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  • My UO is that I think it's important to raise your children exposed to pets so that they know how to be gentle to pets and animals in general. My 2 yr old knows how to act around not only our dogs but other people's pets.

    Yes, because clearly if people don't get their children pets, they will never be gentle with animals /sarcasm/

    I can teach my child to be gentle, nice, caring without having a pet or dealing with other peoples' obnoxious dogs.

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  • Achae said:
    Apparently this is a UO, at least for my husband. I will let baby play in the kitchen with my spoons, spatulas, etc. I don't care that they're not her "baby toys" she wants to explore, I let her! He flips out that I let her play in there "and make a mess." Oh okay buddy.
    What? this was the only way I could make dinner when my first was younger. Before my husband and I customized a toy kitchen set from IKEA, I used to keep all my plastic and metal mixing bowls and random utensils in one of the lower cabinets and let him go to town banging and playing. Now he 'cooks' in his own kitchen next to ours when I cook;  (this was our main Christmas present for him last year)
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    That Ikea kitchen set is awesome!  I like it because it's wood and not plastic so it looks classier to be put in the kitchen.  I might need to convince hubby to let me get one for our 2 year old when we go to Ikea to buy the nursery furniture for our February baby.
  • I put my dogs in their room if I have other kids over now. Not to protect the kids but to protect my dogs. I once found a 2 yr old cornering my 7 lb Maltese and trying to run it over with a large ( as big as my dog) toy truck. My dog was so terrified it peed. About 6 months later, I had my first and my little dog is still terrified of all babies and toddlers. My UO is that I think it's important to raise your children exposed to pets so that they know how to be gentle to pets and animals in general. My 2 yr old knows how to act around not only our dogs but other people's pets.
    I don't have any pets and I agree with you. My son has plenty of exposure through extended family and friends and he loves dogs. He also knows not to touch dogs he doesn't know. We are still working on the be gentle part, but right now he is never unsupervised around pets.
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  • We always put our dogs away when we have company over, not because we don't trust but just because they are pretty much annoying lol - they get super excited and want the new person to pet them the whole time and actually when my niece came over a few weeks ago our female was just submitting to her and would not leave her alone (we don't have company over too often honestly so yeah, they don't listen too well when we do) so it's just easier for everyone if we put them away before our guests even walk thru the door.
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  • VitaLuna said:
    My UO is that I think it's important to raise your children exposed to pets so that they know how to be gentle to pets and animals in general. My 2 yr old knows how to act around not only our dogs but other people's pets.
    Yes, because clearly if people don't get their children pets, they will never be gentle with animals /sarcasm/ I can teach my child to be gentle, nice, caring without having a pet or dealing with other peoples' obnoxious dogs.
    hahaha. No. Like @wisco29 said, I didn't say you must have a pet at home.  I think it's important to expose all kids to animals early on and teach them how to interact with them. This includes knowing the dangers of unknown dogs/ cats/ animals. No everyone can have a pet at home (allergies, expenses, time management, living where pets aren't allowed.....) , but it's easy to make a conscious effort to provide your children with opportunities to be around other domesticated animals and teach them how to approach, to ask the owners if they can pet prior to getting close, to not disturb when they look/ seem agitated or eating.... 


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  • I don't know if this is a popular opinion or an unpopular opinion, but people who compare having a dog to having a baby drive me crazy.  No, getting up early to take your dog out is not the same as getting up at night to feed a newborn.  No, having a destructive puppy is not the same as having a destructive toddler.  You can put your destructive puppy in a crate and go get a Starbucks if you are at the end of your rope.  Comparing your dog to my baby does not make you sounds sympathetic, it makes you sound ignorant - and clearly you have never had children.
    I call my cats my babies. I am mother to an almost 19 year old, too so nope not ignorant to the ways of having children. They're my babies because they rely on me for everything. 

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  • AdventureMama said:Yeah like I said in one of my previous comments, my friend's daughter was attacked a few weeks ago at a work picnic. The dog took out chunks of her thigh and broke several ribs and did some other damage. It was a terrifying experience for all of them. And from a dog that has children in his family and has been docile his entire life. The owners were completely shocked. Even great dogs can get startled or scared and really hurt someone. It made me really rethink how to teach DS to approach dogs. It hasn't really been an issue yet but I'm sure it will be soon as he is in the stroller less and less.
    Yes, this is so important. I am a dog nut, but I also am aware that not all dogs are alike, and I teach my child that. They need to know that there are dangerous dogs, gentle dogs in certain situation that become dangerous and such. My dogs are very docile but I teach my child that not all dogs are like that. 

    My two dogs and my mother in law were horrifically attacked by a hunting dog that was not properly managed by the owner. We were visiting my in laws and their neighbor got divorced about a year prior and 3 large hunting dogs that only the husband knew how to deal with, were left with the wife when she got the house. One was being walked by her 90 year old father, he couldn't handle the leash and the power of that dog. The dog came around in to my in law's property as my dogs were outside, attacked my older dog and my mother in law causing severe lacerations on both; my mother in law had to barricade herself and my older dog from the attacker using their outdoor grill and their deck. Once it couldn't get to them anymore, it came into the house through the open laundry door and attacked my younger dog until my husband and I heard the commotion and chased him out. When I notified the animal control and the neighbors found out, it turned out that the same dog had attacked a child (it was caught early so no major injuries) and another one of her dogs attached a small dog in the neighborhood. People wanted to be nice neighbors and didn't want to ruffle any feathers so no one reported these incidents. 
    This is what happened to my older dog, the vet said it had the hunting grip on him (bite around his neck area so that it can shake it to death). Those are tubes to allow any puss to drain out. 
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  • @Monkeybutt80 , I hope your dog has recovered. She looks so stricken. Poorthing.
  • @notasycophant Thank you. This was about 4 years ago, and even though they were traumatized for awhile, they both recovered really well. For a couple of years, my heart definitely skipped a beat every time I saw any large hunting dogs at petsmart or at the vets. But I think they have now forgotten about it (beauty of tiny brains in tiny dogs), sadly my husband and I will never forget it. I really thought I was going to lose him that day while we frantically looked for an ER vet that was open on Easter sunday in a town that we weren't familiar with, as he was bleeding in my arms. 
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  • @Monkeybutt80 , I can't imagine forgetting something traumatic like that ! I'm glad he recovered.. but that picture though.. so heartbreaking:(
  • Yes. I had never just let DS run up to other peoples' pets willy nilly, but I did let him pet them if they said it was ok and remind him to be gentle. Now every time we see a dog I say that we need to stay back and I hold him, and usually I try to avoid letting him interact with them but if they're friendly and we're at a park or something, I will approach the dog with him in my arms, keeping my body between him and the dog, and I will pet the dog first. Then I help him let the dog, always talking about being gentle and where we should pet the dog, and I don't move from between them and I don't let him go. And I try to end it quickly. He's only 23 months so he doesn't really understand, but he will and I want caution and short gentle pats to be the habit. I also now never ever leave the room when we are at my ILs and their dog is out, even though they play well together.
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  • NoelBird said:

    I hate when I go to a friend's house with pets when their owners ignore their pet assaulting me. I dont want your 50 pound dogs jumping on me or sticking their nose in my crotch the entire time. I understand it is their home but you need to offer your guests courtesy too. I avoid some peoples houses just because of this.

    Ugh, yes! I am not a dog person, generally. I hate when they lick me, I hate when they jump on me, they make me nervous when my kid is around (my friend's toddler was recently viciously attacked by a large dog who was supposedly super friendly and grew up around kids). The worst is when they're jumping on you or sniffing your crotch and when you tell them to stop or push them away, the owner gives you a dirty look like you're in the wrong. Uhh. No. Control your dog. That's just rude.


    I got bit in the face by a large dog when I was 5. I almost lost an eye. I cannot stand the smell of wet dog.

    I think that it's nice when people who have dogs put them in another room so that they don't bother guests.

  • I don't know if this is a popular opinion or an unpopular opinion, but people who compare having a dog to having a baby drive me crazy.  No, getting up early to take your dog out is not the same as getting up at night to feed a newborn.  No, having a destructive puppy is not the same as having a destructive toddler.  You can put your destructive puppy in a crate and go get a Starbucks if you are at the end of your rope.  Comparing your dog to my baby does not make you sounds sympathetic, it makes you sound ignorant - and clearly you have never had children.


    Omg. I love you. My husband's cat is an absolute terror. He won't get rid of it because he claims that it's family. He compares it to my son. My son is well behaved. He doesn't scratch up $10,000 worth of furniture (the furniture that I bought...some of it was new), meow for attention when we are sleeping, get kitty litter all over the house, leave poop for me to step on, leave hair all over everything, and now we have been dealing with fleas since may. I helped buy our new house and he couldn't tell me that his poor animal had fleas before we moved in here?!?!

    Im at the end of my rope here. :(

  • VitaLuna said:

    @ashton2190 that's not judge worthy (or shouldn't be!) Rule #1 to being a good friend/caregiver when someone is going through a loss or new diagnosis is to NOT compare/tell them about your own experience, not make "at least..." statements, etc. It is hard, because that's our natural response to try to feel connected to the person.

    When people are grieving, they don't need or want to hear about your story. They just want someone to listen. Hopefully your not so unpopular UO opens up some peoples' eyes :)

    I know some people think "well it's hard to know what to say to someone that's grieving and you shouldn't be mad at someone for trying to be nice to you." Well if you don't know what to say, just say you're sorry for their loss and move along with your day. I don't have to be happy with them saying something that irritates me just because they were nice enough to acknowledge my loss

    I find this interesting, because I actually took some comfort in hearing about other people's losses when my son died. I'm not sure how to explain, but it made me feel like I wasn't alone and I could look at them and realize that life could go on.
    To be clear, this really only applied to other losses involving children. When people would tell me about losing another family member, sometimes I wanted to explain that it's not the same thing as losing a child. I still felt sorry for their loss but it made me feel like they just didn't understand.

    So maybe I'm in the minority? I appreciate when people have been in a similar experience.
    I'd like to know, because I share my experiences with people going through difficult times (if I have been through it) and If this practice is making people upset I'd like to know!


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  • VitaLuna said:

    wisco29 said:

    I don't like the new pumpkin spice latte from Starbucks. It's supposed to be better with "real" pumpkin but I don't like it.

    (I've only had it iced so far this year. Waiting for cool weather to try it hot)

    I don't plan on trying one from Starbucks this year, I used to like them, but the last two years they have tasted gross and I didn't even finish my drink. We have some coffee shops around here with better options.

    I personally would take an eggnog latte over PSL any day. Can't wait!

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    I haven't had the new ones this year, but I discovered that I prefer them with half the flavoring.
    I love pumpkin flavored stuff (except pumpkin pie!) but I don't think it's strange that lots of people don't :-)


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  • salixjoy38salixjoy38 member
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    Re: dogs as people's babies. I honestly don't know anyone who would argue that dogs are as much work as babies. And more people have said this to me about our dog, especially when she was a puppy or when she had a serious eye injury and we had to put drops in her eye every hour (including all night) for a week, than I have ever said this about my dog. And the people who say it don't even have dogs themselves necessarily. Really, I don't know if I have ever said this. But really I think most people mean that getting a dog, and particularly a puppy, is a life change that is SIMILAR to, not exactly the same as, having a baby. You must be able to see some analogues between the two - getting up multiple times to take a dog outside to pee in the night, cleaning up housetraining messes, having a new responsibility in your life that means you can't just head out to happy hour or whatever whenever you want. Obviously the puppy phase is way shorter than the infant phase but it still has things in common. 

    I think it's important to recognize others connections with their animals, and to give them the benefit of the doubt that they do see the differences between dogs and animals.

    ETA: between dogs and BABIES! not animals. whoops!
  • I don't know if this is a popular opinion or an unpopular opinion, but people who compare having a dog to having a baby drive me crazy.  No, getting up early to take your dog out is not the same as getting up at night to feed a newborn.  No, having a destructive puppy is not the same as having a destructive toddler.  You can put your destructive puppy in a crate and go get a Starbucks if you are at the end of your rope.  Comparing your dog to my baby does not make you sounds sympathetic, it makes you sound ignorant - and clearly you have never had children.

    Omg. I love you. My husband's cat is an absolute terror. He won't get rid of it because he claims that it's family. He compares it to my son. My son is well behaved. He doesn't scratch up $10,000 worth of furniture (the furniture that I bought...some of it was new), meow for attention when we are sleeping, get kitty litter all over the house, leave poop for me to step on, leave hair all over everything, and now we have been dealing with fleas since may. I helped buy our new house and he couldn't tell me that his poor animal had fleas before we moved in here?!?! Im at the end of my rope here. :(

    I'd get rid of the person in my life before I let them tell me I needed to get rid of my pet. Edited for spelling.
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  • I went to a friend's house for brunch recently. She has two cats and a dog. I found all three animals' hair in the food she served us. I can't do any hair in my food (even my own!). I just shut down. I'm never eating there again. If it's a problem, please just invite me to a restaurant instead!

    Even I won't eat with my animals hair in food! They don't go into the kitchen in our house, (I have the exact same amount of pets) and they only shed when you pet them. Gross! Talk about unsanitary for your friend too! Hair isn't good for the body!
  • NoelBird said:

    I hate when I go to a friend's house with pets when their owners ignore their pet assaulting me. I dont want your 50 pound dogs jumping on me or sticking their nose in my crotch the entire time. I understand it is their home but you need to offer your guests courtesy too. I avoid some peoples houses just because of this.

    My dog is a lap dog, if I had a big dog that jumped it would be way different in my house. I'm only 5'1 and I work with dogs, mostly big dogs too, so I know they can overwhelm people. My dog doesn't even weigh 15 pounds, she was beaten by people as a puppy so if you don't let her she never shuts up and she is terrified.
  • UO- the board policing. When someone starts a new thread, or repeat themselves, and people are snarky and jump down their throat. Relax. Its not the end of the world. No need to scream SEARCH. We're all in the same boat here. Just be nice is all I'm saying. How is a repeated thread hurting anyone. Just nicely redirect them if it bothers you. I know I'll hear it for this one, but just my UO.
  • Lola2o1 said:
    UO- the board policing. When someone starts a new thread, or repeat themselves, and people are snarky and jump down their throat. Relax. Its not the end of the world. No need to scream SEARCH. We're all in the same boat here. Just be nice is all I'm saying. How is a repeated thread hurting anyone. Just nicely redirect them if it bothers you. I know I'll hear it for this one, but just my UO.
    The reason it's bothersome is because when things get posted repeatedly, the stuff that really does need attention gets pushed to the bottom of the board.

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  • @AdventureMama 1) I have been here long enough and post enough. 2) thank you for proving my point about the snark. 3)I know it has been addressed but it is my UO and i wanted to vent. That's all:)

  • wisco29 said:
    I don't like the new pumpkin spice latte from Starbucks. It's supposed to be better with "real" pumpkin but I don't like it. (I've only had it iced so far this year. Waiting for cool weather to try it hot)
    I tore UP a Pumpkin Spice frap today!!!




  • @AdventureMama I've never even heard those phrases before. Who comes up with these things?? @jaimeruns my H's descriptors of his injuries are always eyeroll worthy. "I tore my finger open". No, you scratched you finger. Chill out.
    @VitaLuna probably the same people who came up with "Bae." My UO for the day, I hate the term "Bae" thats nails on the chalkboard to me; also, I hate the whole shortening of words (i.e. "fab, gorg, totes" etc. ) and here on the west coast that vocabulary is still rampant
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  • VitaLuna said:
    My UO is that I think it's important to raise your children exposed to pets so that they know how to be gentle to pets and animals in general. My 2 yr old knows how to act around not only our dogs but other people's pets.
    Yes, because clearly if people don't get their children pets, they will never be gentle with animals /sarcasm/ I can teach my child to be gentle, nice, caring without having a pet or dealing with other peoples' obnoxious dogs.
    Whaaaaaaa? Not what she said at all.




  • I didn't grow up with pets in our home. My mom had 5 kids. I have a 10 yr old, a 7 month old and I'm pregnant with twins.

    I'm much like my mom is in her attitude towards animals so if u gals don't like me bc of how I was raised then that's fine. We kept our many pets outside bc my mom was too busy cooking and cleaning for 5 children. I'm amazed that she was able to do what she did for us so I am about to be in the same boat. Plus, I'm carrying 2 placentas right now and I'm very emotional bc I have 2 X as much hormones than a singular pregnancy. I hope that I didn't hurt anybody's feelings but I'm just sharing with you my story and where I'm coming from on this subject.

    I'm not sure if I'm liking these UO bc I saw ladies fighting over girls' clothing styles in the last thread and I felt like some posters were misunderstood. It's fine to have different opinions on issues but we shouldn't be tearing each other down. We are all just pregnant, hormonal, hungry, cranky Mom's to be.
  • I didn't grow up with pets in our home. My mom had 5 kids. I have a 10 yr old, a 7 month old and I'm pregnant with twins.

    I'm much like my mom is in her attitude towards animals so if u gals don't like me bc of how I was raised then that's fine. We kept our many pets outside bc my mom was too busy cooking and cleaning for 5 children. I'm amazed that she was able to do what she did for us so I am about to be in the same boat. Plus, I'm carrying 2 placentas right now and I'm very emotional bc I have 2 X as much hormones than a singular pregnancy. I hope that I didn't hurt anybody's feelings but I'm just sharing with you my story and where I'm coming from on this subject.

    I'm not sure if I'm liking these UO bc I saw ladies fighting over girls' clothing styles in the last thread and I felt like some posters were misunderstood. It's fine to have different opinions on issues but we shouldn't be tearing each other down. We are all just pregnant, hormonal, hungry, cranky Mom's to be.

    If you can't properly take care of a pet, you shouldn't be adopting them. When you adopt a pet, you are making a commitment to give them proper shelter- in addition to a lot of other things.

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