June 2015 Moms

c-section or Vag !!!

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  • First time mamma here! Scary to read. I'm just gonna go with gas and air I think. But hopefully I don't need a c-section. I am worried for my vag tho.. She'll go through some trauma hopefully she'll get back to her normal self. I'm two months tomorrow. While before labour yet. More time to prepare!
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  • @mamahawk12‌ what are you talking about? Everyone on this thread is getting along fine and having great conversations about past and present issues. Please dont comment if you are not going to add to the conversation we are having.
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  • I will be having my second c-section in June 2015 after my first in may 2011 with my now 3 year old daughter. My ob has given me the option of vbac but I'm just sticking to what I know.
  • Get your babies here safely... I don't care how you do it. I will be having a repeat csection and feel good about it.
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  • junch817junch817 member
    edited October 2014

    Thank you ladies. You all are really great and I truly love all your stories. For the women who have at regular c-sections how does it feel to be up Through the process. I heard that you feel the pressure and you have to remember to breath. I was under for mine so I dont know how that works.


    Yes and yes. But every experience is different. For me, the pressure was really intense; more than I expected (even though they warn you). I kept saying to DH that it felt like someone threw a large boulder right on top of my chest. I didn't expect to feel the pressure that high. I did have to concentrate on breathing and it felt like I couldn't catch a deep breath, but in all sincerity, I was completely fine. They told me when they first stuck the needle in that can happen too - that you feel like you can't breathe but you truly can.

    Nothing about it hurt though. Pressure, yes. Pain, no.

    When they first started, I didn't know they had, but all of a sudden it felt like someone was trying to pull me off the table by pulling on my legs. Then it dawned on me, ohhhhhh, that's them pulling down on my body to open it lol. Crazy.

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  • @junch817‌ thanks. That real helped me. Lol
    That would totally be me thinking why are they pulling me off the table. Lol.
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  • I just watched "The Business of Being Born" and it has convinced me to at least try to deliver this baby vaginally (and w/o intervention). I actually just switched to a midwife group that is performing water births at a major hospital as part of a clinical trial. Their results to date are very positive- shorter labor, fewer interventions, fewer tears, positive experienced, and healthy moms and babies (I can post their presentation of anyone is interested). I still can't bring myself to go with a birthing center or deliver at home, I am too scared of complications or my inability to withstand the pain! DH and I will definitely be taking classes and I'll be reading up on it...
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  • Heres the crazy part a VBAC scares the crap out of me. I am so afraid of ripping and what happens when you pee? Lol I know I sound like a child but it really scares me.
    I had a labial tear, and it wasn't bad. I didn't feel it at all when it happened, and they did a numbing shot prior to the repair. DH is still a bit traumatized, though, lol. 

    I was up and peeing asap after birth because 2 pees were the ticket to being able to order food from the cafeteria (nevermind that it still didn't open for another 3 hours. Still bitter about that one, ha.)

    On my local, the ladies had me terrified of the first bowel movement after delivery, but even that was no big deal.

    We're preparing for another no-pain-med vaginal birth.
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  • @NoeliaV‌ you are a tropper NO PAIN MEDS. Girl how did you do it. My Epi didnt take and I was dieing the contractions where so hard I couldnt stand it. Omg... I take my hat off to all the natural mommies cause you are super strong.

    @wasatchbaby‌ I always wanted to try water birth. But my hospital didnt do it. I heard it was a wonderful experience. I have even heard that the baby swims to.

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  • In the end the only thing that really matters is a healthy baby and a healthy mommy.  I refuse to get too caught up in what I want from this birth or our (eventual) birth plan.  I know too many mommas who had births that didn't do according to their birth plans and they were traumatized by it (some seriously so).  DD's birth was not what I had planned (an induction complete with pitocin, narcotics and an epidural) but she was healthy and at the end so was I.  I had a 2nd degree tear and after 4.5 hours of pushing some pretty extreme swelling down there.  But I avoided intervention (e.g., forceps, vacuum or episiotomy) and DD was safe.  They even kept my catheter in for an extra 12 hours because of the swelling (a friend suggested taking them up on this if they offered... best decision ever).  Things often don't go as planned with births so you need to be open to changes.  Your medical team will have your best interests in mind.

    I'm hoping to go med-free vaginal this time but if it doesn't happy, I'm ok as long as I walk out with a healthy baby at the end.

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  • So true. I know I am having a c-section this time my doctor told me that after my DD was born. I just wonder about my repeat moms everyone is so different and with amazing super woman stories.
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  • @tcolston10
    It's a bit like a roller coaster ride for me. Buckle in, put your head down and enjoy the ride, lol.
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  • I had an unplanned c-section after 28 hours of labor with DD. I was dead set on a med-free birth, and it ended up being a complete mess of a situation after hour 25. I felt completely out of control of the situation, and wasn't able to make decisions for myself when it came to decision time.  I have come to terms with the c-section, but I struggled for about 2 years with the pain and anxiety I felt when my body gave up during labor.

    My water broke naturally on my due date, I was at a 5 when we went into L&D, and never progressed past that. I hung in there for 25 hours, stuck at 5cm, untill DD's hear rate got out of control. I was strong contractions, but just not dilating. When they went in for the c-section, they found that DD's ear was on my cervix, instead of the top of her head. She would likely not have come out with out a section.

    For this baby, I will wait for labor to start/water break, but I will not go through 25 hours of non productive labor. As long as I'm progressing, I'll keep trying to a V-bac, but if labor starts to stall, I'll take the c-section without hesitation.
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  • @tahitiandreamin‌ I am happy for you. But due to my experiences, unfortunately, I learned I couldn't always trust my medical team to have my best interest in mind. Thankfully what happened to me is uncommon -- but it happened. Point being, yes of course everyone wants a healthy baby and mom; everyone agrees that is the end goal. But many of us strongly believe that how you get there does matter. Had my prior experiences not been so negative in terms of how I was treated, I might not feel as strongly about it myself, but the reality is there are many women for whom VBAC vs. repeat C is an issue fraught with anxiety and well-founded concern. I wish it wasn't the case and I wish I wasn't one of those women.
  • Thank you ladies. You all are really great and I truly love all your stories. For the women who have at regular c-sections how does it feel to be up Through the process. I heard that you feel the pressure and you have to remember to breath. I was under for mine so I dont know how that works.
    I had my epidural - which they increased three times because I could still feel them poking me with a needle - but honestly I don't remember feeling any really bad pressure or anything. The most I remember is sort of a, bumping feeling in my belly, but they warn you ahead of time like "you might feel a little tug" kind of thing so you are expecting it and that takes out the scariness. The "crew" who did my surgery was amazing, and they were joking around and talking to DH and I so it almost seemed like we were just hanging out. All of that said, I did lose a lot of blood and ended up passing out / falling asleep so that might be why I don't remember much of it. And it took a super long time for the feeling to come back in my legs.

    AngieBMcG I honestly thought that I would freak out too. I didn't even want an epidural because I am afraid of needles and thought it was just one less thing to have on my mind, but the nurses suggested it would be a good idea to at least have it placed as it was looking like I might end up a c-section, so I agreed thinking it would be easier to handle when I was in control than leaving it until it was an emergency. And when the time came to make the call - either keep pushing (even though there had been no progress in hours despite my docs reassurances that I was pushing great) or go for the c-section, I picked c-section and it was totally fine. **I suspect the doctor was only going to give me a few more pushes before she forced a c-section on me. She told me in the morning that DD was sideways and the best she could do was flip her face up (not ideal) and she kept twisting back to sideways every time I pushed. So she was never coming out naturally.**
  • Thank you ladies. You all are really great and I truly love all your stories. For the women who have at regular c-sections how does it feel to be up Through the process. I heard that you feel the pressure and you have to remember to breath. I was under for mine so I dont know how that works.

    This might come off as scary but when they started cutting, I felt it. The anesthesiologist told the dr to stop because he could see I was in pain. After that, it went super well. You feel a bit of pressure when they pull the baby out but it's not painful. I enjoyed my c-section experience way more than my labour.
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  • A vaginal birth is actually tremendously beneficial for the baby. Passing through the birthing canal helps populate it's gut bacteria. Research suggests that c-section babies tend to have more issues as they develop. Of course, if your situation TRULY calls for a C-section for medical reasons, that's one thing. Personally, I would do everything possible to avoid one. The North American C-section rate is appalling.
  • Hoping for a VBAC , my c section was the worst experience of my life.
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  • I had to have an emergency c section with my son. I was induced for going overdue and already at 3cm. After 17 hours of labor I only progressed to 5cm. They upped my pitocin and that made his heart rate drop very low. It was c section or possibly lose one or both of us. It took me 3 weeks to recover. It was hell. This time I'm hoping for a VBAC!

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  • Totally agree..I would like to have a home birth
  • tcolston10tcolston10 member
    edited October 2014
    Ladys a side question can you imagine child birth before modern medicine? I am reading all these emergency c stores and if it wasnt available it would have been horrible. I guess today my prego vibes are flying. Lol
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  • At the risk of opening a can of worms, I wouldn't pat the back of modern "modern medicine" too much. Maternal mortality is on the rise in the U.S., and some research points to the rise in certain interventions (e.g. epidurals, continuous fetal monitoring, elective c-sections, etc)
    Trends in Pregnancy-Related Mortality in the United States, 1987-2010. This line graph represents the number of pregnancy-related deaths per 100,000 live births per year: 1987, 7.2; 1988, 9.4; 1989, 9.8; 1990, 10.0; 1991, 10.3; 1992, 10.8; 1993, 11.1; 1994, 12.9; 1995, 11.3; 1996, 11.3; 1997, 12.9; 1998, 12.0; 1999, 13.2; 2000, 14.5; 2001, 14.7; 2002, 14.1; 2003, 16.8; 2004, 15.2; 2005, 15.4; 2006, 15.7; 2007, 14.5; 2008, 15.5; 2009, 17.8; 2010, 16.7
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  • Hummm. Thats a good one. I was thinking bout cow days Though. But I am all for Great conversations because we all have different opinions. I like our conversations
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  • Ladys a side question can you imagine child birth before modern medicine? I am reading all these emergency c stores and if it wasnt available it would have been horrible. I guess today my prego vibes are flying. Lol

    If i had given birth to my son a hundred years ago, chances are we both wouldn't have made it. I'm grateful every day for modern medicine.
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  • Maternal mortality is based on anyone pregnant or within the first 30 days pp who dies for any reason, car accidents, drug overdose, suicide doesn't matter it all gets lumped into maternal mortality.
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  • I should say in Canada. We talk about maternal mortality at work and how we wish it was tracked differently.
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  • Maternal Mortality Rates, and which causes of death are included in them, are decided by the organization which gathers the information, not by different countries.

    The World Health Organization maintains global maternal mortality rates and their definition is as follows: "Maternal death is the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the duration and site of the pregnancy, from any cause related to or aggravated by the pregnancy or its management but not from accidental or incidental causes. To facilitate the identification of maternal deaths in circumstances in which cause of death attribution is inadequate, a new category has been introduced: Pregnancy-related death is defined as the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the cause of death."

    I find that the WHO website is easy to use and full of interesting statistics, for those inclined to find out more about the subject of maternal health worldwide.


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  • I was just looking at the who website! They probably keep more accurate records than our governments. I agree that (unneeded ) c sections increase maternal mortality rates due to anaesthetic complications/ hemorrhage/ accreta but there is the argument that western women, on average, are older, heavier and have more co morbidities going into pregnancy. Many interventions (ie inductions) start based on these factors. Maternal mortality is a very complex issue with many, complex contributing factors.
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  • JoJo1111 said:
    I was just looking at the who website! They probably keep more accurate records than our governments. I agree that (unneeded ) c sections increase maternal mortality rates due to anaesthetic complications/ hemorrhage/ accreta but there is the argument that western women, on average, are older, heavier and have more co morbidities going into pregnancy. Many interventions (ie inductions) start based on these factors. Maternal mortality is a very complex issue with many, complex contributing factors.
    I agree. I think the UK has a really great maternal mortality reporting system (from what I understand).
    Just that the insinuations were made that: 
    -- maternal mortality is low (which, yeah, I suppose compared to the 1900s but let's be aware that it's on the rise and our (U.S.) outcomes could be much better [especially for the financial cost])
    -- c-sections are the reason for the huge drop in maternal mortality. The huge things that improved outcomes were a) antibiotic use to fight infection [1930s] b) physicians being trained to use fewer interventions [1940s] and c) the rise in prenatal care.

    It is complicated and complex, agreed. 
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  • I had a c-section want to VBAC this time. Vaginal birth is much preferable over c-sections.
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  • csection momma right here, but i am trying for a vbac this time around.
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  • This is my first and honestly both options scare me to death! I definatly do not want a csection... I have some serious anxiety over it. But as long as i have a healthy baby I'll do whatever it takes. Just praying for a healthy and easy labor!
  • I had an emergency c section w my DS who is now 4. After 20 hours of labor they put me under and had him
    Out in under a minute, his heart rate had dropped severely along with my blood pressure. He suffered ischemia and we were told he would have cerebral Palsy and would never walk. He is a perfect healthy four year old now but labor and delivery was scary and the week to follow in the NICU was touch and go. The c section saved both of our lives. I don't think I could try a vbac considering what happened to the both of us and how traumatic it was. I would prefer to go into labor naturally and then have the c section but ultimately I would just like a healthy L&D and a healthy baby without the trauma and scariness!!
  • @ihartbb‌ I totally agree with you. I am happy everything is great with your little one. Have you told him yet that he is going to be a big brother?

    @bfrank2014‌ I was the same way with my little girl. Man I was terrorize by thought of labor and delivery. I watch "bringing home baby" "make room for multiples" and I didnt know I was pregnant for 6mos to see what I was gonna have to go through. Its crazy but I kind of felt I was gonna have to have a csention because I was 40wks and 1day pregnant an hadn't dilated at all I was still high and closed. They tried to induce me but after 12hr of staying at 4. I gave up so I can say the closer we get to that time you will know whats best for you.
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  • Please, don't be scared of birth. It's a normal and natural process and it's totally doable. The chances that you might have a problem are slim- but that's why you have a midwife/doctor you trust to look out for an emergency before it gets life threatening.

    Read positive birth stories, because there are more good stories than bad ones and let the doctors worry about the emergency stuff.

    I had two beautiful "easy" births and one slightly more complicated but still beautiful and not at all traumatic birth and there is no reason you shouldn't go in with the same hope and mindset.
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