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  • lisarenlisaren member
    lovebuggies1 said:

    runningmama14 said:

    @lovebuggies1 - Just as you feel entitled to call someone out for a comment you think is stupid, so do I.  None of my comments were "jabs" at you. They were me stating my opinion about what I thought to be stupid.  Goes both ways.


    Stating that a declaw involves "breaking bones" is in fact false propaganda.  No fancy medical terminology needed to explain.  I don't break any bones doing a declaw; that's as plain speak as it gets.  Obviously, some actual and factual knowledge of the procedure and anatomy is required to logically discuss it, which you clearly do not have.

    As far spaying and neutering goes, you are right, I am speaking in generalizations and so are you.  My opinion that a lot of spays and neuters occur for owner convenience is based on my daily interaction with pet owners, thousands per year.  Over half the cat spays I do are on cats that are currently in heat or have already had their first heat cycle.  What do you base your generalizations and opinions on?

    As far as recommending resources for cat owners, I prefer to send people to https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/cat-behavior/destructive-scratching

    It's a site where all information is written and reviewed by board-certified veterinary behaviorists and phD behaviorists.  It's a group I tend to more trust in than any self-proclaimed "behaviorist" out there.
    I said they were jabs because comments to other bumpies were STILL directed towards me. I don't care that you had an opposing opinion from me. That's fine. But if you're going to sneak diss, tag me in it too.

    Clearly you think you're some god of animals. I don't have to be a vet to speak on topics thank you very much. I don't really care how long you've been doing what you're doing, you're rude as hell. Nothing in my comment was rude towards you, I was stating that you jumped in the conversation all high and mighty when clearly I wasn't talking about your job, how bad people are, or anything else. Her cats are ALREADY declawed. Can't go back in time to change that so I wasn't convincing her otherwise.

    If you're going to jump in something, at least know the original topic. I see she's perfectly fine with my opinion since she didn't come back and I'm not going to change her mind or house rules with my two cents.

    I put that link because it had a few good ideas for the OP in case she still hasn't decided or someone new read the thread. Anyone can Google ASPCA. Its not hard and doesn't make you a genius or better than someone else. I didn't generalize, I just said it was a pet population problem and lack of caring adopters. Which went along with your statement about less cats finding homes. Same thing.

    So what's your point? You have experience so you think we're all supposed to just nod and smile at your views?
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    Yo, chill out. Seriously. You're being incredibly rude (your tone) and I'm not sure this is how you're intending your words to come across.




                                  
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  • runningmama14runningmama14 member
    edited October 2014
    Just because a poster chooses not to respond to your rude and abrasive posts, doesn't mean they weren't offended or hurt by them or that they are "perfectly fine" with your opinion.

    I posted all of my thoughts on the issue here in this thread where you can clearly read them.  Nothing sneaky going on here.

    And no, I do not think I'm a god of animals, but if my time working in vet clinics, going to school for 8 years and practicing since gives me just as many years of experience in my field as you have being a cat owner, I do feel as though I have something to bring to the table when animal issues are discussed.  Anyone is free to take whatever they want from what I have say or not.

    Edited to tag @lovebuggies1 because apparently its shady not to.
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  • runningmama14runningmama14 member
    @lovebuggies1 - other than my comment in my initial post about breaking bones being false info, all of the remarks I made in regards to the actual procedure, I made in response to a direct question and convo with @lizgrace03.  She and I had a nice adult discussion in which I provided info I thought pertained to her question.  It wasn't directed towards you.  

    I would not have commented any further had I not been asked.  It was not a personal vendetta against you, as you seem to think.  That being said, don't expect me to just roll over and let you rudely post whatever you want about me without a response.  It's NMS.
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  • MaelaraMaelara member
    lovebuggies1 said:
    @runningmama14 there goes another jab *sigh* I don't expect you to roll over just the same as you shouldn't expect me to. This conversation did get out of hand, but I can't see your face or expressions when you write. Imagine me coming back on the board after stating just yesterday I was having a bad day and almost took it out ok the bumpie. I logged off to prevent any further problems I might cause. Then I get on here and it seems like you're constantly attacking me. Anything I post gets some comment like this. But fine, if it's not a personal vendetta than I read too much into it. It's not like this is our first time. @Maelara idk what to even respond with, without it causing more drama. It's like you enjoy finding this stuff. Don't you see that by everyone adding their 2 cents just makes the situation worse? It could be solved by now. We don't need mediators, I'm sure runningmama will continue to tell me how she feels. No need to add fuel. Just waiting for my PM now. Isn't that what everyone wants? Anytime I post an unpopular opinion?

    @lovebuggies1 please calm down. I wish you could see yourself from everyone else's perspective right now, it's not good. You really need to step away and come back once you've calmed down and you guys can have a rational discussion about this. It's very obvious that you need a mediator because you're flying off the handle at everyone right now. I usually leave you alone since our last 'disagreement' but you need to stop. Please, just stop.
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  • MaelaraMaelara member
    @lovebuggies1‌ you have said some extremely hurtful things to me and others and it was really, really uncalled for. Yes, you have feelings but so do we. I really do hope you feel better later. Maybe I'll send a PM to see ;)
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  • brttmr05brttmr05 member
    We have been leaving the door to the nursery open during the day, and we shut it at night.  I want her to be comfortable around the baby things.  She is also about 2 years old and not declawed.  The BEST thing we did was put aluminum foil around the crib rails.  Cats don't like the noise it makes.  She hasn't tried to jump in the crib since.  In fact, one day I move the foil to take pictures and she darted out of the room just form the sound.

    She does sleep with me, on my side of the bed.  That won't be able to be changed, because like everyone said, she'll cry outside the door all night.  I think she'll be skittish for the first few weeks.  My friends that have cats didn't have any issues with them trying to sleep with the baby because the sudden noise that could come at any second.
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  • hollystoyboxhollystoybox member
    I've locked my cats out of the nursery and our bedroom pre-baby, mostly because I know they would love to sleep on something warm (aka a baby!) and I'm afraid they'd smother him.  Not to mention just how much cat hair they would add to all the cute, fuzzy baby things...I feed them in the laundry room, and I plan to keep them locked up at night so they don't meow/claw the door and wake him up at night-I'm not getting woken up just because my cats think they need to be fed!
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  • crystaldhcrystaldh member
    Back to cats, I've had some very serious cat issues over the past year and my sweet Luigi, who has become very clingy towards me and started viciously attacking our other cat this past winter, and is going to live in a studio space (that used to be a little bookshop) that my husband works out of. It's about a 5 minute walk from our apartment, so I'll get to visit him, and will be there every day, but it's going to be a very hard transition because he was my first baby. He's currently on an antidepressant, so helpfully that will help. I just don't think he could handle the stress of a baby and he's very jealous. The other cat, who has been staying at the studio, will come back here with us. He's not easily rattled, so I'm not too worried. @runningmama14 provided some great advice when I was dealing with these issues and I'm grateful that she was generous enough to share her professional opinion because it is valuable.
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