I will return carts because 90%+ of the time I park near the cart return. I usually returned carts pre-kids too. @HighPeak some stores have the 'money in' to release a cart, but only in select areas. It was partially to deter theft of the carts and partially to reduce carts and vehicles being damaged. There are many stores that eventually disabled the locks for various reasons. I still deal with stores like that for work but I have a special key for them.
The only place I run in without getting LO out is to pay in the gas station. I usually pay at the pump, but if there are special promos for paying inside I just take the keys and lock the car. Kids stay buckled. Pre-kids I might not have locked the doors.
I do not run into any other store without the kids unless DH or DD is with them. DD is 13 so is responsible and can call me if needed or get them out.
*I return them because I park next to the return for that reason. Occasionally I am distrAxted and I forget so I either bring her with or don't take it back
If it's cold then I just don't.
*I don't go in to pay for gas anymore...and if I wanted something I would go to a drive thru because taking her out is a pain. She hates being buckled in but once it's done she's usually fine.
*dont leave baby in car alone at all. I'm even paranoid when I get gas I lock the car. Ever since those stories where people were robbing card while person got gas and they wouldn't even notice im so paranoid.
I always return my carts. I think it's the retail employee in me. I try to park as close to the cart return as I can. I put her in the car first before loading my car because it is way too cold here to keep her waiting outside!
I haven't left her in the car to go in a business. Don't get me wrong, I have been very tempted when she is sleeping and it is just a quick in and out trip, but I just can't do it.
I'm a proud formula feeder. Abby has been formula fed from her first feeding. I was somewhat ashamed at my choice at first, but now I'm confident that it was the right decision for me and will formula feed my next baby whenever he or she comes.
Always return my cart. I try to park near the cart return, but it doesn't always happen. Small towns have busy parking lots and you can count on me to load my baby into the warm truck and leave her there alone while I return my cart for 30-45 seconds.
Also I've been known to run into the glass walled post office to check my work PO Box without her. I can always see my vehicle, and I'm back outside in less than one minute. If I'm making ANY sort of purchase then I haul her in.
These are fffc's I guess, but I just don't see the risk being THAT high. The chances of her contracting measles are higher than something going wrong in the 60 seconds I'm away from the vehicle.
Also on the note of measles. My nieces birthday party just got bumped back 3 weeks so she can be quarantined. Apparently the kids who caught measles at Disneyland that are from Utah go to church with my SIL and my 2 year old niece was exposed. She's only had the first half of her vaccinations so her mom is taking it extremely seriously—smart thing to do, obviously.
I'm crossing my fingers Maddie checks out okay!
I've never been a high strung mom, and I've always seen that as a blessing. The less anxiety in my life, the better. Which is why I try to not sweat the small things.
My true UO is that I'm sad Holland ditched her binky on her own. I hear of babies soothing themselves with one and I am instantly jealous. I was always planning on having to take away the binky....
You may be able to see your car, but you'll also be able to see the criminal jump in the front seat and take off or someone reach in and grab your kid without being able to do anything to stop it.
I leave my kid in the car to pay for gas. It is so far beyond extraordinarily unlikely that a stranger is going to jump in and steal him/the car in the 2 minutes I'm paying for gas that I find it laughable.
Waaaaaayyyyy more likely he'd be struck by lightning or attacked by sharks.
Guess you guys are bigger risk takers than me. And you all apparently live in fairy tale places where no crime is ever committed. I'm starting to think I have mistaken a Bump board with Baby Center.
Redwine if you can come up with some statistics that prove to me it is likely that my child will be kidnapped or my car stolen while I pay for gas in rural Vermont, I will change my tune.
Having a backyard pool is way way WAY more risky than paying for gas. So is owning a firearm.
PepperedMoth, if you don't know the crime stats in your own town, I'm not doing that research for you. I don't care if you live where unicorns run freely and fairies deliver your breakfast in the morning. There's still a chance of someone doing something terrible while your away from your car for "2 mins" (I promise it takes longer than 2 bloody mins) as you put it. I'm not willing to take that risk. If something were to happen, it would be my fault for leaving my baby in the car unattended and I would never be able to live with myself.
And for the record, I'm anti-gun and don't have a pool. Not sure what that has to do with anything anyway.
I have done the research; that is my whole point. M
It is so incredibly rare for a stranger to kidnap a child in my area (non-custodial parent kidnappings are another matter) that the risk of it happening is almost unimaginably small.
I bring up pools and guns because I approach all of these things as serious parenting choices. There is a level of risk above with I will not chance. I look at statistics and weigh risks versus benefits.
Things that are too risky for me to be OK with, at all, ever, not even once: -Keeping a loaded gun in the house -not using seat belts -when he was small, putting him to sleep on his stomach or with a blanket (moot now) -skipping the flu shot (or any other vaccine)
Things that are statistically risky, but I am OK with because the risks outweigh the benefits: -backyard pools, so long as they are gated -playgrounds -sledding -organized sports -riding in a car WITH car seats/seat belts
Things that are so statistically unlikely that I find it hard to take people seriously when they scold me for not being worried about them: -Ebola -Strangers kidnapping my child from the car at the gas station -Shark attacks while vacationing in Maine
I live in the most densely populated state (Wut up Jerz!) and I have no issue leaving both kids in the car, buckled in their seats, while I return a cart with keys in hand. I've also left them in the car, buckled in their seats in my driveway while I run in and grab whatever item it is I've forgotten with keys in hand.
If a random stranger jumps into my car, hotwires it, and drives away with my kids; or if a random stranger jumps into my car, unbuckles both kids and takes off with them, in the 10 seconds it takes me to accomplish these tasks, I'll eat my words. Until then, I don't see any issues.
Lastly, we don't pump our own gas in Jersey. It's awesome.
@NewMomma8 It's severely frowned upon (if not illegal) for a child to be at the pump while pumping gas in Ontario. A few stations I've been to wouldn't let my DD (8 or 9 at the time) stand with me while I pumped. The legal minimum to pump is age 16 years. I think we are referring to paying inside. I prefer to pay at the pump, but sometimes that function is broken, or when in rural Ontario they make you prepay especially late at night/really early morning. If there are bonus Air Miles promos I might go in to pay as well. I lock the car, keys in hand and go inside.
To everyone else, I have remote start on my car, so I leave it running with the kids in it and lock it if I need to run inside the house or gas station for a minute. They keys are in my hand. I never leave the keys in the ignition and get out unless there is an adult in the car because I've had my doors lock on other vehicles with my DD strapped into her child seat. Luckily she was big enough to unbuckle herself to open the door.
Re: UO Then vs Now
Returning shopping carts
Running into the store for a second with/without baby (in car)
Paying inside gas station with/without baby
I usually returned carts pre-kids too.
@HighPeak some stores have the 'money in' to release a cart, but only in select areas. It was partially to deter theft of the carts and partially to reduce carts and vehicles being damaged. There are many stores that eventually disabled the locks for various reasons. I still deal with stores like that for work but I have a special key for them.
The only place I run in without getting LO out is to pay in the gas station. I usually pay at the pump, but if there are special promos for paying inside I just take the keys and lock the car. Kids stay buckled.
Pre-kids I might not have locked the doors.
I do not run into any other store without the kids unless DH or DD is with them. DD is 13 so is responsible and can call me if needed or get them out.
If it's cold then I just don't.
*I don't go in to pay for gas anymore...and if I wanted something I would go to a drive thru because taking her out is a pain. She hates being buckled in but once it's done she's usually fine.
*dont leave baby in car alone at all. I'm even paranoid when I get gas I lock the car. Ever since those stories where people were robbing card while person got gas and they wouldn't even notice im so paranoid.
I haven't left her in the car to go in a business. Don't get me wrong, I have been very tempted when she is sleeping and it is just a quick in and out trip, but I just can't do it.
I'm a proud formula feeder. Abby has been formula fed from her first feeding. I was somewhat ashamed at my choice at first, but now I'm confident that it was the right decision for me and will formula feed my next baby whenever he or she comes.
Also I've been known to run into the glass walled post office to check my work PO Box without her. I can always see my vehicle, and I'm back outside in less than one minute. If I'm making ANY sort of purchase then I haul her in.
These are fffc's I guess, but I just don't see the risk being THAT high. The chances of her contracting measles are higher than something going wrong in the 60 seconds I'm away from the vehicle.
Also on the note of measles. My nieces birthday party just got bumped back 3 weeks so she can be quarantined. Apparently the kids who caught measles at Disneyland that are from Utah go to church with my SIL and my 2 year old niece was exposed. She's only had the first half of her vaccinations so her mom is taking it extremely seriously—smart thing to do, obviously.
I'm crossing my fingers Maddie checks out okay!
I've never been a high strung mom, and I've always seen that as a blessing. The less anxiety in my life, the better. Which is why I try to not sweat the small things.
My true UO is that I'm sad Holland ditched her binky on her own. I hear of babies soothing themselves with one and I am instantly jealous. I was always planning on having to take away the binky....
**lurker out**
Waaaaaayyyyy more likely he'd be struck by lightning or attacked by sharks.
Having a backyard pool is way way WAY more risky than paying for gas. So is owning a firearm.
And for the record, I'm anti-gun and don't have a pool. Not sure what that has to do with anything anyway.
It is so incredibly rare for a stranger to kidnap a child in my area (non-custodial parent kidnappings are another matter) that the risk of it happening is almost unimaginably small.
I bring up pools and guns because I approach all of these things as serious parenting choices. There is a level of risk above with I will not chance. I look at statistics and weigh risks versus benefits.
Things that are too risky for me to be OK with, at all, ever, not even once:
-Keeping a loaded gun in the house
-not using seat belts
-when he was small, putting him to sleep on his stomach or with a blanket (moot now)
-skipping the flu shot (or any other vaccine)
Things that are statistically risky, but I am OK with because the risks outweigh the benefits:
-backyard pools, so long as they are gated
-playgrounds
-sledding
-organized sports
-riding in a car WITH car seats/seat belts
Things that are so statistically unlikely that I find it hard to take people seriously when they scold me for not being worried about them:
-Ebola
-Strangers kidnapping my child from the car at the gas station
-Shark attacks while vacationing in Maine
It's severely frowned upon (if not illegal) for a child to be at the pump while pumping gas in Ontario. A few stations I've been to wouldn't let my DD (8 or 9 at the time) stand with me while I pumped. The legal minimum to pump is age 16 years.
I think we are referring to paying inside.
I prefer to pay at the pump, but sometimes that function is broken, or when in rural Ontario they make you prepay especially late at night/really early morning. If there are bonus Air Miles promos I might go in to pay as well. I lock the car, keys in hand and go inside.
To everyone else, I have remote start on my car, so I leave it running with the kids in it and lock it if I need to run inside the house or gas station for a minute. They keys are in my hand.
I never leave the keys in the ignition and get out unless there is an adult in the car because I've had my doors lock on other vehicles with my DD strapped into her child seat. Luckily she was big enough to unbuckle herself to open the door.