Sorry for the bad attempt on a punny title, as with everything this week Im blaming sleep deprivation!
Someone on the new mothers thread suggested a breastfeeding support thread as so many of us are struggling - thought it'd be a great place to tell our stories, swap tips and offer encouragement.
The only ground rule I'd suggest here is no badmouthing of formula. At the end of the day the most important thing is that our babies are fed - whether it's breast milk, formula or a combination, all you mamas are doing great!
Thanks for starting this. Breastfeeding is freaking hard. 15 days in and we have the hang of it...but that first week was awful. Hang in there mamas, if you're committed to breastfeeding keep up the good work!
TTC: 1/2014
BFP: 9/24
EDD: 6/8/2015
Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
Second time Mom here and it's easier the second time! It's still hard though...says my slightly scabbed nipples. Ouch! I find if I squeeze a bit of milk out after and let it completely dry before putting my boob back in my shirt it helps. I didn't do this a couple times today hence the scabbing now...
I just bought the Earth Mama Angel Baby Nipple Butter and I can already feel a difference! The lanolin and Medela cream did nothing for me. And I have not had to use the nipple shield all day so kudos to me and LO!
The all purpose nipple ointment literally saved me from stopping breastfeeding. I asked for it on discharge day and used it on my torn up nipples religiously after each feeding for a week. You can use it up to 3 weeks but once my nipples started to heal I switched to lanolin and coconut oil because the less amount of time I was using a steroid and anti fungal cream the better (in my mind).
TTC: 1/2014
BFP: 9/24
EDD: 6/8/2015
Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
So I have a confession. I absolutely HATE breastfeeding. It's been a huge struggle for me the last few weeks mentally, physically, emotionally etc etc. we have a peds appointment tomorrow and I'm going to ask about switching over to formula. I feel horrible to think of the feeling of relief I'll have. But it just isn't working. I know there will be tons of women telling me it gets easier by week 3 or after the first month or by month 3 but I just don't want to feel down anymore. I want to be a happy mom that isn't dreading every feeding with my child. I'll probably get a lot of crap about this but I'm just done with it. I'm in nursing school and my last semester starts in the fall. I can't even imagine bringing my pump to school or my clinicals. It makes me want to vomit from anxiety just thjnkng of it. I'm hoping I'll at least get a little support from some of you ladies but totally get it if I do get slack about it
I have to say the support and knowledge of breastfeeding around here sucks! I'm greatful this was my second child because even though dd1 didn't latch and was unsuccessful I learned so much from my experience. I have flat nipples and when I was in the hospital I asked for a nipple shield only to get a reply of "a what". Either way besides the sore nipples and engorged boobs I will say this time around has been so much better regardless of using a nipple shield.
For you mamas who want to switch to formula don't take it to hard on yourself as long as baby gets fed and is healthy who cares what people think. At least you can say you tried and best of all at least baby got the colostrum the most important part!
@katyertl no one better give you any flack. It's your decision, your baby, and your body. No one else's. Your LO needs a happy mom, and like you said it's just not working. No guilt, it is what it is! Good luck at your pedi appt but again don't let anyone make you feel bad. We're here to support you!
TTC: 1/2014
BFP: 9/24
EDD: 6/8/2015
Sorry for the poor man's siggy...ticker won't load regardless of how many tips I read.
FTM here and I wish I didn't have flat nipples and didn't have to use the shield. It still hurts when she latches even with using the shield and I try my best to make sure she is latching correctly. I think bf would be so much easier if I didn't have to use the shield. Have been trying to try without the shield but have only been successful once and only on one side. Any advice on how to wean? And DD will be 3 weeks on Friday. When would you introduce an occasional bottle of breast milk to your baby?
@katyertl no one better give you any flack. It's your decision, your baby, and your body. No one else's. Your LO needs a happy mom, and like you said it's just not working. No guilt, it is what it is! Good luck at your pedi appt but again don't let anyone make you feel bad. We're here to support you!
Thanks ladies! I'm really hoping the pedatrican doesn't give me crap now lol
FTM here and I wish I didn't have flat nipples and didn't have to use the shield. It still hurts when she latches even with using the shield and I try my best to make sure she is latching correctly. I think bf would be so much easier if I didn't have to use the shield. Have been trying to try without the shield but have only been successful once and only on one side. Any advice on how to wean? And DD will be 3 weeks on Friday. When would you introduce an occasional bottle of breast milk to your baby?
We introduced a bottle a few days ago with pumped milk and she gobbled it right up. We had a selection of bottles my sister in law let us use to see what kind would work for us. So we found one that did and it went good! She did gobble it down fast so we are hoping to figure out how to slow her down even though we were using the lowest flow nipple
@katyertl You should definitely not worry about your pediatrician being upset for supplementing or switching completely to formula if necessary. I'm a pediatrician, and believe me, what we care about is that baby is gaining weight appropriately and that mom and baby are bonding well. If BF is super awful for you right now, try pumping or supplementing a bottle or two. An LC would prob kill me for saying it, but having that physical break can sometimes make it much more bearable. Breast milk is awesome, but it's the end result that is the most important thing to keep in mind--both baby's physical health and your emotional health!
I just want to say I PROMISE IT GETS EASIER... Think of pregnancy ... How miserable it is, if we had an easy way out we would have taken it... Right? If there was something fool proof to make us go into labor how many of us would have done it? I'm going to give my view....(not as a nurse)... as a second time mom who, with my first struggled, but gave up after 6 weeks. After the relief I felt of not having to breastfeed her, I had a major "oh shit what have I done moment" after it was too late and my milk dried up..it was too late. I would have done anything to turn back time, (and tried EVERYTHING) but it was too late my milk was gone. So I'm here to just say.. Don't give up.... Just give it 2 months (at most.. after a month it really does gets better), before a decision is made.. This is only to try to help someone not have the regrets I did, I'm not against women who have to bottle feed... Just want to encourage you all struggling stick with it! I write this one handed as LO is in a cluster phase and has been nursing ALL DAY.. Literally :!!
Yes! Thank you for the encouragement @HayesRN13 First day home & baby girl is cluster feeding, which the LC said might happen since she's more alert & needing comfort from being in a new environment. People visiting and my DH are getting so confused about me feeding her like every hour-2 hours when she gets upset & making hunger cues, BUT MOMMA KNOWS. & right now I'm typing while watching Thor out of the nursery & letting her feed AGAIN.
My nipples are so cracked and sore, I feel nauseous when it's time to feed her, but I suck it up.. I almost scream in pain for that first 30 seconds of her latching on... Please say it gets better
I just want to say I PROMISE IT GETS EASIER... Think of pregnancy ... How miserable it is, if we had an easy way out we would have taken it... Right? If there was something fool proof to make us go into labor how many of us would have done it? I'm going to give my view....(not as a nurse)... as a second time mom who, with my first struggled, but gave up after 6 weeks. After the relief I felt of not having to breastfeed her, I had a major "oh shit what have I done moment" after it was too late and my milk dried up..it was too late. I would have done anything to turn back time, (and tried EVERYTHING) but it was too late my milk was gone. So I'm here to just say.. Don't give up.... Just give it 2 months (at most.. after a month it really does gets better), before a decision is made.. This is only to try to help someone not have the regrets I did, I'm not against women who have to bottle feed... Just want to encourage you all struggling stick with it! I write this one handed as LO is in a cluster phase and has been nursing ALL DAY.. Literally :!!
Thank you so much for saying all this! I totally agree with everything here
Foremilk, hind milk, engorgment, mastitis fears, is my diet making LO gassy?, hand expressing. Breastfeeding is for the damn birds and I had ZERO idea there was so much to it.
Can anyone explain to me what the hell "Let down" feels like because I'm at a loss?
It's been 14 days since my babe made her arrival & I've cried so many times trying to figure all of this out. She's already a pound and 3 ounces over her birth weight & thank GOD for Earth Mama Angel Baby Nipple Butter but I can't help but feel stressed about my diet causing her gas pains. She's been grunting at the breast & has a mild case of GER.
Also, these growth spurt feeding marathons are for real! Not to mention the fussiness.
Thank you for starting this thread, this FTM needed a place to vent my worries & frustrations.
Foremilk, hind milk, engorgment, mastitis fears, is my diet making LO gassy?, hand expressing. Breastfeeding is for the damn birds and I had ZERO idea there was so much to it.
Can anyone explain to me what the hell "Let down" feels like because I'm at a loss?
I couldn't really feel my letdown at first. To me it's a slight twinge. I dunno that's the best way I could describe it. Some people don't feel it at all.
As far as fore milk and hind milk I don't think it's something to worry about. From what I understand baby gets both every feeding.
A mothers diet can affect the baby. My LO had a similar problem. His pediatrician recommended I avoid anything that gives me gas. Some of the culprits of upset stomachs in breastfed babies are dairy, chocolate, spicy foods, raw veggies and caffeine. This is according to what the dr told me.
I know it's frustrating but try not to stress too much it'll make things worse. I know, easier said than done but hang in there!
@katyertl You should definitely not worry about your pediatrician being upset for supplementing or switching completely to formula if necessary. I'm a pediatrician, and believe me, what we care about is that baby is gaining weight appropriately and that mom and baby are bonding well. If BF is super awful for you right now, try pumping or supplementing a bottle or two. An LC would prob kill me for saying it, but having that physical break can sometimes make it much more bearable. Breast milk is awesome, but it's the end result that is the most important thing to keep in mind--both baby's physical health and your emotional health!
I want to second this! I've had a look at the studies backing the health benefits of breastfeeding and whilst I think there are some health benefits, they are nowhere near as great as some people claim (at least for term babies with access to a clean water supply). And as far as I can see, claims about long term effects such as on IQ have very little evidence behind them. The most important thing is that your baby is fed, and that they have a healthy happy mother. If you want to breastfeed and you can then great, but there are alot of very valid reasons that it just doesn't work for particular mother-baby pairs, and you should never feel guilty about that.
Also remember that it doesn't necessarily have to be all or nothing. Lots of people successfully combo feed. Do what works for you and your baby, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks.
Foremilk, hind milk, engorgment, mastitis fears, is my diet making LO gassy?, hand expressing. Breastfeeding is for the damn birds and I had ZERO idea there was so much to it.
Can anyone explain to me what the hell "Let down" feels like because I'm at a loss?
It's been 14 days since my babe made her arrival & I've cried so many times trying to figure all of this out.
What I think is let down for me is a sort of prickly sensation over the fuller parts of my breast when we're approaching feeding time, especially when LO is crying.
I've cried multiple times over this too, so you're definitely not alone. For something so natural, it sure is bloody difficult! Plus sleep deprivation and sore nipples . But it sounds like you're doing a great job. Breastfeeding has been really hard for me, but it's getting better everyday, and now I'm actually starting to enjoy it.
@cmcards83 for me let down was a different feeing than I was expecting (based on what friends told me). Mine came in the form of feeling suddenly parched. Like a "get me a Big Gulp full of water stat" kind of thirst. I always had to have a bottle of water with me when I nursed. Reading The Womanly Art of Breast Feeding might help answer a lot of questions for you too. I didn't read it cover to cover, and I still got a lot out of it. I will probably check it out from the library again this week for a refresher course. Keep up all the great work ladies!!!
- taking my time with feedings. I was so tired the first few nights after birth that I was rushing through feeds without getting the latch right and just putting up with the pain. Big mistake! LO wasn't getting as much milk as he could so he'd wake up less than an hour later, and I did damage to my nipples. Once I started taking time to get the latch right things got much better.
- Doing a 1 on 1 session with the community midwife while LO fed. If it wasn't for that I would have probably switched to formula days ago.
- switching from nursing in bed to sitting in a chair (I'm using the Poang chair from IKEA, it's awesome!) Much more comfortable and I'm less worried about falling asleep while nursing.
- the Boppy pillow has been a big help. If you're not comfortable then you will struggle.
- when LO falls asleep at the breast, I roll him away from me, give him a few minutes to digest then wake him up (undressing him works well) and try again. Repeat until I'm sure he's full. He's slept much better since then
- I had really bad engorgement by day 4. So when LO gets hungry, DH takes him and soothes him while I make myself comfy and hand express off milk to soften up the breast. That way LO latches much better and isn't so frantic when he feeds.
- I noticed that LO was only draining half my breasts - I think that the engorgement was so bad that I got blocked milk ducts. Massaging the affected areas whilst nursing really helped soften everything up, and as a bonus LO is taking less time to nurse and is not suckling as hard as everything is flowing better.
I was making progress last week but things have gone downhill for me the last few days. I'm ready to give up again. So much pain from my cracked nipples has me questioning whether I can do this or not. LO is cluster feeding around noon and midnight these last few days too. I think I need to get a lactation specialist to come out and help me. I've put it off because things were getting better......
I've been exclusively pumping/bottle feeding for 3 days so my nipples could heal. LO really tore them up from improper latching. I just tried again right now and I feel we got the latch perfect! LO is only 8 days old so I hope she keeps it up. Breastfeeding is exhausting, especially when it's so painful. & pumping just takes so much out of the day. I feel bad but I don't want to do this any longer than a couple of months. Like a previous girl said, I just want to be happy at feedings and not stress about it and cry each time she's hungry!
It takes so freakin long! We are day 16 with nipple thrush, baby's still 100g under birth weight even with both boobs plus expressed top ups so we are now doing expressed feeds with formula top ups. I'm so over it but I have to keep going until we visit DH family in SE Asia due to water contamination and hygiene issues.
I was making progress last week but things have gone downhill for me the last few days. I'm ready to give up again. So much pain from my cracked nipples has me questioning whether I can do this or not. LO is cluster feeding around noon and midnight these last few days too. I think I need to get a lactation specialist to come out and help me. I've put it off because things were getting better......
I appear to be one of those rare super healthy women that just don't produce (or something wrong we don't know about) I am seeing the two best IBCLC's in our area and they are basically telling me that after pumping and taking many different supplements, that I should take a black market drug ... Domperidone. I really don't want to but super sad about this as the original plan was to breastfeed til like 2 Using a supplemental nursing system with donor milk right now from friends and family and a tiny bit of mine
Baby is 3 days old now. I still get painful contractions everytime he feeds. Do these go away eventually? Once my uterus is back down to size?
Yes! And they can be great for getting you back to your pre-baby size, too. Hang in there, it all gets better. I'm on Day 12 and feel like I just turned a corner. Just get through one feed at a time.
It does get better! The second kiddo seems easier, but I still remember crying in frustration because I felt like I couldn't keep up. But I did, and after 1-2 months, it was SO much easier. Stick with with it, you all are doing great!
And if you decide to switch to formula, there is nothing wrong with that. If the thought of bf-ing males you anxious or stressed and you aren't bonding, formula might be the right choice. Do what is best for your family and don't feel bad. We're all our own worst critic.
Be thankful if you don't know what letdown feels like. You probably just don't feel it. To me if feels like tingling fire racing through chest and down into my arms and hands. Its painful but bearable when I am in the act of nursing, if I have a letdown not nursing (seatbelt rubbing etc) it brings me to my knees. I have to use my labor coping skills to breathe through it.
If you are struggling with comments from others about how often you are nursing, I would recommend "Breastfeeding Made Simple - Seven Natural Laws for Breastfeeding Mothers" for support on this issue.
I am bothered by part of this book that imply that breastfeeding is the only acceptable option so I skip that but the book advocates for demand feeding and avoiding a schedule, covers supply and breast capacity differences, and explains laid back nursing. All of these things helped me.
I just reread it after a week with DS2 and it was much easier to explain to MIL and others why nursing on demand was important to establishing breastfeeding. She was much more understanding of why I indulge LO desire to nurse even if it seems like he just finished.
Got my nipple shield today and it is LIFE CHANGING!! I see an end in sight to all this pain, I think/hope! If I can get these cracks to heal, I am hoping we can keep using the "laid back" position and LO will still have a good latch. Here's hoping...
I wish all stores had rooms to BF. The mall here has small rooms with a glider and it's wonderful. I'm too shy to just pop my boob out in public and I hate those covers. What do you do in public? Maybe I just need to be more confident and just do the damn thing while DH doesn't the shopping.
I wish all stores had rooms to BF. The mall here has small rooms with a glider and it's wonderful. I'm too shy to just pop my boob out in public and I hate those covers. What do you do in public? Maybe I just need to be more confident and just do the damn thing while DH doesn't the shopping.
Ya! Pop on that cover.. Or even Lo's blanket and do it.. Don't worry about being in public no one cares, and if they do... Well they suck so who cares
I wish all stores had rooms to BF. The mall here has small rooms with a glider and it's wonderful. I'm too shy to just pop my boob out in public and I hate those covers. What do you do in public? Maybe I just need to be more confident and just do the damn thing while DH doesn't the shopping.
I use a muslin blanket, or one of the large infinity scarves/breastfeeding covers that Mom made for me. Found the pattern on Pinterest, and a bonus is they hide milk stains on my shirt X_X
Did y'all get your Earth Mama Angel Baby Nipple Butter at Target? Would it be completely insane to make a quick trip to Target as a family to get that & some baby meds & refills for my postpartum care at 5 days post? Our car seat has a car seat canopy thing, so she will be hidden from ALL eyes the whole time. I feel like it's okay, but then again, I feel like it might be a crazy idea.
Re: Breastfeeding sucks (but it gets better) - A support thread
We can do this ladies!
I'm hoping I'll at least get a little support from some of you ladies but totally get it if I do get slack about it
For you mamas who want to switch to formula don't take it to hard on yourself as long as baby gets fed and is healthy who cares what people think. At least you can say you tried and best of all at least baby got the colostrum the most important part!
First day home & baby girl is cluster feeding, which the LC said might happen since she's more alert & needing comfort from being in a new environment.
People visiting and my DH are getting so confused about me feeding her like every hour-2 hours when she gets upset & making hunger cues, BUT MOMMA KNOWS. & right now I'm typing while watching Thor out of the nursery & letting her feed AGAIN.
Can anyone explain to me what the hell "Let down" feels like because I'm at a loss?
It's been 14 days since my babe made her arrival & I've cried so many times trying to figure all of this out. She's already a pound and 3 ounces over her birth weight & thank GOD for Earth Mama Angel Baby Nipple Butter but I can't help but feel stressed about my diet causing her gas pains. She's been grunting at the breast & has a mild case of GER.
Also, these growth spurt feeding marathons are for real! Not to mention the fussiness.
Thank you for starting this thread, this FTM needed a place to vent my worries & frustrations.
As far as fore milk and hind milk I don't think it's something to worry about. From what I understand baby gets both every feeding.
A mothers diet can affect the baby. My LO had a similar problem. His pediatrician recommended I avoid anything that gives me gas. Some of the culprits of upset stomachs in breastfed babies are dairy, chocolate, spicy foods, raw veggies and caffeine. This is according to what the dr told me.
I know it's frustrating but try not to stress too much it'll make things worse. I know, easier said than done but hang in there!
Also remember that it doesn't necessarily have to be all or nothing. Lots of people successfully combo feed. Do what works for you and your baby, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks. What I think is let down for me is a sort of prickly sensation over the fuller parts of my breast when we're approaching feeding time, especially when LO is crying.
I've cried multiple times over this too, so you're definitely not alone. For something so natural, it sure is bloody difficult! Plus sleep deprivation and sore nipples . But it sounds like you're doing a great job. Breastfeeding has been really hard for me, but it's getting better everyday, and now I'm actually starting to enjoy it.
- taking my time with feedings. I was so tired the first few nights after birth that I was rushing through feeds without getting the latch right and just putting up with the pain. Big mistake! LO wasn't getting as much milk as he could so he'd wake up less than an hour later, and I did damage to my nipples. Once I started taking time to get the latch right things got much better.
- Doing a 1 on 1 session with the community midwife while LO fed. If it wasn't for that I would have probably switched to formula days ago.
- switching from nursing in bed to sitting in a chair (I'm using the Poang chair from IKEA, it's awesome!) Much more comfortable and I'm less worried about falling asleep while nursing.
- the Boppy pillow has been a big help. If you're not comfortable then you will struggle.
- when LO falls asleep at the breast, I roll him away from me, give him a few minutes to digest then wake him up (undressing him works well) and try again. Repeat until I'm sure he's full. He's slept much better since then
- I had really bad engorgement by day 4. So when LO gets hungry, DH takes him and soothes him while I make myself comfy and hand express off milk to soften up the breast. That way LO latches much better and isn't so frantic when he feeds.
- I noticed that LO was only draining half my breasts - I think that the engorgement was so bad that I got blocked milk ducts. Massaging the affected areas whilst nursing really helped soften everything up, and as a bonus LO is taking less time to nurse and is not suckling as hard as everything is flowing better.
And if you decide to switch to formula, there is nothing wrong with that. If the thought of bf-ing males you anxious or stressed and you aren't bonding, formula might be the right choice. Do what is best for your family and don't feel bad. We're all our own worst critic.
I am bothered by part of this book that imply that breastfeeding is the only acceptable option so I skip that but the book advocates for demand feeding and avoiding a schedule, covers supply and breast capacity differences, and explains laid back nursing. All of these things helped me.
I just reread it after a week with DS2 and it was much easier to explain to MIL and others why nursing on demand was important to establishing breastfeeding. She was much more understanding of why I indulge LO desire to nurse even if it seems like he just finished.
Would it be completely insane to make a quick trip to Target as a family to get that & some baby meds & refills for my postpartum care at 5 days post? Our car seat has a car seat canopy thing, so she will be hidden from ALL eyes the whole time. I feel like it's okay, but then again, I feel like it might be a crazy idea.