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December 2015 Moms
Jmdavin
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California Moms...SB277
Jmdavin
member
Hi all, mainly a lurker here on the board but I do post occasionally if I have time! To all the California moms... what's your take on SB277?
I'm all for vaccinating, but definitely feeling a bit uncomfortable with the government mandating the what and when with such an open ended ability to add more without the public's say. Before the law was proposed, I was leaning towards a more delayed vaccination schedule and considering not doing a couple of them (like the vac for chicken pox, when I was a kid we just had chicken pox parties in kindergarten to get it out of the way) and also delaying hep B as it is mostly transmitted sexually so felt a newborn didn't need to get that right away.
Just wanted to get some others thoughts on what they think about it all since this will very likely be affecting our kids as they will be daycare/pre-school ready in just a few years or sooner. Hoping to not cause any drama as I do realize this can be a sensitive subject, just really looking for how other CA moms feel about this.. Thank you!
I'm all for vaccinating, but definitely feeling a bit uncomfortable with the government mandating the what and when with such an open ended ability to add more without the public's say. Before the law was proposed, I was leaning towards a more delayed vaccination schedule and considering not doing a couple of them (like the vac for chicken pox, when I was a kid we just had chicken pox parties in kindergarten to get it out of the way) and also delaying hep B as it is mostly transmitted sexually so felt a newborn didn't need to get that right away.
Just wanted to get some others thoughts on what they think about it all since this will very likely be affecting our kids as they will be daycare/pre-school ready in just a few years or sooner. Hoping to not cause any drama as I do realize this can be a sensitive subject, just really looking for how other CA moms feel about this.. Thank you!
Re: California Moms...SB277
I could be wrong though because it was just a random article I read on Facebook so I'd be interested to hear about this as well from people who know.
So again with my hesitation against not vaccinating for hep B till later on (I didn't get this vaccination until I was an adult) I wouls have to homeschool unless all vaccinations were up to date. I plan on vaccinating on a delayed schedule, but I know people whose kids had severe reactions to some of the Vaccs (one had lasting seizures until she stopped with the sequential doses) and under the new law is not able to be exempted bc of the strictness of what qualifies for exemption.
Here is a short video that explains
Anyways, kind of scary. I just feel so conflicted bc while I totally believe in the good of vaccinations I do believe there are exceptions for every rule and not being able to make a decision on behalf of your children (without some pretty big consequences, not everyone can homeschool or wants to!) just seems wrong to me.
*edited for typos
Also the hep B vaccine is given at birth on the off chance that a doc or nurse has hep b and comes into contact with a part of baby that would allow transmission. While it is mainly transferred through sexual contact, there are other modes of contracting hep b and the shot at birth helps to fight against those.
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Info on SB277 Legislation:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB277
Info in vaccination and their (non) link to autism since I figured it would come up:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism/
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science/policy-statements/information-about-vaccines-and-autism
Varicella zoster ("Chicken Pox") parties risks and ?benefits:
https://immunizationinfo.com/articles/chickenpox-parties/
https://www.cdc.gov/Features/PreventChickenpox/
Personally, I'm pro-vaccine because I'm not willing to risk the small chance of morbidity or mortality associated with my LO contracting a completely preventable disease just because I made the decision for them not to get a vaccine. In addition, I also have a B.S. in molecular, cellular, and developmental biology, minor in organic chemistry and biotechnology certification. I've read a ridiculous amount of peer reviewed articles regarding issues surrounding vaccines, and for my family, they are the right choice.
Do I believe parents should be forced to vaccinate their children? Well, maybe that's up for debate. However I DO feel it's socially responsible to vaccinate and I don't feel this legislation is out of fear, but out of protecting our communities from completely preventable disease.
I am for vaccines BUT I had a severe reaction to the chicken pox vaccine that will affect me for the rest of my life. That is one I have planned to opt out of for my children since chicken pox is not life threatening and considering my issue. But now I have no choice, unless I want to homeschool my children. And I'm not even sure if it would "meet the criteria" for exempting that one since drs I have spoken with essentially tell me that my issues are not from the vaccine and it was all just a strange coincidence of reactions immediately after the vaccine -_- It seems that Drs say that about vaccines often.
Same with hepatitis B, it is not fair to force that on infants when the mother tests negative. I often feel like they just keep adding and adding vaccines to the required list to cover everyone who could possibly have some of these diseases when those that do not have the issue are now having our choices taken from us. I'm sorry, but I do not feel comfortable giving my newborn baby a vaccine for an STD. I don't care how safe the cdc says it is, it's MY newborn baby, *i* should make that decision.
These vaccines I have issues with aren't even major, yet they're going to determine that my kids can't go to school because of chicken pox and a sexually transmitted disease?
I'm in LA anyways where public schools are absolutely horrible (thanks again, ca government for caring about our kids!) so have been thinking about homeschooling when the time comes anyways. This is big for me too because I was homeschooled until highschool and vowed that I would never ever homeschool my children. Never say never I guess.
I'm not from California and I will vaccinate my child. I'm not trying to tell others what to do but I think people should be fully informed about all risks.
I am not against the hepatitis B vaccine in general (although I never had it as a child and do not have hepatitis B now, I guess I got lucky running around the playground). I just do not think it is necessary for MY newborn baby. If a mother has HepB I think her baby should absolutely have the vaccine, maybe even if a close family member has it. But that is not the case with my family so why should it be forced on my baby?
The last 10 years my lens has been that of an educator, in an urban middle school with 1200 students. With out going into disgusting details... I've seen some gag worthy gross stuff. Related to vaccine schedule, whether or not I support it being mandated, I do believe it was being very abused. I think Cali has recognized its "herd immunity" is not intact and measures are being taken to try to secure that.
As much as I like to think I can control or limit exposure of my lo to the population, it realistically isn't possible. There is a social responsibility here that many do not like, but nonetheless is necessary to protect entire communities from preventable diseases.