GD check in?

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

I know @bowlwoman was running the GD check in. I don't now if she's planning on stopping in to continue it or if she's taking a total board break.

paigep8 · October 2014

Can you give me an idea of what happened over the weekend? I noticed some posts, but can't figure out what caused so many to freak out.

From a GD standpoint-my numbers are really good, which has me pleased. I am totally watching my diet, but have been experimenting with other foods and have been happy that my numbers have still been low.

CandaceC1020 · October 2014

Troll invasion this weekend. BabyCenter invaded Bump and caused more chaos.

BdblZ · October 2014

Hey everyone

Nothing really new, numbers have been OK, fasting still running a bit high but not terrible. Only time this past week I got below 90 for my morning fasting was when I had a 1/2 glass of wine with dinner the night before :-< Too bad I didn't do something I could make more of a habit of. :-<

Waiting to see if they up my meds to help bring the fasting #'s below 90 more consistently. No appts this week, but starting next week I am on the once a week schedule. Still haven't gotten a straight answer as to when I will be starting my NSTs.

nopegoat · October 2014

My numbers have been OK but I have been really slacking on diet. I have been making sure I don't go over my carb limit, but have been pretty horrible about actually adding in snacks.

Next week I have my first growth u/s and will start weekly NST's.

lionyloo32 · October 2014

I'm really bummed that my fasting number has been above 95 for 5 days out of 6. And then today's after lunch number was high too!! This is so frustrating. I really, really don't want to have to take meds.

But even more so, I just really don't want an early delivery. Just curious, but if baby is measuring on track size wise, do they still put you on meds? Isn't the point just to prevent baby from growing too big? And pardon my ignorance, but what is NST? I've had one ultrasound to measure baby and he was in 68th percentile. Another scheduled for 2 weeks from tomorrow.

QueenOfSpades622 · October 2014

I would be happy to start this on Monday's I love trying to come up with GTKY's even though I never seem to post them. It will be Monday afternoons before I am able to get to it though, Monday AM very often will not alot me the time. Let me know what you guys think. If someone else would like to take it over that is ok with me too.

pchung · October 2014

@lionyloo32 NST is the non stress test. I actually just got back from mine. It's where you they hook you up to a monitor with two dopplers. Once to monitor baby's contractions and one to monitor if you are having contractions. My drs office says it can take anywhere from 20-45 minutes depending on if your baby's moving.

lionyloo32 · October 2014

Oh, okay! Thanks @pchung So when do they start doing that? My dr. hasn't mentioned anything but it's only been 2 weeks since I was diagnosed and I'm not yet 32wks. I'm freaking out a little over here. I'm supposed to travel to another state to give birth and was planning on leaving at 37 weeks. This whole gd thing is making me realize I may need to leave sooner.

QueenOfSpades622 · October 2014

My check in: Hit 32 weeks today, YAY!!!!! Only 8 more to go give/take Have my second growth scan this week. He was measuring in the 43% last month when we checked so hoping he has bulked up a little

Although that is a normal size. No NST this time which is fine with me he doesn't corroperate for those and it tends to take close to an hour to get the 20 minutes they need, Hell my first one I was there for 2 hours. My number were off this weekend but I was on a babymoon weekend and didn't pay as tight attention to my carbs as I should. My highest was 145 so not horrible but higher than I need to be. Back on track this week

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QueenOfSpades622 · October 2014

@Anna930 as far as "desserts" go I would think that apple crisp is one of your better choices. Cinnomin(sorry can't spell) is a natural remedy to lower blood sugars and the crisp cuts down on carbs because its one crust instead of two. That is my theory anyway and I've had it in moderation a couple times and my number have been good after.

QueenOfSpades622 · October 2014

HAHA yummy its "better" i'd say but yea still not Good for you. Apples are healthy though

bowlwoman · October 2014

Hey, sorry about not starting the thread this week. @Cheekers2010, thanks for getting it going. Just too much stuff coming up the next two weeks, so I'll be popping in sporatically.

Also, I made some GF scones this weekend, and they were super yummy. I tried to make them more low carb by subbing out some of the GF flour with almond meal, and I think I got them pretty good and only 15g carbs per scone. Have one with a small glass of milk, and it's a perfect snack. I'll post the recipe once I remember to grab the cookbook from downstairs. Plus, chocolate chips!

Hope all are doing well. I'll check back in later tonight after I'm done today with work. The next two weeks are just going to be hell with too much stuff to do.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

bowlwoman said:
Hey, sorry about not starting the thread this week. @Cheekers2010, thanks for getting it going. Just too much stuff coming up the next two weeks, so I'll be popping in sporatically.

Also, I made some GF scones this weekend, and they were super yummy. I tried to make them more low carb by subbing out some of the GF flour with almond meal, and I think I got them pretty good and only 15g carbs per scone. Have one with a small glass of milk, and it's a perfect snack. I'll post the recipe once I remember to grab the cookbook from downstairs. Plus, chocolate chips!

Hope all are doing well. I'll check back in later tonight after I'm done today with work. The next two weeks are just going to be hell with too much stuff to do.

I hope I didn't step on your toes! I don't want to take over. Just wasn't sure where you were at as far as the board goes.

bowlwoman · October 2014

Nope, no worries at all. I was going to log in this morning and start the thread, then my mom called and the next thing I knew it was 10 AM and I had to get logged into work.

Thanks for covering for me.

bowlwoman · October 2014

OK, for all you GF/GD double-whammy moms out there, and @3girlsnthepup and @MaineMama because I know they're GF too, my GF/GD friendly orange chocolate chip scones.

Gluten-Free Orange Chocolate Chip Scones

1 1/3 c GF all-purpose flour (I used Bob's Red Mill)

1 c almond meal flour (I used Bob's Red Mill)

1 Tbsp baking powder

3/4 tsp salt

3/4 tsp xanthan gum

1/2 tsp baking soda

1/2 c mini GF chocolate chips (I used these I found at Whole Foods)

1/2 c (1 stick) cold butter, cut into small pieces

1/4 c agave nectar (you can use honey if you like)

1/2 c orange juice

1 Tbsp orange zest (optional)

Preheat oven to 400°F/200°C.

Combine flours, baking powder, salt, xanthan gum, and baking soda in a large bowl. Add chocolate chips and toss to combine.

Cut butter into flour mixture with a pastry blender or two knives until coarse crumbs form.

Stir together agave nectar, orange juice, and orange zest in a small bowl until combined. Add orange juice mixture to the flour mixture. Stir together just until the dough begins to form.

Transfer to a surface sprinkled with flour blend and knead 5-6 times until the dough holds together (NOTE: I just stirred it a bit more in the bowl and added some extra flour if I needed it to hold the dough). Divide into three pieces.

Pat each dough section into a circle about 1/2 inch thick. Cut each circle into six wedges with a floured knife. Transfer the scones to a baking sheet, spaced two inches apart.

Bake 10 minutes or until lightly browned. (NOTE: The recipe says 10-14 minutes, but I had a couple smaller scones slightly burned on the bottom at 10 minutes and all my tops were browned. Depending on your oven, you may need to bake a bit longer.) Cool on a wire rack.

Makes 18 scones, each with 16g of carbs.

If you don't like the orange option, you can make these with yogurt. Just use 1/2 cup yogurt instead of the orange juice and omit the orange zest. If you want to use milk, make sure it's buttermilk or sour milk, as you need the acid to get the baking powder to rise.

Also, if you're not gluten free, you can probably just use regular flour and omit the xanthan gum, but I'm not sure how that plays out with the carb count. Probably pretty similar.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

That sound so yummy @bowlwoman

Cryssteen · October 2014

I haven't seen the endocrinologist yet since bring diagnosed last week. After 4 days or finger sticks, I have come to the conclusion that i have no idea how this works.

MaineMama · October 2014

Holy smokes @Bowlwoman, I need that in my stomach NOW!

bowlwoman · October 2014

@Cheekers2010 and @MaineMama They are QUITE tasty. The dough is very wet/soft, but if you pat it out with a bit of flour on it you can still cut it and move it do the baking sheet. I patted mine out on a paper plate, and it was a perfect size to get the right thickness for the three rounds.

lionyloo32 · October 2014

Today my fasting, after lunch, AND after dinner numbers have been high! UGH. I even did three walks today, two short ones earlier today and a 40min walk after dinner. This is SO frustrating.

erien · October 2014

Checking in for for the week. I had my first BPP today along with another growth scan. I came away very discouraged. My baby is measuring three weeks ahead (5 lb 10 oz). I know, I know. Ultrasounds can't be trusted. I know this from my last pregnancy but this baby is measuring even bigger than my last and I can't help but blame it on GD. My doctor was so kind and said the size of the baby could have nothing to do with the GD. As long as I've been controlling my sugars, I'm doing all I can. Doesn't make me feel better. I don't know why this has me so down. There is nothing wrong with a big baby!

Because I'm taking Metformin, I have to go in for appointments twice a week now. Monday BPP, Thursday NST. I know other women here are doing the same thing but I didn't have to do it last time and I was really hoping to avoid so many appointments. I just wish they could do both at one appointment so I only had to pay one co-pay. However, my OB's office doesn't do the NST's and I'll have to go to the hospital for those. Ugh.

With my last pregnancy, the baby failed the last two NST's. The doctor didn't seem concerned and didn't follow up with any additional tests. That was the final straw and when I decided I would not be seeing her for my next pregnancy. I asked my doctor today what his standard protocol was for NST's. I flat out told him if the baby fails a NST and you still won't do any further testing, I'm not interested in the extra monitoring. I was so nervous of a late term last time that I didn't want that stress again. He said if the baby fails a NST, it must past a BPP for me to be released. That's reassuring.

He also confirmed that his standard for GD patients on meds is induction between 39 and 40 weeks. FX I don't make it that far. Not because I don't want the baby to stay in there as long as possible, but I really don't want an induction! And this baby needs to turn head down and stay there! At 28 weeks it was transverse, 30 weeks it was head down, and, now at 32 weeks, it's back transverse. Only thing I fear more than an induction is a c-section! Going to the chiro tomorrow to get this baby turned!

lionyloo32 · October 2014

@erien my ob told me that baby can and will turn many more times until closer to the end. Right now LO is breech, but they've told me not to worry about it until honestly around 37 weeks or so. You may be wasting a chiro appt to turn baby only to have him/her turn back.

Also, I'm really glad to have this GD check-in, because even though I met with my ob, a perinatologist, and nutritionist, this is the first I'm hearing about all these extra appointments!!

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

lionyloo32 said:

Today my fasting, after lunch, AND after dinner numbers have been high! UGH. I even did three walks today, two short ones earlier today and a 40min walk after dinner. This is SO frustrating.

It is so frustrating. I feel you. I don't know if you're like me, but I always feel like I'm failing a test when I get a high number. Of course I'm a total type A overachiever and so that's how I roll. It makes me crazy.

It sounds like it might be time for you to have something to help with your numbers. There's no shame. For some of us, no matter what we do, we can't keep our numbers in range. With my son, I was eating less than 50 carbs per day (yes, per day...not per meal), going to Zumba every day and walking twice each day. Didn't make any difference.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

erien said:

He also confirmed that his standard for GD patients on meds is induction between 39 and 40 weeks. FX I don't make it that far. Not because I don't want the baby to stay in there as long as possible, but I really don't want an induction! And this baby needs to turn head down and stay there! At 28 weeks it was transverse, 30 weeks it was head down, and, now at 32 weeks, it's back transverse. Only thing I fear more than an induction is a c-section! Going to the chiro tomorrow to get this baby turned!

I feel exactly the same. Terrified of another induction and scared that this baby girl (who is constantly moving between every position still) will turn stubbornly breech. I do not want a c-section unless I absolutely have to have one.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

I started twice weekly NSTs this week like some of the rest of you. I was there for over 2 hours. Not because baby girl didn't cooperate. She totally did. But because I waited in the waiting room for 45 minutes and then in a exam room for another 30 minutes while somebody else had to do an extra long NST. And, then, my doctor came and checked me after about 18 minutes and said the strip was great and we could be done in 2 minutes. Took about an extra 20 for the nurse to come and get me off the monitors. So, my "20 minute" NST lasted more like 45. Ridiculous. I can't do this twice a week. I have other things going on in my life. I'm so irritated.

lionyloo32 · October 2014

Cheekers2010 said:

lionyloo32 said:

Today my fasting, after lunch, AND after dinner numbers have been high! UGH. I even did three walks today, two short ones earlier today and a 40min walk after dinner. This is SO frustrating.

It is so frustrating. I feel you. I don't know if you're like me, but I always feel like I'm failing a test when I get a high number. Of course I'm a total type A overachiever and so that's how I roll. It makes me crazy.

It sounds like it might be time for you to have something to help with your numbers. There's no shame. For some of us, no matter what we do, we can't keep our numbers in range. With my son, I was eating less than 50 carbs per day (yes, per day...not per meal), going to Zumba every day and walking twice each day. Didn't make any difference.

Thanks @Cheekers2010. I was just really hoping that they were wrong somehow and that all would be fine if I just watched my diet. And I 100% feel like I'm failing a test!! Grrr. I never take medication, unless I really, really have to. Something about taking meds while pregnant is just freaking me out. I guess not taking the meds would be worse? I just don't know what's the right thing to do. If baby isn't measuring big, can't I just wait until/when he does before starting meds??

lionyloo32 · October 2014

Also, anyone have days where they just feel weird? Today my numbers have been high, yet I feel weird (slight headache, shaky, and starving!). And by high I don't mean crazy high, just slightly above what it should be (i.e. 130 after lunch and 124 after dinner). Normally my after meal numbers are in the 90's range. I've been eating cheese in between snack and meal time, but it's not making me feel any better.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

bluebird00 said:

lionyloo32 said:

Cheekers2010 said:

lionyloo32 said:

Today my fasting, after lunch, AND after dinner numbers have been high! UGH. I even did three walks today, two short ones earlier today and a 40min walk after dinner. This is SO frustrating.

It is so frustrating. I feel you. I don't know if you're like me, but I always feel like I'm failing a test when I get a high number. Of course I'm a total type A overachiever and so that's how I roll. It makes me crazy.

It sounds like it might be time for you to have something to help with your numbers. There's no shame. For some of us, no matter what we do, we can't keep our numbers in range. With my son, I was eating less than 50 carbs per day (yes, per day...not per meal), going to Zumba every day and walking twice each day. Didn't make any difference.

Thanks @Cheekers2010. I was just really hoping that they were wrong somehow and that all would be fine if I just watched my diet. And I 100% feel like I'm failing a test!! Grrr. I never take medication, unless I really, really have to. Something about taking meds while pregnant is just freaking me out. I guess not taking the meds would be worse? I just don't know what's the right thing to do. If baby isn't measuring big, can't I just wait until/when he does before starting meds??

The problem with that is that there are other potential repercussions to having chronically high blood sugar - for both you and your baby. It's not just about size, unfortunately.

If he's producing too much insulin because you both have high circulating glucose, then he can become resistant to insulin, and will be more likely to develop issues with obesity and/or Type 2 DM himself. It can also lead to hypoglycemia after delivery, increased chance of breathing problems and a trip to the NICU, changes in your amniotic fluid volume, etc. Not to mention an increased risk of you developing Type 2 in the next few years.

I'm certainly not saying that one day of high numbers means you need to be medicated - that's obviously a call for your doc to make, just pointing out the other reasons that you should listen to your doctor, should they recommend you start medication to control your glucose. It affects a lot of things!

That said, I completely feel you on this. I'm doing everything I can to avoid medication, too. Good luck to you!

Edit: clarity

Yep. Not just about size. Unfortunately.

lionyloo32 · October 2014

Thanks bluebird00 That info actually makes me feel a lot better about the possibility of needing to be on meds. I just want what's best for LO and will keep him safe inside as long as possible, and healthy once out.

bowlwoman · October 2014

My numbers were high all day today too after being low the past week. This happens to me every so often, and it's usually around the time I get some cramping and round ligament pain, so I'm 99% sure it's a growth spurt and the accompanying hormone surge. As long as the numbers don't stay chronically high, it's usually ok.

amedbery · October 2014

So I totally fucked this up and created another post, but I was wondering if any of you went on the GD diet later than 20 weeks and if you noticed decreased fetal movement when you did? I used to feel the baby bounce around all day until I went on the GD diet and now not so much. I couldn't get through a kick count tonight and called the OB and went in to LD for monitoring and all is fine- I just wanted to know if this decreased movement was my new normal. Especially since I can drink juice or sprite to get her going anymore.

bayareagirl2011 · October 2014

@amedbery, when did you start the diet? I do think that my first few days of starting carb counting she was a bit less active, but so was I. I think it took my body a few days to gain energy back and get used to having so many less carbs so I'm assuming it was a change for baby too. Have you tried pieces of whole fruit? If you were drinking juice/sprite to get her going before, her not moving around as much since you're not drinking sugary drinks is normal. Also, could be a growth spurt as she gets bigger, the movements may start to feel different.

AColeman82 · October 2014

I haven't been put on med, I go back to my ob Thursday and I have a feeling they are going to. Most of my after meal numbers are good...and they stay that way as long as I don't drink cokes or anything like that loaded with sugar...but my fasting numbers are always between 100 and 115. I don't know what to do to get them and lower.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

AColeman82 said:

I haven't been put on med, I go back to my ob Thursday and I have a feeling they are going to. Most of my after meal numbers are good...and they stay that way as long as I don't drink cokes or anything like that loaded with sugar...but my fasting numbers are always between 100 and 115. I don't know what to do to get them and lower.

Fasting numbers are often the hardest to control. There's very little you can do. During my first pregnancy that's the number I struggled with. Many of us suffer from what is called the dawn phenomenon. It's a hormone surge in the early morning that causes your blood sugar to rise also. For me my blood sugar goes down with fasting at night until around 2 or 3 am (yes, I stayed up one night and took my blood sugar numbers every hour on the hour until I found our when it started rising) and then it slow starts rising so that by the time I get up my fasting number is high. Since this surge is hormonally based there isn't anything you can do as far as eating and exercise.

AColeman82 · October 2014

Thanks for the information...that kinda sucks that there isn't much I can do about it though. I feel like my body held things together pretty well through the first 6 months and then when I hit month 7 it was just like, nope I am done playing nice...we shall see what Thursday brings.

amedbery · October 2014

bayareagirl2011 said:
@amedbery, when did you start the diet? I do think that my first few days of starting carb counting she was a bit less active, but so was I. I think it took my body a few days to gain energy back and get used to having so many less carbs so I'm assuming it was a change for baby too. Have you tried pieces of whole fruit? If you were drinking juice/sprite to get her going before, her not moving around as much since you're not drinking sugary drinks is normal. Also, could be a growth spurt as she gets bigger, the movements may start to feel different.

I started on Thursday. It actually makes me feel better that you had a similar experience. It's just super-scary to have an acrobat become a baby couch potato almost overnight!

bowlwoman · October 2014

AColeman82 said:
Thanks for the information...that kinda sucks that there isn't much I can do about it though. I feel like my body held things together pretty well through the first 6 months and then when I hit month 7 it was just like, nope I am done playing nice...we shall see what Thursday brings.

This is SO typical. The third trimester is when the placenta is big enough to create enough hormones to throw the mom into insulin resistance. All pregnant moms become insulin resistant to some degree in the third trimester; it's just us lucky ones who wind up becoming diabetic because of it. As soon as you deliver the placenta, the hormones are gone and presto! No more diabetes. This is one reason GD moms get induced in the 39-40 week mark. As the placenta gets older it can start breaking down, flooding your body with more hormones. You get enough of them, and the diabetes DOESN'T reverse.

I developed type II about two years after DD2, having two back-to-back GD pregnancies and PCOS. I took some injectibles that rejuvenated my pancreas, and I'd had absolutely no problems since, and I was on metformin anyway for the PCOS. However, because I was diagnosed as type II at one point, I'm considered a diabetic mom and have been checking sugars and doing the diet since 12 weeks. And I had absolutely NO problems with my numbers until...24 weeks, when the typical GD problems start.

GL. And yeah, this is just how your body responds to pregnancy. Not a damn thing you can do about it except go to more doctor appointments, prick your finger, eat healthy, and maybe do meds.

bowlwoman · October 2014

Cheekers2010 said:

AColeman82 said:

I haven't been put on med, I go back to my ob Thursday and I have a feeling they are going to. Most of my after meal numbers are good...and they stay that way as long as I don't drink cokes or anything like that loaded with sugar...but my fasting numbers are always between 100 and 115. I don't know what to do to get them and lower.

Fasting numbers are often the hardest to control. There's very little you can do. During my first pregnancy that's the number I struggled with. Many of us suffer from what is called the dawn phenomenon. It's a hormone surge in the early morning that causes your blood sugar to rise also. For me my blood sugar goes down with fasting at night until around 2 or 3 am (yes, I stayed up one night and took my blood sugar numbers every hour on the hour until I found our when it started rising) and then it slow starts rising so that by the time I get up my fasting number is high. Since this surge is hormonally based there isn't anything you can do as far as eating and exercise.

-----QBF-----

I haven't done the all night testing, but I'm SO tempted to do a test every 5 min for two hours after eating to see where the peak and fall is for after meal numbers. I don't know that I want to commit to 40 finger pricks, though...

adoringangeldmb · October 2014

I had my diabetes institute class this past Friday so got the low-down on GD and my monitor. So far, my numbers have been pretty good expect for Sunday's breakfast but that was because I guess I over did it on the "sugar" intake with the oatmeal I had, it was 158. However I do notice how much better I have been feeling since starting the diet and monitoring. This Thursday I have my first NST so we shall see how it goes. Just thought I stop by and check in finally. Try to have a great day ladies.

Cheekers2010 · October 2014

bowlwoman said:

AColeman82 said:

I haven't been put on med, I go back to my ob Thursday and I have a feeling they are going to. Most of my after meal numbers are good...and they stay that way as long as I don't drink cokes or anything like that loaded with sugar...but my fasting numbers are always between 100 and 115. I don't know what to do to get them and lower.

Fasting numbers are often the hardest to control. There's very little you can do. During my first pregnancy that's the number I struggled with. Many of us suffer from what is called the dawn phenomenon. It's a hormone surge in the early morning that causes your blood sugar to rise also. For me my blood sugar goes down with fasting at night until around 2 or 3 am (yes, I stayed up one night and took my blood sugar numbers every hour on the hour until I found our when it started rising) and then it slow starts rising so that by the time I get up my fasting number is high. Since this surge is hormonally based there isn't anything you can do as far as eating and exercise.
-----QBF----- I haven't done the all night testing, but I'm SO tempted to do a test every 5 min for two hours after eating to see where the peak and fall is for after meal numbers. I don't know that I want to commit to 40 finger pricks, though...

Too many finger pokes! My fingers are cringing in sympathy.

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