Full name for Hosie?

ashiscute · January 2015

I think it's one thing to pick Alexander because you love Alex. But it's quite another to force a full name for your child because of Hosie. The reaction on here is accurate I think. Once your child is old enough to understand she is very likely not going to want to go by Hosie. It is not attractive at all. It's cutesy without being cute.

Bottom line I would not settle for a full name because of a nickname I loved.

erinms · January 2015

Other name ideas:

Theodora (gift of God): Thea, Dorie, Dora

Millicent: Millie

Matilda: Tillie, Tilda

Susannah: Suzy

Beatrix: Trixie

Sylvie

Renisra+2 · January 2015

I would not think Hosanna would be a name to avoid only because of teasing potential. Just because a name starts with a "ho" sound, I wouldn't be bothered by that. Hosie, on the other hand, screams an obvious problem area. You seem to really want to use Hosanna, but you've already said your dh doesn't like it at all, so really it should be off the table. But, just to clarify from what I read here, I think most of the people are saying "Hosie" would get picked on, not necessarily Hosanna (which should be out anyway).

I think if you must go with Hosie, the best suggestion so far was Josefina. Though, I think a lot of the other nn's mentioned are much, much better than Hosie.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

Well, I appreciate the military nickname info bc I didn't know that, but so much of that comment was so rude. You could have said the exact same info without being ugly about it. And I didn't even see the Holly suggestion, sorry I missed it.

Dr.Loretta · January 2015

Ladybug7456 said:

Rather than avoiding every name and every detail of life that could possibly bring teasing upon my daughter, instead I plan to raise her to be higher than the teasing she will endure (no matter if her name is or is not tease-proof) and make sure the village who helps raise her does the same for their kids.

LOLOL! That's not how the world works.

Dr.Loretta · January 2015

I just can't get behind either name. Hosanna is a word used in church, not a name. Hosie is some odd NN that apparently the OP has heard ONE person use. I don't think it sounds very attractive to the ear, and I don't get the love.

If anything, I'd find a first name you love, and use that NN as something totally unrelated. My brother goes by a NN that's completely unrelated to his given name. So does my father. It works just fine. That way if your DD decides she hates the NN, she can always fall back on a regular first name.

Also I can't picture a 40yo woman named Hosie.

Dr.Loretta · January 2015

So I just looked it up on wikipedia. They said the original Hebrew form of Hosanna is Hoshana. Maybe you could go with that or Shoshana (even though this name has a different meaning) and use the Hosie NN.

I understand you wanting to use a name with meaning, I just think you're trying to shoe-horn this name into a place it shouldn't be.

conradraging · January 2015

Dr.Loretta said:
So I just looked it up on wikipedia. They said the original Hebrew form of Hosanna is Hoshana. Maybe you could go with that or Shoshana (even though this name has a different meaning) and use the Hosie NN.

I understand you wanting to use a name with meaning, I just think you're trying to shoe-horn this name into a place it shouldn't be.

This is a good suggestion, I could get behind Shoshana. Don't know why I'm saying anything since you don't seem to be considering anything but "Hosie".

XCrissCrossX · January 2015

OP, I agree that we shouldn't avoid names that are nice names just because our children may be made fun of in middle school. All names have the potential for mockery. That being said, I don't think Hosanna or Hosie fall into that category.
I've never heard Hosanna before but it's a horrid name. And Hosie sounds like a joke or something a toddler would come up with. Neither are attractive, cute, or endearing.

I like PPs suggestion of Hattie.

TheAerialist · January 2015

Ladybug7456 said:

Thank you very much for your reply @McSarah1104‌ . I don't like it because it is the name of someone I know, but I recently heard of it because I know someone distantly with that name, and I really like it because Hosanna means "redeem" and I think that is fitting since we just lost a daughter and this one will be our rainbow. And then I further love the nickname Hosie because it reminds me of the cuteness of Posie or Josie, without actually being that name since we have friends who have used those names. I also really like the suggestion of Hope/middle name and using Hosie that way. Thank you for your comment and info!

Thanks for the explanation. I still don't totally understand the attachment to Hosie, it sounds like you like Hosanna (I like it, but it sounds VERY Jewish to me) but that it was vetoed by your husband. If you like the meaning of Hosanna, I am sure you can find another name that means 'redeem' (although my investigation of Hosanna indicates it means 'saved', so not sure on that).

I think that everyone on here agrees that Hosie decidedly does not have the same cuteness of Josie or Posey, it feels more like an accidental nickname, the kind you get by mistake when someone slurs the name incorrectly. It's cute then, but seems odd to name your child that.

But I won't pile on. We all really hope you won't name your child something just to give them the nickname Hosie, but you have lots of options if you must!

daisyjo428 · January 2015

I like the suggestion of using an Ho- (or Jo-) first name with an S- middle. These names fit that criteria, but I imagine many others would, too:

Holly

Honor

Hope

Josefina

Serafina

Sierra

I'm very sorry for your loss; I understand the desire to use a name with a significant meaning.

What about names that have similar meanings to that of Hosanna and have good nickname potential?

Evangeline or Evangelina (meaning "good news") -- Eve, Evie, Lina, even Angie
Jane (meaning "God's gracious gift" of "Yahweh is gracious/merciful") -- nn Janie is adorable, while Jane is sophisticated and sleek
Theodora (meaning "gift of God") -- Dora, Dory even Thea

Good luck!

LuvLoveXo · January 2015

I have to be honest. I think it's horrible. It sounds made-up and it's just not pretty. I'm sure you'll find people asking you to repeat her name because they thought they heard you wrong. I'd go with Rosie or Sophie.

jburdet1 · January 2015

I'm not going to comment on Hosie, but I am very glad you plan to use it as a nn not a formal first name.

You did mention having friends/friends' children with the names Josie/Posey, but aren't you concerned with the rhyming confusion with using Hosie as well?

If you are dead set on Hosie; I vote PP's suggestion of Hope Josephine. She can go by Hosie to family and close friends and be Hope at school.

queenbone · January 2015

Ladybug7456 said:

Ugh: iPhone fail. Give me a minute to edit this nonsense please.. Update: done editing the garble, sorry about that. Because I'm not getting defensive about the criticism of her name, I'm calling out the act of casting out dozens of perfectly fine names due to childishness, which is all I'm getting on this board. Not true, helpful constructive criticism. I made it clear from beginning that I wasn't interested in middle school nonsense that comes up with a huge number names, Hosanna included, and no one could respect that. The worst name calling I heard in middle/high was a kid with the last name Horn; people called him Horny and Horndog. Yet there's nothing wrong the last name Horn. That's only point trying I'm trying to make. I haven't defended Hosie itself much this whole time, I've just been against the ridiculousness of so many names being thrown under bus without second glance because of that line of thinking. I truly thank everyone for non-"ho"/"hoser" comments, and for the posey and Josie suggestions which I do think are adorable but will not work for us due to friends with those names. I accept further criticism of Hosie, but I'm really done with the ho, etc talk. I've said my piece on it (too much).

Whatever, dude, I suggested a legitimate name, Josefina, with zero commentary on Hosie and you didn't even acknowledge my response. Clearly, all you want is us to blow smoke up your butt about Hosie. [-(

Steph1673 · January 2015

Hose. That's all I hear. I see zero appeal.

Plus, the best nicknames are those that occur naturally. Pick a full name you like and drop the hose.

Ace226 · January 2015

bromios said:

Ladybug7456 said:

Teasing a kid with "ho" because they have that syllable in their name is mean; naming your child Hosanna is not mean. It's ridiculous that people are more appalled that someone might choose a perfectly fine name like Hosie or Giselle or Virginia than they are that kids might call them with Ho or Jizz or Virgin one day. Hint: what's wrong with that scenario is not the names. I bet most of yall wouldn't dare blame a girl wearing a tight skirt to a club at night for getting raped, but you'll blame what parents name their kid (perfectly fine names!) for their child being victims of bullying.

Thanks for the suggestions but I can't use Posie or Josie due to others in my closer circle using those names.

Yes, it's an ugly nn, yes, it's going to be a major pain in the ass during middle school, but I find the bolded section above so utterly abhorrent as an analogy that I am much more disgusted with you than I am with the stupid nn with which you seem to be obsessed. But since, for some unfathomable reason, you decided to take it there, yes, I hold parents accountable for the impact that their decisions have on their children whereas I do not hold a woman accountable for being a victim of rape culture. And if you do decide to go through with this and your kid does end up getting teased and made miserable, I hope your fair share of that grief makes its way back around to you.

THANK YOU.

valeriemarie24 · January 2015

I just wanted to say, that teasing in school is not a 'potential', it happens at some point or another, whether it is upfront or behind someone's back. But giving a child a name/nickname that may open them up to even more ridicule is not worth it to me. You might not be interested in the 'middle school nonsense' or whatever it was you said earlier, but your child certainly will be when it happens.

Also, when thinking of names we should be basing a nickname around a full name, not trying to expand a nickname into a full name. Hosie is not a very nice nickname, and sorry to say to any PPs but I don't think posie is either. I do however like Rosie, and Josie, which could stem from Rosalie and Josephine, which are a bit nicer sounding names IMO.

If you like hosannah because of it's 'holiness' or biblical background, there are several others that may work a bit better, like Anne, or Mary or even Bernadette (I'm not a hugely religious person but these are some of the names of saints I can think of). Or if you do decide to go with hosannah, why not just call her Anna for short? I'm not trying to be rude in any way, this is just my reasoning.

BananaLettuce · January 2015

All possible derogatory nns aside, Hosie just doesn't even sound like a name to me. It's not attractive in the slightest.

Also, I could never use the name Hosanna. To me it would be like using the name Jehovah or Jesus (yes, I realize people use this name quite often, but I personally couldn't do it). Those are pretty hefty names to saddle a kid with. I just couldn't do it because of how I was raised. To me, those names are sacred and revered.

Josephine is a beautiful name with lots of nn options. Hope is also really pretty.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

Alright ladies, I think this has gone to a level it didn't have to go (and yes I'm partly to blame) so I just want to make a few things right before I go. I think we agree about a lot more things than yall realize, but because some are reading everything with the lens that they disagree with me and with the feeling you need to attack, a lot of what we do agree on it being missed.

1) I shouldn't have brought up such a sensitive topic as rape- I dragged it in bc I knew no one would disagree that rape victims aren't to blame, but it really wasn't necessary for me to bring in on a silly name post and truly it didn't make sense for this situation. Sorry about that. But I hope, my mistake aside, a little can be seen about what I was trying to say there, which is that innocent, perfectly ok names that someone decides to tease about isn't the name's or namers fault; it's an issue with the people doing the picking. Not ALL names fall in this category, as I stand by names such as Virginia, hosanna, and Giselle as not being names that are "asking for it."

2) I also agree that parents have a responsibility to name their children well. I'm not seeking out names for shock factor or anything irresponsible, and I believe that's the case with the names in question.

3) I AGREE that there are problems with Hosie.

I bet a lot of you didn't realize that- as several posters have claimed I'm "obsessed" with the name and that I refuse to give it up, when actually I haven't defended against the complaints about Hosie specifically a single time; I have only said that there are many names collectively that don't deserve to be treated like they are despicable just because they may come along with teasing. (IE- my example of the last name Horn. Yes, it's too easy to tease that with chants of "horny" and "horn dog", but last name Horn is still not a provocative a name by an means).

-I didn't know a lot of the stories yall told (military, fireman, etc) and I'm glad they were shared bc I wasn't aware of them and I agree they are problems (although in some cases they didn't have to be shared with such ugliness but that's out of my control)

-I *agree* that if a middle schooler thinks of it, adults probably will think of it when they hear the name too, as is clearly the case with Hosie. I *accept* comments of this nature. I don't accept comments ripping me for naming my child something deplorable when all I'm doing is exploring name possibilities on this board; not vowing allegiance to a certain name until my death like some people are acting as though I am.

-To me, the name Gay comes to mind. I know 2 older women with the name Gay. I'm sure in today's middle schools they'd be teased and I personally wouldn't name my child that, but as an adult, even though it does cross my mind that "hey- their name might draw some negative attention," as an adult I basically just get over it and after a few introductions, It's just their name to me. I'm sure people could do the same with a name like Hosie (though, like Gay, I would still have to decide if that was a good choice for a name, even for past middle school and into adulthood.) (ps this is not me calling the word gay "bad")

I get all that! I do. No I didn't communicate that super clearly as I could only bat away so much of the dozens of comments descended upon me, (including not being able to politely thank every nice suggestion made- im sorry) as many people were claiming I feel or say or defend things that I don't feel, didn't say, and don't defend. I hope my stance on this makes a little more sense, and I hope you can see we generally agree more than disagree on this one. Thank you

jennygirlmt · January 2015

I haven't read past page 1. I'm not one to ever consider teasing for a name. It doesn't cross my mind to do it, and I hope if it happens to my kids (for any reason) I'll be able to help them through it.

That said, Hosie is pretty ugly. Your other children were named for Eli and Liv. Gorgeous names in my opinion. I'd be pissed if I got stuck with ugly Hosie.

I'm blown away that Hosanna is a girl's name. That whole Hosanna in the Highest, screams male to me, but apparently I have that wrong.

ETA-Woah, I missed a lot on pages 2-4.

Dr.Loretta · January 2015

4 pages of being defensive = being obsessed around here

kthxbai

capulet · January 2015

I also don't think Hosie is an appealing NN. It doesn't make me think of anything obscene, it just makes me think of garden hoses, which is not as pleasant an image as is evoked by Rosie and Posie. If the vast majority of people who hear it say it sounds, at best, kind of fugly, your child probably won't like it either, no matter how it sounds to your ear.

I also want to point out that I personally wouldn't not use a name just because my friends used it, especially because my parents' friends kids aren't a huge part of my life and it seems silly to me that they might not have used my name (which I love) if they'd had a friend who used the same name whose kid I didn't even know 39 years later. Besides, Rosie especially is a nickname for so many nice girls' names (my favorites are Rosemary and Rosalind) that you can certainly use one of them and have a name that's unique among your friends' kids if you're comparing full names instead of nicknames.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

Dr.Loretta said:
4 pages of being defensive = being obsessed around here

kthxbai

I'm was trying to say that yall are missing the point that I'm not obsessed with the **specific name Hosie**, as so many are saying I am and stirring up arguments in that direction. But yes, I am choosing to keep defending my stance on naming choosing and teasing; and continuing to correct when my words are being twisted, like now.

This finding ways to attack regardless of what I'm actually saying is exactly what I'm referring to in my long post above. I think this post wouldn't be the mess it is if people would look at what's being said and not what they want it to say so that they can attack it and continue to throw dirt at me.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

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Lopo3 · January 2015

If you are going to name her Hosanna, her nn would most likely be Anna or Ana. At some point, your daughter will have an opinion about Hosie, and I imagine she won't be a fan and would even ask you to stop calling her that.

catahoulatte · January 2015

well I did ask why Hosie specifically or are there any other nicknames you are considering but that got ignored.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

@bromios‌ I edited it to make more sense; sorry I was ugly there.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

@catahoulatte‌ I'm sorry, there's over 100 comments and I'm not trying to ignore anyone; I'm just trying to get the convo to a reasonable place before people move on. Hosie because it's just a name I was considering and just decided to make a post and ask about it. It's not the only name on my list, but I just thought it was a cuter nickname for hosanna (a little different than the expected Anna) and wanted to see if there were any other names it was a nickname for.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

bromios said:

Ladybug7456 said:

@catahoulatte‌ I'm sorry, there's over 100 comments and I'm not trying to ignore anyone; I'm just trying to get the convo to a reasonable place before people move on. Hosie because it's just a name I was considering and just decided to make a post and ask about it. It's not the only name on my list, but I just thought it was a cuter nickname for hosanna (a little different than the expected Anna) and wanted to see if there were any other names it was a nickname for.

Wait, so you liked the name Hosanna, and you wanted to use Hosie as the nn for it instead of Anna, but your DH hates Hosanna, so that name is out, but you are still clinging to the nn you were planning on using for Hosanna but wanting a different name to go with it? This is pretty much the dictionary definition of "time to start over." Hosanna's out, Hosie's a terrible nn, so just start over.

Some of the details are different, but yes that's close enough. I liked Hosie and said hm, let me see if those ladies on the name board might have some ideas about it, and made the original post asking just that. Then unfortunately side arguments ensued, but none of my comments have been of me clinging to Hosie and refusing to go with different names, even though that's a lot of what's being said about me-- Hence a lot of my frustration with the whole thing. Hosie was one of many names on my list that I just wanted to explore a little more.

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

I didn't dig my hole deeper, I gave an example of another name that may invite teasing in middle school but that adults may notice initially but still use just fine. I don't get what's wrong with that.

magsugar13 · January 2015

Well, that was a Ho lotta fun to read through.

A lot of names will get made fun of, that is true....most of them do not include someone calling your daughter a HO, hose beater, hoser, etc...

srcr2011 · January 2015

Hosie?? Hosanna?...No

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

I already said what I wanted to say about the rape thing.

Also you're getting me defending my stance on something confused with being emotionally "freaked out." I'm good guys

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

I don't think anything will so I'm just gonna leave it and not make it worse

soontobemomof6 · January 2015

I agree

moret07 · January 2015

I think it's a very fair idea to throw out a name because of teasing. It's not potentially going to happen, it's inevitable. Not only in middle school but will be side eyed their whole life. When very first picking names I had a much different style of what I "liked". I liked the old name Bessie, threw it out because I saw mean boys calling her "busty bessie". I loved Louella, all the husband heard was Cruella.... Just my opinion but it's a good idea to toss a name for that reason. Again, just my opinion. Also, hate Hosie.

Edit to add: I should say that my last name is Horn**. So my kids will already be set up for teasing with the last name that I don't want to make it any worse for them.

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