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Dear Diary: I'm a selfish bitch

edited December 2014 in June 2015 Moms
So, we are living as expats in the UK and had arranged for husband's parents and my mom and sister to fly over for Christmas this year. My dad passed away in June and we really wanted to spend Christmas with both families and since his is in New Mexico and mine is in Houston, this seemed a good way to do it and get them all a European vacation at the same time. Plus, my mom was really wanting to have a different Christmas than their traditional one since this will be the first without my dad. So, after months of discussion with everyone and everyone in agreement, we bought his parents tickets, and my mom was able to buy hers and my sister's.

Now, in the background while all these months of discussion are happening, his dad is gradually becoming more and more reliant on oxygen. I ask why. Husband doesn't know. Apparently his parents don't know. We insist they get to the doctor asap. His doctor's either don't care or his parents won't say. Regardless, the doctor prescribes a portable oxygen concentrator that he can travel with. Fine. We think it's resolved for now.

Then, over the weekend, MIL had to take FIL to an urgent care. They say his lungs are clear. They go to their real doctor yesterday and he says the same, but notes how much his o2 levels dropped just walking from the reception desk to his office. Says maybe it's his heart, recommends he not travel. FIL is about 400 lbs and has ignored everyone and every doctor for years who have told him he needs to lose weight. He laughs about it in fact.

So, now my husband is trying to decide whether and when he should fly over there to see them. And I agree that he should.

But here's the thing...I don't want to go. I'm already off work for that time since they were supposed to be here several days before my family, but I don't feel up for over 14 hours of travel. I just got back from an international business trip that seriously did me in, and I'm supposed to have my first ultrasound during that time.

Plus, my dad was fighting cancer for the last two years and I made a lot of trips back by myself, and in the first half of this year alone I made the trips alone. He did come with me twice right at the very end and then for the funeral. But there is also a part of me that it's really scared, because it feels a little like deja vu...in June a week before my dad died, I went back and told my dad I was pregnant, and then immediately after I flew back I lost the baby. We are nearly twelve weeks now but without a scan or heartbeat that I have seen our heard, I still don't feel that confident. And I just don't think I can do it!

But alas, I still feel like a selfish bitch for not wanting to go and also feeling like our Christmas plans are spoiled. I know his dad is sick, and I don't want anything to happen to him, but WHY wait so long to see a fucking doctor?!

Rant over. Sorry, dear diary.

Re: Dear Diary: I'm a selfish bitch

  • You're not a selfish bitch.  You're trying to do what is best for your family.  I know holiday plans are a tough thing to change, but looking back this will be like a blip on the radar.  We were home for Christmas last year because I was majorly preggo, and while I actually secretly enjoyed that, I missed being with family.  It's one year.  Baby's health and your father in law's health should come first.  Don't feel obligated to go...just don't.  Will your husband understand?
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  • First, I am so sorry about your dad.
    Second, this may sound bitchy so I apologize but his dad chose to wait that long to see a Dr and ignored the weight loss recommendations..so lack of planning on his part should constitute as an emergency on yours? I don't think so. And you have your mom coming to visit. She probably needs the get away over the holidays more than she knows especially if it's the first one without your dad. She probably needs the distraction. And you shouldn't travel after what happened last time you did..even if it is just for peace of mind. If you did that trip a bunch on your own he can do the same
  • That is a really tough decision. Maybe your husband will understand that it makes you nervous to make that flight. He is probably scared now too so I get that he would want you with him. No advice but I don't think you are being selfish.
  • Two things: 1. You're not being selfish. And 2. No, you're really not being selfish at all.

    I agree with PP's and am so sorry for everything you've been through. I think discussing your concerns regarding traveling in relation to what happened after traveling to see your father would help him to understand why you'd prefer to stay home, without insulting him or making it sound like you're insensitive to his FIL's health condition. Like people have said before, this is only one year, and it's not ideal, but it's most important for you to take care of yourself, your DH to spend time with his dad, and you to be there for your mom, as I'm sure this year will be tough for her.

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  • #1) You are not a selfish bitch.  You need to think about yourself and your baby first and foremost right now.  I would say that you just cannot do a 14 hour flight right now unless it is 100% necessary (for example, god forbid, but if his dad took a major turn for the worse).  Your husband should understand, hopefully.  Let him go for a visit, and you stay home and enjoy your time with your mom and sister.  

    #2) I am so sorry.  You have been through so much in such a small amount of time.  So many hugs to you.  

    #3) It almost sounds like your FIL has congestive heart failure, which if caught, can be treated fairly well.  He needs to push his doctors for a diagnosis of something.  




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  • I'm a selfish bitch, and I sure wouldn't risk my health or the baby's for someone who obviously doesn't care about his own health or how his actions will affect his family if I were in your shoes. I have to admit, I'm a little on edge about parents like this right now tho: my close friend just lost her mother, whom we found out knew for TWO YEARS that she had breast cancer. She could easily have been treated due to her early diagnosis but she chose to ignore it and hide it from her family because she "doesn't like doctors". When her symptoms finally became bad enough that she couldn't hide them from her family, she had developed 3 other types of cancers and had 3 months to live. This is a woman who had a nice husband, two daughters and two son in laws in the area, and three grandchildren whom she babysat every day since they were babies. She passed away a couple months ago and the whole family is a wreck esp the kids (my friend's son is 2 yrs old and asks for his grandma every day). SOOO....that bring said, I have low tolerance for parents who don't take care of themselves for their kids' sakes! If I were you, I'd enjoy Christmas with your mom and sis, and let DH do whatever he needs to do.
  • Yeah my question is your fam still coming? You're NOT selfish. This isn't a quick 2 hour flight. You have been through so much and the holidays will already be a tough one for you and your family. I think you should go ahead with your origional plans and spend Christmas with your mom and sister and make it special and different, they are going to be having a tough time too I'm sure. Let hubby go... As he should. But you really don't need to be there (not sounding bitchy, but you know what I mean).
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    Thank you all so much for the reassurance. This has been an extremely hard year. My husband isn't pressuring me really, it's mostly my own feelings of guilt at play, knowing that I'll be off work for a week sitting at home before my family arrives when I could use that time to go back. But one week with 14 hours each way doesnt quite feel like long enough after what happened last time to warrant the risk and fear.

    That said, he's waffling about going without me because he says it's all that time away from me and blah blah blah, which is sweet but only makes me feel worse since I know he should go. And he may miss the first scan, which is sad, but...Well we can thank the NHS for that and the fact that they haven't even booked it yet. We were also really looking forward to telling both families about the pregnancy together and now that won't really be possible, but it's not the end of the world.

    I really appreciate all of you for taking the time to read my super long rant and reassure me.
  • Yeah my question is your fam still coming? You're NOT selfish. This isn't a quick 2 hour flight. You have been through so much and the holidays will already be a tough one for you and your family. I think you should go ahead with your origional plans and spend Christmas with your mom and sister and make it special and different, they are going to be having a tough time too I'm sure. Let hubby go... As he should. But you really don't need to be there (not sounding bitchy, but you know what I mean).

    My fam is still coming. That's basically non-negotiable. But there is the one week before they arrive that I could travel.
  • I've been in your shoes, kind of.

    First, let me say I'm so sorry for your loss.  The holidays are so difficult that first year.  And it's going to be really hard for your mom.  It would be hard for her to be home alone, but it's also going to be hard for her to "do something different."  Because let's face it, everything is different for her since your father has died,  And I'm sure each day has its own challenges.  We did something similar after my father died, my mom came with us away for the holiday.  We didn't even celebrate Christmas, but it was really difficult for her to be around other families, other happy people when she was still grieving.  I'm telling you this only so that if she seems distant, or sad, you have some preparation for it. 

    Second, my FIL died in June 2013.  He had some major health concerns that the family wasn't taking seriously.  (He basically went blind overnight, had some dementia, was combative and peeing in closets and they just dismissed it as "he's getting old.")  It took my husband flying up there to get him into a hospital where they diagnosed him with a series of strokes.  At the time, I wasn't pregnant, but we did have an 18 month old, so travel wasn't easy.  And so my husband went up to deal with the medical issues of his father himself. And he ended up staying until after his father died a couple weeks later.  I think it's important for your husband to go and see what's going on with his father, and as I'm sure you can appreciate, having lost your own father, spend as much time with him as he can.  But I also don't think it's imperative that you go.  You have a lot on your plate this year, and if his health improves, you will see him soon.  If his health continues to decline, you will need to make a trip out anyway. 
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  • This does not count as you being selfish or a bitch. Just so you know, this would be hard for anyone and I can tell that you are a strong person, but make sure you take care of yourself and what you need. It sucks, but I bet we all know someone dealing with a totally preventable illness and we just look at them like, "WTF are you doing?!" I'd say, try not to judge and above all, do your best to support your hubby right now. If that means flying out with him, and you can do it, just do it. You're supporting DH, not FIL's bad habits and resulting illness. Also, I'd say to get ready to be flexible this holiday season, but make sure you're comfortable and are taking care of yourself through it all. I'm sure it'll be great when your mom finally makes it over though!

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  • Yeah my question is your fam still coming? You're NOT selfish. This isn't a quick 2 hour flight. You have been through so much and the holidays will already be a tough one for you and your family. I think you should go ahead with your origional plans and spend Christmas with your mom and sister and make it special and different, they are going to be having a tough time too I'm sure. Let hubby go... As he should. But you really don't need to be there (not sounding bitchy, but you know what I mean).

    My fam is still coming. That's basically non-negotiable. But there is the one week before they arrive that I could travel.
    Don't worry about not going - like PPs have mentioned, if it gets worse I'm sure you'll be out there but while they are in the diagnostic stage there isn't much that can be done. DH should go without you and spend some times with his parents and help advocate for his dad with the doctors.

    As for announcing - you can still tell them all at the same time with Skype. I know it's not the same as in person but you do what you've got to do.

  • *hugs* I agree with everyone here, I think you should stay. And I'm glad that your husband essentially seems to understand and support the decision. He should definitely go, though. He would have a lot of regret if he missed this opportunity. Best of luck to you and your family. I'll keep you in my thoughts.
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  • That is some rough stuff, I am sorry to hear your going through all this. When it rains, it pours. I agree with PP that you should stay home and wait for your family and DH should go see his. I think the holidays, family, loss and medical issues are enough stress...don't add international travel onto it...and plus...your dealing with pregnancy stress every day. I don't think you should feel any guilt at all and I hope that everything turns out to be fine and you have a good holiday and a great pregnancy.


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  • I'm so sorry about your dad, I cried when I read your post. Cancer seriously is the worst, I hate it. I'm sure your husband will be understanding of you staying. Traveling is stressful and you don't need that right now. I hope everything works itself out easily!
  • I have nothing to add that PP haven't already said, but I think it would help me to have another person reinforce it, especially since I get so guilty about things, so here you are:
    You are not being selfish. You have excellent reasons not to go and it's better for you and the baby not to go. 
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  • I'm very sorry for the loss of your father.
    As an American living in Europe, I understand how long those flights are and how much you want to be there to support your family (even in-laws). But you dont need to go. While your FIL doesnt sound like he's in the best of health, I also dont think he's in the worst of health. I think the doctor wanted to be safe and restrict him from a long flight and risks of infection or complications, but I doubt he's at a level of illness that requires you to cancel your holidays or stress-out while pregnant. And sadly, I've been to London in December, it's very dark (sunset at 4pm) and dreary so maybe staying in the Southwest might be good for his health, if he goes outside. There will be a time in the future when you do need to make that trip, this is probably not it.
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  • First and foremost my condolences for your loss. You are not being selfish at all. I'm so sorry to hear about your current conundrum. I will echo what many have previously stated and say that you should stay and take care of yourself. Your family will be there and you can focus on making it an awesome holiday with them. I'm also sorry to hear about the health complications with your FIL, however, as long as you can emotionally support your DH he should understand that your physical presence is not required on his trip home. I'm wishing the best for you and baby and hope you have a Happy Holidays!
  • I don't feel like you are being a bitch. It sounds like your FIL should have known that something like this was coming, which makes me kind of...well I don't have any pity for people who don't listen to professional advice.

    That said, if your DH really needs your support then that's where you should be coming from. If your FIL is likely okay just not able to travel (i.e. this isn't going to be the last chance for you to spend time with him) and your DH is fine with going alone then I wouldn't go if I were you.
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