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  • AshleypixieAshleypixie member
    Yes, leaving an infant in front of a TV or within a gated confine because you need some "me time" is not a practice I suggest any mom to follow. If the TV is on in the same room as your baby or if a couple minutes of doodlebops grabs the attention of your toddler so you can talk to the electrician, or put clothes on, then hey. Cool. This isn't as much of a hot button issue for me as it is for you. I didn't do any research to back up my point of view, but I found this article that you might be interested in. It might enlighten you to find something other than screen time to get all hyped about, perhaps? https://www.alternet.org/drugs/why-smoking-weed-makes-me-better-mom
     






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  • chichi589chichi589 member
    edited November 2014
    I hate baby fences. I get it.. Safety. Easier. But come on teach your kid not to grab things they shouldn't. Off topic I know.
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    eme520 said:

    @chichi589


    chichi589 said:

    I hate baby fences. I get it.. Safety. Easier. But come on teach your kid not to grab things they shouldn't. Off topic I know.

    This is one of the most misinformed statements I've seen on TB. You can't "teach" babies not to grab certain things, it's just not cognitively possible this early. Or perhaps I'm misreading this and you meant something different?


    This. Good luck with that.
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  • chichi589chichi589 member
    edited November 2014
    @eme520‌ @juniper75‌ The most misinformed statement you have ever saw on the bump? I disagree, there has been a lot of stupidity on there but me teaching my child what he can and can't touch is not one of them.

    I have a 2 1/2 year old that knows what she can and can't touch. This is not my first child to go through this and I have absolutely 100% taught her what she can and can't touch. Of course it depends on your Intrepretation on "teaching". Me sitting there and saying "no don't touch that" or showing her something she can't touch of COURSE will not work. By redirecting her to doing other things, keeping her busy with her own toys, watching her that when she gets near things she shouldn't be moving her. That to me is teaching because in the long run your child WILL learn. Your child will do as you let them. Being on top of things early is beneficial. My children don't sit in play pens or gates to play. They have free range of the house & do learn what they can and can't touch. We have the stairs gated for safety but even that I have taught her to not go near it. She doesn't touch an outside door without an adult around. She doesn't go into the bathroom without an adult around. Those are things she's known very early, all things she's been taught.

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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    There is a big difference between teaching a toddler and an infant. Redirecting is not teaching them not to touch something it is physically intervening - you become the barrier not the gate. Your statement implied you could teach a baby not to touch something which is just not possible.
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    Oh and when I said this - I meant the cognitive part not the first part. I should have bolded or been more clear.
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  • Liane28Liane28 member
    chichi589 said:

    @eme520‌ @juniper75‌ The most misinformed statement you have ever saw on the bump? I disagree, there has been a lot of stupidity on there but me teaching my child what he can and can't touch is not one of them.

    I have a 2 1/2 year old that knows what she can and can't touch. This is not my first child to go through this and I have absolutely 100% taught her what she can and can't touch. Of course it depends on your Intrepretation on "teaching". Me sitting there and saying "no don't touch that" or showing her something she can't touch of COURSE will not work. By redirecting her to doing other things, keeping her busy with her own toys, watching her that when she gets near things she shouldn't be moving her. That to me is teaching because in the long run your child WILL learn. Your child will do as you let them. Being on top of things early is beneficial. My children don't sit in play pens or gates to play. They have free range of the house & do learn what they can and can't touch. We have the stairs gated for safety but even that I have taught her to not go near it. She doesn't touch an outside door without an adult around. She doesn't go into the bathroom without an adult around. Those are things she's known very early, all things she's been taught.

    I agree that you can absolutely "teach" your baby things. I have done this with my daughter and she is 7 months. She knows not to touch our heaters
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    juniper75 said:

    There is a big difference between teaching a toddler and an infant. Redirecting is not teaching them not to touch something it is physically intervening - you become the barrier not the gate. Your statement implied you could teach a baby not to touch something which is just not possible.

    What? Redirecting is exactly how you begin to teach young toddlers not to touch something. You know what happens after you redirect them day after day? Eventually they stop touching it! That's a kind of teaching. Redirection usually starts as soon as a child is mobile. 

    This exactly!
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    Do you really think you have taught them not to touch things or have you distracted them with redirection until they have lost interest.

    I know redirection works to teach toddlers - I have one. We were talking babies here
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  • chichi589chichi589 member
    I'm not sure how by redirecting an infant to not do something is not teaching. I taught Karsyn as a baby what she can and can't touch. She is now a toddler who knows exactly the rules. If we didn't start young she wouldn't be as good as she is today I can guarantee that. We started this young with her as well. Pretty much as soon as they start moving around you have to start or else you are putting your child in danger. Just like the heater comment above, you redirect and that teaches your baby to stay away. I'm not being a barrier because I'm not there all the time. Eventually they learn to stay away without a barrier in between.
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    You are making my point - your toddler knows not to touch but didn't as a baby.

    I supposed I shouldn't have said it isn't teaching - its still teaching but it is a lesson they can not have "learned" and understood as a baby. Would you really leave a baby alone in a room with something "dangerous" that you have taught them not to touch and trust that they will not touch it? I wouldn't. That's why some people need to use gates and/or fences.
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  • chichi589chichi589 member
    @juniper75‌
    I never said she didn't know as a baby. I said she knows perfectly now and when she was a baby is when we were teaching & redirecting. Of course nothing happens overnight, but when she was a baby she absolutely was learning what she could and couldn't touch.

    To answer your question yes I think it's teaching when they gradually learn something over time but that's my opinion. I think it's your definition of teaching personally, do you learn something if you do the same thing over and over again? Yes.
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    We are running in circles here. I already corrected myself and agreed that it is still teaching.
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  • Nik102Nik102 member
    I think infants have the potential to learn to not touch or stay away from certain things. We have been saying "no" and "don't touch" to DS for a few weeks. Now when he goes for something off limits and I say no he stops and occasionally even pouts and cries about it. Now when he goes to try and touch something he's been told not to multiple times before he turns and looks at me I don't even have to say no and he redirects himself to something else. I'm not claiming he knows the definition of the word No but he's learning that it applies to certain objects and actions. You can't "babyproof" your child's entire life. I'm trying to start teaching him the correct behavior rather than simply "preventing" him from doing/touching something. Obviously this doesn't apply to chemicals and other very dangerous items. My mother who has 5 kids and 4 grandkids was surprised at LOs reaction to when I said no. He was trying to crawl out of the room I said no he immediately turned around and came back to his toys. Every child is different and will learn in their own way but I agree we need to teach them not to do things rather than simply preventing and this should start when they are infants.
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    I was starting to type a long response about conditioning versus learning/understanding and then @eme520 came back and I realized if people are going to debate on a topic like this with someone with her credentials, nothing I say is going to get us anywhere...lol
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  • Nik102Nik102 member
    Are we not in a stage where infants began to understand cause and effect?? I agree that a baby doesn't understand language and the meaning of words but they are constantly absorbing information and learning to apply it to their everyday life. For example if every time baby touches a specific thing mom says no and directs them back to toys. I'm not try argue just trying to become more informed on the topic. I get DS has no clue what No actually means but is the learned behavior that follows such a bad thing?? I just want to make it clear that I do not just walk around thinking because I told my child no that I do not have to worry about him getting into things. I'm always watching and preventing him from touching off limit things.
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    Vinny424 said:

    Who knew baby play yards would be the next kid leash, I never though I'd be side eyed for that.

    Seriously...what really bugged me is the "never would I ever" style comment implying that someone who has a playpen is doing subpar parenting. Just like toddler leashes, U DON'T KNOW OUR LYFES. I really want play gates 'cause sometimes my kid is content to just play, and it only takes him 2 seconds while I'm in the kitchen to get into EVERYTHING. I shudder to think about how it'll be when he starts crawling.

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  • AshleypixieAshleypixie member
    Why's everything I say get all twisted? I don't communicate very well but what I say is never all that panty bunching. I never said play pens made anyone a subpar parent. Sorry if you're offended but I clearly didn't get my point across. Fuck.
     






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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    Ashleypixie said:

    Why's everything I say get all twisted? I don't communicate very well but what I say is never all that panty bunching. I never said play pens made anyone a subpar parent. Sorry if you're offended but I clearly didn't get my point across. Fuck.

    I don't think she was refering to your post
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  • AshleypixieAshleypixie member
    juniper75 said:
    Why's everything I say get all twisted? I don't communicate very well but what I say is never all that panty bunching. I never said play pens made anyone a subpar parent. Sorry if you're offended but I clearly didn't get my point across. Fuck.
    I don't think she was refering to your post

    Oh. Ok then. Never mind if I got it twisted. I was the first to bring it up. This whole topic makes me want to beat myself with a hammer.
     






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  • RoufiRoufi member
    I wasn't referring to your comment @Ashleypixie‌
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    Ashleypixie said:

    Oh good! My toe nail fell off today and I was like, HOW MUCH MORE SHIT CAN I TAKE

    Ow and ew!!!

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  • LaBelle0412LaBelle0412 member
    We burn a woodstove that can get to 700 degrees. Plus the whole stove area has iron tools, wood, kindling, etc., rock hearth. There wasn't really a choice about doing a fence around the area once she started planking all over it as far as I could see. It is ugly, but my baby is safe and can cruise the room without worry. Do others not gate in these situations?
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  • juniper75juniper75 member
    We have three gates in our house that basically fence the kids into the main living areas and away from the stairs.  Within that area - kitchen, front room, living room and dining room they can travel freely.  I do also have a playpen in the front room that is mostly just used to store stuff but the intent is that I can drop the baby in it if I have to leave out of sight and dont want the two kids alone together.

    We do have a woodstove at the cottage and we have a gate surrounding it so no one can get near.  I am not really concerned about my toddler touching it as much as tripping while she runs by and potentially falling on it.
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