Final Choices - Baby Girl

mommaKCS · April 2015

DH and I have our top three baby girl names for our baby due 8/2. We have our boy name locked in - Macsen Jack (Max-in).

DSS's are Jonas & Tucker
DD (still born 8/2014) - Madigan Elise (Maggie)

Our top 3 are (alphabetical):
• Ever
• Mila
• Rowan

Including both of our all time favorites, which can't be agreed upon: Aurelia (mine) and Finley (his)

Middle name will be Abigail for any of the top 3.

Vote/Opinions are welcome! Thank you!

HeavenBlessedMom · April 2015

Macsen needs to go out the window, aS Do the girl names. Please remember you're naming a human.

mommaKCS · April 2015

Yeah, not happening. I would love to hear your reasons for this opinion, though.

magsugar13 · April 2015

What does Macsen even sound like?

It certainly isnt Mason if that is what you were intending.

missemmawoodhouse · April 2015

If you're going to slap Macsen on a kid, at least let his first name be Jack.

I chose Mila because Aurelia Abigail doesn't have a good flow. I don't like the rest of your girl names.

KCwalza146 · April 2015

I like Mila best

mommaKCS · April 2015

magsugar13 said:
What does Macsen even sound like?
It certainly isnt Mason if that is what you were intending.

...I have the pronunciation VERY clearly in parenthesis right next to it.

Macsen is a very old name with rich (and pretty awesome) history. It's Welsh. For "name enthusiasts," a few of you are surprisingly uneducated on actual name etymology! If you haven't heard of something, you shouldn't assume that a person is "slapping" a made-up name on a child. This is an observation after reading through quite a few threads - not just this one.

@missemmawoodhouse - if I could talk DH into Aurelia, middle name would be Caroline as I agree! Same with Finley (awkward initials), although I prefer this on a male.

ClaireBear90 · April 2015

Rowan Abigail is great because the middle name is so clearly feminine and Rowan goes either way. I really like the name Rowan, it's my favorite of your list.

Ever Abigail - that's a definite no for me.

Aurelia Abigail - too much. I don't think Aurelia and Abigail suit each other very well. Aurelia with a different mn would be pretty.

Mila Abigail - pretty combination and I think the names work better together than Rowan Abigail, my second favorite of your list.

Finley Abigail - apologies to your husband, but no. I don't like Finley on a girl.

I'll admit that Macsen looks very "made up" to me and (not being a name expert) I immediately assumed it was. The pronunciation was obvious to me though, even without you giving it. But if I heard the name, I'd butcher the spelling of it. I'm torn on obscure names because on the one hand, I like seeing a name used that hasn't been used over and over . . . but on the other hand, your child is going to have to constantly spell it for people and since his brothers have "known" names, he might resent being the only one with an unusual name.

koriemo · April 2015

I dislike Macsen with because IMO it's too close to Maggie. It also doesn't seem to pair well with Jonas and Tucker.

As far as girl names go- I love Ever and Mila! Rowan isn't my style. I think Mila fits best with your other children too.

apriljoy32 · April 2015

I love Mila and Ever. I would give the edge to Ever, only because Mila is becoming a bit popular.( but I still think it's beautiful and would use it. ) Ever is most definitely a bold choice. Good luck

nicosh8 · April 2015

I really like the name Mila. I don't care for any of the other choices.

I also think Jonas, Tucker, and Mila sound very nice together for a sibset.

wassuphoes · April 2015

Mila by a mile. By 10 miles. by a 100 miles.

I also don't care for Macsen. I agree it's very close to Madigan/Maggie and would probably just stick with Maximus.

LNic5 · April 2015

Mila by a long shot

LizWhiz87 · April 2015

Rowan is a boy's name. Ever is not a name. Aurelia is not my style. Finley is a boy's name. Mila is your best bet.

As for Macsen, real name or not, I am not a fan. The spelling is strange and it doesn't make enough of an impact to justify picking such an esoteric name. Maxwell or Mason would be better.

Manderlin923 · April 2015

I love Mila!

I also like Everly, which is totally a guilty pleasure name, more than Ever.

Aurelia is lovely but too frilly for me. Rowan is okay. But I do prefer it on a boy (same with Finley)

holli0801 · April 2015

Like Mila, but love Rowan.

Jessie42613 · April 2015

LizWhiz87 said:
Rowan is a boy's name. Ever is not a name. Aurelia is not my style. Finley is a boy's name. Mila is your best bet.

As for Macsen, real name or not, I am not a fan. The spelling is strange and it doesn't make enough of an impact to justify picking such an esoteric name. Maxwell or Mason would be better.

This. All of this.

kap1988 · April 2015

How do you pronounce Ever? Like happily ever after or like Adam and Ever? I like Mila or Aurelia with a shorter middle name.

LuvLoveXo · April 2015

Macsen is ridiculous. Please don't do that to your child!!! I would toss this entire list. Ugh.

Rudetomata · April 2015

Love Mila, very pretty and exotic.

Ever? Never. Never Ever.

I know you weren't asking an opinion on Macsen. I just wanted to point out one minor thing about Macsen that hasn't been mentioned. I debated whether it was too petty to even mention but, hey, I've actually got some time to kill sitting here waiting for toddlers to fall into a deep enough sleep to make my escspe.
Someone wrote that they knew immediately how to pronounce it. Well, I would have pronounced it exactly as its spelled, (Mac-sen). I know that is an extremely subtle difference in sound. Because it is so subtle I see one of two things happening, though.
If he's an easygoing guy he'll probably learn to just tolerate it and not bother to correct people. I know, subtle enough that you probably don't care. If he's really easygoing, though, he'll probably even let people call him Mason or whatever other wrong pronunciation they come up with. I've known folks with hard to pronounce names that tell people to call them whatever they want and tolerate a myriad of butchered pronunciations.
That's the good scenario. If he's an anal kind of personality, on the other hand, he might just drive himself crazy correcting a mispronounciation that is so subtle that some people may not even hear the difference. Leading to conversations like this one:
"Mac-sen?"
"It's Max-in"
"That's what I said, Mac-sen."
"No, not Mac-sen, Max-in."
(Pause) "Who's on first?"

and that could lead to people thinking he is crazy or at least very tightly wound.

mommaKCS · April 2015

Rudetomata said:
Love Mila, very pretty and exotic.

Ever? Never. Never Ever.

I know you weren't asking an opinion on Macsen. I just wanted to point out one minor thing about Macsen that hasn't been mentioned. I debated whether it was too petty to even mention but, hey, I've actually got some time to kill sitting here waiting for toddlers to fall into a deep enough sleep to make my escspe.
Someone wrote that they knew immediately how to pronounce it. Well, I would have pronounced it exactly as its spelled, (Mac-sen). I know that is an extremely subtle difference in sound. Because it is so subtle I see one of two things happening, though.
If he's an easygoing guy he'll probably learn to just tolerate it and not bother to correct people. I know, subtle enough that you probably don't care. If he's really easygoing, though, he'll probably even let people call him Mason or whatever other wrong pronunciation they come up with. I've known folks with hard to pronounce names that tell people to call them whatever they want and tolerate a myriad of butchered pronunciations.
That's the good scenario. If he's an anal kind of personality, on the other hand, he might just drive himself crazy correcting a mispronounciation that is so subtle that some people may not even hear the difference. Leading to conversations like this one:
"Mac-sen?"
"It's Max-in"
"That's what I said, Mac-sen."
"No, not Mac-sen, Max-in."
(Pause) "Who's on first?"

and that could lead to people thinking he is crazy or at least very tightly wound.

Lol... Actually, I do pronounce it closer to Mac-sen. I wrote Max-in, with the thought that it is recognizable this way. However, I SHOULD have written it "mak-sin" as this is definitely how it's pronounced. My family is very Welsh, and it was my great-grandfather's middle name. He will likely be called Max by most people, including DH and I.

I genuinely don't mind hearing opinions/feedback - it is just a little off-putting when it becomes less of an opinion, and more of an incorrect "fact" based statement. But thank you every body for taking the time to respond either way!

While we were likely to go with Mila or Rowan, we finally got a good gender shot today - he's a boy!

Rudetomata · April 2015

Congratulations! I totally get what you are saying about fact versus opinion. I'll go on record right now as personally knowing virtually no facts about names but having plenty of opinions

I actually like the name, especially since it has meaning to you, and I love the nn Max.

Kate0034 · April 2015

Congrats! Macsen is NMS, and if you just pulled it from a google search I would find it odd, but in your case I appreciate the heritage behind it. Yes it will be a pain to spell for people his whole life, but I think people on this board overestimate how troublesome that is. I know plenty of people with unusual/ethnic names that are constantly being misspelled, and it honestly doesn't ruin their lives. They enjoy having a different and meaningful name.

For future reference.. I would have voted Mila on the girl

loooove Mila Abigail. Rowen is great but it's all boy to me.

mommaKCS · April 2015

Kate0034 said:
Congrats! Macsen is NMS, and if you just pulled it from a google search I would find it odd, but in your case I appreciate the heritage behind it. Yes it will be a pain to spell for people his whole life, but I think people on this board overestimate how troublesome that is. I know plenty of people with unusual/ethnic names that are constantly being misspelled, and it honestly doesn't ruin their lives. They enjoy having a different and meaningful name.

For future reference.. I would have voted Mila on the girl loooove Mila Abigail. Rowen is great but it's all boy to me.

I agree with over estimating the hassle. My name is Kerri, and although the name Carrie itself is well known, there are several spelling variations, and mine happens to be one of the least used.

I have to spell it out on a daily basis, along with my surname, and it's never bothered me or caused me undue hardship! The only time I'm bothered by a misspelling is when a close friend or family member gets it wrong... Because, well, come on lol.

I like the idea that he can always use the very well known nn Max as well... Although there's a whole other confusion with that , which I am posting another thread for.

Thank you all again! We are very excited to be having a little boy!!

bigbobdole · April 2015

Personally, I like Jack better as a first name. Part of me likes Jack Macsen, but part of me feels like it's too much ACK sound.

jessnjuan07 · April 2015

I would rethink the boy name for the aforementioned reason. I adore Aurelia and voted for it but, to pair with Abigail (which I also adore), I would go with Mila.

Mila Abigail is precious! Blessings

jessheritage · April 2015

please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.

wassuphoes · April 2015

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.

You don't know how forums work, do you?

Jessie42613 · April 2015

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.

Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.

4N6s · April 2015

Jack is great...

g8trkim · April 2015

I voted for Mila. It's becoming a little popular but it's beautiful and goes well with your boys. I'm assuming you are pronouncing it mee-luh. I have a student with this name and she gets annoyed because people often call her my-luh. Something you may want to be aware of. I want to like Ever but it's more of a word to me than a name. I don't like the others.

I too really, really dislike Macsen. Using a family name is fantastic but this one just isn't good. It looks like a made up version of more common names... Max, Maddox, Maksim, Mac, etc. Not to mention it stands out, not in a good way, from your other kids. If it was so important to you, why didn't you use it with them? Plus Macsen Jack is not a nice sounding combo. Just some things to consider. I would suggest using it in the MN spot.

jader124 · April 2015

I happen to really like the name macsen

mommabird77 · April 2015

Macsen is a Welsh form of Maximus, which is NMS, but it is a real name, and definitely not made up.

Out of your three girl names, Mila is the only one I even remotely like.

VesperLove · April 2015

I'm going to chime in simply as a person who has dealt with the mispronunciation and misspelling my entire life. I'll preface by saying that I actually do like the name Macsen and think you should do whatever you want when it comes to naming your children. But, as someone who has a continually (okay, ALWAYS) misspelled and mispronounced name, I very often wish my parents had gone a little less different. Again, do what you want, but that burden/frustration that people say is over-dramatized on this board, in my opinion, is most definitely not.

Every time someone asks me my name, I cringe inside. I literally have to build myself up for the conversation that will follow. If they're asking my first name, I'll tell them. "I'm Kylene." ... most frequent response? "Oh, Kiley, nice to meet you." "No, it's KyleNE" (putting emphasis on the N). "Oh, I'm so sorry. Kyleena." At that point I either give up and just roll with it or try one more time and likely they still don't get it.

When I go to restaurants, I always give my DH's name when asked for a name for the reservation because I know it will be misspelled, mispronounced, or stumbled over and I just don't want to deal with it.

In school, my teachers would call all the students by their first names on roll call. They would get to my name and very obviously stumble, look stumped, and then say "Ms. (insert last name), are you here?" Not even wanting to TRY saying my name. Every grade for at least the first week. Some teachers didn't learn my actual name for over a month because they were too embarrassed to admit they didn't know how to say it.

Anytime anyone needs to take down my name I have to repeat myself and then spell it for them. It's my natural and immediate response. "My name is Kylene ... K-Y-L-E-N-E."

It's a hassle and a frustration on a daily basis. Do I love my name? Yes. But, will I do everything in my power to convince DH to choose a name that isn't so difficult to pronounce/spell for our children? Absolutely.

mommaKCS · April 2015

g8trkim said:
I voted for Mila. It's becoming a little popular but it's beautiful and goes well with your boys. I'm assuming you are pronouncing it mee-luh. I have a student with this name and she gets annoyed because people often call her my-luh. Something you may want to be aware of. I want to like Ever but it's more of a word to me than a name. I don't like the others.

I too really, really dislike Macsen. Using a family name is fantastic but this one just isn't good. It looks like a made up version of more common names... Max, Maddox, Maksim, Mac, etc. Not to mention it stands out, not in a good way, from your other kids. If it was so important to you, why didn't you use it with them? Plus Macsen Jack is not a nice sounding combo. Just some things to consider. I would suggest using it in the MN spot.

I don't have any other children. I delivered a still born baby girl, so clearly that wasn't going to be her name! Those are my stepsons, as noted. I had nothing to do with naming them, obviously.

It doesn't matter if it "looks" made up. It's not. It's the Welsh form of Maximus, and has a well established history.

I agree that the flow isn't great, but I don't mind it since they're both very meaningful. Not to mention the fact that NOBODY will ever use it outside of my husband and myself. Very few people in his life will even know his middle name. It does flow well with our surname!

I cannot use Jack as a first name, as it was my father in law's name - he passed suddenly four years ago. While it's important to me that he be honored, I cannot make my MIL use her beloved husband's name on a regular basis in this way. That is far too painful for her.

Thank you all for your responses. I understand that Macsen may not be your style, and don't mind opinions in either direction, I will repeat again that the history of the name, along with familial connection, makes it pretty awesome.

And to the PP who spoke of her spelling hassle... Thank you! I understand your experience, but find that it has never bothered me personally - I also have to spell out my name on a daily basis, usually many times. If he finds it to be a burden, he could always stick with the simple nickname Max for informal occasions anyway!

mommaKCS · April 2015

Jessie42613 said:

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.
Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.

I would bet very good money that my Max will be far happier with his name than any of Dashiells, Georges and Jadens of his generation.

They're little boys, who will grow into guys, who will grow into men. The only time they have an issue with their own name is when they're soft or too easy to tease. Other than that, 90% couldn't care less.

bbiutmcph · April 2015

mommaKCS said:

Jessie42613 said:

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.
Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.
I would bet very good money that my Max will be far happier with his name than any of Dashiells, Georges and Jadens of his generation.

They're little boys, who will grow into guys, who will grow into men. The only time they have an issue with their own name is when they're soft or too easy to tease. Other than that, 90% couldn't care less.

Being too soft or too easy to tease? Really? That comment makes you sound like an asshole or one of the over aggressive parents at little league.

wassuphoes · April 2015

bbiutmcph said:

mommaKCS said:

Jessie42613 said:

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.
Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.
I would bet very good money that my Max will be far happier with his name than any of Dashiells, Georges and Jadens of his generation.

They're little boys, who will grow into guys, who will grow into men. The only time they have an issue with their own name is when they're soft or too easy to tease. Other than that, 90% couldn't care less.

Being too soft or too easy to tease? Really? That comment makes you sound like an asshole or one of the over aggressive parents at little league.

I have to agree that is a pretty messed up comment.

It's 2015. Men have feelings too, at least when their parents don't emotionally stunt them cause their stuck in 1950s gender roles.

mommaKCS · April 2015

wassuphoes said:

bbiutmcph said:

mommaKCS said:

Jessie42613 said:

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.
Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.
I would bet very good money that my Max will be far happier with his name than any of Dashiells, Georges and Jadens of his generation.

They're little boys, who will grow into guys, who will grow into men. The only time they have an issue with their own name is when they're soft or too easy to tease. Other than that, 90% couldn't care less.

Being too soft or too easy to tease? Really? That comment makes you sound like an asshole or one of the over aggressive parents at little league.

I have to agree that is a pretty messed up comment.

It's 2015. Men have feelings too, at least when their parents don't emotionally stunt them cause their stuck in 1950s gender roles.

Oh no....... I hurt feelings! Too bad, it's the truth and you all know it. I have zero qualms, since there is a difference between hateful speech and truth. Just talk with boys/men .... I didn't pull it out of my ass. I don't agree with the idea that names can be feminine or weak - or that anyone should be teased for any reason. I have a transgendered sister, and understand what she's gone through. Regardless of my personal feelings, that's the way life is - still in 2015. Saying it is not is more fucked up than admitting and recognizing that it is. Rug sweeping does nothing!

Also, did I say men don't have feelings? No. I said men don't care about their names. There is very vast difference between those two statements.

wassuphoes · April 2015

mommaKCS said:

wassuphoes said:

bbiutmcph said:

mommaKCS said:

Jessie42613 said:

jessheritage said:
please remember that this is not your child and she can name her child what she likes. if you don't like it, then don't comment on it.
Yeah and that's all well and good, but it's the child who has to live with that name for the rest of his life.
I would bet very good money that my Max will be far happier with his name than any of Dashiells, Georges and Jadens of his generation.

They're little boys, who will grow into guys, who will grow into men. The only time they have an issue with their own name is when they're soft or too easy to tease. Other than that, 90% couldn't care less.

Being too soft or too easy to tease? Really? That comment makes you sound like an asshole or one of the over aggressive parents at little league.

I have to agree that is a pretty messed up comment.

It's 2015. Men have feelings too, at least when their parents don't emotionally stunt them cause their stuck in 1950s gender roles.
Oh no....... I hurt feelings! Too bad, it's the truth and you all know it. I have zero qualms, since there is a difference between hateful speech and truth. Just talk with boys/men .... I didn't pull it out of my ass. I don't agree with the idea that names can be feminine or weak - or that anyone should be teased for any reason. I have a transgendered sister, and understand what she's gone through. Regardless of my personal feelings, that's the way life is - still in 2015. Saying it is not is more fucked up than admitting and recognizing that it is. Rug sweeping does nothing!

Also, did I say men don't have feelings? No. I said men don't care about their names. There is very vast difference between those two statements.

You said the only time men have issues with their name is if THEY are too "soft" or "easy to tease"

So. Congrats on talking to every man alive and finding out how he feels about his name and whether or not he's too "soft" or "easy to tease" by some universal manliness measure. Oh wait, you didn't do that, you're just generalizing of anecdotal evidence. Which is generally called pulling it out of your ass.

neverblushed · April 2015

Macsen is a legit Welsh name for a boy, so you're safe there. However, much of this name's coolness is stripped away by putting it with Jack. The sounds are so similar that the two together become sing-songy.

I'd rank the girl names as follows:

Mila

Rowan

Aurelia

Finley

Ever -- honestly, I wouldn't use this one at all. It's not a name; it's an adverb.

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