I don't pray either. I do send out good thoughts and hope for the threads that require it and so find myself thinking about those posts even after it's been awhile and we haven't had an update and I can't find said post. Anyway aside from the support threads and moving onto another part of a community... I'm assuming you have a group of friends that you actually enjoy being with and have a good time. I'm assuming it's because you have the same opinions, interests etc. I can't imagine that you found a group of friends and decided hey these people will change for me and abide by my rules! Typically you don't turn to those people. You find people that you click with. These women on this board may not be your cup of tea but as you say, you've been keeping up with us.. You should know by now that we are EACH OTHERS cups of tea. You may find us bitter and needing sugar but hey perhaps that's just your personal taste. And that's fine but don't push your beliefs onto an established group. You (I hope) wouldn't expect that in your "real life". Just because it's the internet and most of us will probably never meet doesn't mean it's not a real relationship that we've formed.
You are not worth me writing something new I am copying and pasting a response to you in the other thread:
2 posts from you and you are now A15's ambassador and welcome wagon?
by all means please be a part of our community- but make sure to stop by all the threads where T and P are needed and the loss threads and heck even the fun ones where we all have spent months getting to know one and other.
until you have done any of that you are not a member of this community that you so quickly want to bash and dismiss. Until you actually participate in this community like us " mean girls" are doing you can kindly go fuck off and find a bag of dicks to suck on.
Your opinion is less than dirt.
You're arguing against things I never said. It's a strawman.
Anyone who installs the app is technically a member of the community. We can each engage where and how we're able.
I do not appreciate your outright insults. The TOU here are very lax, but I think telling someone to suck a bag of dicks is at least beyond the standard of reasonable behavior. I don't know what else is going on with you and your day.. I hope you're okay and that you can feel more at peace.
I really wasn't going to respond to this, but the more I read the more I feel the need. I'm a newbie. Noone once has been mean to me or made me feel "bullied". In fact very opposite. I've posted 2 discussions and multiple replies and felt nothing less than a community of women helping each other out. If we were to ignore every ignorant, redundant and frankly immature post that comes across, we would never see the ones that matter and mean something. For example the poor women who have lost a baby or are going through serious issues with their LO. If you read those posts you will feel all the support in the world from strangers to strangers.
Fact of the matter is we are strangers, our feelings on names shouldn't matter. We aren't medical experts. We can offer advice from similar situations but we aren't doctors. You mentioned you've been here for 4 months. With all do respect, if you haven't gathered the sense of community in those 4 months, please lurk longer. These women are smart, strong women and have a lot to offer. My apologies to you, if you haven't been able to open your eyes to see that blessing.
I am so happy for you that you are having a great experience. Did I say 4 months? I'm honestly not sure how long it has been. As soon as I got a confirmation of my pregnancy I downloaded every free app I could.
I love that today he's as big as a cauliflower because that is a hilarious unit of measure.
I don't believe in prayer or blessings, so it's hard for me to comfort a stranger going through a loss, but I plan to try. Having broken the seal in posting and having made the decision to engage more with this internet community, I'll have to see where it goes. Probably too far! With two jobs and several volunteer board positions, I'll have to see what I can do. I do see great posts and content, I hope more new people will not be scared off by the loud echo chamber of snark.... They should see the good. With a little help and a lot of humanity, I think they can.?
I call bullshit.
I'm an atheist and I do just fine sending other people messages of support. #notthathard
Sorry to be unclear. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying it's something I personally struggle to know how to do. I'll try to keep an eye out for how you've managed and see what I can learn.
You're arguing against things I never said. It's a strawman.
Anyone who installs the app is technically a member of the community. We can each engage where and how we're able.
I do not appreciate your outright insults. The TOU here are very lax, but I think telling someone to suck a bag of dicks is at least beyond the standard of reasonable behavior. I don't know what else is going on with you and your day.. I hope you're okay and that you can feel more at peace.
It's eating a bag of dicks. No one has the time to suck an entire bag.
This made me laugh so loud just now lol! The girl working the counter here was looking at me like i have lost my mind. )
I am so happy for you that you are having a great experience. Did I say 4 months? I'm honestly not sure how long it has been. As soon as I got a confirmation of my pregnancy I downloaded every free app I could.
I love that today he's as big as a cauliflower because that is a hilarious unit of measure.
I don't believe in prayer or blessings, so it's hard for me to comfort a stranger going through a loss, but I plan to try. Having broken the seal in posting and having made the decision to engage more with this internet community, I'll have to see where it goes. Probably too far! With two jobs and several volunteer board positions, I'll have to see what I can do. I do see great posts and content, I hope more new people will not be scared off by the loud echo chamber of snark.... They should see the good. With a little help and a lot of humanity, I think they can.?
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Haha. Sorry. I didn't mean to do a humble brag. I couldn't think of a better way to say -I'm swamped - with tons of obligations I cannot avoid). I can wear dirty jeans, but I can't skip appointments).
I will pay for my i attention at work today with a late night getting caught up.. This level of participation is definitely NOT sustainable. Good news for some, I would guess.
Good tip. I have always accessed is the app, but I can check it out in my mobile browser. Can't look at it on my work computer, unfortunately.
Yeah... I debated a lot over whether to engage or ignore. I just feel so bad for the people who have had bad experiences here, so I've decided to be the change I want to see in the world. (Cue the violins). It would be good not to just tell people who want to help improve the site to leave. Let's grow the community instead.
Okay, I officially think this is just someone messing with us. At least I hope this is a joke and not someone who really thinks that their posts on here are that important.
Haha. Sorry. I didn't mean to do a humble brag. I couldn't think of a better way to say -I'm swamped - with tons of obligations I cannot avoid). I can wear dirty jeans, but I can't skip appointments).
I will pay for my i attention at work today with a late night getting caught up.. This level of participation is definitely NOT sustainable. Good news for some, I would guess.
You wouldn't happen to be from the Pacific Northwest by any chance, would you?
Reasonable people could disagree about the dramatics, but it's the word I meant to type.
NO.... One of our regs losing her baby at 20+ weeks is tragic. Another having her water break at just over 20 weeks, putting her twins in danger is tragic. Both of them having gone through hell and back just to conceive and then going through what they're going through is tragic.
Redirecting to BabyCenter the speeshul snowflakes like yourself that prefer glitter and rainbows and contradict themselves in their complaints about this board relative to their own behavior on this board... that is not tragic. That's just all in a day's work around here.
Really, come out from your cave and maybe learn a little about the world, including consulting a dictionary for the definition of the word "tragic" before you call snarky posts and redirecting to BC "tragic."
Be gone now, WK troll.
This. 100% EXACTLY THIS.
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Dating: March 17, 2008
Married: May 18, 2013
BFP: August 16, 2014
Our rainbow baby after two losses. Rest sweetly, my angels.
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I've been reading posts in this forum for months, and you regulars really are awful to new people. Was a snarky post like this so you could all cackle together about the idiots you disdain so much really necessary? Have you nothing better to do? Of course the more self-righteous and narcassistic newbies will complain and look ridiculous instead of just ignoring your mean girl behavior.
I've been shocked to see someone apologize for saying the regulars are mean here. There's nothing for which she should apologize: you are mean, awful people. I like the app and sometimes find the discussions helpful, even the moronic - is this normal - posts can make me feel better that I'm not a crazy person. But I'm fed up watching newbies bullied into leaving. Some won't care and probably never realized you were making fun of them. The comment above about the names really is spot on, but what's wrong with validating someone else's horrific name choice? That hypothetical woman sounds insecure and is reaching out. You don't have to agree or name your kid that, just say, "I don't know any names like that to suggest, but I'm sure you'll figure it out. Good luck!"
I would love to see more responses that are positive and supportive of each other, not just the vocal clique. Being pregnant, esp as a FTM, can be challenging. Now, I wonder how many of the women in the waiting room at my Obgyn are thoughtless and rude making catty comments in their heads when I'm just trying to do my best.
I (foolishly?) hope some of you will read this and reflect on your behavior and consider trying to act like kinder human beings. I'll try to actually participate in the future to try to drown out the mean and hateful comments.
Then go to the website. You do not need to use the app. Each smart phone is equipped with an internet browser. So much easier.
If you do not like the board dynamic, find a different place you like and fit in.
Good tip. I have always accessed is the app, but I can check it out in my mobile browser. Can't look at it on my work computer, unfortunately.
Yeah... I debated a lot over whether to engage or ignore. I just feel so bad for the people who have had bad experiences here, so I've decided to be the change I want to see in the world. (Cue the violins). It would be good not to just tell people who want to help improve the site to leave. Let's grow the community instead.
You are a babycenter troll. No other explanation.
I'm not a troll and strongly oppose trolling. I don't know how else to phrase my earnest desire to improve the experience for new people so they are not shamed into shutting up or leaving, so many people are trying to shut me down today with negativity... I just want more ppl to get beyond the mockery, the rude gifs, and the downright meanness to find the good stuff.
This shouldn't be revolutionary. What about this is so threatening?!
Guys, learn to spot a troll. This is one of the more obvious ones I've seen. Wants the board to be a sweeter, more understanding place, but can't figure out how to be sweet and supportive to the members who truly need it (i.e. NOT those looking for "creative" name spellings). C'mon now.
You couldn't be further from the truth.
Being honest I don't have the experience of emotional intelligence to comfort a stranger experiencing a loss is not the same as saying I don't plan to try or be supportive. That was me trying to share with you a failing of mine and something I will have to overcome now that I've chosen to engage more with this forum.
And you mock it... Please remove your defensive -outsider bad- hat and try to see me as a person.
Oh, for fucks sake. I start writing a reply, I leave to have lunch with my kids, I come back and finish typing my post and submit it, then I catch up. When the fuck will I learn? Hey, @kuchick1, you can fuck off now, because according to you, you feel bad for all the attention whores, but when called out on the lack of support that you've given up to this point, your explanation is that you struggle with expressing compassion because you're an atheist? That makes no sense, and is really fucking insulting to anyone who is an atheist. "Oh the poor bullied special snowflakes! How awful for them! I should stand up for them! Hey, you all need to be nice. Oh, what? I've not supported anyone? That's because I'm an atheist and therefore don't know how." Fuck. Off. To you and your entire message. Just fuck off.
You're arguing with things I did not say.
I did not say that I haven't posted b/c of any of that. I'm not an atheist even, I just don't believe in prayers or blessings.
I said that I haven't wanted to post here and have just lurked.. Reading the bits I could and ignoring the bad behavior. Today I felt compelled morally to say what I felt and said I plan to post more to help make this a better place.
I really don't appreciate your personal attacks or rudeness. If you want to disagree, that's fine. I was/am only asking people to try to have a more open mind, a more open heart and to consider being kinder to new ppl and to one another. Whatever else is going on for you, the Internet/this forum should not be a cause of angst or anger, for you or others. My hope is for it to be a place of support and caring both for the clique and the new users just starting to find their way.
Guys, learn to spot a troll. This is one of the more obvious ones I've seen. Wants the board to be a sweeter, more understanding place, but can't figure out how to be sweet and supportive to the members who truly need it (i.e. NOT those looking for "creative" name spellings). C'mon now.
You couldn't be further from the truth.
Being honest I don't have the experience of emotional intelligence to comfort a stranger experiencing a loss is not the same as saying I don't plan to try or be supportive. That was me trying to share with you a failing of mine and something I will have to overcome now that I've chosen to engage more with this forum.
And you mock it... Please remove your defensive -outsider bad- hat and try to see me as a person.
It's cute that you're trying to tell a mod what to do.
As I've read it, there is not special moderator permissions or hierarchy here.
Regardless, I said please. Not b/c she's a moderator but b/c it's polite.
I really wasn't going to respond to this, but the more I read the more I feel the need. I'm a newbie. Noone once has been mean to me or made me feel "bullied". In fact very opposite. I've posted 2 discussions and multiple replies and felt nothing less than a community of women helping each other out. If we were to ignore every ignorant, redundant and frankly immature post that comes across, we would never see the ones that matter and mean something. For example the poor women who have lost a baby or are going through serious issues with their LO. If you read those posts you will feel all the support in the world from strangers to strangers.
Fact of the matter is we are strangers, our feelings on names shouldn't matter. We aren't medical experts. We can offer advice from similar situations but we aren't doctors. You mentioned you've been here for 4 months. With all do respect, if you haven't gathered the sense of community in those 4 months, please lurk longer. These women are smart, strong women and have a lot to offer. My apologies to you, if you haven't been able to open your eyes to see that blessing.
I am so happy for you that you are having a great experience. Did I say 4 months? I'm honestly not sure how long it has been. As soon as I got a confirmation of my pregnancy I downloaded every free app I could.
I love that today he's as big as a cauliflower because that is a hilarious unit of measure.
I don't believe in prayer or blessings, so it's hard for me to comfort a stranger going through a loss, but I plan to try. Having broken the seal in posting and having made the decision to engage more with this internet community, I'll have to see where it goes. Probably too far! With two jobs and several volunteer board positions, I'll have to see what I can do. I do see great posts and content, I hope more new people will not be scared off by the loud echo chamber of snark.... They should see the good. With a little help and a lot of humanity, I think they can.?
I call bullshit.
I'm an atheist and I do just fine sending other people messages of support. #notthathard
Sorry to be unclear. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying it's something I personally struggle to know how to do. I'll try to keep an eye out for how you've managed and see what I can learn.
Thanks!
Seriously? "I am so sorry for your loss." "That is so sad." "Thinking of you." "Get well soon."
Maybe if you spent less time policing everyone else's behavior around how to be kind, you would actually have time to figure out how to be kind yourself.
Here's an assignment. Go find any of the 5 or so recent posts (easy to find on the first page) that are asking for support for specific, serious, things. Put your money where your mouth is and take two seconds to write a supportive post.
That's a good idea. I'm trying to be responsive to feedback here first. I want to hear and respond to ppl where I can, so I'm trying to keep up. I really hope that by asking for more openness and kindness we can reach a better place. I don't want anyone to feel ignored or dismissed by me, if I can help it. It's challenging given the high volume of ppl who want me to leave, get the fuck out, suck, eat and/or chew a bag of dicks, etc.
But, it's worth it to find a post like yours with a good suggestion/idea. The threads that broke my - don't engage w/randoms on the internet - policy happens to be on this topic. But, I hope to get to others soon.
Guys, learn to spot a troll. This is one of the more obvious ones I've seen. Wants the board to be a sweeter, more understanding place, but can't figure out how to be sweet and supportive to the members who truly need it (i.e. NOT those looking for "creative" name spellings). C'mon now.
You couldn't be further from the truth.
Being honest I don't have the experience of emotional intelligence to comfort a stranger experiencing a loss is not the same as saying I don't plan to try or be supportive. That was me trying to share with you a failing of mine and something I will have to overcome now that I've chosen to engage more with this forum.
And you mock it... Please remove your defensive -outsider bad- hat and try to see me as a person.
It's cute that you're trying to tell a mod what to do.
As I've read it, there is not special moderator permissions or hierarchy here.
Regardless, I said please. Not b/c she's a moderator but b/c it's polite.
If I said please, would you cut out this self righteous nonsense you are spamming our board with? It's incredible that you contribute absolutely nothing, yet are asking us to change the dynamics of our board. It works. It doesn't work for you, therefore; you should move along so that you don't feel your morals being compromised anymore.
I appreciate that you said please. For my own sanity, I should leave, but I have this overdeveloped sense of moral obligation to do something. It's a flaw, most def. I'm not spamming, I'm responding on topic to posts directed at me.
Again, gentle challenges to the status quo are met with urges to quit.
I hope in future posts we'll be on a different topic where you might find my contributions more valuable.
You are not worth me writing something new I am copying and pasting a response to you in the other thread:
2 posts from you and you are now A15's ambassador and welcome wagon?
by all means please be a part of our community- but make sure to stop by all the threads where T and P are needed and the loss threads and heck even the fun ones where we all have spent months getting to know one and other.
until you have done any of that you are not a member of this community that you so quickly want to bash and dismiss. Until you actually participate in this community like us " mean girls" are doing you can kindly go fuck off and find a bag of dicks to suck on.
Your opinion is less than dirt.
You're arguing against things I never said. It's a strawman.
Anyone who installs the app is technically a member of the community. We can each engage where and how we're able.
I do not appreciate your outright insults. The TOU here are very lax, but I think telling someone to suck a bag of dicks is at least beyond the standard of reasonable behavior. I don't know what else is going on with you and your day..I hope you're okay and that you can feel more at peace.
Oh, FFS. My eyeballs just saw the inside of the nape of my neck they rolled so hard. And with that, I'm done with this troll.
Haha! Sorry... That was an effort at empathy. I told you it's a challenge. (Still rejecting the troll premise, but I can tell you're talking to/about me).
@konaineto - I made home made chili cheese fries that were to die for.
I made chili - ground beef, canned kidney and black beans (not drained), 1 jar of salsa, fajita seasoning, chopped onion. Simmer until delicious.
Then I got a bag of waffle cut fries. I baked those. Threw them on a plate, topped them with mexican blend shredded cheddar and jack cheese, chili and more cheese. They were INCREDIBLE.
@kuchick1 So you have been lurking so much over the last few months but you are finding it difficult to keep up with the one thread that you are actually participating in? You have not lurked enough.
I get where you are coming from. When I originally started on The Bump over 2 years ago I thought it was harsh. I stuck around, actually spent time lurking and learned the most of what I thought was "mean" was actually my own perception of what was said.
I suggest you check out some of the other popular boards on The Bump. Trying to Get Pregnant or Parenting. The tone on April15 is not unique or particularly mean.
Good luck trying to change a culture that is pervasive across The Bump. We, who actually participate regularly, have no interest in changing.
I agree! This is not unique to April 2015. Just starting in the forum I read most often and where my
Also, FYI @kuchick1, we're not the randoms, we're the community. The randoms are the ones that you are WKing for.
You are random internet ppl to me. We're not going to get coffee together. Bi won't be dog sitting for you. I don't typically waste time telling random internet ppl that they should be kinder; I guess today I was weak and decided to ask for civility. In my experience the anonymity of the Internet allows people to say all kinds of things they wouldn't say to a human being in person. I wonder if some of the regulars here forget that newbies are ppl?
@kuchick1 So you have been lurking so much over the last few months but you are finding it difficult to keep up with the one thread that you are actually participating in? You have not lurked enough.
I get where you are coming from. When I originally started on The Bump over 2 years ago I thought it was harsh. I stuck around, actually spent time lurking and learned the most of what I thought was "mean" was actually my own perception of what was said.
I suggest you check out some of the other popular boards on The Bump. Trying to Get Pregnant or Parenting. The tone on April15 is not unique or particularly mean.
Good luck trying to change a culture that is pervasive across The Bump. We, who actually participate regularly, have no interest in changing.
I agree! This is not unique to April 2015. Just starting in the forum I read most often and where my
Also, FYI @kuchick1, we're not the randoms, we're the community. The randoms are the ones that you are WKing for.
You are random internet ppl to me. We're not going to get coffee together. Bi won't be dog sitting for you. I don't typically waste time telling random internet ppl that they should be kinder; I guess today I was weak and decided to ask for civility. In my experience the anonymity of the Internet allows people to say all kinds of things they wouldn't say to a human being in person. I wonder if some of the regulars here forget that newbies are ppl?
I think most regulars would say the same thing in person...we would make the exact same point to people IRL.
Guys, learn to spot a troll. This is one of the more obvious ones I've seen. Wants the board to be a sweeter, more understanding place, but can't figure out how to be sweet and supportive to the members who truly need it (i.e. NOT those looking for "creative" name spellings). C'mon now.
You couldn't be further from the truth.
Being honest I don't have the experience of emotional intelligence to comfort a stranger experiencing a loss is not the same as saying I don't plan to try or be supportive. That was me trying to share with you a failing of mine and something I will have to overcome now that I've chosen to engage more with this forum.
And you mock it... Please remove your defensive -outsider bad- hat and try to see me as a person.
It's cute that you're trying to tell a mod what to do.
As I've read it, there is not special moderator permissions or hierarchy here.
Regardless, I said please. Not b/c she's a moderator but b/c it's polite.
If I said please, would you cut out this self righteous nonsense you are spamming our board with? It's incredible that you contribute absolutely nothing, yet are asking us to change the dynamics of our board. It works. It doesn't work for you, therefore; you should move along so that you don't feel your morals being compromised anymore.
I appreciate that you said please. For my own sanity, I should leave, but I have this overdeveloped sense of moral obligation to do something. It's a flaw, most def. I'm not spamming, I'm responding on topic to posts directed at me.
Again, gentle challenges to the status quo are met with urges to quit.
I hope in future posts we'll be on a different topic where you might find my contributions more valuable.
Sorry, I won't be seeing your contributions. I've decided I should use the ignore feature on you for my own sanity. My moral obligation is telling me I should not feed the troll/condone hair petting, and the misleading of people who really should read a book rather than rely on an online forum for all their baby advice. I apologize if you respond to this and I don't respond.
See, using nice words can still be inflammatory. Which is exactly what you are being.
Ok, now I'm done.
Fwiw, aside from the troll part, I did not find that at all inflammatory. Thanks for your consideration.
I really wasn't going to respond to this, but the more I read the more I feel the need. I'm a newbie. Noone once has been mean to me or made me feel "bullied". In fact very opposite. I've posted 2 discussions and multiple replies and felt nothing less than a community of women helping each other out. If we were to ignore every ignorant, redundant and frankly immature post that comes across, we would never see the ones that matter and mean something. For example the poor women who have lost a baby or are going through serious issues with their LO. If you read those posts you will feel all the support in the world from strangers to strangers.
Fact of the matter is we are strangers, our feelings on names shouldn't matter. We aren't medical experts. We can offer advice from similar situations but we aren't doctors. You mentioned you've been here for 4 months. With all do respect, if you haven't gathered the sense of community in those 4 months, please lurk longer. These women are smart, strong women and have a lot to offer. My apologies to you, if you haven't been able to open your eyes to see that blessing.
I am so happy for you that you are having a great experience. Did I say 4 months? I'm honestly not sure how long it has been. As soon as I got a confirmation of my pregnancy I downloaded every free app I could.
I love that today he's as big as a cauliflower because that is a hilarious unit of measure.
I don't believe in prayer or blessings, so it's hard for me to comfort a stranger going through a loss, but I plan to try. Having broken the seal in posting and having made the decision to engage more with this internet community, I'll have to see where it goes. Probably too far! With two jobs and several volunteer board positions, I'll have to see what I can do. I do see great posts and content, I hope more new people will not be scared off by the loud echo chamber of snark.... They should see the good. With a little help and a lot of humanity, I think they can.?
I call bullshit.
I'm an atheist and I do just fine sending other people messages of support. #notthathard
Sorry to be unclear. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying it's something I personally struggle to know how to do. I'll try to keep an eye out for how you've managed and see what I can learn.
Thanks!
Seriously? "I am so sorry for your loss." "That is so sad." "Thinking of you." "Get well soon."
Maybe if you spent less time policing everyone else's behavior around how to be kind, you would actually have time to figure out how to be kind yourself.
Here's an assignment. Go find any of the 5 or so recent posts (easy to find on the first page) that are asking for support for specific, serious, things. Put your money where your mouth is and take two seconds to write a supportive post.
That's a good idea. I'm trying to be responsive to feedback here first. I want to hear and respond to ppl where I can, so I'm trying to keep up. I really hope that by asking for more openness and kindness we can reach a better place. I don't want anyone to feel ignored or dismissed by me, if I can help it. It's challenging given the high volume of ppl who want me to leave, get the fuck out, suck, eat and/or chew a bag of dicks, etc.
But, it's worth it to find a post like yours with a good suggestion/idea. The threads that broke my - don't engage w/randoms on the internet - policy happens to be on this topic. But, I hope to get to others soon.
Then fucking take it already.
You are being so adamant about not being a troll. So stop being one. Participate in a meaningful way. Seriously, go post one supportive thing somewhere once.
I wrote this long post and then it died. The short version.. I will. right now I'm just trying to keep up and read the posts of ppl who are talking to me. I want you all to feel heard and answered, if applicable. It's a lot & I'm just me. I hate it when ppl post something and then disappear. I think ppl deserve my attention to read and consider what they have to say. Thanks!
Oh, for fucks sake. I start writing a reply, I leave to have lunch with my kids, I come back and finish typing my post and submit it, then I catch up. When the fuck will I learn? Hey, @kuchick1, you can fuck off now, because according to you, you feel bad for all the attention whores, but when called out on the lack of support that you've given up to this point, your explanation is that you struggle with expressing compassion because you're an atheist? That makes no sense, and is really fucking insulting to anyone who is an atheist. "Oh the poor bullied special snowflakes! How awful for them! I should stand up for them! Hey, you all need to be nice. Oh, what? I've not supported anyone? That's because I'm an atheist and therefore don't know how." Fuck. Off. To you and your entire message. Just fuck off.
You're arguing with things I did not say.
I did not say that I haven't posted b/c of any of that. I'm not an atheist even, I just don't believe in prayers or blessings.
I said that I haven't wanted to post here and have just lurked.. Reading the bits I could and ignoring the bad behavior. Today I felt compelled morally to say what I felt and said I plan to post more to help make this a better place.
I really don't appreciate your personal attacks or rudeness. If you want to disagree, that's fine. I was/am only asking people to try to have a more open mind, a more open heart and to consider being kinder to new ppl and to one another. Whatever else is going on for you, the Internet/this forum should not be a cause of angst or anger, for you or others. My hope is for it to be a place of support and caring both for the clique and the new users just starting to find their way.
Let me get the straight, you feel morally compelled to take up for all the people who have been treated "badly". However, you do not feel morally compelled to offer your support for someone going through a tough time?
This? Makes no sense.
@kuchick1 I do not have time for people like you. You aren't as kind as you think you are.
It has to do with the absence of support. I have watched ppl going through tough times receive thoughtful and caring messages of support from ppl far better at that than I, and I want our new ppl to make it far enough into the forum to see the same. The two are not mutually exclusive. I just did not see the same dirth of humanity in those threads.
I was going to attach this to some quoted text but I think we can all figure out who this picture is intended for.
Katy thanks so much for issuing @kuchick1 the first part of her newbie welcoming package. Hope the high horse gets delivered before Christmas! Feed not included. Sorry @kuchick1 I was too busy at my 1 job to get through all your words but clearly you had some time on your hands today. Please forgive me for not being here to welcome you. I would be amiss not to offer you the rest of your welcoming package. Although you seem to be starting off on the right foot and I think you'll have no trouble fitting in. It looks like you are already making friends. Again congrats and best wishes." />
Ha! Hey thanks I totally missed the high horse post. Bfor what it's worth this is a perfectly ordinary size course. If you feel defensive or insecure about that, it's on you not me.
I'm working hard to be patient and give the benefit of the doubt and positive reinforcement. I want try to find common interests where we can to be forward-looking and find opportunities in the future where we might agree.
I'm sorry you were so busy at work today. Have a great evening!
@kuchick1 a bit of advice, just staaahhhhhpp! Coming in here, begging for compassion, is comparable to you going to a neighborhood town hall meeting and begging everyone to be supportive and compassionate neighbors... It doesn't work like that. Like @MrsRexManing suggested, instead of demanding others do it, how about you go be the change you want to see.
Re: OMG!! You guise are soooo mean!!!!
I'm assuming you have a group of friends that you actually enjoy being with and have a good time. I'm assuming it's because you have the same opinions, interests etc. I can't imagine that you found a group of friends and decided hey these people will change for me and abide by my rules! Typically you don't turn to those people. You find people that you click with. These women on this board may not be your cup of tea but as you say, you've been keeping up with us.. You should know by now that we are EACH OTHERS cups of tea. You may find us bitter and needing sugar but hey perhaps that's just your personal taste. And that's fine but don't push your beliefs onto an established group. You (I hope) wouldn't expect that in your "real life". Just because it's the internet and most of us will probably never meet doesn't mean it's not a real relationship that we've formed.
2 posts from you and you are now A15's ambassador and welcome wagon?
by
all means please be a part of our community- but make sure to stop by
all the threads where T and P are needed and the loss threads and heck
even the fun ones where we all have spent months getting to know one and
other.
until you have done any of that you are not a member of
this community that you so quickly want to bash and dismiss. Until you
actually participate in this community like us " mean girls" are doing
you can kindly go fuck off and find a bag of dicks to suck on.
Your opinion is less than dirt.
You're arguing against things I never said. It's a strawman.
Anyone who installs the app is technically a member of the community. We can each engage where and how we're able.
I do not appreciate your outright insults. The TOU here are very lax, but I think telling someone to suck a bag of dicks is at least beyond the standard of reasonable behavior. I don't know what else is going on with you and your day.. I hope you're okay and that you can feel more at peace.
I'm an atheist and I do just fine sending other people messages of support. #notthathard
Sorry to be unclear. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm saying it's something I personally struggle to know how to do. I'll try to keep an eye out for how you've managed and see what I can learn.
Thanks!
Haha. Sorry. I didn't mean to do a humble brag. I couldn't think of a better way to say -I'm swamped - with tons of obligations I cannot avoid). I can wear dirty jeans, but I can't skip appointments).
I will pay for my i attention at work today with a late night getting caught up.. This level of participation is definitely NOT sustainable. Good news for some, I would guess.
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Haha. Sorry. I didn't mean to do a humble brag. I couldn't think of a better way to say -I'm swamped - with tons of obligations I cannot avoid). I can wear dirty jeans, but I can't skip appointments).
I will pay for my i attention at work today with a late night getting caught up.. This level of participation is definitely NOT sustainable. Good news for some, I would guess.
You wouldn't happen to be from the Pacific Northwest by any chance, would you?
BFP 3: 10/26/16//EDD: 7/2/17
One of our regs losing her baby at 20+ weeks is tragic. Another having her water break at just over 20 weeks, putting her twins in danger is tragic. Both of them having gone through hell and back just to conceive and then going through what they're going through is tragic.
Redirecting to BabyCenter the speeshul snowflakes like yourself that prefer glitter and rainbows and contradict themselves in their complaints about this board relative to their own behavior on this board... that is not tragic. That's just all in a day's work around here.
Really, come out from your cave and maybe learn a little about the world, including consulting a dictionary for the definition of the word "tragic" before you call snarky posts and redirecting to BC "tragic."
Be gone now, WK troll.
This. 100% EXACTLY THIS.
(Formerly known as amandastewart51813)
I'm not a troll and strongly oppose trolling. I don't know how else to phrase my earnest desire to improve the experience for new people so they are not shamed into shutting up or leaving, so many people are trying to shut me down today with negativity... I just want more ppl to get beyond the mockery, the rude gifs, and the downright meanness to find the good stuff.
This shouldn't be revolutionary. What about this is so threatening?!
Being honest I don't have the experience of emotional intelligence to comfort a stranger experiencing a loss is not the same as saying I don't plan to try or be supportive. That was me trying to share with you a failing of mine and something I will have to overcome now that I've chosen to engage more with this forum.
And you mock it... Please remove your defensive -outsider bad- hat and try to see me as a person.
I did not say that I haven't posted b/c of any of that. I'm not an atheist even, I just don't believe in prayers or blessings.
I said that I haven't wanted to post here and have just lurked.. Reading the bits I could and ignoring the bad behavior. Today I felt compelled morally to say what I felt and said I plan to post more to help make this a better place.
I really don't appreciate your personal attacks or rudeness. If you want to disagree, that's fine. I was/am only asking people to try to have a more open mind, a more open heart and to consider being kinder to new ppl and to one another. Whatever else is going on for you, the Internet/this forum should not be a cause of angst or anger, for you or others. My hope is for it to be a place of support and caring both for the clique and the new users just starting to find their way.
Regardless, I said please. Not b/c she's a moderator but b/c it's polite.
"I am so sorry for your loss."
"That is so sad."
"Thinking of you."
"Get well soon."
Maybe if you spent less time policing everyone else's behavior around how to be kind, you would actually have time to figure out how to be kind yourself.
Here's an assignment. Go find any of the 5 or so recent posts (easy to find on the first page) that are asking for support for specific, serious, things. Put your money where your mouth is and take two seconds to write a supportive post.
That's a good idea. I'm trying to be responsive to feedback here first. I want to hear and respond to ppl where I can, so I'm trying to keep up. I really hope that by asking for more openness and kindness we can reach a better place. I don't want anyone to feel ignored or dismissed by me, if I can help it. It's challenging given the high volume of ppl who want me to leave, get the fuck out, suck, eat and/or chew a bag of dicks, etc.
But, it's worth it to find a post like yours with a good suggestion/idea. The threads that broke my - don't engage w/randoms on the internet - policy happens to be on this topic. But, I hope to get to others soon.
Again, gentle challenges to the status quo are met with urges to quit.
I hope in future posts we'll be on a different topic where you might find my contributions more valuable.
Anyone who installs the app is technically a member of the community. We can each engage where and how we're able.
I do not appreciate your outright insults. The TOU here are very lax, but I think telling someone to suck a bag of dicks is at least beyond the standard of reasonable behavior. I don't know what else is going on with you and your day.. I hope you're okay and that you can feel more at peace.
Oh, FFS. My eyeballs just saw the inside of the nape of my neck they rolled so hard. And with that, I'm done with this troll.
Haha! Sorry... That was an effort at empathy. I told you it's a challenge. (Still rejecting the troll premise, but I can tell you're talking to/about me).
I made chili - ground beef, canned kidney and black beans (not drained), 1 jar of salsa, fajita seasoning, chopped onion. Simmer until delicious.
Then I got a bag of waffle cut fries. I baked those. Threw them on a plate, topped them with mexican blend shredded cheddar and jack cheese, chili and more cheese. They were INCREDIBLE.
<a href="http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=HTML&utm_campaign=tickers" title="Trying to Conceive"><img src="http://global.thebump.com/tickers/tt1d63ef" alt=" Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker" border="0" /></a>
<a href="http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=ticker&utm_medium=HTML&utm_campaign=tickers" title="Parenting Advice"><img src="http://global.thebump.com/tickers/tt1d63f0" alt=" Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker" border="0" /></a>
But, it's worth it to find a post like yours with a good suggestion/idea. The threads that broke my - don't engage w/randoms on the internet - policy happens to be on this topic. But, I hope to get to others soon.
Then fucking take it already.
You are being so adamant about not being a troll. So stop being one. Participate in a meaningful way. Seriously, go post one supportive thing somewhere once.
I wrote this long post and then it died. The short version.. I will. right now I'm just trying to keep up and read the posts of ppl who are talking to me. I want you all to feel heard and answered, if applicable. It's a lot & I'm just me. I hate it when ppl post something and then disappear. I think ppl deserve my attention to read and consider what they have to say. Thanks!
Dearth*
November Siggy Challenge: Selfie Fails
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November Siggy Challenge: Selfie Fails
Hidden for the sake of your eyes!
I'm working hard to be patient and give the benefit of the doubt and positive reinforcement. I want try to find common interests where we can to be forward-looking and find opportunities in the future where we might agree.
I'm sorry you were so busy at work today. Have a great evening!
November Siggy Challenge: Selfie Fails
Hidden for the sake of your eyes!
Also, I really need cheese fries now!