The SleepEasy Thread

Jazznit1984 · December 2014

Well LO has definitely been struggling over the holidays. Between her lag, teething and contracting HFM from DH. Her first week if nights were horrible. She's finally started to feel better but DHs in laws cannot let her cry it out. DH started the timer and said 5 min, his aunt lasted 2. Then said it was wrong to let LO CIO. Thank goodness for SFIL he said that the longer she's out of her routine the harder it will be for us when we e and go hone and that they need to start sucking it up. Here's hoping

nunzchucks · December 2014

@Jazznit1984‌ I will never understand why family thinks it is ok to mess with a parent's routine. If someone suggested that, I would lose my ever loving mind. My response "OK, aunt, you just signed up for nighttime duty. Good luck. I'm getting wine"

babygabe614 · December 2014

LO got her 6 month shots yesterday and had a couple brief wakeups during the night, but thankfully (thanks to SleepEasy) she was able to soothe herself back to sleep. The first one I could tell she was in a weird position in the crib so I went in and gently adjusted her to her normal sleeping spot and she went right back to sleep. The second was around 4:30am and she just fussed for about 10 minutes and went back to sleep for another hour, until her normal wakeup time at 5:30. I am just so grateful she has the skills to do that now!!

DH & I are leaving her overnight with my mom on NYE so here's hoping the hard work paid off and she doesn't have any wakeups that night.

nunzchucks · December 2014

Hooray @babygabe614‌! I always felt like DD weathered the life transitions better because she could soothe herself.

flojo973 · December 2014

Yay @babygabe614! DD has the rest of her flu and prevnar shots today so I'm hoping that she is okay tonight. I'm still just in shock that I can put her down awake and she puts herself to sleep.

nunzchucks · December 2014

Ugh @camag. I'm so sorry. I feel like all the LOs hit the holiday hell just as they were getting the hang of good sleep.

babygabe614 · December 2014

Hugs @CAMag‌ ! I hope they can get back on schedule fairly smoothly.

AbbySeiden · January 2015

So I might have solved my napping issues - turns out my LO can stay away for a long time - like 3.5 hours. After which he took an 1hr 20 minute nap, which is a huge accomplishment for my 20 min cat napper. However this throws his feeding schedule into a big mess. What do most of your daily schedules look like?

nunzchucks · January 2015

Mine is pretty similar to @charsamm

AbbySeiden · January 2015

So far his new schedule is looking like:

Wake-up 7:30
Bottle/Breast 7:45
Cereal 8:30/9
Nap 1 - 11:00am -12:15/12:30pm
Bottle/Breast 12:45
Purée 2:00pm
Nap 2 - 3:15pm (sometime 20mins sometimes 40mins)
Bottle/breast 4:45
Purée 6:00
Bottle/breast 7:20
Bed 7:30

nunzchucks · January 2015

@AbbySeiden‌ I think your schedule is fine. At 6 mo, they need 11-12 hrs of sleep per night and 2-3.25 hrs during the day.

katekat8721 · January 2015

@CAMag nooo, I'm so sorry! The boys have already been through it once, so now this time it may just be a refresher course and hopefully they'll fall back into step easily. It'll probably be harder on you than them this time around, if that's any comfort! Text me if you need moral support xo

lola4411 · January 2015

@CAMag sorry to hear that! Holidays have been rough on our sleepers, huh?

tbmadeamistake · January 2015

Retraining our mornings. Naps and bedtimes are fine. 3:45am he's up. Some nights it's bchatting and fussing, some, like tonight, it's full on crying. I can't keep listening to him cry and I can't keep getting up this early. I'm leaving him in there until 6, as he goes down at 7. I've done checkins as needed and a fast, dark diaper change. Still up and crying. Its been an hour and a half so far. This sucks. Bedtime was never this hard. He's also started up an extra nap to make up the not sleeping late enough in the morning, and I'm not sure how to cut that out but know if I can get him back to two solid naps, he'd sleep better at night. Sigh. Any input?

nunzchucks · January 2015

@lilygrace48 DS is the same. He's sleeping 6:30-3:30 fine then sleeping intermittently until 4:30. I get him up at 5. He's still on 3 naps (1.5 hr, 1.5 hr, 45 min) so I'm just hoping that when he can wake for longer intervals and go to 2 naps, the nighttime sleep will get better. We are trying to move bedtime to 7 to see if that will help and gradually increasing the wake time between naps 1 and 2 and 2 and 3 to 3 hrs from 2.5.

tbmadeamistake · January 2015

Thanks @nunzchucks. I changed his diaper at 5 and he went right back to sleep until almost 7, so now I'm wondering if that's his problem. If he wakes up again tomorrow morning I'll try that first!

babygabe614 · January 2015

Here's hoping I didn't royally screw things up. Yesterday we took my stepson to the roller rink to skate bc it was nasty outside and I think DD got majorly overstimulated. She didn't end up taking her afternoon nap until 2 hours after she should have (we were home in time, and you could tell she was exhausted but so wired up she just couldn't settle into sleep at all), so bedtime got completely screwed up. She ended up sleeping from 5pm-7:30 (normally bedtime is 7pm), woke for a bottle and was back asleep around 8. Then she was up crying at 2:30. She's actively teething right now and between that and the overstimulation of the day I just couldn't bring myself to let her cry, so I went in and changed her and gave her a bottle and she went back down until 5:30am.

So far today, she napped in the morning but only for 30 mins and she's now about 25 mins into her second nap (we tried getting her down for the second at the 2.5 hr mark but she didn't fall asleep until 4 hours after waking from the first one...ugh). I'm praying that she gets a good, solid nap this time. The boys just left so at least it will be quiet. If she wakes after 30 min again I think we'll need to start over on training for naps... blerg.

nunzchucks · January 2015

@babygabe614 No worries! Teething is the worst. DS has been up at 3 everyday since Christmas. Just be consistent again as soon as you can. Motrin is my best friend right now.

babygabe614 · January 2015

Ugh sorry you are dealing with that @nunzchucks‌! So far we are doing ok... Her longest nap was an hour and she's on her third nap now. She woke up after 30 mins and fussed off and on for 20 mins and is back asleep now. Praying tonight goes better for both of us!

lola4411 · January 2015

@babygabe614 and @nunzchucks have you guys tried the amber necklace? baby boy has been teething for a while (no teeth yet) but much less drool and no fussiness.

i now understand why people with babies dont travel. we are finally getting back to our west coast schedule, although baby boy is still waking up way too early due to jet lag.

nunzchucks · January 2015

@lola4411 Can you link what you have?

katekat8721 · January 2015

sleep sisters, let me know your thoughts.

Our current schedule has been BT 6:30, WT 5:30, 1st nap 7:30-8:30, 2nd nap 11:00-1:00, 3rd nap 3:30-4:30

Both the girls are getting very fussy around naps and aren't going down as easily as they used to. The past three days V is getting up at 4:30 am instead of 5:30 am and won't go back to sleep.

They're 7 months now (6 months adjusted).

I've been home the past two weeks and we haven't been good about our WT, sometimes it's 5:30, sometimes it's 6:00... do you think that inconsistency is enough to throw off our naps?

Do you think we should start letting the girls shorten their naps? Or start pushing for more time in between naps?

Thanks girls. We're getting really frustrated!

lola4411 · January 2015

@nunzchucks of course!

baltic amber necklace

baby boy wears it all the time even while sleeping and he doesnt even notice that its on. we only take it off for his bath. friends swore by it and their 3 year old daughter has had hers on since 4 months old. so far it seems to work!

babygabe614 · January 2015

Thanks for the link @lola4411‌!

TunieBee · January 2015

katekat8721 said:
sleep sisters, let me know your thoughts.

Our current schedule has been BT 6:30, WT 5:30, 1st nap 7:30-8:30, 2nd nap 11:00-1:00, 3rd nap 3:30-4:30

Both the girls are getting very fussy around naps and aren't going down as easily as they used to. The past three days V is getting up at 4:30 am instead of 5:30 am and won't go back to sleep.

They're 7 months now (6 months adjusted).

I've been home the past two weeks and we haven't been good about our WT, sometimes it's 5:30, sometimes it's 6:00... do you think that inconsistency is enough to throw off our naps?

Do you think we should start letting the girls shorten their naps? Or start pushing for more time in between naps?

Thanks girls. We're getting really frustrated!

My LO is 6 months now and we have even doing 2 naps a day for the last 3ish weeks. Sleep 7-7. First nap 10-12, second nap 3-5. He was taking more frequent, shorter naps before but this seems to be working. Sometime they're 90 minutes instead of a full two hours. Also, if he wakes early or late, my rule is first nap 3 hours after wake-up and then 3 hours again for the second nap.

My problem is we've gotten totally off track with nighttime sleep during the holidays with travel and visitors. Now we have 2 wake ups a nights and I've been feeding. For some reason, I can't deal with re-training. Any words of encouragement?

katekat8721 · January 2015

@mrsmountainmama thank you for chiming in! I really like that schedule, I wish I could get the girls on something like that!

I wish I had words of encouragement... DH and I talk about how it's much harder to maintain sleep training than it was to actually do the sleep training. Hearing them cry now breaks our hearts, where in the beginning we were more "ok" with it because we could rationalize it was for a short duration and for a purpose, kwim? Ugh. Hang on there girl.

nunzchucks · January 2015

@katekat8721‌ I would try lengthening wake times to 2.5/3/3. It sounds like maybe that third nap is about to go. We are getting there with DS and he is 7 mo today.

Jazznit1984 · January 2015

@nunzchucks‌ I love them all dearly..

But as Dory says "just keep swimming". I get back to my moms place so I will start my retraining there.

wareagle1220 · January 2015

We hopped on sleep easy a few days ago and we are on night 4. The first night was the worst, 2nd and 3rd were much better (only woke 1 or 2x and put herself back down with no checks), but tonight has been not so great. She cried for 40 minutes at bedtime and just cries lightly for an hour from 120 to 220 am. I going in to do our weaned feeding at 3 am in a minute but I'm wondering a few things.

1, I missed her 3rd nap today. I was out running an errand and it just didn't work. She's 6 days shy of 7 months. She did take 2 2.5 hour naps today. I actually think that's the only difference from the last couple of days. Could that result in her being overtired and cry more? I know the book says to limit naps to 2 hours, but since she only took 2, the timing didn't work out unless I let her sleep longer. I don't think she's quite ready for 2 naps, but she's getting close.

2, how do you limit total daytime sleep if you don't wake baby until the 2 hour mark? Do you wake baby from the last nap 2.5 hours from bedtime? This seems too long for us.

Am I just over thinking the crappy night we've had and should chalk it up to normal fluctuations? I guess im just surprised that we had two great nights then a really crappy one. We are sitting at 1 hr 40 minutes total crying for night 4.

nunzchucks · January 2015

@wareagle1220‌
1. It's possuble she got too much daytime sleep, but I wouldn't worry too much about that. For us, it was very obvious when DD dropped her third nap. She spent the entire time fussing and crying and didn't sleep.
2. I always wake 2.5 hrs before bed so they are sufficiently tired before bed time, but not over tired. DS can almost go 3 hrs now (7 mo yesterday)
I think the crying could be from being off schedule yesterday combined with a funky night. The book does talk about a little extinction burst just as they get the hang of it. FX tonight is better.

wareagle1220 · January 2015

Thanks @nunzchucks‌. I'm hoping that was an extinction burst. I'm gonna stick to her nap schedule religiously today and hopefully tonight will be better. She just did so well on nights 2 and 3. It was a little discouraging.

katekat8721 · January 2015

@CAMag‌ hugs hugs hugs

katekat8721 · January 2015

^^that's one for you and each of the boys xo

babygabe614 · January 2015

Ugh, I cannot wait until this bout of teething subsides. LO's two front teeth have been screwing up our schedule all week and this morning she was up at 4am screaming.

We have been doing everything we can to soothe her of course, but now her schedule is a mess. DH has to do bedtime solo tonight because I have a meeting about 30 mins away and I am quite scared of how that will go...

flojo973 · January 2015

@CAMag - huge hugs. You can do this!

nunzchucks · January 2015

babygabe614 said:
Ugh, I cannot wait until this bout of teething subsides. LO's two front teeth have been screwing up our schedule all week and this morning she was up at 4am screaming. We have been doing everything we can to soothe her of course, but now her schedule is a mess. DH has to do bedtime solo tonight because I have a meeting about 30 mins away and I am quite scared of how that will go...

Teeth are the devil. DD slept thru it, but DS struggles. He also got two at once which never happened with DD. Motrin really helps. Are you doing that?

babygabe614 · January 2015

nunzchucks said:

Ugh, I cannot wait until this bout of teething subsides. LO's two front teeth have been screwing up our schedule all week and this morning she was up at 4am screaming. We have been doing everything we can to soothe her of course, but now her schedule is a mess. DH has to do bedtime solo tonight because I have a meeting about 30 mins away and I am quite scared of how that will go...
Teeth are the devil. DD slept thru it, but DS struggles. He also got two at once which never happened with DD. Motrin really helps. Are you doing that?

@nunzchucks Yes, we have tried both Tylenol and Motrin and we are also doing infant Orajel which seems to actually help the most (or at least gives the most immediate relief, but unfortunately is short-lived). I hate how she will be hungry for a bottle but can only take one sip and then starts crying. I can't move her up a nipple size because then she chokes. We can get her down for sleep at night after tylenol + Orajel, but once she stirs she's unable to settle herself again like she normally would because of the pain. Then she gets so worked up, she's awake for hours (like this morning). Ugh! Her first two teeth on the bottom were nothing like this and she was totally unphased so this caught us off guard, I guess. Just venting... I know we all have to deal with teething but it is just breaking my heart right now to see her like this and feeling so helpless.

TunieBee · January 2015

CAMag said:

Night one of what I call Round 3. The boys cried for ~30 mins each after the 1st wake up. They have cried longer, but it is the sheer magnitude of the cries now that really hurts . My poor bubahs. I'm really hoping that they remember the drill and get back into the swing of things quickly. ...over here begging for strength to do this again...

The crying is SO much harder now that they're older. Ouch. Good luck.

ladytiffany24 · January 2015

Lurking from July 2014...

I'm hoping to start some sleep training next week (been reading 3 different books, including SleepEasy). I was hoping to hop into this thread to get some encouragement and advice when/if needed!

My LO was born on July 4, 2014. She's now 6 months old and I'm just at my wit's end. So I know it's finally time for some sleep training!

babygabe614 · January 2015

@CAMag thanks for asking! She is doing much better now that one tooth has broken completely through and the other is well on its way. She can take a bottle without pain now, which has been the biggest positive change. Only like 20 more teeth to go! :P Congrats on your LOs STTN!! I am always so amazed by you twin mommas... this shiz is hard enough with one; I can't imagine trying to coordinate two to sleep simultaneously. Hats off to you for sure!

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