2nd Trimester

Cannabis for the queezy

I have been smoking Cannabis now and then because it is honnest and for true the only thing that helps me keep food down, I have tryed small portions of food, i have tryed the pills prescribed by my Midwife, nothing worked but having a small hoot now and then and I can eat like no tomorrow and the food stays down, I feel conflict doing it though because ny Midwife says it cuts off nutrients to my baby but wouldn't not eating and or not keeping food down be worse?

Also i am scared she will report it to CFS and I will loose my child over a simple matter of using a plant to help me keep my food in my stomach...

Should I quit and rough through it, or continue to do what i am doing and tell my Midwife I have stopped.?
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  • You can tell the midwife whatever you want but she can run a drug screen and see the proof for herself

    For your sake, I would stop smoking. They can report you to social services and get them involved after the baby is born if you are using during pregnancy, even if it is just Marijuana
  • Stop. Why put your baby at risk? Also, in many places it is now a law to drug screen throughout pregnancy. If you fail, CPS will get involved.
  • ^^ lets hope so.
  • In the states that cannabis is LEGAL in, pregnant women are allowed to smoke without consequences, Now if you're in a state that its ILLEGAL. Stop being stupid and stop smoking. Now you can try Hemp oil, which is THC free and will not get you high and is legal in all 50 states. It calms nausea, head aches, and a bunch of other stuff. I smoke hemp oil. So i know first hand.
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  • Honestly same with me. But I stopped not because people Will think I am a "bad mommy" but because smoking anything is bad for your lungs and because I am not able to test the grade that I'm smoking. You don't know what chemicals the growers put in their cannabis.

    If you really have to continue using cannabis as a way to help, which it certainly does in ways I cannot describe, try boiling it as a tea instead. However I urge you to find maybe some sess or something as natural as possible to avoid those serious chemicals.

    Marijuana is natural and great but it's all chemically enhanced so be careful just like with anything else we are putting in our bodies at this time.

    God bless :)

  • Saereniti said:

    I have been smoking Cannabis now and then because it is honnest and for true the only thing that helps me keep food down, I have tryed small portions of food, i have tryed the pills prescribed by my Midwife, nothing worked but having a small hoot now and then and I can eat like no tomorrow and the food stays down, I feel conflict doing it though because ny Midwife says it cuts off nutrients to my baby but wouldn't not eating and or not keeping food down be worse?

    Also i am scared she will report it to CFS and I will loose my child over a simple matter of using a plant to help me keep my food in my stomach...

    Should I quit and rough through it, or continue to do what i am doing and tell my Midwife I have stopped.?

    I understand morning sickness. However, are there safer forms of THC that can do the trick vs. Smoking it? Do you live where medically necessary weed is legal? My state does not allow it & federally it's still a crime.

    I'm not against pot in general, but smoking it can deprive baby of oxygen & slow growth. It's also not proven what effects the bud can have on brain growth & other structures for the infant later. Like tobacco (also "just a plant") the adverse effects aren't worth the risk for me personally.

    Baby takes all nutrients from you. So while malnutrition is (obviously) not encouraged it's not terribly worrisome. The dehydration is a factor as well. If you truly can't keep liquids down you should tell your OB or midwife. That is more serious than the food issue.

    If your provider suspects any illegal drug use they can order a drug screen on the infant at birth. They can also ask for hair samples from you. So even if you were to quit tomorrow it takes 6-8 months for the hair to shed enough for those test to come back clean.

    Legally, in most states, if you pop on the drug screen or baby does, then it's grounds for the state (CPS) involved.

    I would stop. Not just for the health of my fetus, but because you don't want to fool with CPS.


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  • In the states that cannabis is LEGAL in, pregnant women are allowed to smoke without consequences, Now if you're in a state that its ILLEGAL. Stop being stupid and stop smoking. Now you can try Hemp oil, which is THC free and will not get you high and is legal in all 50 states. It calms nausea, head aches, and a bunch of other stuff. I smoke hemp oil. So i know first hand.

    I am not really educated on this matter, but are there really no consequences to the baby if you smoke it while pregnant? The legality wasn't my only concern.
    No there are no KNOWN consequences to the baby, they haven't done a lot of studies on it. But it has proven to cut off oxygen and nutrients while smoking it. And it stays in they're system through the pregnancy so there is a chance if they do a drug test on the baby at birth they'll find it.
  • I know how many people are against smoking while pregnant. Let me start off by saying I DO NOT SUGGEST SMOKING POT TO ANY PREGNANT WOMAN. That being said I know how you're feeling. For the first 4 months of my pregnancy I smoked pot because I had mind numbing migraines that Tylenol wouldn't even touch. I told my first dr because I wanted to quit for my baby's sake. She in turn prescribed me narcotics for EVERYDAY migraines. I switched Drs, told him about it and how I wanted to quit so badly for my baby. He told me that if I was still testing positive for high levels of thc in my 7th month he would have to call child protective services and they would want to inspect my home and make sure I was fit to take care of baby but that there was a low chance they would take my baby because of it. Now, there is no studies linking any deformity or health problem to pot. Simply because most mothers that use pot during pregnancy are using something else. I suggest quitting ASAP it will make you feel much better and keep baby safe.
  • I got lucky and had no morning sickness at all. If I did have it I'd rather puke my brains out vs giving my unborn child pot. Not judging anyone, just my personal opinion.
  • In the states that cannabis is LEGAL in, pregnant women are allowed to smoke without consequences, Now if you're in a state that its ILLEGAL. Stop being stupid and stop smoking. Now you can try Hemp oil, which is THC free and will not get you high and is legal in all 50 states. It calms nausea, head aches, and a bunch of other stuff. I smoke hemp oil. So i know first hand.

    PA: A friend smoked pot through both of her pregnancies. Each time CYS was called in after delivery and she needed to test clean for so long, or they would take the baby. 

    As for the effects on the baby...well, think of it this way: If the baby was here, right now, would you blow it in their face? Would you want them to have it? I stopped drinking alcohol because I wouldn't give my baby a drink. I try not to ingest caffeine for the same reason, or too much sugar. I had terrible morning sickness, but the OB gave me Diclegese (sp?) which helped out A LOT. 
  • I smoked pot occasionally in my first pregnancy and at 18mnths my daughter had a seizure and ended up on life support now I know it probably wasn't because I smoked pot but I blaimed myself for years! It's not worth It! I'm sure there are other ways to calm the nausea without having to do something illegal please look at your options! Goodluck
  • It makes me so sad that any woman would smoke/consume cannabis knowingly during pregnancy. I had pretty severe sickness until 17 weeks and I wouldn't take prescription drugs (though I would if hospitalization were my only other choice), much less touch pot with a 10 foot pole.
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    Just an FYI that if you have been smoking pot in your 2nd trimester even if you quit now it will be present in the babies meconium when they are born.
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    FiancB said:

    FWIW, I am all for legal pot. I used to smoke, even. I do think it's a fantastic alternative to many drugs out there and that criminalization is a huge waste of resources.


    HOWEVER. It is NOT healthy for a developing baby. There's worse things, sure, but there is plenty of evidence for poor outcomes of babies whose mothers smoked and depending on where you are, that could be grounds for involving CPS. , Don't do it. FFS. I'm sure this is MUD, but I'm also sure this isn't the first person that attempted to rationalize this kind of stupidity. 

    You know what else is natural? Hemlock, but no one suggests you should eat it. 

    "Exposure to marijuana during pregnancy may result in low birth weight, intracranial bleeding, jitteriness, low blood sugar, low levels of calcium in the blood, or an infection of the blood called sepsis. The use of marijuana in pregnancy can cause other problems in the baby such as poor feeding, irritability, and rapid breathing." Very similar to cigarette use. 

    This. I hope CPS steps in and looks out for the well being of your child, because you certainly aren't.
  • I think there are other ways to be able to eat and keep food down. For one this is completely illegal, you can have your baby taken away if born with the in their body, and why risk anything to your unborn baby. With my first pregnancy, I had twins. I literally was sick until 17 weeks I lost 17 pounds, and could not keep anything at all down. Both of my boys were born healthy and perfect. I did nothing to risk their health to make myself fee better. I think you should look at some of the options other posters have suggested and stop smoking. Good luck! I really hope this is a MUD post for the sake of the baby.
  • mishala12 said:

    In Washington we have great access to organic medical grade marijuana and my midwife sugested it as a natural alternative to prescription drugs.

    No. Just no.
    I live in Washington too. Just because its legal does not mean it should be done while pregnant. Alcohol is legal too. Doesn't make that safe. Anything that alters your state of mind should not be done during pregnancy.
    Smoking pot during pregnancy may affect the growth of your baby and the development of the baby's nervous system.
    That midwife should not be telling her clients that smoking pot is acceptable.
  • My sister in law smoked throughout her pregnancy and her doctor told her that saved her baby's life.
  • groovylocksgroovylocks member
    edited May 2015
    The poster above me is correct. ANY research done outside the USA has seen no evidence of fetal damage by mild marijuana use. You only need to do research to see this. 

    A few of my friends ate pot brownies a few times during their first trimesters to stimulate their appetites and their kids were just fine. Almost all of them excel today. 

    See, outside the USA, it's not demonized. And while it's been deemed to be safe for pregnant women in small doses, my thinking is like this. 

    You're inflicting an unnecessary, foreign substance on a growing brain. 

    Cannabis sativa is perfectly safe for an adult brain. It's probably pretty safe for an almost-developed teenage brain too. But your baby's brain and organs are growing and developing and what is safe for you might not be safe for her. It's the same reason I don't TOUCH tylenol, even though they "say" it's safe... I don't agree with that. It's a painkiller. It has an effect on the nervous system. Period. 

    That and the USA is quite backward about pot and therefore it's against the law in the USA. And the paranoia is unfathomable. We're talking your kid gets taken away from you if it's found in your system (interestingly enough however, a mom who smokes cigarettes or starves herself is fine to keep her kid... can you imagine?)
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    My sister in law smoked throughout her pregnancy and her doctor told her that saved her baby's life.
    Do tell. 
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    The poster above me is correct. ANY research done outside the USA has seen no evidence of fetal damage by mild marijuana use. You only need to do research to see this. 

    A few of my friends ate pot brownies a few times during their first trimesters to stimulate their appetites and their kids were just fine. Almost all of them excel today. 


    Research from where? I Smoke All Day Magazine? Links, please. 

    Like I said, I used to smoke myself and I'm all about legalization. I agree there is a lot of unfounded hysteria around marijuana in general, but I cannot support smoking it when pregnant. 

    My DH's mom smoked when pregnant with him and he's fine. Does not make it okay or a good idea. She got lucky. 
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  • I get that being able to eat is important, but there are safer ways to do that. All drugs come with a risk factor during pregnancy. I'm for legalization of marijuana as well, but I just can't see using it during pregnancy; it can't be tested sufficiently, and I really don't see it as a benefits outweighing the risk situation when there are other meds available.
  • I get that being able to eat is important, but there are safer ways to do that. All drugs come with a risk factor during pregnancy. I'm for legalization of marijuana as well, but I just can't see using it during pregnancy; it can't be tested sufficiently, and I really don't see it as a benefits outweighing the risk situation when there are other meds available.

    This. I think it's unwise during pg.

    Pot =/= depression medication.


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  • Calling this as it is, mud.
  • A study here and there concluding that THC does not harm a fetus is not grounds for calling it safe. There are guidelines to what can be considered a valid study (population size, the ability to replicate results in other independent studies, strictly controlled variables, for starters). On the other hand, there HAS been valid research done that shows that THC DOES inhibit proper fetal brain development, even if the effects are not severe. Maybe some Charlottes Web oil would be ok (MAYBE) since it is low THC, but without valid studies concluding its safety, it is not worth the risk to a developing baby.
  • I'm hoping now that it is legal in a couple of states that maybe some research in the us can be conducted on this topic. I believe everything in moderation. I also worry about inhaling too long, that is when the oxygen is withheld from baby.
  • jenboston22jenboston22 member
    edited May 2015
    In case anyone's interested, this month's National Geographic has a very interesting piece about marijuana and the potential benefits of its derivatives.

    (It's especially interesting to me because I have severe Crohn's Disease, and Crohn's Disease is one of the many diseases that may be treated by marijuana-derived drugs. I personally don't use marijuana, but my disease is so severe that only one drug has actually worked in treating it; if this drug stops working, it's nice to know that there are other drugs that are being worked on that may help, too. And on a non-personal note, the story of the little girl with hundreds of seizures a day broke my heart.)
  • groovylocksgroovylocks member
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    FiancB said:
    The poster above me is correct. ANY research done outside the USA has seen no evidence of fetal damage by mild marijuana use. You only need to do research to see this. 

    A few of my friends ate pot brownies a few times during their first trimesters to stimulate their appetites and their kids were just fine. Almost all of them excel today. 


    Research from where? I Smoke All Day Magazine? Links, please. 

    Like I said, I used to smoke myself and I'm all about legalization. I agree there is a lot of unfounded hysteria around marijuana in general, but I cannot support smoking it when pregnant. 

    My DH's mom smoked when pregnant with him and he's fine. Does not make it okay or a good idea. She got lucky. 

    Yes hence the rest of my post. I'm not familiar with that publication you mention. It was a german series of studies a few years ago but I can try to drum them up. It also stressed occasional and light use. Nowhere did I say chronic use. Also, as the rest of my post clearly states, I don't believe in putting any drugs up against a developing human system. I realize it's hard on readability to quote an entire long posts but maybe even reading the whole of what I wrote would have saved you some effort.
  • In case anyone's interested, this month's National Geographic has a very interesting piece about marijuana and the potential benefits of its derivatives.


    (It's especially interesting to me because I have severe Crohn's Disease, and Crohn's Disease is one of the many diseases that may be treated by marijuana-derived drugs. I personally don't use marijuana, but my disease is so severe that only one drug has actually worked in treating it; if this drug stops working, it's nice to know that there are other drugs that are being worked on that may help, too. And on a non-personal note, the story of the little girl with hundreds of seizures a day broke my heart.)
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  • In the states that cannabis is LEGAL in, pregnant women are allowed to smoke without consequences, Now if you're in a state that its ILLEGAL. Stop being stupid and stop smoking. Now you can try Hemp oil, which is THC free and will not get you high and is legal in all 50 states. It calms nausea, head aches, and a bunch of other stuff. I smoke hemp oil. So i know first hand.
    I would agree with this. If you're truly only after the nausea-tempering effects and not trying to get high at the same time, be conservative and go with the the hemp oil. 
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