Please no judgement... I LOVE me some epidural!! It was seriously amaZing last time! I didn't feel even the tiniest bit of pain!! Any other moms out there feel my love?
Yes! I was induced and I had an epidural and my labor was a breeze. I think I am going to get it again, I'm toying with the idea of a home birth but I probably will end up doing it the same way. I still have not let myself see the needle/injection -- I remember I could feel it going in between my vertebrate which was scary... But in the end worth it!
I didn't want to have medication with my first but in the heat of it I definitely asked for one. I ended up with a quick labor and I didn't end up getting it since I was too far progressed.
I'm planning to stick it out this time too just because my first labor went quickly. I would be worried about the baby having drugs on board at birth if delivery was quick. If it ended up being a long labor I would probably do something for pain because that can be a great help to get women to relax and get some rest to make it through the rest of a long labor and pushing and birth is exhausting.
ETA: I have also watched a c section in the OR & boy that needle is HORRIFYING. Just saying...
I don't want to thread hijack, but this relates to what many have said ... what are the reasons for induction? I can understand that if you go too long (like 41 weeks ) you'll need it. But what are some other reasons for it? I admit I haven't researched this at all, but it is probably good to know.
On topic: My best friend said almost that exact thing when I told her I'd probably get the epi. She also got a big grin. She loved the drugs!
My OB asked me if I wanted to be induced on my due date and I said yes -- I was so sick of waiting to go into labor because I had been on bed rest for a couple weeks. I like the convenience of it, knowing when I am going into the hospital, and that it was faster. I can't recall doing it for a medical reason.
It seems like from what I've seen people post, labor pain is worse when you're induced? True or False!
I have heard pitocin contractions are stronger. I was induced for preeclampsia but I only needed the cervadil gel (which is just to ripen the cervix technically) and that threw me into active labor so I never needed pit, despite being induced.
& to answer PP question: The only reason you would want to be induced before 40-42 weeks is if there is a medical issue- preeclampsia, HELLP, GD, IUGR, and probably many others but those are what I can think of off the top of my head.
I have had one typical hospital birth (induction & epidural ETC) and one natural home birth. Contractions are much worse with induction and lead to an epidural in most cases. I hated the drugs. I felt paralyzed for at least two days and my recovery took much longer.... Not to mention the mysterious gigantic bruise on my back that lasted 2 years and the occasional sharp (knife-in-the-back) type pain. 2nd baby we decided for a home birth. Needless to say... I will NOT be going back to the hospital for baby #3 I wouldn't trade my homebirth experience for ANYTHING! It was truely nothing short of amazing
I have had one typical hospital birth (induction & epidural ETC) and one natural home birth. Contractions are much worse with induction and lead to an epidural in most cases. I hated the drugs. I felt paralyzed for at least two days and my recovery took much longer.... Not to mention the mysterious gigantic bruise on my back that lasted 2 years and the occasional sharp (knife-in-the-back) type pain. 2nd baby we decided for a home birth. Needless to say... I will NOT be going back to the hospital for baby #3 I wouldn't trade my homebirth experience for ANYTHING! It was truely nothing short of amazing
Wait ... you had a bruise for two years?!? How is that possible!? If that wasn't a typo, consider my mind blown.
@dragonflydreaming Health of mom (pre-e, cholestasis, and a million other things), health of baby (not growing well, poor scores on stress tests, etc.), risk of still birth (history of prior late term stillbirth, AMA, overdue >41-42 weeks, etc. ), water breaks & labor doesn't start on its own within X # of hours, elective/convenience/miserable (>39 weeks) -- that's just off the top of my head. Induction can be controversial in some situations and some docs would absolutely induce while others would absolutely NOT. If I am told I need to be induced I'm going to fight like hell unless I agree that it's medically necessary. (Unless I'm miserable and just don't give a shit anymore. That's always possible I suppose.)
Re: induction -- In my NP program, we were taught that foley bulb (mechanical) cervical ripening is safer & quicker than cervidil or cytotec. This was standard of care where I used to work, but I recently discovered it's not done everywhere. I am going to ask about this if they want to induce me. That's another thing -- I thought it was automatic to do cervical ripening (if needed) as the first part of an induction, but my SIL was just induced at 37 weeks without any cervical ripening! SHE WAS ON PIT FOR 4 DAYS. I don't know how she ended up without a c-section. I have seen a woman lose her uterus after long term aggressive pit like that, and I was terrified for my SIL. Everything went fine, except for the miserable 4 days of labor. Still -- if I have to be induced, I'll be begging for foley bulb before the pit, and a low pit protocol. The less pit, the better.
Ugh I really hope I go into labor on my own. I hate the idea of being induced and really think way too many women are pushed into being induced due to convenience for the hospital staff and their doctors.
I've heard of women having back pain in the spot of the epidural, years after giving birth. This was true for me, for 2 years and mainly when it was a cold day.
Well crap, that sounds awful. Is it too late to change my mind? My back is already fucked. I think I'll just hoard cats instead, please and thank you.
I've heard of women having back pain in the spot of the epidural, years after giving birth. This was true for me, for 2 years and mainly when it was a cold day.
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to do it with no drugs. But without drugs, how in the heck do yiu handle the episiotomy?!
@mangomimosa Thanks for all the great info. I had zero knowledge about the cervical ripening. I'm glad everything went ok with your SIL!
@dragonflydreaming No prob! I studied a lot to become a midwife & then went to school for a similar field... I'm kind of a birth nerd. So I have to say re: episiotomy -- easy, you don't get one! Unless your docs are super old school or there's a true emergency, they will probably let you tear naturally, if you tear at all. It heals way better than a cut. Episiotomies aren't nearly as common as they used to be. And you may reduce your chance of tearing by squatting, not pushing to a 10-count, having perineal support. I have no idea what tearing feels like though... I imagine it sucks if you feel it -- or maybe it's all just lost in the shitty ring of fire and then it's over and you have a baby and you don't care? All my knowledge is textbook & observation, no personal experience!
I've heard of women having back pain in the spot of the epidural, years after giving birth. This was true for me, for 2 years and mainly when it was a cold day.
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to do it with no drugs. But without drugs, how in the heck do yiu handle the episiotomy?!
@mangomimosa Thanks for all the great info. I had zero knowledge about the cervical ripening. I'm glad everything went ok with your SIL!
I had an episiotomy and by the time I had it my epidural had already worn off and I basically pushed without medication. I also I felt the slicing and stitching from the episiotomy, ugghhh weirdest /grossest feeling ever.
Yuuuuck, the stitching was hands down the worst part of when I cracked my skull (besides the actual cracking, obviously.) You can't be put under with head trauma, so I felt every lovely stitch. That feeling still haunts me. Now imagining feeling that times ten in my crotch... NOPE. I'm so sorry that happened to you! There isn't anything they can do if it wears off? I'm a newb so I don't fully understand the time frames and why it's not okay to have an epidural past a certain point.
@dragonflydreaming No prob! I studied a lot to become a midwife & then went to school for a similar field... I'm kind of a birth nerd. So I have to say re: episiotomy -- easy, you don't get one! Unless your docs are super old school or there's a true emergency, they will probably let you tear naturally, if you tear at all. It heals way better than a cut. Episiotomies aren't nearly as common as they used to be. And you may reduce your chance of tearing by squatting, not pushing to a 10-count, having perineal support. I have no idea what tearing feels like though... I imagine it sucks if you feel it -- or maybe it's all just lost in the shitty ring of fire and then it's over and you have a baby and you don't care? All my knowledge is textbook & observation, no personal experience!
I had a small tear, I think 2nd degree so I imagine that it would be worse the larger and more involved the tear is but I didn't feel it at all. It's all so intensely painful and stinging and burning there's just no way I could differentiate. I was numbed with a small injection to do a few stitches and I don't really remember feeling any of that either. Maybe the rush of oxytocin helps that, either way once that babes on your chest you pretty much forget all that is even happening down there, haha.
Everyone was asking me ahead of time if I'd get an epi or not. I didn't want to plan ahead. I said if I get to the hospital and I'm like, a 7 and I'm doing okay, maybe I'll try to hold out. But if I'm like a 2 and it's horrible, I'll probably get it lol. Water broke at home at 5am. Contractions started off very managable, but by 3pm I couldn't handle it anymore!!! I was that loud moaning woman, I couldn't believe it was me making all that noise lol. I got my epi, and my husband said I was like a whole new person. I told him it was awesome and that he should get one lol. The epidural really helped me relax, and I actually slept for a little while. Which was helpful since i ended up laboring for 22 hours!!!!!
Still don't know if I'll 100% get one this time. But I can't imagine doing it without the epi. I guess if time allows, but who knows with the 2nd birth.
I'm a FTM, but had an epidural for a surgery I had. I had been recieving IV drugs when they put it in and I'm pretty sure I was legally high when they did it. All I remember is that my boob fell out of my hospital gown and I laughed at the nurse trying to cover me back up... Like I wasn't about to be naked from at least the waist down in the OR. I'm fairly certain it was a stronger dosage than what they give for birth, but I hated not feeling my legs.
Apparently here though, they don't really do the whole medicated thing. Most women labor/deliver without meds. I've heard a lot of women complaining that they had to beg repeatedly for meds.
This is my HUGE concern in Doha! I'm not sure what their practices are and am highly worried about the unknowns. And that they won't respect my birth plan (if possible). I plan to join a local mom - group when I get there in a couple weeks, so I can ask about the local hospitals and practices
I was two weeks late with my dd and actually went into labor on my own the night before I was supposed to be induced. I didn't want an induction so I was happy about that. I did have horrible back labor and got the epi too soon which my mw says slowed down the progress so much. My dd had a bad reaction to pit so they couldn't use that. I got to 9 1/2 cm and they told me it'd been to long since my water broke and I needed a c section. I'm not opposed to drugs, but they do significantly slow labor so I'm going to try to hold off as long as possible this time.
I'm a FTM, but had an epidural for a surgery I had. I had been recieving IV drugs when they put it in and I'm pretty sure I was legally high when they did it. All I remember is that my boob fell out of my hospital gown and I laughed at the nurse trying to cover me back up... Like I wasn't about to be naked from at least the waist down in the OR. I'm fairly certain it was a stronger dosage than what they give for birth, but I hated not feeling my legs.
Apparently here though, they don't really do the whole medicated thing. Most women labor/deliver without meds. I've heard a lot of women complaining that they had to beg repeatedly for meds.
This is my HUGE concern in Doha! I'm not sure what their practices are and am highly worried about the unknowns. And that they won't respect my birth plan (if possible). I plan to join a local mom - group when I get there in a couple weeks, so I can ask about the local hospitals and practices
Definitely do it! I've found that here since they're not huge on drugs during labor, they're good about alternative methods. Just about every hospital has a birth tub, since you aren't hooked to an IV or monitors you can walk around or get in any laboring position that is comfortable for you.
Haha! So many people wish for that type of environment in the US! Will you be trying that way? I would love a natural birth, but at least would like the epi option if it becomes unbearable.
I went into my first labor with the thought in my head, "I won't refuse an epidural, but let's just see how long I can go without one. Maybe I'm such a tough ass chick, I won't need one at all!" Well suffice it to say that after laboring all night with the most incredible, intense pain and then arriving at the hospital to be told I was only dilated at a 2cm, I burst into tears. There was no way I could handle getting to 10 at that point on my own. The minute I got that sweet sweet epidural, it was like Bob Marley's "Three Little Birds" song came on. Life (and labor) was just much better after that. I will definitely get it again.
I was induced with my daughter at 36 weeks due to low amniotic fluid. I ended up with an epidural. I loved that it eased the pain, but I hated that I couldn't feel my legs. A few hours after the birth, I told the nurse I felt fine to walk to the bathroom on my own. And then suddenly one of my legs felt like mush. Thankfully my husband caught me before I fell.
I wish I could go med free, but my pain tolerance is too low.
One of my issues is not having control. It's completely psychological. Being stuck to the bed because my legs don't work sounds like my worst nightmare come true. I'm hoping once at the hospital I won't care very much about needing to walk around.
I want all of the drugs. I'm terrible with pain and I don't see myself being able to handle a natural childbirth without something to take the edge off.
At my last maternity clinic appointment, the doc told me that the drugs they use for an epi now have evolved quite significantly over the past 10 years... She said that while they are obviously still numbing, you can still move and some women can even get up and walk around/go to the bathroom. I'm in Canada so maybe the drug combo here is different, but has anyone else heard of this? @mangomimosa maybe?
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Hi all, I'm an L&D RN and 15 wks pregnant. From my experience with laboring moms I find labor inductions FAR WORSE than going into your own labor. Think about it, you're forcing the hand of nature with meds such as pitocin, cervidil, or cytotec and it's just the artificial version of your own body's natural oxytocin production. Don't get me wrong, sometimes it's needed; prolonged rupture, post date, low fluid, preeclampsia, etc. I don't sugar coat anything with my labor induction patients, I tell them how it will be and I suggest the epidural especially if you have a low pain tolerance.
The epidural is a medical marvel ladies! But sometimes your labor can go so fast there's no time for it, and that's just fine as well. I had an epidural with my first born and I absolutely LOVED it! I went from 2-10cm in 3 hrs and pushed like a champ because epidural wore off by then. I'll be ready for epidural again or all natural if I go thru labor quickly.
At my last maternity clinic appointment, the doc told me that the drugs they use for an epi now have evolved quite significantly over the past 10 years... She said that while they are obviously still numbing, you can still move and some women can even get up and walk around/go to the bathroom. I'm in Canada so maybe the drug combo here is different, but has anyone else heard of this? @mangomimosa maybe?
Yes, I have heard that called the walking epidural. I don't know that it is available everywhere… For example at my hospital they really didn't do it. Too much liability, if a mom gets one and falls while walking. If I had access to one, I would definitely consider it before a full out numbing one. Others might know more on that one!
And as to how long your water can be broken before you need a C-section… controversial topic, no black & white answer. Varies by doctor & by region. I have seen them want to have labor started and active by 24 hours. It is not common for your water to break before labor starts; stories of women laboring for days usually involved intact membranes. There are definitely women who will go a week after water breaks, and as long as there is no sign of fever, it may be safe to continue. I have only ever heard of this in the natural birth crowd. Anyway, I would not consent to a C-section just because it had been 24 hours since my water broke, unless there were signs of illness in me or the baby. At that point, I would certainly consent to induction if I had not started laboring on my own yet.
None of my friends have gotten epidurals with their births. My SIL was lucky enough to labor with her second at home for a few hours, then get into the hospital 8 cm dilated. She gave birth within an hour and a half after 15 minutes of pushing. Knowing me and my pain tolerance, I want the epidural. I've been through two endometriosis surgeries and I am covered in scar tissue, so even now I feel like my uterus is stretching uncomfortably. I know there is a chance of having an amazing birth experience without it and I am open to that, but I am also all for medical miracles like (relatively) painless childbirth.
I was induced with my oldest. I was 18, full term, and had just moved an hour away from my hospital I was terrified of having a side of the road baby!
I was induced with my youngest at 36 weeks. I had been going in and out of labor for 4 weeks prior to being induced. My doc decided it was safe for her to come and not worth the stress my body was putting on her by starting and stopping labor 2-3 times a week.
As for drugs, I absolutely had an epidural with both my girls! I didn't even consider going med free. This time I would like to go med free but I'm not doing a thing to prepare for it (no hypno babies or other programs), other than reminding myself that I labored med free with Jonah and I lived.
I don't want to thread hijack, but this relates to what many have said ... what are the reasons for induction? I can understand that if you go too long (like 41 weeks ) you'll need it. But what are some other reasons for it? I admit I haven't researched this at all, but it is probably good to know.
On topic: My best friend said almost that exact thing when I told her I'd probably get the epi. She also got a big grin. She loved the drugs!
I was induced b/c I had GD and it was my practice's policy to not go past the due date for GD moms. I totally regretted it! I pushed for 4 hrs, they had to use the vacuum to get her out, I had a 4th degree tear and my DD had an abrasion on her head from the vacuum. I firmly believe that my body wasn't ready, hence the hard labor, and in the end she wasn't even 8lbs so I could have gone longer w/o size being an issue. I didn't have GD with my 2nd and ended up going 9 days past my due date. She came out after 30min and it was a much better recovery for me.
The title of this thread makes me think of the scene from "What to Expect When You're Expecting" when Elizabeth Banks' character goes into labor and screams at her husband, "Gary! Get me the juice!"
I was induced with my son at 37 weeks exactly (I went into preterm labor at 35 weeks but they stopped it). He started showing signs of growth restriction at 34 weeks, he was measuring 2 weeks behind on every ultrasound. My doctor watched us closely. They'd Doppler the cord blood flow on every ultrasound. She finally decided since he wasn't growing, he'd do better out of my belly than in. I started my induction at 9 am and was 2 cm dialated and I can't remember how much effaced. I have nothingto xcompare it to, but I don't think the pitocion contractions were extremely bad. My doctor scared me into getting the epidural when I did though because she said If i didn't do it soon it could be too late. I labored 4 hours without and 4 hours later I was ready to push. 15 minutes later he was out. They broke my water, stitched up my tear and I never felt a thing. The only thing I felt was the burning ring of fire... eek! I was up and walking soon after and even walked myself to my postpartum room
YES, I went into my first labor thinking "I will not get it" fast forward 5cm later and I was begging for it! I got one with my second and I will be requesting it with this labor as soon as possible.
With my first I thought I was a big baby when it comes to pain, so I was def open to the drugs. Turns out I got to the hospital at 5cm & pushed him out two hours later. No time for the epideral even if I wanted it I think. In the end I was glad I didn't need it, the thought of the needle & not being able to feel anything freaked me out. I will say that my nurse kept insisting that the epi wouldn't have helped with the pushing which I found excruciating, still not sure if that was true or not?! Hoping to just have a quick similar drug-free birth this time as well.
Re: GIVE ME THE DRUGS!!!
I'm planning to stick it out this time too just because my first labor went quickly. I would be worried about the baby having drugs on board at birth if delivery was quick. If it ended up being a long labor I would probably do something for pain because that can be a great help to get women to relax and get some rest to make it through the rest of a long labor and pushing and birth is exhausting.
ETA: I have also watched a c section in the OR & boy that needle is HORRIFYING. Just saying...
On topic: My best friend said almost that exact thing when I told her I'd probably get the epi. She also got a big grin. She loved the drugs!
I was induced for preeclampsia but I only needed the cervadil gel (which is just to ripen the cervix technically) and that threw me into active labor so I never needed pit, despite being induced.
& to answer PP question: The only reason you would want to be induced before 40-42 weeks is if there is a medical issue- preeclampsia, HELLP, GD, IUGR, and probably many others but those are what I can think of off the top of my head.
are much worse with induction and lead to an epidural in most cases. I hated the drugs. I felt paralyzed for at least two days and my recovery took much longer.... Not to mention the mysterious gigantic bruise on my back that lasted 2 years and the occasional sharp (knife-in-the-back) type pain.
2nd baby we decided for a home birth. Needless to say... I will NOT be going back to the hospital for baby #3
I wouldn't trade my homebirth experience for ANYTHING!
It was truely nothing short of amazing
@mangomimosa Thanks for all the great info. I had zero knowledge about the cervical ripening. I'm glad everything went ok with your SIL!
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Yuuuuck, the stitching was hands down the worst part of when I cracked my skull (besides the actual cracking, obviously.) You can't be put under with head trauma, so I felt every lovely stitch. That feeling still haunts me. Now imagining feeling that times ten in my crotch... NOPE.
I'm so sorry that happened to you! There isn't anything they can do if it wears off? I'm a newb so I don't fully understand the time frames and why it's not okay to have an epidural past a certain point.
I was numbed with a small injection to do a few stitches and I don't really remember feeling any of that either.
Maybe the rush of oxytocin helps that, either way once that babes on your chest you pretty much forget all that is even happening down there, haha.
Water broke at home at 5am. Contractions started off very managable, but by 3pm I couldn't handle it anymore!!! I was that loud moaning woman, I couldn't believe it was me making all that noise lol. I got my epi, and my husband said I was like a whole new person. I told him it was awesome and that he should get one lol. The epidural really helped me relax, and I actually slept for a little while. Which was helpful since i ended up laboring for 22 hours!!!!!
Still don't know if I'll 100% get one this time. But I can't imagine doing it without the epi. I guess if time allows, but who knows with the 2nd birth.
One of my issues is not having control. It's completely psychological. Being stuck to the bed because my legs don't work sounds like my worst nightmare come true. I'm hoping once at the hospital I won't care very much about needing to walk around.
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The epidural is a medical marvel ladies! But sometimes your labor can go so fast there's no time for it, and that's just fine as well. I had an epidural with my first born and I absolutely LOVED it! I went from 2-10cm in 3 hrs and pushed like a champ because epidural wore off by then. I'll be ready for epidural again or all natural if I go thru labor quickly.
And as to how long your water can be broken before you need a C-section… controversial topic, no black & white answer. Varies by doctor & by region. I have seen them want to have labor started and active by 24 hours. It is not common for your water to break before labor starts; stories of women laboring for days usually involved intact membranes. There are definitely women who will go a week after water breaks, and as long as there is no sign of fever, it may be safe to continue. I have only ever heard of this in the natural birth crowd. Anyway, I would not consent to a C-section just because it had been 24 hours since my water broke, unless there were signs of illness in me or the baby. At that point, I would certainly consent to induction if I had not started laboring on my own yet.
If i didn't do it soon it could be too late. I labored 4 hours without and 4 hours later I was ready to push. 15 minutes later he was out. They broke my water, stitched up my tear and I never felt a thing. The only thing I felt was the burning ring of fire... eek! I was up and walking soon after and even walked myself to my postpartum room
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GIVE ME THE FUCKING EPIDURAL.
That and my mom told me she had epidurals with my brothers and I and she told me it was the best decision she made.