temps, that dip at "5 dpo" could have been O, in which case it was only a 12-day LP. Anyway, it's over now, but maybe it wasn't that weird? (I don't even know if I'm trying to be reassuring here or what but I'd thought of it so decided to mention it. Feel free to ignore me!)
R/R/CS: It's looking like my body is aligning with FF this month which will make timing much easier than last. \:D/ And I'm with you @KASG about FF's VIP! I'm glad I can still chart everything but it would be nice to have the analysis too.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Walmart generic, Nature-something I think?
WAYDTGKU: Taking it easy this month, while still trying (if that makes any sense). I'm going to be charting so I can get an idea of my cycle.
R/R/CS: Who knew there was so much thought and planning goes into all this. Since it's my first month charting, I'm just trying to figure all this out. Read and learn as much as I can.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Rainbow Light and a DHA supplement.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32 TTC Since 11/2015 #1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
WAYDTGKU: OPK, temp, FF, Cm checking, preseed, worrying, prenatals
R/R/CS: Warning: Whining about temping yet again. I wake up and different times every day. Thinking I need to start setting a 3am alarm to avoid the anxiety waking. However, how do I avoid waking up DH during these wakes?
Had another positive OPK yesterday and a temp drop the last two days...crossing my fingers my body is gearing up to O. I had a fake out OPK a few days ago so let's see what happens. The waiting game is rough. Real rough.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Megafood "Baby and Me"
Edit: chart didn't work and I wanted to add:
I really wish I could help ladies who ask for a chart stalk because I know what it feels like to be super anxious about temping! I'm still learning myself so I feel my interpretation would be bogus. Ha!
@ashpat0525 - I've definitely had similar feelings. I used to have them a lot more when we weren't as professionally or financially stable. I know you can never really be prepared for a baby but it was taking us so long to get on our feet that at times I thought we would never be in the position to TTC. I'm also not willing to give up certain luxuries if I can help it (obviously layoffs and the like will change plans) and wanted to wait to TTC until we were in a position to do both. I also go to therapy occasionally and she helped me realize that all of my worries about a kid were "what ifs" and nothing concrete, which is a completely normal anxiety.
I spent a lot of time deciding if I really wanted a kid and for a while I considered the pros and cons of having one versus living child-free. It wasn't as black and white as I thought it would be but I received some amazing insight during the process. I was looking at the two options as "What do I get out of each option?" but she told me I couldn't think about parenthood that way. It's not about what you can get out of it, but about what you can give. That simple statement really changed a lot of my mindset. Now I spend less time worrying about how it might negatively impact my life or relationship and more time thinking about how much love and compassion we have to give a child.
R/R/CS: Today was day 5 of high fertility reading, so not really sure what to think. I hope I can get peak eventually. Today is day 3 of EWCM so can't complain about that!
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Nature Made prenatal with DHA
WAYDTGKU: temping, OPK, BD at least every other day
R/R/CS: ouch, I didn't expect my post birth control period to be so awful.... But my rave is that my DH and I are really excited and it's just nice to share this with him and feel so close.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Rainbow lite prenatals
@mom2adoodle I set my alarm for 3am. The first night DH heard it but since then he's just slept through it...I think once his brain knew the alarm was going to happen it just learned to ignore it!
Noticed your screen name (or whatever its called) - do you have a doodle? We have a one year old golden doodle! She is crazy and awesome! Such a fun girl to have around!!
@hkb1988 I think I might try the 3am thing next cycle. Taking charge of your fertility says that an hour variance in wake up time isn't bad but I hate the open circles FF gives me! They give me anxiety.
We do have a female labradoodle She a year and a half! We love her to death. I'm sure yours is just as sweet. They're great breeds! Can't be the non-shedding.
For those of you whose charts are attached each day in your signature (and not as a link like mine) do you literally screenshot it every day and add it, or is there a way to automatically make it show up each day updated?
Now that I'm typing, I'm guessing you do it somewhat like a GIF, except it's a still frame, and it would have to be in your signature, not just each post.
Month/Cycle: 5/4 CD: 7 WAYDTGKU: AF is finally gone, so time to get back at it. Charting everything, PNV, sex EOD/ED R/R/CS: Just glad AF is gone! GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Nature Made brand PNV with DHA
@KASG I went to my FF chart website (like the one in your siggy), found the image location like you would for a gif (right click copy image location) and added that into my signature using the image insert tool. FF uses a unique URL for each chart though so my way requires updating the image link each cycle. I haven't updated mine to the current cycle yet.
@ashpat0525 - I've definitely had similar feelings. I used to have them a lot more when we weren't as professionally or financially stable. I know you can never really be prepared for a baby but it was taking us so long to get on our feet that at times I thought we would never be in the position to TTC. I'm also not willing to give up certain luxuries if I can help it (obviously layoffs and the like will change plans) and wanted to wait to TTC until we were in a position to do both. I also go to therapy occasionally and she helped me realize that all of my worries about a kid were "what ifs" and nothing concrete, which is a completely normal anxiety.
I spent a lot of time deciding if I really wanted a kid and for a while I considered the pros and cons of having one versus living child-free. It wasn't as black and white as I thought it would be but I received some amazing insight during the process. I was looking at the two options as "What do I get out of each option?" but she told me I couldn't think about parenthood that way. It's not about what you can get out of it, but about what you can give. That simple statement really changed a lot of my mindset. Now I spend less time worrying about how it might negatively impact my life or relationship and more time thinking about how much love and compassion we have to give a child.
That is some really great insight! That is really the best way to think about it is not taking away but adding to our lives. I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a thoughtful response, all good advice that I will definitely utilize, thank you!
Re: WTO Monday
Me (32) Dx PCOS, DH (32) SA = Normal/mild morph issues
TTC#5 July 2017 - 3rd cycle TTC = BFP on 11/12/17 at 9dpo Beta #1 = 96 at 13dpo - Beta #2 = 207 at 15dpo
3 rounds of Clomid + TI and 3 rounds of 7.5 mg Femara + IUI before our BFP on 11/8/10 at 12dpiui
TTC #2 3rd cycle of Femara 7.5mg+Ovidrel+TI = 4 follies = BFP on 10/12/12
TTC#3 July 2014 - Metformin +TI = BFP at 9dpo - Twins, one baby lost at 5.5 weeks
Macy Annabelle born at 37w4d on 4/29/15. Diagnosed with Cri du Chat and passed away on 6/6/15. Forever in our hearts.
TTC#4 3rd cycle of Metformin + Femara 7.5mg+Ovidrel+TI = 3 follies = BFP on 12/24/16
LFAF April Siggy Challenge - TV/Movie BFFS - Romy & Michele
My periods have been so short and light since coming off BC! 2 days - 3 max and that's including a day of spotting. It is the weirdest thing because I used to have intense periods and painful cramping and now it's like I barely even notice AF besides the light flow. I don't want to complain because it seems like a good deal to me lol just hope it doesn't have anything to do with my fertility! Definitely update with what your doctor has to say
TTC since 7/2015
BFP 12/24/2015 Miscarriage 3/4/2015 at 14 weeks
Baby Girl BFP 9/10/2016 EDD 5/23/17
TTC #2 since Mar 2017
DX: MF June 2019, varicocele embolization Jan 2020, good improvement (14 mil, low motility)
IUI#1 Aug 2020 - BFN
IVF #1 Dec 2020 (ICSI) - ER, freeze-all - 15 retrieved, 15 mature, 15 fertilized. 4 embryos frozen, all day 5 blasts!
FET #1 Feb 2021 - BFN
FET #2 Apr 2021 - BFP 5DP5DT!! Beta #1 13DP5DT (17DPO) = HcG 1,238. Beta #2 17DP5DT (21DPO) = HcG 8,269
RE Dx-Unexplained IF: 06/2015
BFP #3: 03/11/16 - CP
BFP #4: 04/09/16 - DD born 12/2016
TTC since 7/2015
BFP 12/24/2015 Miscarriage 3/4/2015 at 14 weeks
Baby Girl BFP 9/10/2016 EDD 5/23/17
Month/Cycle: 4/4
CD: 1
WAYDTGKU: For today, a pity party.
R/R/CS: I have found myself back at CD 1. I never even made it out of WTO last cycle.
It looks to me like I just had an anovulatory cycle. I geared up to ovulate but never had the temp shift to confirm. However, the cycle was only 29 days, a bit shorter than my normal 32-35 day cycles, and I thought anovulatory cycles tend to be longer. I saw a definite temp shift the previous cycle, but had some sinus issues/mouth breathing this cycle (both temping orally). I also noticed that the temperature in the house got much cooler with the weather outside this cycle. (Also, I have the mabis thermometer that everyone loves, so I don't think it's that.) So my questions: do you think last cycle was actually anovulatory or did I miss the temp shift? Would you recommend vaginal temping for this cycle? I definitely have a date with TCOYF tonight!
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Spring Valley from Walmart. I'm thinking about adding one with DHA soon, though.
**TW**
Testing with RE October 2016
BFP 11/5/2016 ~ EDD 7/19/2016
BFP on 7/2/2013
@AshPat0525 I will update you on what she says. I'm hoping it means nothing and it won't affect ttc... they may just get longer and longer once my body adjusts after bcps. I assumed my first couple cycles would be effed up from bcps... but my first 3 off were perfect and then my 4th was sooo off... but its probably my body trying to work without the residual hormones in my system helping it speed things along.
So, there's a vitamin/supplement I need to get DH on too! @housewifehobbyist
Sorry to the other CD1 ladies. Cheers!
CD: 13
WAYDTGKU: Everything
R/R/CS: It's looking like my body is aligning with FF this month which will make timing much easier than last. \:D/
And I'm with you @KASG about FF's VIP! I'm glad I can still chart everything but it would be nice to have the analysis too.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Walmart generic, Nature-something I think?
CD: 4
WAYDTGKU: Taking it easy this month, while still trying (if that makes any sense). I'm going to be charting so I can get an idea of my cycle.
R/R/CS: Who knew there was so much thought and planning goes into all this. Since it's my first month charting, I'm just trying to figure all this out. Read and learn as much as I can.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Rainbow Light and a DHA supplement.
** December BMB Siggy Challenge - Animals in Pools **
Me: 31+ H: 32
TTC Since 11/2015
#1 - MMC 6.5 weeks (2/16); #2 - MC due to cystic hygroma at 20 weeks (10/16); #3 CP (2/17); #4 - Due 12.16.17
TTC #2... Hoping for PINK!
CD: 6
WAYDTGKU: temping, OPK, BD at least every other day
R/R/CS: ouch, I didn't expect my post birth control period to be so awful.... But my rave is that my DH and I are really excited and it's just nice to share this with him and feel so close.
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Rainbow lite prenatals
CD: 7
WAYDTGKU: AF is finally gone, so time to get back at it. Charting everything, PNV, sex EOD/ED
R/R/CS: Just glad AF is gone!
GTKY: What pre-natals/vitamins are you taking to prep for TTC? Nature Made brand PNV with DHA
That is some really great insight! That is really the best way to think about it is not taking away but adding to our lives. I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a thoughtful response, all good advice that I will definitely utilize, thank you!