May 2015 Moms

Need Some Good Vibes/Prayers + a WWYD. (Warning: Very Long Post)

Starting with my "shallow" question for the TL;DR crowd:

WWYD: Your due date is mid-May and you have set your baby moon getaway for a location 4 hours away (drive worthy) in the middle of the week the first week of February. Due to an unexpected circumstance you can no longer travel in the middle of the week until mid-March. The most you can now do is a half day Thursday and Friday-Monday, which is more expensive due to weekend hotel rates. So would you push the trip back to mid-March, 2 months shy of your due date, so you can be gone during the week or would you keep the trip around the same time period, but just pay more for the weekend? 

For the longer back story and why I just need some good vibes, prayers, "this is the right thing to do suck it up" from my favorite snatches...

Most of you know that I have Bi Polar 2 and went off my meds when DH and I started trying to conceive. I honestly was doing pretty good up until a couple of months ago so my OB urged me to seek treatment. I finally reached out to a group that works specifically with new and expecting moms that have mood disorders. Last week I was evaluated if I was a candidate for their program and I guess I was someone they wanted to get in the program ASAP. After getting information from my insurance (so I would know the cost to me, not if they would take me) they urged me to start today (literally the soonest I could get in).

As everything hit me from today's first one-on-one therapy session and the group therapy and the final sign-up process, I left the building fighting tears. Because this is an IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program) both my insurance and the group are extremely strict about attendance and commitment to the program. Thus, my above question about the baby moon timing- I'm no longer allowed to leave for a week to go on vacation. I have to attend a minium of 3 out of the 4 days of the program. Insurance may drop my coverage (I was blown away to find out that this treatment is going to be 100% covered, I don't know if it's because I'm THAT bad or because my insurance is great) if I leave for a week because I'm apparently "well enough to go on vacation" and it's a liability for the group to have me leave because, unless they discharge me, they consider me a risk right now actually. So that was a huge bummer because my husband and I have not been able to travel, which we love, in over a year and with the baby it's going to be a while before we can do a big trip again. We were both looking forward to this and I have to go fuck it up by being "sick".

I'm also now freaking out about medication. They aren't going to force it on me, but already it sounds like they want me to seriously consider it. Especially if any of my symptoms get worse. They want to help me with therapy first, but as my pregnancy progresses it may be something I'll actually need. The doctor was also really honest that after the birth I'm at a high risk for post partum and medication may be my only option. That will probably rule out breastfeeding. And for some reason that just crushed me as well. I'm not against anyone formula feeding but the idea that I can't breastfeed my child because I'm selfishly on medication for myself just already racks me with guilt.

The group seems okay, I was emotionally exhausted by the time I got to join with the rest of the women. It's small which means more attention will be dropped on to me than I'd like. As I'm hearing some of the women I talk I realized that they don't put just any "sad mom" into this group and it almost made me feel embarassed. Like, these women actually need this and I'm just going to be taking up time. I don't even have a kid yet! It'll be a rotating group so other pregnant moms will come in, I'm sure, but right now I just feel like I don't need it as badly as these women do.

This is a 6-8 week program (which means I may be a lot less active on here over that time period). They'll discharge me at their discretion with resources for after care therapy as well as the option to return after my pregnancy if I'm relapsing or suffering from post-partum severe enough that even the therapeutic tools they gave me. I'm kind of glad I don't have to go back until Tuesday (it's a M-Th program and they're closed for MLK Day) because today was so overwhelming. I almost feel like I don't want to do it- but I don't know if every day will be like this and is my baby moon timing, despite how much my husband and I really need this escape from the real word to just be together, more important than my mental health?

I'm sorry, this ended up being so much longer than I intended, more of a Dear Diary. If you read the whole thing, congrats and thanks to you! I just need good vibes and prayers right now: that I'm making the right decision sticking with this, that I can convince my husband he should attend the once a week, one hour meeting for other dads who have wives are in similar boats to me and the other moms, that I'm not always leaving so overwhelmed and upset, that this therapy works and I can avoid meds but if I need them it's the right thing, just for everything.
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Re: Need Some Good Vibes/Prayers + a WWYD. (Warning: Very Long Post)

  • Well first of all- I am sorry you are going through this.

    Secondly, if your doctors and therapists feel that this is the best course of treatment for you i would forego the baby moon and focus on your health. I saw you said you don't feel like you really need this course of treatment but it seems like the doctors really are encouraging this for you- so maybe it's for the best.

    It's always scary starting something new especially when it comes to mental health. But I truly believe your mental health can have a lot to do with your physical health too.

    I think you should continue to go and see how it pans out. I know it's a bummer about the baby moon :(

    Good luck!
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  • Sorry you are having to deal with this while you are pregnant, I will be praying for you that you make the best decision for you. Also, being sick is not your fault or something you should ever be ashamed of. Be proud of yourself and the person you have become!
  • Think of how much better your trip will be when you are mentally in a better place. I admire you for seeking the help before it was a problem. Good vibes for you! 
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  • It's probably better to push your trip back to March.

    I know others have already said this, but I want to reinforce that taking care of yourself is the best thing you can do for your baby! If that means taking medication that prevents you from breastfeeding, so be it.

    It's wonderful that you've found this resource and hopefully your husband will at least give the dad's group a try. >:D<
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  • I don't have any advice but I will be thinking of you. It seems like it was quite the achievement to join that group. Best of luck to you!
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  • I think it's great and so incredibly smart that you are taking control of your life now. This will be a good thing, a learning process. These people have dedicated their lives to helping others get through rough times and now you get the opportunity to grow and learn from their wisdom and knowledge. Not everyone is so lucky. Some have to suffer in silence. You are absolutely doing the right thing and as scary as it may seem, this too shall pass.

    Good luck with everything, soak it all in and don't be afraid to let everything inside of you out during this time. Take care of yourself emotionally and don't get too stressed. You're in a good place it sounds like.
  • Think of how much better your trip will be when you are mentally in a better place. I admire you for seeking the help before it was a problem. Good vibes for you! 


    exactly this! major kudos to you. put yourself before all else. Prayers for you! 
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  • Like previous posters have said, please don't blame yourself or feel guilty! I don't have much advice but you will be in my thoughts and I hope you have a very relaxing trip whether it be in Feb or in March.
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  • I'm so sorry that you're going through this! I don't have any additional advice to add, but I wanted to let you know that you're in my thoughts and I hope that everything goes well with your treatment plan and your vacation. I agree with bumping it to March, as well.

    Big hugs to you!

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  • I would definitely post-pone your trip or even do a weekend getaway (yes, it costs more but it might be nice to have it sooner than later).

    I'm happy for you that you were able to get into this program so quickly since from what you've said previously you were ready to get back to feeling like your old self.

    You need to do what you need to do to get yourself 100% healthy and I respect you so much for going through this and already making sacrifices. I hope your DH can make the weekly meetings because it will be important for him to be on the same page.

    As far as possibly not being able to breastfeed, that would devastate me as well. But the reason why you wouldn't be able to is so important that the pros outweigh the cons.

    Big big hugs to you! You WILL get through this! >:D<

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  • T&P going your way. I am so sorry you are dealing with all this but it sounds as though you have an amazing support system to help you along on this path. I also think you should postpone your trip. I like the way a PP stated that you should think of it as a babymoon and celebratory trip once your treatment is completed. Your husband going to the other meetings could be a great way for him to support you and for you two to come together as couple and a solid unit. My only other piece of advice is to get the word "selfish" out of your vocabulary when it comes to your treatment/medical needs. You are doing everything that is the opposite of selfish when you care for yourself mentally and physically for the birth of your child. A healthy you=a happy cared for baby. Good luck with everything, hugs!
  • I don't have much advice, except maybe check out Dr Jack Newman (he has a FB page too). He is a breastfeeding guru and helps a lot of woman determine what drugs are safe during breastfeeding. Seems as though many Drs may be a bit over precautious about most drugs. Just something to consider a little closer to May if you do decide medication is the way to go. You may be pleasantly surprised.

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  • I'm sorry you're dealing with all of this.  I agree with PPs - Postpone your trip and take care of yourself! I love what @Rivers714 pointed out, that prevention is such an important and overlooked step, so even if you feel like you don't need this "as much" as others, it will most likely be very beneficial.  I hope things improve for you, thanks for sharing with us all. ((Hugs))
  • I agree with PPs whole heartedly. It also seems like you are putting other people before yourself. Your reasons for potentially not attending don't seem to have anything to do with yourself or your needs. You don't want to put off the trip with DH; the ladies with children already need it more...
    I believe that you know deep down what you need. Like PPs have said, your health is the most important thing right now.
    Please take care of yourself.
    You're in my thoughts *insert hug emoticon here*
    Please keep us posted if you're comfortable with sharing :)

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  • I don't have any advice. The PPs have already covered what I would say. T&P to you during this time. I know it's not easy but hang in there!! You are doing what's best for you and your LO!
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    I'm sorry you're dealing with this. PP's have said everything that I would have so I won't start repeating. But I have to say I think you're doing an amazing thing by being proactive now and not waiting until things (possibly) get worse. Your little one is already so lucky to have you as a mother. Good luck, I'll be thinking of you!

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  • Thinking of you. Postponing your trip is ok. And you'll be able to enjoy yourselves THAT much more. Wishing you the best.
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  • I don't have any advice but want to say I admire your guts and strength to be proactive. It takes a lot to make these hard choices and I'm proud of your willingness to put your health and baby first.
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  • Postpone your trip, take your meds per doctor's orders (guilt-free), and enjoy yourself! And big hugs to you....you are a great person from what I've experienced with you so far, and know you can handle just about anything that comes your way.  :)
  • @samiamagirl, - Lord I lift our friend and fellow mom up to you as she seeks guidance and wisdom with her health issues, I just ask you to give her a sense of peace about postponing her trip to take care of herself, her baby and her husband through this awesome opportunity she has to have her insurance cover every penny of it, I just ask Lord that you will bless her with the funds for her March baby moon so she can have an opportunity to relax and enjoy it after her treatment, In Jesus name ~ Amen
    God Bless you :)
  • I just want to say you are doing a wonderful thing by taking care of your child's mother. Good for you!
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  • Complete the program and then go on vacation later, you will be fine and be in a much better place to enjoy your vacation once you are mentally prepared. Best of luck, don't blame yourself. You will find once you have your baby that you are no good to your child if you are not taking care of yourself first. That means mentally, physically and emotionally.
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  • Lots of great advice on here for you. You are a beloved member for sure. The one main thing I want to emphasize is that you too are worthy and in need of IOP support right now. It can be hard to feel worthy of something when you haven't been through it before, as a FTM - I'm willing to bet all of the women you feel are more in need and deserving of this would tell you to stay and that they either received the same support themselves or wished they had. Early intervention is always best instead of getting help when you are already in a dark place. IOP's can be incredibly life changing as spoken to in above comments. Put off your plans for a bit, 6-8 weeks will be over before you know it and you, your LO, and DH will all be better off. Best of luck and please keep us updated!
  • I just wanted to reiterate that you are absolutely NOT selfish for taking medication, and there is nothing more important right now than your mental health.  Going through this program sounds like the best thing you can possibly do for yourself, husband and kiddo, and I'm so glad you found it (and definitely that your insurance is awesome and covering it. :))  Good luck with everything!!  
  • I didn't read the other responses because I'm running out of time, but I have a few thoughts.
    1. Therapy can be exhausting. Crying afterwards is a normal, and good, sign.
    2. The best thing for baby is that you have a clear head and be a good mommy. If that means hard therapy for a bit, or medication, then you are a wonderful mommy for doing that.
    4. Formula is an amazing way to feed your baby so you can take medication. I'm grateful there is an alternative to BF.
    5. Daddy needs to be there to do whatever he can to support you. He absolutley should go.
    6. This is a wonderful opportunity for you, and oftentimes, those can be scary! But you are strong and can do this!
    7. Have a wonderful vacation, whenever you decide to go. Relax and enjoy time with your DH.

    {big hug}

    ^THIS EXACTLY!!
    Try to not beat yourself up about this-you did not do anything to cause this "sickness". You are taking the steps to do what's best for you and your baby. You are being a wonderful mommy already!! You should be very proud of yourself for being so proactive.

    And I did a baby moon 2 months before my due date (a 4hr drive away) and still had a wonderful time with DH. Make sure you go whenever you can and enjoy each other's company.

    Sending tons of creepy internet hugs your way >:D<
  • I echo so much of what previous posters have said! I don't have much new to add, but I wanted to offer an additional supporting voice. Sometimes it helps to hear the same thing more than once, too!

    You are not fucking anything up by being sick. You are not selfish if you end up being on medication, either in or post pregnancy. You should not feel guilty or like you are "just going to be taking up time" -- I know what that's like, I've been in therapy where I just felt like I was a waste of space and time and had no business being there -- but if you were evaluated and put into the program then you do absolutely 100% deserve to be there. I'm sorry about the emotional exhaustion, although as a PP said sometimes that means it's working! Starting a new program can also be super overwhelming, too, so may very well get easier for you going forward. As far as the babymoon, I would absolutely postpone until March and not feel badly about that... I mean hey, you can still go! As someone who suffers from anxiety and feels guilty for, well, a great many things, I can understand some of the feelings you are having, but I urge you to listen to the wonderful advice in all of these replies. It is so great that you got into this program and that you are taking preventive measures to get that support and address the problem NOW, instead of waiting until things really get out of control. That is the best thing you can do both for yourself, and your baby. Also please remember that taking care of your own needs is just as important to your baby as anything else! I will keep you in my prayers, and hope for nothing but the best for you in this situation.  >:D<
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  • I'm proud of you for seeking help when you felt you needed it and please try not to feel like you don't need it or are taking up space in the group, try to look at it as: I've the got the opportunity right now, to choose a different path sooner than the women before me, and therefore, I may have better choices, better actions and better results than they did. You can do this!

    For the trip, IMO, I would have no problem postponing my trip if it interferes with my physical, mental, or emotional well being.

    Best wishes!
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  • First of all you should NOT at all feel guilty about utilizing resources that are available to you. Bipolar is no joke and it is so great that you are seeking treatment. And PPD is serious business- I had to bad bad bad after DS1 and sought treatment in the form of meds and therapy.

    About your babymoon- Can you leave right after your group on a Wednesday and miss Thursday? Then you can be away Wed night, Thurs, Fri, Sat, Sun and be back for group Monday? It might mean paying extra for the weekend but will give you more time away.
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  • Just from reading your post I feel you have a strong spirit and will fight your way through this. I suggest either postponing the trip or going on a weekend as it seems very important for you and hubby. And definitely embrace your treatment wholeheartedly. Do not feel guilty for any decisions you have to make to stay healthy. Your health is very important for you, your DH, and of course your precious LO.
  • I don't have any advice but just want to say you are so strong for going through all of this!!! Along with pregnancy. You are making the best choice for yourself and your future family. I really wish you the best and will be thinking of you!
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  • Please get treatment and postpone the trip. Thoughts are with you :)
  • PP have already provided such great advice and encouragement, but I do have this to give >:D<

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  • Your strength shines through your words, as many others have already given amazing advice, I will not be repetative . Instead, I hope you are truly proud of yourself for recognizing the importance of your mental health and reaching out.......many positive thoughts to you Hon!~~

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  • Everything is covered from the other ladies so all I want to do is creepy Internet hug you! ::hugs:: you're gonna get through this so much better and so much stronger. One day at a time hon.
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  • It's really badass that you are choosing treatment for yourself. That decision took a lot of courage. I'll be sending good vibes your way. Stay strong and always ask for help when you need it!
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