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cbreef · May 2015

Hey ladies!!

I'm new to this board. So I'd like to introduce myself. Although, like everyone else, I hope to be joining a birth month board soon.

My husband and I have been trying very hard to conceive our second child for a year now. We experienced a loss in December that seriously broke my heart and spirit. After the loss we decided to invite some scientific assistance. I started taking Metformin to control PCOS, but still, after 4 cycles, I wasn't pregnant. This last cycle we decided to try Clomid.

I just found out from my doctor that the progesterone test shows that I did ovulate!! Such a huge weight is off my shoulders, just knowing that my body responded well to the Clomid. I'm so nervous and excited to take a pregnancy test, but terrified of false negatives. So I will keep waiting.

Thanks for letting me share!

Everycol0r · May 2015

Hello & so, so sorry for your loss!

I do hope for a BFP soon too but I never want to leave these ladies!

[Deleted User] · May 2015

Hello and welcome

I know you're seeing a specialist (I assume you're seeing an RE if you're on Clomid?) but I'd love to suggest charting. It will help you feel like you have more control over the situation. Check out FertilityFriend.com to assist your charting.

cbreef · May 2015

@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

[Deleted User] · May 2015

cbreef said:
@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

Oh that's great that you're familiar with charting! You'll fit in very well here

You will see a lot of us using FF to chart and you can creep on ours by looking at our signatures, if you want. I noticed some ladies on here have said that if you need Clomid you typically should be seeing an RE, is that something you have considered? I know Clomid can get pretty gnarly. My friend couldn't go on it because of the higher risk of having multiples.

CharmBombExplosion · May 2015

cbreef said:
@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

Hello and welcome! Clomid is a pretty serious drug, you should really only be taking it under an RE to make sure the proper monitoring gets done. Paging @TheBorg7of9 since she's much more of an expert on this

kmcc14 · May 2015

Welcome! As PP have said, you should not be taking Clomid from an OB. Is your doctor doing any monitoring?

cbreef · May 2015

What kind of monitoring is needed? I had my progesterone tested on day 21.

JustLivinLife · May 2015

Welcome!!!

jnnfrrose6 · May 2015

cbreef said:
@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

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Clomid is a serious drug that should only be taken when properly monitored by an RE. You have no business taking it from your OB. Did you and your husband have all necessary testing done? Are you sure Clomid would even help you and the problem isn't your husband?

jnnfrrose6 · May 2015

cbreef said:
What kind of monitoring is needed? I had my progesterone tested on day 21.

@TheBorg7of9 We need your help over here!

ktmitchell11 · May 2015

I have a question...My doctor wanted me on clomid monitored and I insisted non being monitored. But why are all these OB's prescribing the clomid if they shouldn't be? More of a curiousity. Why would a medical doctor prescribe something that is dangerous?

Rabbitheart15 · May 2015

No expertise to offer, but welcome here!

cbreef · May 2015

cbreef said:

jnnfrrose6 said:

cbreef said:
@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

.

Clomid is a serious drug that should only be taken when properly monitored by an RE. You have no business taking it from your OB. Did you and your husband have all necessary testing done? Are you sure Clomid would even help you and the problem isn't your husband?

jnnfrrose6 said:
I'm sorry. Are you a doctor? I don't appreciate the tone and language in your post. I came here for support and to be supportive. This comment is not supportive.

PrimRoseMama · May 2015

cbreef said:
Hey ladies!!

I'm new to this board. So I'd like to introduce myself. Although, like everyone else, I hope to be joining a birth month board soon.

My husband and I have been trying very hard to conceive our second child for a year now. We experienced a loss in December that seriously broke my heart and spirit. After the loss we decided to invite some scientific assistance. I started taking Metformin to control PCOS, but still, after 4 cycles, I wasn't pregnant. This last cycle we decided to try Clomid.

I just found out from my doctor that the progesterone test shows that I did ovulate!! Such a huge weight is off my shoulders, just knowing that my body responded well to the Clomid. I'm so nervous and excited to take a pregnancy test, but terrified of false negatives. So I will keep waiting.

Thanks for letting me share!

Welcome. I could be wrong, but conception starts your Year TTC timetable over? I'm very sorry about your loss but I think perhaps you are jumping the gun with the Clomid. Especially with an OB-- you should be getting ultrasounds to check follicles & predict ovulation...

Today is going to require Turkish Coffee...

jnnfrrose6 · May 2015

cbreef said:

jnnfrrose6 said:

cbreef said:
@Everycol0r Thank you for your sympathy

@antoto Actually, my regular OB gave me the Clomid and the Metformin. Thank you for the website suggestion! I am terrible at charting!! I didn't really chart this cycle, but I did keep a detailed calendar of OPK and CM. If we didn't get it this cycle, next cycle I will definitely be temping.

.

Clomid is a serious drug that should only be taken when properly monitored by an RE. You have no business taking it from your OB. Did you and your husband have all necessary testing done? Are you sure Clomid would even help you and the problem isn't your husband?

jnnfrrose6 said:

jnnfrrose6 said:
I'm sorry. Are you a doctor? I don't appreciate the tone and language in your post. I came here for support and to be supportive. This comment is not supportive.

Thank you for reading tone into a post that wasn't there. I chose to include a gif that is humorous. Clomid is a serious drug with a 6 time limit of use in a lifetime. Providing you with information is beyond supportive. I'm looking out for your health and wellbeing (and potentially that of your unborn children) and you think I'm not being supportive?

[Deleted User] · May 2015

PrimRoseMama said:

cbreef said:
Hey ladies!!

I'm new to this board. So I'd like to introduce myself. Although, like everyone else, I hope to be joining a birth month board soon.

My husband and I have been trying very hard to conceive our second child for a year now. We experienced a loss in December that seriously broke my heart and spirit. After the loss we decided to invite some scientific assistance. I started taking Metformin to control PCOS, but still, after 4 cycles, I wasn't pregnant. This last cycle we decided to try Clomid.

I just found out from my doctor that the progesterone test shows that I did ovulate!! Such a huge weight is off my shoulders, just knowing that my body responded well to the Clomid. I'm so nervous and excited to take a pregnancy test, but terrified of false negatives. So I will keep waiting.

Thanks for letting me share!
Welcome. I could be wrong, but conception starts your Year TTC timetable over? I'm very sorry about your loss but I think perhaps you are jumping the gun with the Clomid. Especially with an OB-- you should be getting ultrasounds to check follicles & predict ovulation...

Today is going to require Turkish Coffee...

@cbreef this sounds right to me. I would suggest seeing a new OB - and I might even suggest seeing a midwife instead. I feel like I hear an awful lot of stories of women being prescribed Clomid when it is not needed. Hey, this should be good news to you!

kmcc14 · May 2015

cbreef said:
What kind of monitoring is needed? I had my progesterone tested on day 21.

kmcc14 · May 2015

I don't know all the specifics, but you should be having ultrasounds done to check your follies. Also, did you have an hsg to make sure that your tubes are clear and did your DH have a SA?

My comments didn't show up in my other post. Weird.

PrimRoseMama · May 2015

cbreef said:
What kind of monitoring is needed? I had my progesterone tested on day 21.

A lot more than what you appear to have had done. You aren't even at a year post-MC. I'm not sure I would be jumping to medicated cycles at this point.

This should help:
https://www.babymed.com/fertility-treatment/tests-starting-clomiphene-clomid

cbreef · May 2015

I guess I'm just nervous now. I did what I thought was right and now you guys are saying I was wrong and my trusted doctor was wrong. I was given Clomid because I have a history of long cycles (50+ days). It was supposed to help increase our chances and provide more opportunity to conceive. My doctor never suggested that it was dangerous or unsafe. She's been my doctor for over 3 years and seen me through two losses and one successful pregnancy. I've had multiple tests done and she believed this was the right thing to do. She did tell me that if I didn't ovulate after 50mg and trying 100mg she would refer me to a specialist.

PrimRoseMama · May 2015

cbreef said:
I guess I'm just nervous now. I did what I thought was right and now you guys are saying I was wrong and my trusted doctor was wrong. I was given Clomid because I have a history of long cycles (50+ days). It was supposed to help increase our chances and provide more opportunity to conceive. My doctor never suggested that it was dangerous or unsafe. She's been my doctor for over 3 years and seen me through two losses and one successful pregnancy. I've had multiple tests done and she believed this was the right thing to do. She did tell me that if I didn't ovulate after 50mg and trying 100mg she would refer me to a specialist.

OBs are great at helping you through pregnancy & birth. They are not that great at getting you pregnant.

I'm surprised you are moving on so quickly without trying again for the full 12 months? I think getting a second opinion from a specialist could benefit you.

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kmcc14 · May 2015

@cbreef did you have an hsg and did your DH have a SA? Clomid won't help if your tubes are blocked or if there is an issue with your DH's sperm.

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TheBorg7of9 · May 2015

Hello and welcome,

You are not the first and will not be the last to come on this site after having taken Clomid unmonitored. I hope you are not one of the people who have a bad side effect, but you have no way of knowing without being monitored.

I'm sure you trust your doctor and she's an amazing OB. But she is doing you a disservice by giving unmonitored clomid. You can always go back to her after you are pregnant, but OBs do not have the expertise to treat infertility. This is proven by her giving you clomid unmonitored.

The ladies here are just trying to help you, so please try not to get defensive and listen to what we have to say. I have followed the ttc journeys of probably 100 women on clomid and I have seen what can happen when it is unmonitored: cysts, ER visits, multiples, thinned uterine lining, overresponse and underresponse.

First, clomid can only be taken 6 times in your life. That is because (although unproven) doctors suspect a link to cancer. Also, if it doesn't work the first 4-5 times, it is probably not going to work. Therefore, it is in your best interest to have your husbands semen checked and your tubes checked first. If those are bad, all the clomid in the world won't get you pregnant.

... To be continued.

cbreef · May 2015

@PrimRoseMama

Thank you for the website.

I did have most of those tests done before my last pregnancy and my husband's sperm shouldn't be an issue. We have another child and he has a child from a previous relationship.

I'm 32 years old and I've had diagnosed PCOS since I was 18.

At the last test (10/14) my FSH was 5.5 mIU/mL and my LH was 16.5mIU/mL and my prolactin was 7.5.

I also had an ultrasound right after my most recent loss and everything was clear and normal.

Maybe this information will help. I really do feel like I know what I'm doing and I trust my doctor.

TheBorg7of9 · May 2015

cbreef said:
@PrimRoseMama
Thank you for the website.
I did have most of those tests done before my last pregnancy and my husband's sperm shouldn't be an issue. We have another child and he has a child from a previous relationship.
I'm 32 years old and I've had diagnosed PCOS since I was 18.
At the last test (10/14) my FSH was 5.5 mIU/mL and my LH was 16.5mIU/mL and my prolactin was 7.5.
I also had an ultrasound right after my most recent loss and everything was clear and normal.
Maybe this information will help. I really do feel like I know what I'm doing and I trust my doctor.

Just because you've had children before does not mean your husbands semen analysis is still good and your tubes are still clear. There's such a thing as secondary infertility.

I got pregnant and miscarried in September 2009. We could not get pregnant again and it turned out to be he had a low sperm count.

Again, I'm sure you OB is a good OB, but she does not have training to deal with infertility.

TheBorg7of9 · May 2015

...continued.

Every clomid cycle must be monitored with bloodwork and ultrasounds as follows;
Cycle day 3: bloodwork to double check for pregnancy before starting a drug that is dangerous in pregnancy. Also to check estrogen levels. Ultrasound to check for pre existing cysts which can grow out of control if you take clomid. (I have seen women on here go to the ER for cysts and even lose an ovary)

Midcycle (repeated as needed every 2-3 days): ultrasounds to check how many follicles you have. Too few and the cycke can be adjusted or meds changed next time. Too many and you face high order multiples or a selective abortion in the second trimester. I had 4 follies the first time I took clomid and chose to cancel my iui and not have sex. Do you know who didn't cancel? John and Kate plus 8. Ultrasounds also check for a thinned uterine lining which can be adjusted with meds. Bloodwork also to check estrogen levels.

You need to see a reproductive endocrinologist. Ask your insurance whether your year started over when you had the miscarriage or whether you can go now.

I wish you lots of luck!!

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