Yes, to back up @Saragoeswest she's saying a strict interpretation. However, that commonly means the New Testament, not the Old. There's lots of theology that goes into this and I don't think we're really trying to get into that conversation here.
I also wanted to state that I think the comment about following a book blindly was unfair. Not all Christians are doing that. I surely wouldn't characterize myself as following it blindly. I have done quite a bit of studying it, studying the context, historicity and original language as well. I'm well informed on my beliefs.
Really, I'm trying to keep out of a debate on actual religion because I think this is a poor venue. But unfortunately, when the most ill equipped people usually make so much noise I feel compelled to step in and offer another perspective.
I really didn't mean ALL religious people follow it blindly. I just know people (IRL) that do and I don't agree with it.
Not to get into a big theological debate, but I would characterize someone as believing in religion if they attend church. I know there's a difference between belief in a higher power and being religious, and in my mind the line is attendance/membership in an organized body such as a church.
Which is to say, I agree with pretty much everything posted in this thread with the exception of the posts of one person....
@pnwlover12 Yeah I totally see the clarifying posts now, unfortunately it took me a year to write out what I was saying and in the meantime it got cleared up!
Really I just wanted to provide another perspective because I felt like someone else was poorly representing my own beliefs and that is frustrating.
Totally understandable! I feel bad that my initial post came off so brash and insensitive.
I guess it is a matter of semantics, but seriously?
How can you say you believe in God and that you aren't religious in the same sentence? belief in God = religious. believe in many Gods = religious, though not Christian.
I mean, sure, you could believe in God and not be a member of an organized religion...which would mean not going to church...but you would still be religious.
Maybe that's my UO for the day. Though Webster's agrees.
Yeah, I'm on this side of the fence, too, but I am tired, and I also am not well-versed in religion anyway. Is it God vs. "higher power"? Is it saying "I'm religious" to some people means "I go to church?" I don't know.
Then, I just SUPER confused myself, because I know people who believe in god, but I wouldn't really say they are religious, and now I am on the other side of the fence again.
I'm hyperventilating. I don't know how I feel at all now.
Yes. I'm not saying my babies are measuring two weeks ahead (based on head and leg measurements) and are therefore developmentally ahead. I do have bigger children because both sides of our family are taller with larger bones. I'm saying my babies develop ahead based on medical data. This is not true for everyone and my point is that we don't know someone's medical history and shouldn't be so quick to tell them they need to stay pregnant.
On the flip side, if people don't provide all the context, they shouldn't ask questions and expect to get the best answers. Or just ask their doctors and don't bother consulting people in the computer.
I completely agree when it comes to people asking specific medical advice. I think it's different if someone says they did something and then are told they shouldn't have because it isn't the standard at their gestational age. There are a ton of variables in pregnancy.
Same here. Even though I'm a poseur and eat veggie sushi.
I take it one step further though: I hate seafood. Any type. And before anyone asks (because this ALWAYS HAPPENS), that means I don't eat crab or lobster or shrimp either. Because those are of the sea. Hence, seafood.
This is more of a FFFC but I figured it well change the subject... my sister and I called the cops on a family last night because they had their infant (at most 6 months old) in the back seat sitting in someone's lap... not in a car seat! The kid that was holding the baby couldn't have been more than 14. It made me so mad! I doubt it's a UO around here though. Also, I want to clarify, I don't tend to meddle in other people's lives but this was something I could not overlook. :-S
I only like california rolls and the ones that have some tempura element. I'm not sure those really count as sushi.
I also only like the rolls that are mostly cooked (seared, deep fried, whatever).
And how dare you @pnwlover12, you are near Seattle dammit. Don't you know how good the sushi is here?!
I know, I can't help it! I love shellfish, give me shrimp, crab and lobster anyday. But I dislike most fish (especially Salmon. Yuck.) Which sort of kills Sushi.
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
@Crawford411 I think you misunderstood me. I didn't suggest minimizing contact with people who love LO - I said it's about balance and following your instincts.
It's important for the new family to bond, and some grandparents are the "I'll hold the baby so you can catch up on housework" type, or they want to be holding baby anytime she isn't nursing.
It's a balance - grandparents need to be sensitive to a new mother's need to be very near her baby, to be the one to respond to her cries, etc. Some grandparents are naturally great at this, and others need a wake-up call!
I hate 95% of Mexican food. Its the same 10 ingredients jumbled around over and over. I like real Mexican food slightly better than the dumbed down version we have in Columbus, but its never a top choice for me.
Mexican drinks, however, are delicious.
I'm the opposite. Love the food, hate the drinks. But you are correct. It's the same ingredients over and over, and I don't know the difference between all the different things. Burrito vs. Soft taco vs. Taquito?
5 cycles of "TTC" - 3 intentional, 2 not so intentional. 5 BFPs. My rainbow arrived 10/15/14. TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
I'm not religious. I claim no religion. It's a relationship. I have not treated any one like garbage. Since i first posted and then apologized. This is nuts. I didn't want attention, I posted what I was going through. Not for sympathy, to get it off my chest.
It's not about saving your self for marriage. But the one God shows you is the one. It shouldn't be about sex at all. I know she will make her own choices. I'm simply trying to set her up to make the right ones.
This is what they are talking about when they say your posts contradict each other. You posted that you are Christian and about God and now you are saying that you aren't religious and claim no religion. These are contradictions. Does that help princess?
Also, I have seen you be flat out nasty to groups of women on here multiple times (and I don't even keep up on all the threads). Do you remember when you said you didn't feel bad for people with heart burn because they deserved it for eating bad food or flirting with married men?
Being a Christian. My little girl gets called a princess. A lot, but not the kind of this world. A princess of the king lord in heaven. She knows the difference and it's important to me. So when the day comes to teach about sex and boys, she will get a promise ring or purity ring. Promising one day when she is ready God will send her a husband. And she will be her husbands queen.
So that hopefully she will respect herself in those troubled teen years to wait and not complicate things.
Flame on.
Look, I'm going to call this for what it is. Your contradictions are in the way you allow yourself to be treated and what you say above. Chica, learn to respect yourself and get that respect from your own SO before you can go ahead and teach that to your baby girls. That's all.
No one is is questioning your belief in God, or the fact that you call your kid a princess.
THIS. PLUS. ALSO. The fact that she's a Christian and treating a bunch of us like garbage.
But. That's my issue with the church where I live.
I'll go ahead and say it, since it's half out of my mouth. I am not religious. My husband was raised Catholic, and I was raised Methodist. We both believe, in adulthood, that the Bible is fiction. That is OUR belief.
We do not care ONE BIT if someone else has a different belief. Don't get it all twisted up in here. But, it's hard for me to swallow when avid church-goers cite the Bible or religion for reasons they do things...then turn around and do something fucking horrible, like hate an entire class of human beings.
And I REALIZE not every Christian feels this way. I REALLY do. And my annoyance with the hypocritical ones comes after I actually observe something like this happening--I don't just see someone who is religious and immediately hate them for believing what they do. Juuuuuust to cover my bases here.
And, lastly, I believe that "saving yourself for your husband and Christ" doesn't work across the board. It leads to unwanted pregnancies because abstinence-only protection was taught. And this comes from someone who waited until she was 22, just because.
I'm not religious. I claim no religion. It's a relationship. I have not treated any one like garbage. Since i first posted and then apologized. This is nuts. I didn't want attention, I posted what I was going through. Not for sympathy, to get it off my chest.
It's not about saving your self for marriage. But the one God shows you is the one. It shouldn't be about sex at all.
I know she will make her own choices.
I'm simply trying to set her up to make the right ones.
The right choices for you. Kids have free agency to make their own choices and if you force your agenda on your child they will just pretend they are going along and do what they want. Best of luck to you with that.
@BreandMikewedding How are they able to tell that your placenta starts deteriorating prior to 40 weeks? I didn't know that was something they could keep an eye on. Legitimately curious!
@deezidee04 they looked for signs during ultrasounds. I don't know exactly what they see that tells them that there is a concern but I know they looked at my placenta.
@SPurp13 I Had A Lot Of Depression During My Last Pregnancy And Then It Went Away When I delivered. There is a name for this, but my brain is in overload from trying to translate other posts. (Ignore the random capitals. My phone likes to do this on occasion.)
Also, can everyone please slow down? I'm struggling trying to keep up with this thread. For every page I read there are two more pages of new posts!
@Crawford411 I think you misunderstood me. I didn't suggest minimizing contact with people who love LO - I said it's about balance and following your instincts.
It's important for the new family to bond, and some grandparents are the "I'll hold the baby so you can catch up on housework" type, or they want to be holding baby anytime she isn't nursing.
It's a balance - grandparents need to be sensitive to a new mother's need to be very near her baby, to be the one to respond to her cries, etc. Some grandparents are naturally great at this, and others need a wake-up call!
I really like this mentality. I have been a bit nervous about visitors soley for the reason I know they will want to snuggle with the baby. And I want them to...but I also want to snuggle with my own baby! DHs parents are from out of town so they are staying with us for 3 days and I don't want to completely lose those three days snuggling with my baby. I think she and I may need to have extra long nursing sessions in the nursery so we can snuggle in peace!
I hate 95% of Mexican food. Its the same 10 ingredients jumbled around over and over. I like real Mexican food slightly better than the dumbed down version we have in Columbus, but its never a top choice for me.
Mexican drinks, however, are delicious.
:-O what?!! How is this possible? You must have bad Mexican food! We have great mexican food here and I could eat it every day (probably multiple times a day) I might.even choose Mexican food over sex sometimes.
@Crawford411 I think you misunderstood me. I didn't suggest minimizing contact with people who love LO - I said it's about balance and following your instincts.
It's important for the new family to bond, and some grandparents are the "I'll hold the baby so you can catch up on housework" type, or they want to be holding baby anytime she isn't nursing.
It's a balance - grandparents need to be sensitive to a new mother's need to be very near her baby, to be the one to respond to her cries, etc. Some grandparents are naturally great at this, and others need a wake-up call!
I feel like you're talking about my in laws!!! They DEFINITELY needed a wake up call with DD and I'm sure with this one!
Gotta be strong and not afraid to speak up (I learned that the hard way when I BARELY saw DD at her Baptism, and the very first time she ever put up an ornament MIL was holding her getting a pic)......
Re: ::UO::
Which is to say, I agree with pretty much everything posted in this thread with the exception of the posts of one person....
Then, I just SUPER confused myself, because I know people who believe in god, but I wouldn't really say they are religious, and now I am on the other side of the fence again.
I'm hyperventilating. I don't know how I feel at all now.
I completely agree when it comes to people asking specific medical advice. I think it's different if someone says they did something and then are told they shouldn't have because it isn't the standard at their gestational age. There are a ton of variables in pregnancy.
There. Booyah.
Also, I want to clarify, I don't tend to meddle in other people's lives but this was something I could not overlook. :-S
I also only like the rolls that are mostly cooked (seared, deep fried, whatever).
And how dare you @pnwlover12, you are near Seattle dammit. Don't you know how good the sushi is here?!
I know, I can't help it! I love shellfish, give me shrimp, crab and lobster anyday. But I dislike most fish (especially Salmon. Yuck.) Which sort of kills Sushi.All children should be protected. It's not meddling if it's a child's safety at risk!
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
It's important for the new family to bond, and some grandparents are the "I'll hold the baby so you can catch up on housework" type, or they want to be holding baby anytime she isn't nursing.
It's a balance - grandparents need to be sensitive to a new mother's need to be very near her baby, to be the one to respond to her cries, etc. Some grandparents are naturally great at this, and others need a wake-up call!
TFMC 08.02.13 at 19+ weeks. Everyday I grieve for my little Olive.
Also, I have seen you be flat out nasty to groups of women on here multiple times (and I don't even keep up on all the threads). Do you remember when you said you didn't feel bad for people with heart burn because they deserved it for eating bad food or flirting with married men?
Also, can everyone please slow down? I'm struggling trying to keep up with this thread. For every page I read there are two more pages of new posts!
Purp you are awesome. That is all.
Haha... Master baiter....
I feel like you're talking about my in laws!!! They DEFINITELY needed a wake up call with DD and I'm sure with this one!
Gotta be strong and not afraid to speak up (I learned that the hard way when I BARELY saw DD at her Baptism, and the very first time she ever put up an ornament MIL was holding her getting a pic)......