Chromosomal tests?

VOR · August 2015

dragonfly321 said:

Because it is selfish and inconsiderate. People DREAM about nothing more than having a healthy baby. And some don't get that wish. You throwing it in their faces with your "gender" excitement is just plain rude. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you probably won't.

See, I don't understand this logic.

"OMG!!!! YOU DARE TO WANT TO KNOW YOUR BABY'S SEX??????? What about all the women who might not have healthy babies!?!?!". Huh?

Wouldn't simply coming to these forums where there is ALL KIND OF TALK about babies, healthy babies, non-complicated pregnancies, etc - wouldn't all that, in theory, be upsettting too? Why isn't the entire basis of this board, this forum, also selfish and inconsiderate? Why isn't talking about your healthy baby "throwing it in their face?" What is it about being excited to want to know your child's sex that is just OH SO horrible that you all have to flame it and QFP it left and right?

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wisco29 · August 2015

minivanmafia · August 2015

wisco29 said:

Is he eating.... MUD?

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wisco29 · August 2015

I don't think you understand what qfp means.

minivanmafia · August 2015

wisco29 said:
I don't think you understand what qfp means.

Apparently people don't "lurk" like they say they do...

wisco29 · August 2015

That and I don't think it's coincidence that someone who started a different mud thread happens to be a white knight on this one... Yet the usual white knight suspects are no where to be seen.
(I am sure they will appear now.....)

minivanmafia · August 2015

Very true. I still call this MUD... No post history other than this thread... Probably an old AE and they found the password and ready to play.... Also they know what stirs up drama here... Movement and Gender v Sex... Seems like another but I can't think of it.

eclaires · August 2015

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1407349

Tl;dr: NIPT testing of ROUTINE prenatal populations (ie NOT high risk moms) has BETTER outcomes than the basic NT test.

eclaires · August 2015

eclaires said:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1407349

Tl;dr: NIPT testing of ROUTINE prenatal populations (ie NOT high risk moms) has BETTER outcomes than the basic NT test.

QFP

wisco29 · August 2015

eclaires said:

eclaires said:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1407349

Tl;dr: NIPT testing of ROUTINE prenatal populations (ie NOT high risk moms) has BETTER outcomes than the basic NT test.
QFP

Bless your heart. Even if you quote yourself... It defeats the point. The point of quoting someone is so that they can not change their post later when they take back what they said, change their mind, or whatever thing they decide. If you quote yourself you can still edit both posts

wisco29 · August 2015

eclaires said:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1407349

Tl;dr: NIPT testing of ROUTINE prenatal populations (ie NOT high risk moms) has BETTER outcomes than the basic NT test.

qfp - and I'll use the same gif

MamaFroFro · August 2015

ARogers26 said:
Okay. I wasn't going to join but...

1. I wasn't required to see a genetic counselor.

2. I am not advanced maternal age but had the panorama. It took 8 days to get my results. That doesn't seem like a backlog to me.

3. Before you all jump on me for having the test - my husbands aunt and uncle, so my MILs brother AND sister both have downs. BOTH.
Yes my doctor explained that it was indirect so less likely and I shouldn't worry. But I did.

So what. I don't see the issue of someone getting these tests. It's not like her getting the test takes away the opportunity for someone else to get it.

That being said I wouldn't pay this amount of money to find out the sex early. I am cheap. That is crazy.

It sounds like you had a reason to get the test, and you weren't doing it for the sole purpose of finding out sex, so none of what PPs said was really applicable to your situation.

Like I said before, the backlog I was talking about was in the doctors office, not the laboratory. Under my insurance which is the predominant one in my area, you are required to see one before the test. Also, I can only see a specified list of doctors which creates limited resources.

eclaires · August 2015

There is no evidence of backlog at any significant level with these tests. It's all theoretical. Just like in theory ultrasounds can be backloged.

eclaires · August 2015

wisco29 said:

eclaires said:

eclaires said:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1407349

Tl;dr: NIPT testing of ROUTINE prenatal populations (ie NOT high risk moms) has BETTER outcomes than the basic NT test.
QFP
Bless your heart. Even if you quote yourself... It defeats the point. The point of quoting someone is so that they can not change their post later when they take back what they said, change their mind, or whatever thing they decide. If you quote yourself you can still edit both posts

QFP

I was proud of my point. So I quoted it for posterity.

eclaires · August 2015

And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.

geojam224 · August 2015

I can't stop laughing at the QFPing yourself. @eclaires

minivanmafia · August 2015

geojam224 said:
I can't stop laughing at the QFPing yourself. @eclaires

Haha and I'm so confused at what the hell is going on here...

MamaFroFro · August 2015

RN0107 · August 2015

geojam224 said:
I can't stop laughing at the QFPing yourself. @eclaires

I'm so confused...but I love the gif

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notasycophant · August 2015

eclaires said:
And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.

So you're advocating that low risk women spend money on tests they don't need so laymen understand results better? Doctors and laboratories that provide these tests have a pretty in-depth understanding of these tests as it is. So you make no sense to me.
If people are impatient, have problems with impulse control and can't wait a few weeks they should just come out and say it. What they should not do is make up reasons to justify their lack of self restraint.

kbedfox · August 2015

eclaires said:
There is no evidence of backlog at any significant level with these tests. It's all theoretical. Just like in theory ultrasounds can be backloged.

Well here's where you're wrong, because I was specifically told that my results were delayed due to high volumes. It took over 3 weeks to get my results in, when the timeline is usually 7-10 days. There are so few labs that do each kind of test, more tests doesn't equal more resources to handle them. But please tell us all more about how you're an expert at this.

VOR · August 2015

notasycophant said:

And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.
So you're advocating that low risk women spend money on tests they don't need so laymen understand results better? Doctors and laboratories that provide these tests have a pretty in-depth understanding of these tests as it is. So you make no sense to me. If people are impatient, have problems with impulse control and can't wait a few weeks they should just come out and say it. What they should not do is make up reasons to justify their lack of self restraint.

But why does this board care SO MUCH about what people choose to do w/ their pregnancy and money? You all talk about sparing the feelings of other women, but damn - anyone dares to say they want to find out the sex of their baby or dare to ask a question that was asked a week ago- out come the pitchforks and stakes!

Oh, the irony.

ARogers26 · August 2015

natsfans84 said:

eclaires said:
There is no evidence of backlog at any significant level with these tests. It's all theoretical. Just like in theory ultrasounds can be backloged.
Well here's where you're wrong, because I was specifically told that my results were delayed due to high volumes. It took over 3 weeks to get my results in, when the timeline is usually 7-10 days. There are so few labs that do each kind of test, more tests doesn't equal more resources to handle them. But please tell us all more about how you're an expert at this.

I am asking because I really don't know... Is this the only thing they process?? Or is the backlog also caused by other types of tests?

eclaires · August 2015

natsfans84 said:

eclaires said:
There is no evidence of backlog at any significant level with these tests. It's all theoretical. Just like in theory ultrasounds can be backloged.
Well here's where you're wrong, because I was specifically told that my results were delayed due to high volumes. It took over 3 weeks to get my results in, when the timeline is usually 7-10 days. There are so few labs that do each kind of test, more tests doesn't equal more resources to handle them. But please tell us all more about how you're an expert at this.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

eclaires · August 2015

notasycophant said:

eclaires said:
And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.
So you're advocating that low risk women spend money on tests they don't need so laymen understand results better? Doctors and laboratories that provide these tests have a pretty in-depth understanding of these tests as it is. So you make no sense to me.
If people are impatient, have problems with impulse control and can't wait a few weeks they should just come out and say it. What they should not do is make up reasons to justify their lack of self restraint.

No, I'm advocating that this board lay off castigating low risk women for getting NIPTs.

eclaires · August 2015

Oh and before I peace out I just want to say that even as someone who presents two of the risk categories for testing (AMA and downs in the family) I am STILL okay with low risk women taking the test (even if it's because they are mostly excited to find out sex). Bottom line: these people don't affect me. Nor did they affect my recent NIPT.

notasycophant · August 2015

eclaires said:

notasycophant said:

eclaires said:
And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.
So you're advocating that low risk women spend money on tests they don't need so laymen understand results better? Doctors and laboratories that provide these tests have a pretty in-depth understanding of these tests as it is. So you make no sense to me.
If people are impatient, have problems with impulse control and can't wait a few weeks they should just come out and say it. What they should not do is make up reasons to justify their lack of self restraint.

No, I'm advocating that this board lay off castigating low risk women for getting NIPTs.

Nobody has castigated anyone. Stop making a difference in opinion sound like we're apart of the Salem witch trials. A tad bit melodramatic if you ask me.
I still find your points advocating and excusing the need for instant gratificatiction meritless and rather naive.

Edited:grammar.

dragonfly321 · August 2015

BECAUSE WHEN A WOMAN COMES TO THIS FORUM WITH A LEGITIMATE FEAR, CONCERN OR QUESTION- IT GETS BURIED BY THE 40 POSTS A DAY ON "WHAT IS MY BABY'S *GENDER?!?*" Or "LOOK AT MY ULTRASOUND!"

FFS people, everyone can be excited about the SEX of their baby. There are boutique ultrasound places that can do this for you if you so choose to have it done early, and for a lot cheaper than an actual testing site. But for the love of peas, allow women who actually NEED the tests done to get them done without delay. We have more consideration and sympathy for these ladies than we ever will for the people who post "I feel my baby moving at 4 weeks". You don't like that? There are a ton of other ss places you're more than welcome to visit.

wisco29 · August 2015

VOR said:

notasycophant said:

eclaires said:
And actually the more low risk women who take these tests the better the tests become and the better our understanding of the results become.
So you're advocating that low risk women spend money on tests they don't need so laymen understand results better? Doctors and laboratories that provide these tests have a pretty in-depth understanding of these tests as it is. So you make no sense to me.
If people are impatient, have problems with impulse control and can't wait a few weeks they should just come out and say it. What they should not do is make up reasons to justify their lack of self restraint.

But why does this board care SO MUCH about what people choose to do w/ their pregnancy and money? You all talk about sparing the feelings of other women, but damn - anyone dares to say they want to find out the sex of their baby or dare to ask a question that was asked a week ago- out come the pitchforks and stakes!

Oh, the irony.

Qfp

wisco29 · August 2015

eclaires said:
Oh and before I peace out I just want to say that even as someone who presents two of the risk categories for testing (AMA and downs in the family) I am STILL okay with low risk women taking the test (even if it's because they are mostly excited to find out sex). Bottom line: these people don't affect me. Nor did they affect my recent NIPT.

Qfp

VOR · August 2015

Yay!!!! I've been QFPd!!!

wisco29 · August 2015

I have cookie dough in the fridge I think I'm going to bake today.

wisco29 · August 2015

then eat them while they are still warm

AdventureMama · August 2015

VOR · August 2015

Well, for newbies who lurk for awhile, seeing how open and accepting you all are of new people who may (oh no!!) post an innocent but repetive question, I'm sure they'll want to come back and post about more serious issues.

wisco29 · August 2015

AdventureMama said:

I'm. Not sharing my cookies with them don't worry!!!!

AdventureMama · August 2015

Anyone hungry?

dragonfly321 · August 2015

PUT THE COOKIE DOWN
-in my best Arnold voice

brushesnbrunch · August 2015

eclaires said:

There is no evidence of backlog at any significant level with these tests. It's all theoretical. Just like in theory ultrasounds can be backloged.

The evidence is very subjected, I'll give you that...it depends entirely what insurance you have, the test administered and the area you live in. Where I am, my insurance only covers one test, and that test is only sent to 1 lab for processing (university of Washington), and actually takes over a month to complete because I had to go in between 12-13 weeks for a scan and blood draw, then come in again between 16-18 weeks for another blood draw. I don't get any of my results until my second sample has been tested. Oh, and this one test I was given does not give you results on your fetus' sex..so if I hadn't had some concerns on genetics and just wanted to find out if I'm having a boy or girl, I'd have been out of luck. There is nothing wrong with finding out the sex early if you want. That is why many suggested op go to a boutique ultrasound diagnostics location to do it. There are probably several in her area and will be a lot cheaper than getting an unnecessary chromosomal test. Also, I highly doubt those tests will be "standard" coverage by insurance because I think they recognize what a cash cow it is..

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