Okay, how do we feel about Elizabeth for a boy? Y/n?
Totes. Elizabeth nn Eli?!
Married 10/4/2014 (10-4, good buddy!) Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17 Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
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I like it and I also like Blake for a girls name. There are a few "boys" names I like for girls. Many men also tend to like masculine names on women (not sure why) I think it's a little edgy & can be sexy! **Just my opinion**
I like it and I also like Blake for a girls name. There are a few "boys" names I like for girls. Many men also tend to like masculine names on women (not sure why) I think it's a little edgy & can be sexy! **Just my opinion**
I like it and I also like Blake for a girls name. There are a few "boys" names I like for girls. Many men also tend to like masculine names on women (not sure why) I think it's a little edgy & can be sexy! **Just my opinion**
Not that I particularly believe in psychoanalysis, but that is some Freudian shit right there. Sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar.
What i find bizarre about thebump is how if you DARE speak of your unborn's GENDER, you are crucified for DARING to assume you know your kid's GENDER since GENDER is something that only the owner of the body can know. (It's SEX ladies. SEX. oh em geeeeee...) But then the second somebody suggests names that cross genders and sex, suddenly, gender is such a solid construct that even names cannot cross its iron boundaries.
Which seems really disingenuous.. Make up your minds, yo.
Personally, here's the thing. I get that you're having a girl/boy. I also get that this girl/boy could possibly grow up and realize that inside, they're actually a boy/girl. This is all just fine.
So why the hubbub over names when clearly it's a rich and complex tapestry?
What i find bizarre about thebump is how if you DARE speak of your unborn's GENDER, you are crucified for DARING to assume you know your kid's GENDER since GENDER is something that only the owner of the body can know. (It's SEX ladies. SEX. oh em geeeeee...) But then the second somebody suggests names that cross genders and sex, suddenly, gender is such a solid construct that even names cannot cross its iron boundaries.
Which seems really disingenuous.. Make up your minds, yo.
Personally, here's the thing. I get that you're having a girl/boy. I also get that this girl/boy could possibly grow up and realize that inside, they're actually a boy/girl. This is all just fine.
So why the hubbub over names when clearly it's a rich and complex tapestry?
Well, the main issue with names is that the majority of them ARE gendered. Look at the Romance languages, almost every word is gendered.
What We (General we of the board) are tired of is people taking random ass masculine names and going " OMG This would be so cute on a girl! I love STRONG names for girls!" History has shown us that names that cross over, (not unsex names mind you, masculine names with a high number of usage for girls) get dropped off for usage for boys because of it's association with girls. That's not gender inclusion, that's yet another sign of gender segregation. We ( General we of the population) name our girls Elliot and James because we want them to be strong and unique. We stop naming our boys Shannon, Madison and Ashley because people think they are girls names. It re enforces the idea that masculine qualities are good and strong, while feminine qualities are bad and weak. We are telling our daughters that it isn't good enough to be Susan or Annabelle, she has to be James or Ryan.
What i find bizarre about thebump is how if you DARE speak of your unborn's GENDER, you are crucified for DARING to assume you know your kid's GENDER since GENDER is something that only the owner of the body can know. (It's SEX ladies. SEX. oh em geeeeee...) But then the second somebody suggests names that cross genders and sex, suddenly, gender is such a solid construct that even names cannot cross its iron boundaries.
Which seems really disingenuous.. Make up your minds, yo.
Personally, here's the thing. I get that you're having a girl/boy. I also get that this girl/boy could possibly grow up and realize that inside, they're actually a boy/girl. This is all just fine.
So why the hubbub over names when clearly it's a rich and complex tapestry?
Well, the main issue with names is that the majority of them ARE gendered. Look at the Romance languages, almost every word is gendered.
What We (General we of the board) are tired of is people taking random ass masculine names and going " OMG This would be so cute on a girl! I love STRONG names for girls!" History has shown us that names that cross over, (not unsex names mind you, masculine names with a high number of usage for girls) get dropped off for usage for boys because of it's association with girls. That's not gender inclusion, that's yet another sign of gender segregation. We ( General we of the population) name our girls Elliot and James because we want them to be strong and unique. We stop naming our boys Shannon, Madison and Ashley because people think they are girls names. It re enforces the idea that masculine qualities are good and strong, while feminine qualities are bad and weak. We are telling our daughters that it isn't good enough to be Susan or Annabelle, she has to be James or Ryan.
And that is messed up.
Yup I agree totally with that. Except that there are men with traditionally feminine names too. My husband INSISTED for at least a month that our son would be "Lauren" - and while i'm not against the idea, I am not a fan of the name Lauren per se. We also considered Lucy for a boy. I like Scarlet for a boy (nn Red)
What i find bizarre about thebump is how if you DARE speak of your unborn's GENDER, you are crucified for DARING to assume you know your kid's GENDER since GENDER is something that only the owner of the body can know. (It's SEX ladies. SEX. oh em geeeeee...) But then the second somebody suggests names that cross genders and sex, suddenly, gender is such a solid construct that even names cannot cross its iron boundaries.
Which seems really disingenuous.. Make up your minds, yo.
Personally, here's the thing. I get that you're having a girl/boy. I also get that this girl/boy could possibly grow up and realize that inside, they're actually a boy/girl. This is all just fine.
So why the hubbub over names when clearly it's a rich and complex tapestry?
Well, the main issue with names is that the majority of them ARE gendered. Look at the Romance languages, almost every word is gendered.
What We (General we of the board) are tired of is people taking random ass masculine names and going " OMG This would be so cute on a girl! I love STRONG names for girls!" History has shown us that names that cross over, (not unsex names mind you, masculine names with a high number of usage for girls) get dropped off for usage for boys because of it's association with girls. That's not gender inclusion, that's yet another sign of gender segregation. We ( General we of the population) name our girls Elliot and James because we want them to be strong and unique. We stop naming our boys Shannon, Madison and Ashley because people think they are girls names. It re enforces the idea that masculine qualities are good and strong, while feminine qualities are bad and weak. We are telling our daughters that it isn't good enough to be Susan or Annabelle, she has to be James or Ryan.
And that is messed up.
Yup I agree totally with that. Except that there are men with traditionally feminine names too. My husband INSISTED for at least a month that our son would be "Lauren" - and while i'm not against the idea, I am not a fan of the name Lauren per se. We also considered Lucy for a boy. I like Scarlet for a boy (nn Red)
..... Lauren is a traditionally masculine name.
Good on you for considering Lucy and Scarlett, but that makes you the third person on this board since I've started posting to actually consider an actual feminine name for a boy, that wasn't a masculine name to begin with.
Meanwhile, this is probably the 100th Elliot. I lost any track of Charlie months ago.
What i find bizarre about thebump is how if you DARE speak of your unborn's GENDER, you are crucified for DARING to assume you know your kid's GENDER since GENDER is something that only the owner of the body can know. (It's SEX ladies. SEX. oh em geeeeee...) But then the second somebody suggests names that cross genders and sex, suddenly, gender is such a solid construct that even names cannot cross its iron boundaries.
Which seems really disingenuous.. Make up your minds, yo.
Personally, here's the thing. I get that you're having a girl/boy. I also get that this girl/boy could possibly grow up and realize that inside, they're actually a boy/girl. This is all just fine.
So why the hubbub over names when clearly it's a rich and complex tapestry?
Well, the main issue with names is that the majority of them ARE gendered. Look at the Romance languages, almost every word is gendered.
What We (General we of the board) are tired of is people taking random ass masculine names and going " OMG This would be so cute on a girl! I love STRONG names for girls!" History has shown us that names that cross over, (not unsex names mind you, masculine names with a high number of usage for girls) get dropped off for usage for boys because of it's association with girls. That's not gender inclusion, that's yet another sign of gender segregation. We ( General we of the population) name our girls Elliot and James because we want them to be strong and unique. We stop naming our boys Shannon, Madison and Ashley because people think they are girls names. It re enforces the idea that masculine qualities are good and strong, while feminine qualities are bad and weak. We are telling our daughters that it isn't good enough to be Susan or Annabelle, she has to be James or Ryan.
And that is messed up.
Thank you (as usual) for articulating what caffeine has not yet given me the will to this morning. Bow down to the queen of baby name education ladies.
Re: Elliot for a girl???
Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17
Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
Why is this happening?
I guess Elliot could too.
..... Lauren is a traditionally masculine name.
Good on you for considering Lucy and Scarlett, but that makes you the third person on this board since I've started posting to actually consider an actual feminine name for a boy, that wasn't a masculine name to begin with.
Meanwhile, this is probably the 100th Elliot. I lost any track of Charlie months ago.
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