I really disliked anything graco but that may be personal preference. When in the market for car seats I usually run them past my uncle who is Phillys fire chief because they really know their stuff as far as car seats go. You can go by your local fire station and ask opinions and they will also help to make sure your seat is properly installed and will install it for you for free if needed. I think that's something everyone should take advantage of
I just bought this stroller too and REALLY wish they were compatible with britax. I might get the chicco keyfit if I don't go with the uppa baby mesa. I heard the Mesa is really heavy though and of course costs way more
I really disliked anything graco but that may be personal preference. When in the market for car seats I usually run them past my uncle who is Phillys fire chief because they really know their stuff as far as car seats go. You can go by your local fire station and ask opinions and they will also help to make sure your seat is properly installed and will install it for you for free if needed. I think that's something everyone should take advantage of
I'm actually really curious why you don't like graco? I got their pack and play and it seemed pretty nice! They have varying designs which I found there are several cute ones. Is it the name brand thing? Or a safety thing you've come across? Definitely keen to know since I was looking at them for a car seat!
I got the key fit 30 infant car seat. Decided to go with the infant one after some research and recommendations on the board. Will move up to a regular one when baby outgrows the keyfit. (Technically, I ended up with 2 keyfits, but that's because the extra base we wanted would have run about 90$ new but we found a deal on craigslist)
And now I'm irrationally annoyed they don't have any all black chicco keyfits. One reason I got the vista was because of how sleek it was and the all black is my favorite.
I really disliked anything graco but that may be personal preference. When in the market for car seats I usually run them past my uncle who is Phillys fire chief because they really know their stuff as far as car seats go. You can go by your local fire station and ask opinions and they will also help to make sure your seat is properly installed and will install it for you for free if needed. I think that's something everyone should take advantage of
I'm actually really curious why you don't like graco? I got their pack and play and it seemed pretty nice! They have varying designs which I found there are several cute ones. Is it the name brand thing? Or a safety thing you've come across? Definitely keen to know since I was looking at them for a car seat!
I got the key fit 30 infant car seat. Decided to go with the infant one after some research and recommendations on the board. Will move up to a regular one when baby outgrows the keyfit. (Technically, I ended up with 2 keyfits, but that's because the extra base we wanted would have run about 90$ new but we found a deal on craigslist)
I guess it's more a quality thing. I'm speaking strictly about car seats and mind you I haven't been in the market for baby stuff in ten years and I'm sure they have made great strides since then. I saw a really cute graco pnp at toys r us for 80 dollars!!! It was a floor model and it had the bassinet thing in it and all kinds of stuff. Had it not been pink I would have snapped it up but my h was overly concerned that if we have a boy we won't use it( as if an infant cares what color his pnp is lol). I just remember graco having a bad rep back then as far as the safety of their car seats there were many recalls but again don't let my opinion sway you because this was a decade ago. Do go to your local fire house though because for me I felt loads better knowing for sure that my seat was properly installed. My uncle says he sees improper installation a lot in his line of work and it can be the difference between life and death in an accident god forbid but we know these things happen so better safe than sorry
I really disliked anything graco but that may be personal preference. When in the market for car seats I usually run them past my uncle who is Phillys fire chief because they really know their stuff as far as car seats go. You can go by your local fire station and ask opinions and they will also help to make sure your seat is properly installed and will install it for you for free if needed. I think that's something everyone should take advantage of
I'm actually really curious why you don't like graco? I got their pack and play and it seemed pretty nice! They have varying designs which I found there are several cute ones. Is it the name brand thing? Or a safety thing you've come across? Definitely keen to know since I was looking at them for a car seat!
I got the key fit 30 infant car seat. Decided to go with the infant one after some research and recommendations on the board. Will move up to a regular one when baby outgrows the keyfit. (Technically, I ended up with 2 keyfits, but that's because the extra base we wanted would have run about 90$ new but we found a deal on craigslist)
I guess it's more a quality thing. I'm speaking strictly about car seats and mind you I haven't been in the market for baby stuff in ten years and I'm sure they have made great strides since then. I saw a really cute graco pnp at toys r us for 80 dollars!!! It was a floor model and it had the bassinet thing in it and all kinds of stuff. Had it not been pink I would have snapped it up but my h was overly concerned that if we have a boy we won't use it( as if an infant cares what color his pnp is lol). I just remember graco having a bad rep back then as far as the safety of their car seats there were many recalls but again don't let my opinion sway you because this was a decade ago. Do go to your local fire house though because for me I felt loads better knowing for sure that my seat was properly installed. My uncle says he sees improper installation a lot in his line of work and it can be the difference between life and death in an accident god forbid but we know these things happen so better safe than sorry
That's good! I thought you were referring to all graco products. Was concerned since I also have my eye on a couple other graco items and I definitely take people's opinions and knowledge to heart on here (it was a driving factor for me ending up with the keyfit).
Firehouse is a great idea. Do you just show up and they'll show you how to install it, securely? That will be super helpful to know before we move! I'd read a lot of praise about graco car seat reviews for current models. But need to find a sight to compare the safety I know someone listed one before, but can't remember where it was listed (probably on the other car seat thread).
@janda426 I love the chicco elm color (a darker green) but it was so expensive on amazon that I ended up going for the bright green (can't believe there's a difference in price for colors!). Then the next day, I found the chicco in elm color for sale on Craigslist (with base and snap stroller) for a reasonable price (150$). You may want to check last year's model colors. I doubt they have it, but you might luck out with the color more close to what you're looking for. Also, go check out the black and grey one at Buy Buy Baby, because it's actually pretty nice/sleek in person. More so than I thought it looked online (and remember you can price match to amazon there).
@DragonflyDreaming yes you usually can just show up at the station and some firehouses even have events where you can score free safety stuff for your baby. Fire fighters have a lot of down time in between emergencies and are usually more than happy to help someone avoid being in an emergency situation
Graco actually makes some of the best carseats on the market. There are some you may want to avoid but some that are among the best. Do your research and then go check some put in person. Iwouldn't discount an entire line because of a reputation they may have had 10 years ago.
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I have no experience but I was looking into the chico keyfit 30 carseat/stroller combo. A friend is giving me her chico keyfit 30 (she hasnt been in an accident) so hopefully seeing it and installing it might give me more of an idea if I like it. Car seats and strollers give me anxiety!
@DragonflyDreaming yes you usually can just show up at the station and some firehouses even have events where you can score free safety stuff for your baby. Fire fighters have a lot of down time in between emergencies and are usually more than happy to help someone avoid being in an emergency situation
I would call first and make sure they are actually car seat safety trained. There are some around here that are but definitely not all.
I agree with @honkytonk_kid, go to car seat.org and search for a car seat tech in your area. Most fire stations and police stations don't know squat around here. My husbands a cop and their station is clueless except for the laws.
@kellbell1982 I also hate graco car seats! They're just heavy and bulky IMO. I loved our safety 1st onboard air.
@DragonflyDreaming yes you usually can just show up at the station and some firehouses even have events where you can score free safety stuff for your baby. Fire fighters have a lot of down time in between emergencies and are usually more than happy to help someone avoid being in an emergency situation
I would call first and make sure they are actually car seat safety trained. There are some around here that are but definitely not all.
I was going to say the same thing. My husband used to be a firefighter and none of them where trained to do anything with car seats. People would show up all the time and they would have to turn them away.
DH is actually the guy who trains the car seat tech instructors in the state. Not all cops and firefighters are certified- def check the link provided.
That being said, we had a Chicco Keyfit for the first 2 and will either get the same this time or the Graco Click Connect (bc I like the patterns/ colors better and DH is fine with Graco car seats).
@052806 earlier my sister had mentioned shes a self-proclaimed car seat snob and she would love to work as someone to trains others on carseats. I didnt realise that was actually a job. How did your husband get into that and what qualifications did he need to meet?
@052806 earlier my sister had mentioned shes a self-proclaimed car seat snob and she would love to work as someone to trains others on carseats. I didnt realise that was actually a job. How did your husband get into that and what qualifications did he need to meet?
Haha these people are certified techs, not just car seat aficionados. The classes are offered through SafeKids.org. My husband is a cop, was sent to the course, excelled- and got really into it, eventually ran the carseat checkpoint for his pd, and became an instructor after more training.
There's a whole community of untrained "car seat snobs" on car seats for littles, and carseats.org. Some know their stuff, many don't.
He is now a captain and doesn't have much time to devote to carseats anymore, but he's still an up to date instructor.
I had a Graco with my son 2 years ago and I loved it!! The infant carrier clicked into the stroller and a swing which was so convenient. I will most likely get another set for this baby!
We are planning on getting a peg preggo, it has the highest safety rating (in canada) but it's also one of the most expensive at $300 for an infant seat. We are planning on getting the uppa baby vista 2015 model which currently had no adaptors for any car seats, hopefully that changes soon or LO will be exclusively in the bassinet which isn't as convenient. I've read about the Mesa carrier but I don't think we have them here?
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I was pretty set on Graco stuff, but after speaking to a sales person at Buy Buy Baby she sold me on the Britax stuff. She mentioned that Graco has had a good number of recalls recently and that they can be difficult to work with at times. We went with the Britax B-Agile travel system and the Britax marathon convertible car seat. I may just have been gullible, but I had read good things about Britax so I may have been an easy sell. I know this doesn't really reply to the OP, but maybe to some others in regards to Graco opinions.
Good Morning Ladies, Just got to work and started reading a few of the threads and this was one that I have a vested interest in.As a firefighter and a certified child passenger safety technician I always try to give as much information as I possibly can that may help educate other moms to be in making the right decision for their child's safety.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
1. Please never buy a used car seat!It's very easy to see a less expensive price tag and want to save some money but we all must remember that this isn't just an accessory for your car but instead a safety device that WILL save your child's life.Not knowing the history of a car seat is very dangerous, you don't know if it's ever been in an accident (if it has where air bags have deployed it should be replaced).If money is an issue, there are still a lot of good car seats in a reasonable price range that you can buy new.Also, many states offer discounted seats for families that can't afford a car seat on their own.
2.While going through the class I was able to try out many different car seat makes and models and also ask my instructors what they preferred/ owned.I am going to be purchasing a KeyFit 30, it is lite, easy to install has a wide range of weight for rear facing and the strolled can go from an infant stroller to an umbrella stroller (I'm all about multi purposing items).I have also heard and practiced with Britax.This is another great infant seat and there convertible will be what I change to when the nugget is too big for the keyfit.Britax is also great for weight ranges in keeping the child rear facing for a good amount of time. (It is best to keep the LO rear facing as long as the seat will allow).Chicco has no recalls on any of their car seats and Britax has very very very few.
3. I encourage everyone to go to their local hospital or fire station and see about having a CPS certified technician check and show proper installation techniques.A few quick tips for installation:There is no better method for installation between seat belt or LATCH.It should be whatever lends to a better more secure installation and whichever YOU can install the best on your own. Please remember that car seats are never meant to be installed with both the seat belt and the latch method together."Yes you may think... but it's safer having multiple methods, it isn't?"Cars have not been crash tested using both methods together which means in a crash who knows what could happen and insurance will not cover improper installation.Most/ nearly all cars are not meant to have a car seat installed with LATCH in the middle seat.If you are unsure about your make and model either check your cars manual and make sure.If you don't have the manual you can go to https://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/ and find it there.Another good thing to remember is there should be less than 1" of movement front and back and side to side.Finally please remember that anything that isn't secured down inside the vehicle can be considered a projectile in an accident.Things such as tissue boxes have been known to cause SERIOUS injuries to children in the car during an accident. If you don't need it, don't have it in the car.If you absolutely believe that it is something you need then bolt it, strap it or secure it in some way so that it doesn't hurt anyone in the vehicle.
4. If anyone has any questions please feel free to message me and ask away.I can give you as much guidance as I can over the internet.If you feel you need more, than I again encourage you to visit your local hospital, fire department or police station and have them answer your questions.If you want to visit a car seat check station you can go to https://www.safekids.org/find-your-safe-kids and you can find out what events are going on around you or technicians available in your local area.
It is always better to ask questions and find out what you can do better to protect you're LO than to feel prideful and rely on luck for their safety.Good luck March moms to be!
-Sorry for the length, but I am very passionate about child safety. Ihave seen far too many accidents and that have had devistating outcomes.
I've seen this mentioned a couple times, but no car seat is safer than another as long as long as it's installed and used correctly. All car seats must pass the same safety tests. A $40 car seat is just as safe as a $400 seat, the more expensive seat will obviously have more bells and whistles.
Graco most recently had a recall on their crotch buckle. I think evenflo had a similar recall recently.
I had a Graco Snugride with DD, and I was really happy with it. We got the smaller one, rather than the Snugride 35. We had to move her up to a convertible sooner than we would have, but I liked that the smaller one was lighter and easier to carry around when she was little.
I don't have a Vista stroller, but I will give you advice based on friends' experiences: they are HEAVY and a PITA to lug in and out of the trunk. My friends mostly had Snap N Go's for their infant seats rather than dealing with the hassle of the big stroller at that stage. I also went that route, and was very happy. A Snap N Go is not very expensive, and IMHO, well worth the cost in terms of convenience.
@Haps92907 the snap and go is the way I'm going with the infant seat, but have you heard what strollers are manageable after that stage? Or did your friend have a good pick for that? Thanks!
This thread is awesome. We absolutely have more research to do! One question for all the STMs- do you have just one? Or one in your hat and one in your DH? Or for the ones with the water bases do you have a base in each?
I'm nervous about taking them in and out of cars...
DragonflyDreaming I haven't decided just yet which of the Britax models I'm going with however I am researching all of the G-4 series. I particulary like the Boulevard so far, but it all depends on price range and what changes will occur when upgrading the chicken nugget to a bigger seat. Hope that helps.
colleen4019 I am a FTM but hubby and I are definitely going to get 2 bases for our infant seat. One for his 4-runner and one for mine. This way we don't have to worry about reinstalling each time. At the events that I've done I've had multiple family members come in to get their car seat bases and seats checked so that they know that they are all properly installed. Good luck with the research.
@DragonflyDreaming, I think there are pros and cons to any stroller after the Snap N Go/infant seat stage. Some people love Uppababy Vista and BOB strollers, which have a lot of features, stability, and comfort. BOB is nice since it works as both an everyday stroller and a jogger. These bigger, fuller feature strollers are EXPENSIVE. I had a City Mini, which I love. It was a lot less expensive, is comparatively light and super easy to fold and carry. It's also relatively narrow and easy to maneuver in tight spaces, which was great when we lived in the city. Now that we're in the suburbs, that's less critical.
I also bought a used Bumbleride Indie a year or so ago, and now we use that most often. It's great for hiking and off road, also for jogging.
My advice is to do a lot of research on the options and try to nail down what things are most important to you - features, price, weight, off-road ability, cup holder, etc. - and go from there.
Re: Which car seat?
I got the key fit 30 infant car seat. Decided to go with the infant one after some research and recommendations on the board. Will move up to a regular one when baby outgrows the keyfit. (Technically, I ended up with 2 keyfits, but that's because the extra base we wanted would have run about 90$ new but we found a deal on craigslist)
Firehouse is a great idea. Do you just show up and they'll show you how to install it, securely? That will be super helpful to know before we move! I'd read a lot of praise about graco car seat reviews for current models. But need to find a sight to compare the safety I know someone listed one before, but can't remember where it was listed (probably on the other car seat thread).
@janda426 I love the chicco elm color (a darker green) but it was so expensive on amazon that I ended up going for the bright green (can't believe there's a difference in price for colors!). Then the next day, I found the chicco in elm color for sale on Craigslist (with base and snap stroller) for a reasonable price (150$). You may want to check last year's model colors. I doubt they have it, but you might luck out with the color more close to what you're looking for. Also, go check out the black and grey one at Buy Buy Baby, because it's actually pretty nice/sleek in person. More so than I thought it looked online (and remember you can price match to amazon there).
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I’m a modern man, a man for the millennium. Digital and smoke free. A diversified multi-cultural, post-modern deconstruction that is anatomically and ecologically incorrect. I’ve been up linked and downloaded, I’ve been inputted and outsourced, I know the upside of downsizing, I know the downside of upgrading. I’m a high-tech low-life. A cutting edge, state-of-the-art bi-coastal multi-tasker and I can give you a gigabyte in a nanosecond! I’m new wave, but I’m old school and my inner child is outward bound. I’m a hot-wired, heat seeking, warm-hearted cool customer, voice activated and bio-degradable. I interface with my database, my database is in cyberspace, so I’m interactive, I’m hyperactive and from time to time I’m radioactive.
I was going to say the same thing. My husband used to be a firefighter and none of them where trained to do anything with car seats. People would show up all the time and they would have to turn them away.
My SIL has this and I heard great things. It was second on our list.
https://www.safercar.gov/cpsApp/cps/index.htm
I know our state police recently promoted a car seat check day. They paired with a local safety organization to do it.
Haha these people are certified techs, not just car seat aficionados. The classes are offered through SafeKids.org. My husband is a cop, was sent to the course, excelled- and got really into it, eventually ran the carseat checkpoint for his pd, and became an instructor after more training.
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Good Morning Ladies, Just got to work and started reading a few of the threads and this was one that I have a vested interest in. As a firefighter and a certified child passenger safety technician I always try to give as much information as I possibly can that may help educate other moms to be in making the right decision for their child's safety.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
1. Please never buy a used car seat! It's very easy to see a less expensive price tag and want to save some money but we all must remember that this isn't just an accessory for your car but instead a safety device that WILL save your child's life. Not knowing the history of a car seat is very dangerous, you don't know if it's ever been in an accident (if it has where air bags have deployed it should be replaced). If money is an issue, there are still a lot of good car seats in a reasonable price range that you can buy new. Also, many states offer discounted seats for families that can't afford a car seat on their own.
2. While going through the class I was able to try out many different car seat makes and models and also ask my instructors what they preferred/ owned. I am going to be purchasing a KeyFit 30, it is lite, easy to install has a wide range of weight for rear facing and the strolled can go from an infant stroller to an umbrella stroller (I'm all about multi purposing items). I have also heard and practiced with Britax. This is another great infant seat and there convertible will be what I change to when the nugget is too big for the keyfit. Britax is also great for weight ranges in keeping the child rear facing for a good amount of time. (It is best to keep the LO rear facing as long as the seat will allow). Chicco has no recalls on any of their car seats and Britax has very very very few.
3. I encourage everyone to go to their local hospital or fire station and see about having a CPS certified technician check and show proper installation techniques. A few quick tips for installation: There is no better method for installation between seat belt or LATCH. It should be whatever lends to a better more secure installation and whichever YOU can install the best on your own. Please remember that car seats are never meant to be installed with both the seat belt and the latch method together. "Yes you may think... but it's safer having multiple methods, it isn't?" Cars have not been crash tested using both methods together which means in a crash who knows what could happen and insurance will not cover improper installation. Most/ nearly all cars are not meant to have a car seat installed with LATCH in the middle seat. If you are unsure about your make and model either check your cars manual and make sure. If you don't have the manual you can go to https://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/ and find it there. Another good thing to remember is there should be less than 1" of movement front and back and side to side. Finally please remember that anything that isn't secured down inside the vehicle can be considered a projectile in an accident. Things such as tissue boxes have been known to cause SERIOUS injuries to children in the car during an accident. If you don't need it, don't have it in the car. If you absolutely believe that it is something you need then bolt it, strap it or secure it in some way so that it doesn't hurt anyone in the vehicle.
4. If anyone has any questions please feel free to message me and ask away. I can give you as much guidance as I can over the internet. If you feel you need more, than I again encourage you to visit your local hospital, fire department or police station and have them answer your questions. If you want to visit a car seat check station you can go to https://www.safekids.org/find-your-safe-kids and you can find out what events are going on around you or technicians available in your local area.
It is always better to ask questions and find out what you can do better to protect you're LO than to feel prideful and rely on luck for their safety. Good luck March moms to be!
-Sorry for the length, but I am very passionate about child safety. Ihave seen far too many accidents and that have had devistating outcomes.
I had a Graco Snugride with DD, and I was really happy with it. We got the smaller one, rather than the Snugride 35. We had to move her up to a convertible sooner than we would have, but I liked that the smaller one was lighter and easier to carry around when she was little.
I don't have a Vista stroller, but I will give you advice based on friends' experiences: they are HEAVY and a PITA to lug in and out of the trunk. My friends mostly had Snap N Go's for their infant seats rather than dealing with the hassle of the big stroller at that stage. I also went that route, and was very happy. A Snap N Go is not very expensive, and IMHO, well worth the cost in terms of convenience.
I'm nervous about taking them in and out of cars...
@DragonflyDreaming, I think there are pros and cons to any stroller after the Snap N Go/infant seat stage. Some people love Uppababy Vista and BOB strollers, which have a lot of features, stability, and comfort. BOB is nice since it works as both an everyday stroller and a jogger. These bigger, fuller feature strollers are EXPENSIVE. I had a City Mini, which I love. It was a lot less expensive, is comparatively light and super easy to fold and carry. It's also relatively narrow and easy to maneuver in tight spaces, which was great when we lived in the city. Now that we're in the suburbs, that's less critical.
I also bought a used Bumbleride Indie a year or so ago, and now we use that most often. It's great for hiking and off road, also for jogging.
My advice is to do a lot of research on the options and try to nail down what things are most important to you - features, price, weight, off-road ability, cup holder, etc. - and go from there.