My hubby and I met at the dog park, so our two pooches are very much our children. We know one of our dogs typically doesn't like children (kids are unpredictable, grab at you, run towards you, etc....I can understand), and the other one is probably okay, but who knows. I had someone suggest that we practice carrying something around in our arms to get them used to the visual, but do any of you have any suggestions or resources to help make the introduction of a wee human to our furbabies any easier and safer for all parties? We certainly won't leave our boy unattended with the dogs, and I am not anticipating that they will curl up together like you see on FB, but I just want us to all live in harmony. I'd love any suggestions any of you can give!!
Also, sadly, they are spoiled and sleep in the bed with us. I intend to use a co-sleeper, so for that reason (and many others), we want to train them to not sleep on the bed. Nothing we have tried has been successful. One starts out on a chaise we have in our bedroom, which is great, but then around 2/3am, he appears on our bed and right between my husband and my head. The other dog stays at the foot of the bed and is generally easy to deal with, but still...he's on the bed. I love snuggling with them, but we need to get them used to not getting up there. Any suggestions?
Re: introducing dog children to the human child?
Start setting boundaries. So set up the baby gear and teach them now that it is off limits. Run the swing with a doll, so they get used to that. But the most important thing is what you said: do not leave them unsupervised.
My dogs have been raised with my sisters babies and I taught them anything with baby scent is not theirs. We are starting to leave out baby toys and blankets, making sure they respect that space. Seems like a lot of work, but it helps. I know my dogs will give the baby room when it arrives. But still won't leave them alone together.
When baby comes home, have your husband carry him in and you say hi to the pups. Then make sure from the start that they keep a bit of distance. They can smell but no touching.
As for the bed.... if getting them to sleep in the room off the bed isn't working, you may need to have them sleep in the living room or another area. Unless you are willing to have a few weeks of sleepless nights, where you get up and make them get off any time they jump up, moving them is the best bet.
We did the bringing an article of clothing/blanket home so the dogs can get the scent of the baby. I honestly don't know if it helped. We mostly just set strict boundaries and the dogs ended up staying on separate ends of the house with baby gates.
I'm not into cosleeping so we didn't have that issue but you probably need to start now. Either use a doll to try various commands to make sure you they stay away. Maybe even play crying baby sounds just to get them use to that. We set up the nursery early so at least they got use to the room and arrangement of furniture. But our dogs are crazy if you move anything out of the ordinary so it was just getting them use to things.
I would second he professional trainer though, especially for your pup that's already unsure. I know it can be pricey, but that's something we plan on budgeting for since it's so important for everyone's safety (including your pups).
We have started putting Pancake and my pit behind the baby gate at night. My golden sleeps upstairs on the floor in our room, but I've now laid down an official bed for her. That is her territory and the bed is ours. She's docile anyways, so not much to worry about. We are really trying to reclaim, I guess, the house before the baby gets here. No dogs on any furniture, period. All three of my dogs have the habit of being real pushy about getting us to pet them. They'll actually push their heads under our hands. It's freaking adorable, but we're trying to stop that behavior. I don't let any of them lay in front of me in a guarding way while I'm on the couch anymore. I think as long as you can teach them that in your house, humans come first, you'll be better off. It is extremely difficult to not baby them, but I know they need to respect me more before there's a baby. These three dogs have ruled our house for too long lol.
I think dogs can be unpredictable around kids sometimes. I think you just need to be confident and assertive and demand respect from them. With respect comes the boundaries that you'll need! My dogs are always around new people, so I don't know that the whole sniffing something that belongs to the baby will help. It's just a new scent, nothing new.
When we brought out LO home we used baby blankets at first to identify smells and then let them sniff the baby only for the first few days. We set the boundaries and showed them that he was a part of the pack now. It was a very smooth transition. We also used a bassinet instead of co sleeping. It was safer and we all ended up getting more rest. Good luck!
Interestingly enough, my pooch actually started out as my nephew dog. When my sister had my niece, my furchild Oliver nipped at her a few times when she was learning to crawl, so sister and BIL wanted to get rid of him. (To be fair, they didn't give him much attention to begin with, so this was probably a wise choice). I loved him to pieces, so my DH (BF at the time) and I took him in. We plan on making this a much smoother transition than my sister and BIL did, and we'll be happy to take the time to give our boy the training and attention he needs during this really intense change in our lives. I couldn't imagine even re-homing our dog, let alone putting him down. So nips, growls, bites, etc will NOT be an option.
This is all EXTREMELY helpful. I really appreciate it. The crate idea might just be the winner. There's no way they'd be okay with being out back (plus we have coyotes behind our house, so that'd be a brawl waiting to happen), but maybe we'll try the crate thing and if that doesn't work turn to a trainer. There's one where we board our dogs who has a great rapport with our Chow mix (basically the only person besides me and my husband who is "allowed" to touch him), so we might see if she does house calls.
Thanks again, and I'll let y'all know how it goes!
Our vet cautioned that if I'm currently the dogs' primary caregiver (I am), then it would be good for my husband to start being the primary one to feed them and let them out, etc, before the baby comes home. He said it's likely that my availability for the dogs will change after the baby's born, and they should learn to look to my husband for their needs as well.
He also recommended allowing the dogs to have some contact with the baby, such as sniffing or licking her feet (obviously highly supervised and only if the dog is calm). He said they'll be naturally curious, and you want them to accept the new pack member and not feel anxious or resentful when baby comes home. He reminded me that dogs are very sensitive to our moods, and if I act anxious about the dog being around the baby, the dog's likely to become more anxious as well.
He also recommended a distraction, such as rawhide (which our dog loves), as a way to keep the dog busy but still in the same room with baby and me, which can begin to build positive feelings about baby's presence.
Ultimately, I think we'll be utilizing a lot of closed doors for safe separation of dogs and baby until things normalize. Thankfully our dogs are already used to this, we close them in the master bedroom whenever we leave the house or if my husband is on a conference call (he works from home), and they're great about being calm in our bedroom for several hours at a time, if need be. I think I'll also use the pack and play as a barrier, if I can be in the same room to supervise but want to set the baby down somewhere (like if I'm cooking in the kitchen); it's tall enough that they could see and smell each other through the mesh but not really interact. For instance, instead of setting baby's activity gym or rock and play on the floor, I can set it inside the pack and play, and then put the baby down there.
I think one of the most helpful things for me over the past few months has been learning the signals dogs use when they're starting to feel uncomfortable, such as licking their lips, and watching for the whites of their eyes or for their ears to be pressed back. All of the resources I've found about dogs and babies/toddlers have said that a dog who bites "out of nowhere" almost never happens -- the dog gives signals that he's uncomfortable and we don't read them correctly or quickly enough, so the dog's behavior escalates. Of course it's so important to teach the child proper behavior and boundaries around dogs, too, in the same way you teach dogs boundaries around children.
I'm still a little nervous about how our 3 yr old lab mix will react to baby, because she's so attached to me and also fairly energetic. I'm thankful that babies don't start out mobile and hoping that those first few months will help our pup get used to baby being around before she starts crawling! Bottom line, though, because I love our dogs and don't want to risk something happening to them -- I will never leave the baby unsupervised with the dogs around, so they'll never have a chance to act inappropriately before we intervene.
Oh, one more resource: I really like Zak George's training videos, and he released this one about dogs and babies recently --
I had dogs stop sleeping on my bed because...I don't like having dogs sleep on bed...never did. But my hubby he loves it. Sure, agruments was there and there because I am pregnant and very easy morning sickness, etc.
Finally, we got brand new couch!
Scat Mats are the kind you should use to train dogs off the couch, bed, areas you don't want dogs to pass thru. Order it from Amazon; not any pet supplies stores...expensive!
I had told my husband...ALL dogs are going to be staying in back room for couple days, one dog at a time to get along with the baby.
I wouldn't want to have a fake doll because my husband is very playful with the dogs so they might get wrong impression lol...I have constantly told him DO NOT LET THEM JUMP, ARM HOLD, NIPPING AT HANDS etc....ughhhh... they actually don't do that to me I use dressage whip and I would smack them if they try eventually they lay off. my pup honeymoon she is amazing puppy loves kids. Bull loves kids but we rescued him. So sometimes he would overdo licking kids face...which makes me super super super nervous! Cuz the previous owners hsd him...did not do much training with him and they also had kids. I only know that they didn't want him cuz he was hyper....well....he had leg surgery at 6 months old and crate for two months...YEAH...hyper because he was locked up all the time! Transition training is required for sure. Then Harleys old fart dog...he is fine love kids but I told my dh I don't want him being loose in living room when baby is on the floor...since he is going blind he gets grumpy easily if other dogs walks into his bed or touch his toys, and possible bite or run him over by accident.
Anyways one things we didn't do was train her to get off the couch. When the baby started crawling it was the only safe place for her! She would perch on the back of the couch if she needed her space and the baby couldn't get to her! Just a suggestion
We're debating having our big dogs sleep in our room after the baby is born. I'm worried they may try to jump on the bassinet when the baby cries.
DS2: BFP 02/09/13 | EDD 10/26/13 | said goodbye 06/02/13
DS2: BFP 02/09/13 | EDD 10/26/13 | said goodbye 06/02/13
Even if you live in an area that does not have heartworms, treating monthly with these products is really easy and fairly cheap when you consider the yearly cost ($50-150 a year depending on the size of your dog). Then you know that no matter what, your dogs are worm free all the time.
IMPORTANT- do not start a heartworm preventative without first doing a heartworm test and getting a negative result. Dogs who are positive for heartworms and are started on a preventative without first receiving can become very sick and/or die.
If anybody in this thread would like more info about deworming using these products or heartworms, you can ask me. I used to do client education on this subject multiple times a day, every day.
(Also, those of us with cats in real bad heartworm areas, the deep south, for example, should consider using a preventative too. Even if your cats are indoors only)
Thank you for listening to this Public Service Announcement
https://stopthe77.com - several good videos here
https://www.doggonesafe.com/Signs_of_Anxiety - lots of helpful info under the "learn to speak dog" section