I actually have the Mommy's Genius onesie and bib (I bought two layette sets of it) for my son because they had glasses print and my husband wears glasses (and so do I). My baby shower invite was a picture of our glasses and a wee pair of baby glasses, so I thought it was cute. I didn't see the girl's version, but I don't see what you couldn't put a little girl in it? I mean, yes it's "gendered" but so what?
It actually really rubs me the wrong way that baby girl's sections are JAM PACKED full of clothes... and the boy's section is like two racks. And there is almost no gender neutral stuff. It just annoys me (because I love fashion and so does my husband and I look forward to having a fashionable little boy). It seems to set the idea from the beginning that girls have all these options and need to spend tons and tons of time on clothes (whether they like it or not) and boys have only a few options (and heaven forbid they want to express themselves with style!)
Well I don't know what is gender specific about "mommy's genius" other than what side of the store they hung it on, but as I am shopping for a boy, I have to agree that the whole "cars and stripes" motif is just not my thing. I have a fashion degree, and while I get to choose, he is NOT wearing cars and stripes, or monsters and robots!
I bought a few pricier onesies from kickee pants and kyte baby, who offer relatively gender neutral prints in super soft bamboo fabrics. I also have mostly purchased animal prints (squirrels, raccoons, foxes, bunnies, owls) from places like Carters. My sisters passed down their children's clothes and as 1 sister had 4 girls, that particular box was filled mostly with ducks and Winnie the Pooh.
We went into Carters to exchange some cars and stripes that were purchased for us for the more neutral woodland creatures and a little girl ran up to her mom with a yellow t-shirt and a lightning bolt that said "I'm the fastest!" and at first her mom was just like "those are boy clothes!" which annoyed me quite a bit. Her mom did acknowledge that the shirt was perfect after she actually looked at it, but parents are just as bad as stores sometimes!
IF you like to sew, onesies are not difficult to make (or you can always customize some plain ones with fabric paint/fabric markers/embroidery), but it's nice to just find what you want already made.
I will share that I really wanted a girl, partly because their stuff is so "cute" and the selection so large, and anytime I've pined over something for our little boy that might be just a little too "girly" my husband has chimed in every time with a "who says?" "who says it's girly?" "who says boys can't like ____(brocade, or purple, or whatever i'm looking at)" so really, the gender roles are all in your head. If YOU like it, then get it, gender be damned. (And honestly, they have no interest in how they're dressed at that age anyway, their eyes barely work)
So much yes! Clothes are ridiculous when it comes to gender roles in society. I buy whatever I think is cute, "boys" or "girls" and if someone has a problem with that my go to response will be "oh I'm sorry I didn't dress my baby so you could discern it's genitalia" who the hell actually cares!?!? It makes no difference. My girl is going to have monsters and dinosaurs. She's going to have onesies that are black and say "genius" and she's going to have cute dresses as well. You can't put constructs on your child that define them according to societal norms!
I wondered about why infant clothing is so gendered until I realized that for a year or so (or longer I guess, depending on haircuts), it's hard to tell by looking that your kid is a boy or girl. Unless they're wearing gendered clothing, girl babies and boy babies all kinda look alike.
For a while I was like "well that's why that is" but then I was like "why is it important to broadcast what sex your baby is?" Why on earth do we need that? So strangers can say "what a pretty girl" or "what a strong boy"? Great now we're verbally reinforcing the messages on the shirts. I'm currently not in the mood to make it easier for people to know what my kid's junk looks like, so even though I'm having a girl, I'm buying whatever I think is cool. I just got this from baby gap (the boys section):
We were at the mall once with my first, she was about 3 months old. She was wearing a black Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon onesie, with jeans. The jeans DID have a heart on the butt. But someone said "What a cute little boy". So there you go....
My husband is dying to get our daughter onesies for some of his favorite bands. And knowing him, probably a matching Eraserhead T-shirt so they can be Docs, jeans, and David Lynch fan twins (because that won't piss people off). I'm waiting to be amused by people automatically assuming boy and him reacting. Honestly I'm really looking forward to him being a father of a girl, but not just for the 6'2" guy holding a teeny baby factor, more for my own personal amusement at his reaction to seeing how women are treated from infancy. It won't fly with him, but I don't think he quite realizes just how bad it is yet.
omg david lynch! I am buying all the twin peaks baby stuff I can find. also: yes to matching dad/daughter outfits and yes to people reacting to that.
@Knottie16832459 that's awful and i often see a lot of aggression coming from men towards conforming to gender roles and wonder if there's something like that going on. Sorry you experienced that!
I don't mind robots, but cars and boats and baby blue and brown just kill me.
I actually have the Mommy's Genius onesie and bib (I bought two layette sets of it) for my son because they had glasses print and my husband wears glasses (and so do I). My baby shower invite was a picture of our glasses and a wee pair of baby glasses, so I thought it was cute. I didn't see the girl's version, but I don't see what you couldn't put a little girl in it? I mean, yes it's "gendered" but so what?
It actually really rubs me the wrong way that baby girl's sections are JAM PACKED full of clothes... and the boy's section is like two racks. And there is almost no gender neutral stuff. It just annoys me (because I love fashion and so does my husband and I look forward to having a fashionable little boy). It seems to set the idea from the beginning that girls have all these options and need to spend tons and tons of time on clothes (whether they like it or not) and boys have only a few options (and heaven forbid they want to express themselves with style!)
I was at Carter's recently and saw these outfits. There's absolutely no reason they're only for boys. There's nothing in there that says "boy," just the color navy, which, last time I checked, was perfectly OK for girls to wear!
In fact, I'm not 100% convinced I won't buy something from this collection for my daughter, since I wear glasses some of the time, and her big brother is currently fascinated by glasses.
I think it's kind of funny how ideals of gendered clothing have evolved over time. Brocade, ruffles, the color pink . . . At one time these were considered masculine, or at least acceptable for men to wear. Certain touches (or ruffles) were a sign of status - the more extra fabric your clothing had, the richer you were, obviously, as you could afford to "waste" fabric. Purple was the color of royalty, not anything exclusively feminine. Blue was once a "girl" color, too. And little boys used to wear frocks similar to those of little girls, maybe to make diaper changes easier?
Being team green it has been interesting how everything I buy is in the boy section. The girl section exploded with pink and purples and flowers and butterflies. I will say though that I love some of the funny onesies with the punchline. I sent this one to DH recently and we thought it was hysterical (of course I wouldn't buy this because who puts a sperm on their child?) But I think dressing my kid like a little hipster is adorable (if I have a boy I can't wait for plaid and cute sneakers!)
I just want my kids to be kids and not spend my time obsessing on how every decision I make affects their lives down the road. That will make me miss all the amazing moments we get to teach them. And I also think society can teach people whatever they want but it's the parents that matter the most, my dad let me play sports and always told me I could do anything I put my mind to and that is the message that I carry with me! Even though my mom wanted me to be a lady and wear dresses, that's just not the message that I took hold of.
I think we all need to believe more in the impact we are going to have on these tiny lives and realize that we will do the best we can in the moment.
I think it's kind of funny how ideals of gendered clothing have evolved over time. Brocade, ruffles, the color pink . . . At one time these were considered masculine, or at least acceptable for men to wear. Certain touches (or ruffles) were a sign of status - the more extra fabric your clothing had, the richer you were, obviously, as you could afford to "waste" fabric. Purple was the color of royalty, not anything exclusively feminine. Blue was once a "girl" color, too. And little boys used to wear frocks similar to those of little girls, maybe to make diaper changes easier?
There seemed to be a huge gender role and identity shift in the US after WWII especially. There are a lot of thoughts on why, many having to do with economics, but I think the issue is rather complex personally. I also tend to feel that the more our society became sexually open and expressive, the more polarized the country got with morality and sexual identity. People were slowly becoming more able to identify outside of gender roles and the backlash was severe.
People always fear "the other," and I think that pigeon holing gender identity is just a way of trying to normalize society. It is easier to understand and label people without much thought if they don't fall into any grey or "other" category. At the end of the day, most people like things to be black and white, right and wrong. Understanding that there are greys requires an empathy and level of introspection on an individual basis that most of humanity just doesn't have patience for.
My 3 year old son loves Anna and Elsa, but all the "boy" clothes feature Olaf. It's so stupid, but it drives me crazy. Is it that big a deal to have a boy's t-shirt with a princess on it, really? DH surprised me by not being cool with me buying him an Elsa nightgown. I mean, it's jammies. Who cares? And if he wanted to wear it out to the grocery store, still, who cares?
His baby sister will be wearing his hand-me-downs, and DH is OK with that. It seems that in general, it's acceptable for girls to be into "boy things". But people have a much harder time accepting boys being into girl things. Boys who like pink, purple, and things that sparkle should be encouraged to be themselves just like "tomboys" are. Or maybe that's just my perception.
This. When thinking about having a daughter is was actually much EASIER to picture getting clothes and even doing non-steriotypical activities with her (wrestling, hunting, etc) that were "different" enough to be particularly cool for a girl to do but still socially acceptable. Now that we're having a son it just feels like our options, not just for clothes but for everything, are actually a lot more limited. Obviously they aren't actually more limited and we're really going to try to let him play with or wear or do typically "girly" things but it's a lot "stranger" socially for boys to have tea parties wearing pink princess dresses than it is for girls to play with trains wearing overalls. It shouldn't be and that's a shame. Nobody in my family would think anything of me buying a girl monster truck toys other than maybe her being a tomboy, but I'm sure I'd get some judgement for buying princess or baby doll stuff for the boy to give him that option to explore.
Frankly it all comes back to feminism being good for everyone, not just women. The idea that boyish things are good for everyone but girly things are only good enough for girls doesn't really help anybody.
I'm obsessed with the direction this thread has taken.
It's so nice that you ladies are so tolerant and sensitive to these issues. A lot of times you get people saying "Well my parents dressed me in princess outfits and I grew up 'heteronormative' by choice," totally missing the fundamental principle. We really need to deconstruct the way our society indoctrinates gender starting day one, then we will have true freedom. It isn't about preparing for the possibility of a child being transgender, it is taking away any brainwashing and letting the child grow into themselves naturally.
You're so spot on. All of the time. Heroic. I LOVE YOU, BRO.
My 3 year old son loves Anna and Elsa, but all the "boy" clothes feature Olaf. It's so stupid, but it drives me crazy. Is it that big a deal to have a boy's t-shirt with a princess on it, really? DH surprised me by not being cool with me buying him an Elsa nightgown. I mean, it's jammies. Who cares? And if he wanted to wear it out to the grocery store, still, who cares?
His baby sister will be wearing his hand-me-downs, and DH is OK with that. It seems that in general, it's acceptable for girls to be into "boy things". But people have a much harder time accepting boys being into girl things. Boys who like pink, purple, and things that sparkle should be encouraged to be themselves just like "tomboys" are. Or maybe that's just my perception.
This. When thinking about having a daughter is was actually much EASIER to picture getting clothes and even doing non-steriotypical activities with her (wrestling, hunting, etc) that were "different" enough to be particularly cool for a girl to do but still socially acceptable. Now that we're having a son it just feels like our options, not just for clothes but for everything, are actually a lot more limited. Obviously they aren't actually more limited and we're really going to try to let him play with or wear or do typically "girly" things but it's a lot "stranger" socially for boys to have tea parties wearing pink princess dresses than it is for girls to play with trains wearing overalls. It shouldn't be and that's a shame. Nobody in my family would think anything of me buying a girl monster truck toys other than maybe her being a tomboy, but I'm sure I'd get some judgement for buying princess or baby doll stuff for the boy to give him that option to explore.
Frankly it all comes back to feminism being good for everyone, not just women. The idea that boyish things are good for everyone but girly things are only good enough for girls doesn't really help anybody.
My son has recently started asking me to "change" his teddy bear when I change his diapers. I'm just waiting for the side-eyeing from my family when they find out I'm going to buy him some doll diapers for his bear, and maybe even a baby doll!
Although I'm thrilled to be having a girl, it really kills me how much girly stuff there is and how few gender neutral outfits are out there. Our nursery is gender neutral with pops of pink and teal and I love it because there's pink there, but we're not drowning in pink. I gladly accept any hand-me-downs that people give me, but sadly most of them are pink and super girly. Even when I went garage sale shopping it was all pink. I got really excited when I found navy and grey outfits.
When we registered I kept registering for greens and blues and but my DH even gravitated towards the pink. I know I'll get tons of pink at my showers too. It's fine. I just don't want her to grow up a tomboy and look at her baby pictures and be like, "Seriously Mom? Why all the pink?" She can be whoever she wants to be. And while I might put her in a tutu every now and then, dinasours are cute too.
@MamaOwl15 i will totally encourage that kind of pretend with my son. My nephew loved my dds dolls and playing like he was the dad. I can't imagine discouraging that and then expecting men to grow up to be good father's. I think it's why so many relationships struggle. Women are raised to be caregivers and so many men are raised to be taken care of and then the baby comes and they can't handle not being the center of everything. Not my boy!
I have pictures of me as a baby wearing striped shirts with osh kosh overalls and all blue onesies. I was bald until I was two so I got confused for a boy on many occasions. I asked my mom why I was wearing "boy clothes" and she told me back then people didn't know the sex of the baby until birth so she received both boy and girl clothing as gifts and didn't want to let good clothes go to waste so she dressed me in both. I thought that was pretty cool of my parents that they didn't care but I now wonder if they'd do the same if it was my brother they received pink dresses for, probably not. I agree that it's much more socially acceptable for girls to be into things deemed "boy stuff" but not the other way around for boys into "girl stuff. Boys are expected to be tough and strong and are looked down at for being soft or sensitive and quite frankly it's crap! My boys may wear the blues but when my son wanted a toy kitchen you better believe I bought one for him! My boys have worn my heels, pushed baby strollers, sleep with stuffed animals and dolls and I have the cutest picture of them wearing towels on their heads just like mommy. They are both tender and sensitive and at the same time love to wrestle, play sports and get dirty. We need to teach our children, especially our sons they can be both strong and sensitive, tough and nurturing it doesn't have to be one-sided. I'm having my first daughter and being that I'm not especially girly myself the pinks and frilly are not my style. However if my daughter grows up and wants princesses then she will be a princess and I'm more than ok with that. If she wants to play soccer like I did as a kid she can do that too. It is frustrating how society puts gender into a box but it's up to us to change the way of thinking starting with our kids.
Good news everybody, today on Zulily there is an event called born with confidence! There are some really great clothes that are uplifting for both girls and boys. For example they have a pink onesie that says "I'm not bossy I have leadership skills" or a pretty light blue one that says "Love one another." They also have awesome ones that would be great for boys or both! Check it out!
I am a HUGE fan of anything pink, leopard, glitter, and gaudy. And my baby girl already has TONS of frilly tutus and clothes that either I or her God Mother have bought for her (little UGGs, Cowboy Boots and Sunglasses included). I'm not worried at all. But then again I was raised VERY VERY girly in big victorian style dresses, pantyhose, parasols, and heels and I grew up into an animal loving, mudding, shooting, horseback riding, back yard mechanic. I was VERY MUCH a Daddy's Girl, constantly referred to as a "Princess" and growing up with two brothers I learned to be tough, go with the flow and my parents never let my gender dictate what I could or couldn't do. Heck, as a kid I'd come home from ballet class and go straight to collecting garden snakes from our front yard. So yes, my little girl will be dressed in all the "tacky" or "gaudy" clothes with all the sparkles and princess themes. I know for a fact her dad is going to treat her just like a boy anyway. And on those days that he dresses her I've taken it upon myself to make her onesies for anything I couldn't find in the stores.
Me too I have tons of pink and frilly for our baby girl. Most bought by my husband, he's excited with the daddies princess .... Lol and a added bonus I make tutus and bows for our baby girl so a big money saver lol. My son loves ninja turtles we bought baby girl one and my husband flipped out cause they were boy onesies and said she had to have a skirt to wear with them... Lol he's worse than me
@MamaOwl15 i will totally encourage that kind of pretend with my son. My nephew loved my dds dolls and playing like he was the dad. I can't imagine discouraging that and then expecting men to grow up to be good father's. I think it's why so many relationships struggle. Women are raised to be caregivers and so many men are raised to be taken care of and then the baby comes and they can't handle not being the center of everything. Not my boy!
Exactly! I figure right now it's good "big brother" practice. My son also likes to "help" with cooking and cleaning. I'm all for it. When he's in his early 20s, hopefully he'll know some good recipes to cook and ain't rely on ramen! And he won't be that guy whose wife has to do his laundry and ironing because he doesn't know how. He's already learning . . .
@jenn2132, the only thing that keeps me from buying a play kitchen for my son is that we have absolutely no space. Maybe in a couple years, we'll have a place where I could put a toy kitchen for both kids to play with.
I am a HUGE fan of anything pink, leopard, glitter, and gaudy. And my baby girl already has TONS of frilly tutus and clothes that either I or her God Mother have bought for her (little UGGs, Cowboy Boots and Sunglasses included). I'm not worried at all. But then again I was raised VERY VERY girly in big victorian style dresses, pantyhose, parasols, and heels and I grew up into an animal loving, mudding, shooting, horseback riding, back yard mechanic. I was VERY MUCH a Daddy's Girl, constantly referred to as a "Princess" and growing up with two brothers I learned to be tough, go with the flow and my parents never let my gender dictate what I could or couldn't do. Heck, as a kid I'd come home from ballet class and go straight to collecting garden snakes from our front yard. So yes, my little girl will be dressed in all the "tacky" or "gaudy" clothes with all the sparkles and princess themes. I know for a fact her dad is going to treat her just like a boy anyway. And on those days that he dresses her I've taken it upon myself to make her onesies for anything I couldn't find in the stores.
Me too I have tons of pink and frilly for our baby girl. Most bought by my husband, he's excited with the daddies princess .... Lol and a added bonus I make tutus and bows for our baby girl so a big money saver lol. My son loves ninja turtles we bought baby girl one and my husband flipped out cause they were boy onesies and said she had to have a skirt to wear with them... Lol he's worse than me
I saved a few of DS's baby clothes for DD with the intent of pairing them with a skirt or ruffles. I like to have some color variety but I'm a sucker for feminine details. Bring on the blue and brown and all that and I'll make a bow to go with it! Lol
I wondered about why infant clothing is so gendered until I realized that for a year or so (or longer I guess, depending on haircuts), it's hard to tell by looking that your kid is a boy or girl. Unless they're wearing gendered clothing, girl babies and boy babies all kinda look alike.
For a while I was like "well that's why that is" but then I was like "why is it important to broadcast what sex your baby is?" Why on earth do we need that? So strangers can say "what a pretty girl" or "what a strong boy"? Great now we're verbally reinforcing the messages on the shirts. I'm currently not in the mood to make it easier for people to know what my kid's junk looks like, so even though I'm having a girl, I'm buying whatever I think is cool. I just got this from baby gap (the boys section):
@mllelibbington I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND ANYMORE!!!! I went to gap.com to get that cute onsie and now I'm $400 poorer... and that's with the cardholder discount lol!
@Mommajones0315 my husband went absolutely nuts when he saw a little Deadpool onesie online. He usually hates bows but he relented to let me pair one with that particular onesie. But now I'm thinking a black and red tutu would look fabulous!
Lurker from another board but having had a boy and girl the selection of clothing drives me mad. I have had better luck with boy shirts at this age 3T-5T) and have found nice plain shirts. With my daughter we were stuck with character themed shirts or some outfits that just came with a generalized pattern. Of course they were girly colors.
What I found recently was that Hanes and Fruit of the Loom sell packs of t-shirts, tanks, and camisoles. No writing on them and they do vary in color including blue, yellow, and green. They pair very well with pretty much every pair of shorts DD has. It doesn't solve the problem but makes me feel a bit better.
Also, not clothing related, but DS ate his dinner out of a hot pink bowl. I'm pretty sure he wasn't damaged by the experience ; )
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I wondered about why infant clothing is so gendered until I realized that for a year or so (or longer I guess, depending on haircuts), it's hard to tell by looking that your kid is a boy or girl. Unless they're wearing gendered clothing, girl babies and boy babies all kinda look alike.
For a while I was like "well that's why that is" but then I was like "why is it important to broadcast what sex your baby is?" Why on earth do we need that? So strangers can say "what a pretty girl" or "what a strong boy"? Great now we're verbally reinforcing the messages on the shirts. I'm currently not in the mood to make it easier for people to know what my kid's junk looks like, so even though I'm having a girl, I'm buying whatever I think is cool. I just got this from baby gap (the boys section):
@mllelibbington I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND ANYMORE!!!! I went to gap.com to get that cute onsie and now I'm $400 poorer... and that's with the cardholder discount lol!
I am sorry to lose you as a friend but our kids have matching outfits now so we have to hang out at least once
My husband and I are having a boy, and neither of us are into trucks/sports. We've found some great boy's clothes on Etsy that are more classic.
I 100% agree with everyone on being offended by some of the verbiage on girl's clothing because it is demeaning/sexualizing. I am fortunate that I haven't encountered much of this with boy's clothes, but I have seen some. Needless to say, my son will not have any clothes that talk about him being a "stud" or "ladies man".
If you're not opposed to gently used baby clothes, I highly recommend Once Upon a Child or similar consignment stores. I've seen some really nice Ralph Lauren pieces at reasonable prices (sorry but I can't justify spending $40 for a onesie). RL has more classic styles, no sayings, no graphics except the signature polo horse. They have feminist details like ruffles on the girl stuff, but they come in colors like navy!
I've also seen Baby Gap, Gymboree, The Children's Place there at lower prices, so I've been able to get DS some nice plaid button-downs at OUaC for not very much.
Plus they often have $1 onesies, for boys or girls, so you can find solid colors and basics for cheap.
Re: Frustration with Gendered Baby Clothes
Well I don't know what is gender specific about "mommy's genius" other than what side of the store they hung it on, but as I am shopping for a boy, I have to agree that the whole "cars and stripes" motif is just not my thing. I have a fashion degree, and while I get to choose, he is NOT wearing cars and stripes, or monsters and robots!
I bought a few pricier onesies from kickee pants and kyte baby, who offer relatively gender neutral prints in super soft bamboo fabrics. I also have mostly purchased animal prints (squirrels, raccoons, foxes, bunnies, owls) from places like Carters. My sisters passed down their children's clothes and as 1 sister had 4 girls, that particular box was filled mostly with ducks and Winnie the Pooh.
We went into Carters to exchange some cars and stripes that were purchased for us for the more neutral woodland creatures and a little girl ran up to her mom with a yellow t-shirt and a lightning bolt that said "I'm the fastest!" and at first her mom was just like "those are boy clothes!" which annoyed me quite a bit. Her mom did acknowledge that the shirt was perfect after she actually looked at it, but parents are just as bad as stores sometimes!
IF you like to sew, onesies are not difficult to make (or you can always customize some plain ones with fabric paint/fabric markers/embroidery), but it's nice to just find what you want already made.
I will share that I really wanted a girl, partly because their stuff is so "cute" and the selection so large, and anytime I've pined over something for our little boy that might be just a little too "girly" my husband has chimed in every time with a "who says?" "who says it's girly?" "who says boys can't like ____(brocade, or purple, or whatever i'm looking at)" so really, the gender roles are all in your head. If YOU like it, then get it, gender be damned. (And honestly, they have no interest in how they're dressed at that age anyway, their eyes barely work)
It's like this group just keeps getting cooler...
I don't mind robots, but cars and boats and baby blue and brown just kill me.
In fact, I'm not 100% convinced I won't buy something from this collection for my daughter, since I wear glasses some of the time, and her big brother is currently fascinated by glasses.
I just want my kids to be kids and not spend my time obsessing on how every decision I make affects their lives down the road. That will make me miss all the amazing moments we get to teach them. And I also think society can teach people whatever they want but it's the parents that matter the most, my dad let me play sports and always told me I could do anything I put my mind to and that is the message that I carry with me! Even though my mom wanted me to be a lady and wear dresses, that's just not the message that I took hold of.
I think we all need to believe more in the impact we are going to have on these tiny lives and realize that we will do the best we can in the moment.
People always fear "the other," and I think that pigeon holing gender identity is just a way of trying to normalize society. It is easier to understand and label people without much thought if they don't fall into any grey or "other" category. At the end of the day, most people like things to be black and white, right and wrong. Understanding that there are greys requires an empathy and level of introspection on an individual basis that most of humanity just doesn't have patience for.
My son has recently started asking me to "change" his teddy bear when I change his diapers. I'm just waiting for the side-eyeing from my family when they find out I'm going to buy him some doll diapers for his bear, and maybe even a baby doll!
@jenn2132, the only thing that keeps me from buying a play kitchen for my son is that we have absolutely no space. Maybe in a couple years, we'll have a place where I could put a toy kitchen for both kids to play with.
@mllelibbington I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND ANYMORE!!!! I went to gap.com to get that cute onsie and now I'm $400 poorer... and that's with the cardholder discount lol!
What I found recently was that Hanes and Fruit of the Loom sell packs of t-shirts, tanks, and camisoles. No writing on them and they do vary in color including blue, yellow, and green. They pair very well with pretty much every pair of shorts DD has. It doesn't solve the problem but makes me feel a bit better.
Also, not clothing related, but DS ate his dinner out of a hot pink bowl. I'm pretty sure he wasn't damaged by the experience ; )
I 100% agree with everyone on being offended by some of the verbiage on girl's clothing because it is demeaning/sexualizing. I am fortunate that I haven't encountered much of this with boy's clothes, but I have seen some. Needless to say, my son will not have any clothes that talk about him being a "stud" or "ladies man".
I've also seen Baby Gap, Gymboree, The Children's Place there at lower prices, so I've been able to get DS some nice plaid button-downs at OUaC for not very much.
Plus they often have $1 onesies, for boys or girls, so you can find solid colors and basics for cheap.