Unpopular Opinions---Put them here

Mandmeesh · December 2014

stoneycakes said:

AFwifelife said:

I can't believe there is a WK for a 9 month old on an ATV.

Technically, it was a golf cart.

And he's 10 months. Get it right!

stoneycakes · December 2014

Chickypoo2468 said:

farmrsboywife said:

I'm not sure if you kids think I GBCB or not. I promise my kids are properly restrained in my vehicle as I travel home. Just popping in to say the assumptions you guys made are entertaining. All I'm trying to say is I'm not going to get worked up over shit like that. And if you want to think I learned a lesson or not that's up to you. Edit: I'm on a 4 day trip/tour of seeing family.

What assumptions were those?
This is what I wondered. But then I realized I didn't care.

But I care, though. Stop being a wretched B

Into+the+Kitty · December 2014

stoneycakes said:

Chickypoo2468 said:

farmrsboywife said:

I'm not sure if you kids think I GBCB or not. I promise my kids are properly restrained in my vehicle as I travel home. Just popping in to say the assumptions you guys made are entertaining. All I'm trying to say is I'm not going to get worked up over shit like that. And if you want to think I learned a lesson or not that's up to you. Edit: I'm on a 4 day trip/tour of seeing family.

What assumptions were those?
This is what I wondered. But then I realized I didn't care.

But I care, though. Stop being a wretched B

Isn't that what I said with my gif? Nobody cares. I didn't think I could be any clearer that Stoneycakes cares.

stoneycakes · December 2014

Stineycakes, huh?

Into+the+Kitty · December 2014

Stiney, I'm trying to NAK right now. You're lucky I didn't just call you Nobody again.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

Smallllmin said:
I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but I am so done with these protesters.

What is the point of people getting randomly violent at cops that had nothing to do with these incidents? And now you're all marching to the bridge to... stop traffic and... be annoying...? Proving... what?

Violence is wrong. But you're conflating two different things. Peaceful protests that disrupt traffic are one thing. The riots were unfortunate but they did accomplish getting the country to talk about some important issues. I know that it's easy to dismiss these protests and the ideas they're presenting, but they're very important issues that deserve attention. As far as what they're accomplishing I can think of a few times in our nations history that disrupting traffic got some shit done.

I'm not trying to pile on but there's more to this than you realize.

stoneycakes · December 2014

Into+the+Kitty said:

Stiney, I'm trying to NAK right now. You're lucky I didn't just call you Nobody again.

What part of your body are you typing with because it's clearly not your hand.

Into+the+Kitty · December 2014

stoneycakes said:

Into+the+Kitty said:

Stiney, I'm trying to NAK right now. You're lucky I didn't just call you Nobody again.

What part of your body are you typing with because it's clearly not your hand.

Well I did that one on purpose, in case you missed the genius of my subtleties.

I am, in fact, typing with my other boob though. I just kind of flop it down onto my iPad and hope the shattered screen doesn't do any permanent damage.

stoneycakes · December 2014

Into+the+Kitty said:

stoneycakes said:

Into+the+Kitty said:

Stiney, I'm trying to NAK right now. You're lucky I didn't just call you Nobody again.

What part of your body are you typing with because it's clearly not your hand.

Well I did that one on purpose, in case you missed the genius of my subtleties.

I am, in fact, typing with my other boob though. I just kind of flop it down onto my iPad and hope the shattered screen doesn't do any permanent damage.

LLOL! It's no worse than a bad latch, I'm sure.

Smallllmin · December 2014

Rrrrrachel said:

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but I am so done with these protesters.

What is the point of people getting randomly violent at cops that had nothing to do with these incidents? And now you're all marching to the bridge to... stop traffic and... be annoying...? Proving... what?

Violence is wrong. But you're conflating two different things. Peaceful protests that disrupt traffic are one thing. The riots were unfortunate but they did accomplish getting the country to talk about some important issues. I know that it's easy to dismiss these protests and the ideas they're presenting, but they're very important issues that deserve attention. As far as what they're accomplishing I can think of a few times in our nations history that disrupting traffic got some shit done. I'm not trying to pile on but there's more to this than you realize.

You're not piling on, I was offering a UO, and you're rebutting it.

Only time will tell if this one remains peaceful, but innocent cops keep getting hurt as a result of these (at one time) peaceful protests.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

I guess I'm not sure which peaceful protests have resulted in cops getting injured. People rioting, sure. But the marches?

freezorburn · December 2014

ITK you have got to get that glass screen replaced. I would hate to learn that you injured your boob while typing on it.

redrockmama · December 2014

Rrrrrachel said:

I have no idea if this is a popular or unpopular opinion, but I am so done with these protesters.

What is the point of people getting randomly violent at cops that had nothing to do with these incidents? And now you're all marching to the bridge to... stop traffic and... be annoying...? Proving... what?

Violence is wrong. But you're conflating two different things. Peaceful protests that disrupt traffic are one thing. The riots were unfortunate but they did accomplish getting the country to talk about some important issues. I know that it's easy to dismiss these protests and the ideas they're presenting, but they're very important issues that deserve attention. As far as what they're accomplishing I can think of a few times in our nations history that disrupting traffic got some shit done. I'm not trying to pile on but there's more to this than you realize.

ditto times 5. There are also a lot of cops who have gotten violent towards and killed innocent people...just sayin.

Smallllmin · December 2014

Rrrrrachel said:

I guess I'm not sure which peaceful protests have resulted in cops getting injured. People rioting, sure. But the marches?

Here

Mandmeesh · December 2014

stoneycakes said:

Chickypoo2468 said:

stoneycakes said:
Everyone knows you don't upset Meesh. She will rain a shit storm upon you the likes of which will make you wish you were never born.
Huh. Apparently I need to work on my wrath.

You know I was being sarcastic, right? Is my sarcastic font off today?

Lol. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I said something like "I feel like I should be offended..."

stoneycakes · December 2014

Mandmeesh said:

Chickypoo2468 said:

Everyone knows you don't upset Meesh. She will rain a shit storm upon you the likes of which will make you wish you were never born.
Huh. Apparently I need to work on my wrath.

You know I was being sarcastic, right? Is my sarcastic font off today?
Lol. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I said something like "I feel like I should be offended..."

This is the gateway sentence to getting people to stop CDing, though. Ask ITK.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

Smallllmin said:

Rrrrrachel said:

I guess I'm not sure which peaceful protests have resulted in cops getting injured. People rioting, sure. But the marches?

Here

w That's really unfortunate. I hate to hear about officers getting injured. It was an act of a few people at a much larger protest, though. if that's your take away or the headline than i think that says a lot about what the problem is.

Kelly11235 · December 2014

Disrupting traffic is one thing but shutting down a major highway, like happened near San Francisco...that's just a-hole move.

They're lucky nobody died in traffic waiting for their protest to break up.

Smallllmin · December 2014

Kelly11235 said:

Disrupting traffic is one thing but shutting down a major highway, like happened near San Francisco...that's just a-hole move.
They're lucky nobody died in traffic waiting for their protest to break up.

WSS.

I don't consider blocking the bridge to be "peaceful" for exactly this reason. If an ambulance needed to get through, it would be a big problem. Heck, it barely happens when there's not a crowd of people on the bridge.

Obviously protesting and getting people to talk about important issues is essential to creating change. But I don't know why blocking the Brooklyn bridge would be the only way to make that happen. The news outlets are so desperate for stories, they would be covering it just as hard if there were ten people standing on a hill with the same agenda.

Smallllmin · December 2014

stringy813 said:

Maybe they have been protesting for weeks, years, decades and nothing has changed. So they should just quit and go home??

Did I ever allude to this?
...Just get off the effing highways and stop hurting innocent people.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

im not really articulate enough to explain the issues involved. I think I used To be once upon a time, but no more. I blame the kids. If you're willing to do some reading on your own I think you might realize that your comments are really privileged and naive. I'm not saying that to pick a fight or anything, but just as a statement of fact.

Smallllmin · December 2014

stringy813 said:

They are fighting for a whole lot of people who have been wrongly killed. So the whole "someone innocent could die" thing is a little late. It happens all the time. That's the problem.

I'm not sticking up for the people who did something wrong in the first place... but hurting more people in reaction to being hurt is not the right thing to do. Sorry.

And @Rrrrrachel‌ , you wouldn't be making "a statement of fact" if you weren't trying to pick a fight. You know nothing about me. But that's ok, you win.

stoneycakes · December 2014

Smallllmin said:

Kelly11235 said:

Disrupting traffic is one thing but shutting down a major highway, like happened near San Francisco...that's just a-hole move.
They're lucky nobody died in traffic waiting for their protest to break up.

WSS.

I don't consider blocking the bridge to be "peaceful" for exactly this reason. If an ambulance needed to get through, it would be a big problem. Heck, it barely happens when there's not a crowd of people on the bridge.

Obviously protesting and getting people to talk about important issues is essential to creating change. But I don't know why blocking the Brooklyn bridge would be the only way to make that happen. The news outlets are so desperate for stories, they would be covering it just as hard if there were ten people standing on a hill with the same agenda.

This is incorrect.

Into+the+Kitty · December 2014

Smallllmin said:

stringy813 said:

They are fighting for a whole lot of people who have been wrongly killed. So the whole "someone innocent could die" thing is a little late. It happens all the time. That's the problem.

I'm not sticking up for the people who did something wrong in the first place... but hurting more people in reaction to being hurt is not the right thing to do. Sorry.

And @Rrrrrachel‌ , you wouldn't be making "a statement of fact" if you weren't trying to pick a fight. You know nothing about me. But that's ok, you win.

I don't think there's an eye roll gif worthy enough.

Smallllmin · December 2014

stringy813 said:

stringy813 said:

They are fighting for a whole lot of people who have been wrongly killed. So the whole "someone innocent could die" thing is a little late. It happens all the time. That's the problem.

I'm not sticking up for the people who did something wrong in the first place... but hurting more people in reaction to being hurt is not the right thing to do. Sorry.

And @Rrrrrachel‌ , you wouldn't be making "a statement of fact" if you weren't trying to pick a fight. You know nothing about me. But that's ok, you win.
I am not one to say that violence is ever the answer. But you have to admit that our white privileged society isn't going to change without it. If writing to your congressperson was going to make change happen here it would have happened ages ago. So what do you suggest people do that might actually get people to not only listen but change their behavior?

People need to be educated. Most privileged white people have no idea how deeply engrained the oppression of black people is in our country. White Americans just plain do not understand cumulative disadvantage. If they had a better understanding, both sides would be able to have more constructive conversations.

As far as the uneducated are concerned, they turn on the news and they see riots, violence, protests, property disruption, people disrupting traffic (protesting being well within their rights), and it only deepens the divide.

I would never suggest that they are not justified in feeling frustrated, angry, hopeless... but these mass public displays of noncompliance are not the way to reach the individuals whom they are trying to reach. It makes it worse.

Do I have the perfect answer? Obviously I wouldn't be sitting here on TB if I knew how to change the face of racism. But I know people need more education, and I also know that violence and even peaceful protests are not the best ways to change minds.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

@Smallllmin‌ it's not actually about you. But I think it's important when you hear people talking in a way that's completely ignorant of social justice issues to call it what it is. I'm really not trying to pick a fight with you but I feel it's important to stand up and at least say "no, that's not how it is." Just like I would if I heard someone talking about how a woman who was sexually harassed in a work place couldn't take a joke and why was she making a big deal out of it and causing so much trouble.

Smallllmin · December 2014

Rrrrrachel said:

@Smallllmin‌ it's not actually about you. But I think it's important when you hear people talking in a way that's completely ignorant of social justice issues to call it what it is. I'm really not trying to pick a fight with you but I feel it's important to stand up and at least say "no, that's not how it is." Just like I would if I heard someone talking about how a woman who was sexually harassed in a work place couldn't take a joke and why was she making a big deal out of it and causing so much trouble.

Okie dokie ;-)

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Smallllmin · December 2014

stringy813 said:

I would never disagree with education over violence. I just don't believe it will ever happen.

Nor do I.
Still doesn't condone violence.

Rrrrrachel · December 2014

Nobody condones violence. But you're lumping everyone at the protest in with the tiny fraction who were violent. How is that any better than lumping all police officers in with the ones who use excessive force? Do you realize that a black man is twenty one times more likely to be shot in an interaction with police than a white man? The catch phrase "black lives matter" isn't just over dramatic or hyperbole. Sorry some people had to sit in traffic.

You're being willfully ignorant.