There's just way too much speculation involved with going by her LMP. Even if she ALWAYS has clockwork cycles (have you actually been keeping track since you started getting periods OP?) there's still no way to know when she ovulated. Maybe she has a 10 day LP. That only puts the estimated EED her a week off which is perfectly fine.
I absolutely think that she should talk to her doctor about then issues that Nature mentioned so they can be cautious, but the ultrasound data is still the most reliable information they have at this point.
This.
OP (stands for "original poster", if you didn't know) - I would say that it is probably okay to keep your current estimated due date based on the u/s, but I would DEFINITELY mention it to the doctor that it very well could be earlier and baby is just measuring small, and to make sure to mark that your baby may have a "real" due date as early as January 13th.
As others mentioned, the main reasons it would be important is if you go into labor in early January, you may actually be full term rather than pre term and methods to stop labor would be unnecessary.
More importantly, if you go past your current due date, you would potentially already be 2 weeks past your "real" due date if your LMP is closer to accurate (for the sake of argument, let's just suppose neither is completely accurate and the "real" due date based on ovulation lies somewhere in between them, and you'll never know exactly when, and it really doesn't matter).
If you go past Jan 13th, that's fine regardless of whether your LMP or dating u/s is more accurate. The risk is if you go further than 2 weeks past your "real" due date. So I would let your doctors know that, considering the dating ultrasound may be off by a few weeks, you really don't want to be allowed to continue the pregnancy past January 27th (or earlier), and see what they say. Even though some doctors may allow longer with your late January estimated due date, considering it may already be past the "real" due date, it is likely safer at that point to induce just in case as you would be full term regardless of estimated, LMP, or "real" due date.
Edit: In case anyone didn't do the math, I am suggesting she suggest to her doctors that they consider induction AFTER her current estimated due date. So at the earliest, it would be 40 weeks. At the latest 42 weeks. Neither would risk inducing pre-term, but it would prevent possibly going into 42+ week scenarios that don't always end well. Again, good info for her doctors to have. She isn't the first to not be sure of her due date, so it isn't a panic situation, but it's good for her caregivers to have ALL the facts.
I already said that I think you should trust the doctor and the ultrasound, but I wanted to add that my EDD is based on solely on ultrasound as well.cI didn't have an LMP date because my period had not returned after having my son due to breastfeeding. I also don't know the exact date of conception. I trust that the ultrasound is somewhat accurate and am not worried about it at all.
ok, well none of that is anything I haven't heard from you before, except for the labor buddies issue. Yes, I was joking about that, because we both thought that the concept of labor buddies was silly and given our opposite perspectives on birth experience I thought the idea of us updating each other was funny. If you were personally offended by that, I genuinely apologize because I did not want to actually make you feel bad. I was trying to make light of the gap between us which was my weird way of trying to lessen what I perceived as hostility between us.
I have never tried to say that I think unassisted birth is the "safest" option. As you know, we all chose things for ourselves that involve weighing out various risks/benefits which are intensely personal and include things like personal comfort level on a physical/emotional level, and that isn't the same between two people even in two similar situations! Statistical analysis will not account for these things which is why ultimately I champion women's right to sovereignty over their own bodies, even when it goes against what your doctor or a study is telling you is the 'safest' thing to do by a set of narrow measures. I hope we can at least agree on that.
The ebola thing was also not meant to make light of people dying from ebola, but rather the humour of posting on a message board about our symptoms in search of a diagnosis. I don't have the slightest problem with people doing that because I love answering, but to me it's kind of funny sometimes, so telling someone to call their doctor and ask if it's Ebola is just a roundabout way of communicating that it could literally be anything, but without saying that in a mean "you obviously don't understand your own body" kind of way. If that personally offends anyone, I'm sorry, that was NOT my intention. I sincerely hope Ebola does not wipe out the human population or any more individuals sadly affected by it.
I already said that I think you should trust the doctor and the ultrasound, but I wanted to add that my EDD is based on solely on ultrasound as well.cI didn't have an LMP date because my period had not returned after having my son due to breastfeeding. I also don't know the exact date of conception. I trust that the ultrasound is somewhat accurate and am not worried about it at all.
Same with me. I delivered June 2013, had a small period in Aug, and again in Jan. I got pregnant in April and found out after I was already over 2 months. Only way for them to know my due date was an ultrasound.
I've had 3 ultrasound since, and each one coincides with my due date of Jan 26.
ok, well none of that is anything I haven't heard from you before, except for the labor buddies issue. Yes, I was joking about that, because we both thought that the concept of labor buddies was silly and given our opposite perspectives on birth experience I thought the idea of us updating each other was funny. If you were personally offended by that, I genuinely apologize because I did not want to actually make you feel bad. I was trying to make light of the gap between us which was my weird way of trying to lessen what I perceived as hostility between us.
I have never tried to say that I think unassisted birth is the "safest" option. As you know, we all chose things for ourselves that involve weighing out various risks/benefits which are intensely personal and include things like personal comfort level on a physical/emotional level, and that isn't the same between two people even in two similar situations! Statistical analysis will not account for these things which is why ultimately I champion women's right to sovereignty over their own bodies, even when it goes against what your doctor or a study is telling you is the 'safest' thing to do by a set of narrow measures. I hope we can at least agree on that.
The ebola thing was also not meant to make light of people dying from ebola, but rather the humour of posting on a message board about our symptoms in search of a diagnosis. I don't have the slightest problem with people doing that because I love answering, but to me it's kind of funny sometimes, so telling someone to call their doctor and ask if it's Ebola is just a roundabout way of communicating that it could literally be anything, but without saying that in a mean "you obviously don't understand your own body" kind of way. If that personally offends anyone, I'm sorry, that was NOT my intention. I sincerely hope Ebola does not wipe out the human population or any more individuals sadly affected by it.
I'm pretty certain I have not parroted anything you've said regarding the safety of birth so I'm not sure what you mean by it's not anything you haven't heard from me, but whatevs, it doesn't matter. Yes, we can agree on a woman's right to autonomy in birth. I will fight for your right to birth any way you please, regardless of the safety or danger of those decisions. A fetus does not have rights, and while it's inside your body, what you say is what goes. But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to have personal respect for a mother who makes choices that could be really detrimental to her baby.
Regarding the labor buddies joke, you're not joking about us being labor buddies because the concept of a labor buddy in general is funny, because it's not *that* hilarious. You're singling me out in an attempt to bait me into a reaction, under the guise of a joke. The Ebola joke isn't super offensive, it's the way you beat a joke to death. You can be very funny sometimes, but it seems like you don't know when to stop. The first time I saw the Ebola joke I laughed. The 20th time, not so much. But I'm only trying to explain my feelings. Aside from the baiting (which would be nice if you stopped, but I'm not going to walk around all butt hurt over it) don't change your sense of humor just because I find it annoying. You do you.
Well technically the labor buddies thing was started by @ExcitedMama2. She suggested it on that thread you posted with my name as the title where you were flaming me for rousing everyone with my bisexuality and polyamoury. I thought her suggestion was funny, and given the circumstances (you had just started a thread to accuse me of being a crazy liar basically,) I wasn't super worried about you feeling offended if I ran with it.
This thread should be titled "where it all went wrong between NatureLovers and Stargirlb
Well technically the labor buddies thing was started by @ExcitedMama2. She suggested it on that thread you posted with my name as the title where you were flaming me for rousing everyone with my bisexuality and polyamoury. I thought her suggestion was funny, and given the circumstances (you had just started a thread to accuse me of being a crazy liar basically,) I wasn't super worried about you feeling offended if I ran with it.
So that's my point. Your intention was to offend/annoy me, which is a direct contradiction to your initial assertion that you were trying to diffuse the tension by making a joke. If you're trying to make friends that's not exactly the way to go about it. I really don't care, I only explained because you specifically asked, otherwise I never would have said anything about it.
My intention was not to offend you, but I was not *concerned* with that possibility previously because of the context of how the situation came up. At this point, I can understand why you are offended and I have no ill will to you at all so I'd rather just let it lie (and genuinely apologize because I don't know the extent of what you are going through right now,) rather than make it worse by continuing to joke about it.
My intention was not to offend you, but I was not *concerned* with that possibility previously because of the context of how the situation came up. At this point, I can understand why you are offended and I have no ill will to you at all so I'd rather just let it lie (and genuinely apologize because I don't know the extent of what you are going through right now,) rather than make it worse by continuing to joke about it.
I think you and I just come from completely different places, and we will never truly understand each other. I've genuinely spent time wondering and trying hard to understand your viewpoints, especially regarding your decision to UC with your first. While I get not liking hospitals, I can't make the leap to UC. Yes, the chances of something bad happening are low, but not zero. And no matter how close you are to a hospital, it will never be close enough if your baby is in real trouble. Currently having a hellish pregnancy, it motivates me even more to do whatever is safest for my baby during delivery. I don't want to have suffered what I've suffered, only to have my previously healthy baby end up with a brain injury because I sought a birth experience based on my comfort vs her safety. I'm not saying that to take a jab at you, I'm just explaining why I don't get you.
My intention was not to offend you, but I was not *concerned* with that possibility previously because of the context of how the situation came up. At this point, I can understand why you are offended and I have no ill will to you at all so I'd rather just let it lie (and genuinely apologize because I don't know the extent of what you are going through right now,) rather than make it worse by continuing to joke about it.
I think you and I just come from completely different places, and we will never truly understand each other. I've genuinely spent time wondering and trying hard to understand your viewpoints, especially regarding your decision to UC with your first. While I get not liking hospitals, I can't make the leap to UC. Yes, the chances of something bad happening are low, but not zero. And no matter how close you are to a hospital, it will never be close enough if your baby is in real trouble. Currently having a hellish pregnancy, it motivates me even more to do whatever is safest for my baby during delivery. I don't want to have suffered what I've suffered, only to have my previously healthy baby end up with a brain injury because I sought a birth experience based on my comfort vs her safety. I'm not saying that to take a jab at you, I'm just explaining why I don't get you.
I think your own comfort and child's safety cannot be completely teased apart because there IS interplay between the two in many circumstances. Giving birth in an uncomfortable environment (which will differ for me than for you,) can often make for a more "difficult" delivery. You are going to feel stressed and anxious if forced to deliver in a manner against your choosing, the stress will hinder your body's ability to progress and even recover. This is true of all mammals. If you are comfortable with your birth choice, your care provider, and location, that's really the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Most people would not want to do a UC, but I will happily share info and offer words of encouragement to those who do, because I understand the desire for it having done it myself. Similarly, I might not personally understand the desire for an elective c-section, so my words of encouragement aren't from personal experience, just that I totally respect a woman's right to make her own decisions and assess what is best for her based on her unique circumstances and considerations.
My intention was not to offend you, but I was not *concerned* with that possibility previously because of the context of how the situation came up. At this point, I can understand why you are offended and I have no ill will to you at all so I'd rather just let it lie (and genuinely apologize because I don't know the extent of what you are going through right now,) rather than make it worse by continuing to joke about it.
I think you and I just come from completely different places, and we will never truly understand each other. I've genuinely spent time wondering and trying hard to understand your viewpoints, especially regarding your decision to UC with your first. While I get not liking hospitals, I can't make the leap to UC. Yes, the chances of something bad happening are low, but not zero. And no matter how close you are to a hospital, it will never be close enough if your baby is in real trouble. Currently having a hellish pregnancy, it motivates me even more to do whatever is safest for my baby during delivery. I don't want to have suffered what I've suffered, only to have my previously healthy baby end up with a brain injury because I sought a birth experience based on my comfort vs her safety. I'm not saying that to take a jab at you, I'm just explaining why I don't get you.
I think your own comfort and child's safety cannot be completely teased apart because there IS interplay between the two in many circumstances. Giving birth in an uncomfortable environment (which will differ for me than for you,) can often make for a more "difficult" delivery. You are going to feel stressed and anxious if forced to deliver in a manner against your choosing, the stress will hinder your body's ability to progress and even recover. This is true of all mammals. If you are comfortable with your birth choice, your care provider, and location, that's really the only thing that matters at the end of the day. Most people would not want to do a UC, but I will happily share info and offer words of encouragement to those who do, because I understand the desire for it having done it myself. Similarly, I might not personally understand the desire for an elective c-section, so my words of encouragement aren't from personal experience, just that I totally respect a woman's right to make her own decisions and assess what is best for her based on her unique circumstances and considerations.
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I am not looking forward to the c-section, as I'm concerned the recovery is going to suck ass. I'll probably be a total nervous wreck going in, and I doubt I'll be calm and comfortable. I'll probably need the anesthesiologist to give me a dose of happy medicine to calm me the heck down. But with the risk of placental abruption, I couldn't forgive myself if that happened and she suffered as a result. Like "hey, sorry you have cerebral palsy from oxygen deprivation, but I was more comfortable with the idea of a vaginal birth, and I didn't want to deal with the recovery of a c-section. I know you're going to pay the price for that decision for the rest of your life, but we're cool right?" She'd have every right to hate me for putting my comfort above her safety.
Even without the risks of a PA, vaginal birth has its risks too, which I think get swept under the rug way too much. My MIL had to have two surgeries for bladder prolapse after having one 7lb kid. My Mom and sisters both are leaking urine indefinitely after having two kids. Anytime they sneezed, coughed, laughed, jogged, etc, they lost bladder control so they had to wear pads every single day. While I like the idea of an "easier" recovery (they all had bad tears or episiotomies), I don't want to be 33 years old and deal with the humiliation of bladder incontinence this young (I know it happens to nearly all women in later years).
I don't like the insinuation that the woman is to blame for a tragic outcome. If you choose to give birth, no matter how you choose to do it, you are choosing life. Being dealt death is tragic, but it is not caused by the choice the woman made.
I am able to accept that in choosing to bring life into this world, and in being luckily enough to be able to do so, there is the potential that I might not succeed. That heavy reality exists no matter how/where/when/why I choose to deliver. Does a woman who makes a choice with higher associated risk (be it elective c or uc, or unsuccessful late term abortion resulting in live birth) deserve shame and blame on top of the heavy load she is already carrying? Absolutely not. If a woman miscarries after not taking every single possible precaution to safeguard her pregnancy, does she also deserve shame and blame for her tragic loss which she did not choose? Absolutely not.
There is a fine line between being able to put emotions aside and look at the science/numbers and considerations involved in evidence-based medicine, and plain ol women-blaming, women-criminalizing, misogyny. I am not interested in toeing that line. I'm happy to defend my birth choices any day of the week, from the perspective of a decent understanding of my own biology and psychology, but when it comes to decisions others make that I can't understand, I have no interest in laying the groundwork for guilt and blame. I can accept full responsibility for my own choices over my body which is more than just a vessel for someone else's life.
You've pulled the 'dead baby' card directly on me enough times now that I think you either don't realize what a shitty thing that is to say to someone planning to give birth to a hopefully healthy and living child-- Or that you do intend it to be that bad and it really is a reflection/projection of how you feel inside. For your sake I hope it's the former, but that does still make me sad for all the women who have to deal with the worst tragedy while simultaneously being bombarded with the blame for it because they did not just turn their bodies over to what would be best for their baby according to some 'consensus' based on sets of information about statistical outcomes. A world like this means that even the women who DO do everything 'right' according to popular medical consensus, and face tragedy, might still face the same blame factory and internal guilt mechanisms that she "could have done ____" or that she shouldn't have "_____"
The magnitude of such tragedy means that debating the small statistical differences in outcomes in the greater context of the grieving woman's CHOICE is horribly offside and harmful to the rights and freedoms of all women.
Information should empower us to greater freedom of choice, not enslave us to fear, guilt, blame, and what ifs.
And of course, I can't close without bringing up the Canadian homebirth study that shows homebirth with a midwife is just as safe as hospital birth with a midwife, and that the third 'safest' option was hospital birth with a doctor. What this says to me is that when women's choices are met with legitimacy, and they are provided greater access to a full range of care in alternative manners, overall outcomes are better. Midwifery in bc is a regulated, sought after, and respected profession with hospital privileges. Rather than disparage women who choose homebirth in the US under different circumstances, we should be advocating for greater inclusion and validation of their choices into the standard models of care. I've mentioned before that many of the women I met in my UC birth groups felt alienated by their options, and that meant they had to, in many cases, hide their choices altogether or be treated like children to be punished and refused care if they don't comply. Or worse-- face criminalization.
I don't post on here often, but I feel like in this instance I should put in my two cents. You too bickering has taken the conversation a little a stray from the original post. Like many people have said, and being a medical professional my self, the best plan would be to discuss all of this with your ob. They are trained to know more than we do when it comes to dating. If they are worried about a dead baby after hearing the whole story they will let her know. If they are not than things will stay as they are. Put more faith in your medical doctor, that is why you chose them to deliver your baby..
I don't post on here often, but I feel like in this instance I should put in my two cents. You too bickering has taken the conversation a little a stray from the original post. Like many people have said, and being a medical professional my self, the best plan would be to discuss all of this with your ob. They are trained to know more than we do when it comes to dating. If they are worried about a dead baby after hearing the whole story they will let her know. If they are not than things will stay as they are. Put more faith in your medical doctor, that is why you chose them to deliver your baby..
Dammit, Mom showed up to tell us how to behave ourselves.
Lol I stopped reading comments a while back because some people started fighting... But I just hopped back on and read some useful things. Now my period being due may 6th, is it possible I got pregnant in may and still managed to miss my may 6th period? That's seems a little early
I'm just scared I'm actually due Jan 13th... But if I go into then I'm scared the doctors will try to stop it because I'm "early" in their eyes... And someone else mentioned the baby could die if I past 2 weeks which would be the doctors due date Jan 30th but I guess the doctors would think it was normal for mw to be late since its my first pregnancy, but they wouldn't know I'm a few weeks late not days...
Just have a conversation with your doc and let them know your worries. It is possible to lose the baby if you go too long but it isn't something that happens often enough to cause yourself stress. They will do tests if you go into labor early before they stop it to determine if the baby is ready yet
I already said that I think you should trust the doctor and the ultrasound, but I wanted to add that my EDD is based on solely on ultrasound as well.cI didn't have an LMP date because my period had not returned after having my son due to breastfeeding. I also don't know the exact date of conception. I trust that the ultrasound is somewhat accurate and am not worried about it at all.
I agree. My EDD based on my LMP is Jan 21st. Based off of a dating ultrasound it's Jan 27th. I wasn't tracking anything except my period start dates so I'm using the day the doctor gave me and not my own. I don't really see what the big deal is.
I get that there could be issues with going into labor "early" but as long as your OB understands the possible discrepancy they will be able to make educated decisions about your and baby's care.
At the risk of sounding like a total ass, is the reason you are so concerned about the exact date because you are not 100% sure of paternity? Sorry if that comes off as a jerk thing to say, it just wouldn't be the first time that's popped up on these boards.
With my first I didn't know when I O'd or even when m LMP was. We did a dating ultrasound and it was accurate-- or at least baby was delivered healthy.
If you are this concerned about Going early or late,talk to your doctor about it. You'll get a lot if support but we cant really help with the EDD because nobody knows when you O'd unless you were temping.
PS-- I only skimmed the Naturelover/Stargirl text, but @NatureLovers
My friend had a repeat csection last month and she assured me that she felt as fit leaving the hospital as she did 2 weeks after her emergency csection. I hope it's as easy for you
I told her to go with the later ultrasound date that her doctor gave her rather than her own estimation of conception since her and bf "have sex every weekend". The doctor is aware she is uncertain of her conception date, and they will exercise caution when it comes to recommending inductions and/or 'letting' her go past that since the dates are uncertain. They would probably do another late ultrasound to make sure baby is still fine near the end if there was any question or if growth seemed restricted.
In both my pregnancies, I only had second tri ultrasounds, but my care providers in both cases preferred the ultrasound date over my personal 'guestimation.' This time around is the first time I've known for certain the exact date of conception.
This. But I would still probably bring up the concerns to your doctor and hopefully he or she can offer some reassurance.
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I'm just scared I'm actually due Jan 13th... But if I go into then I'm scared the doctors will try to stop it because I'm "early" in their eyes... And someone else mentioned the baby could die if I past 2 weeks which would be the doctors due date Jan 30th but I guess the doctors would think it was normal for mw to be late since its my first pregnancy, but they wouldn't know I'm a few weeks late not days...
If you honestly don't trust your ultrasound this much ask for another. You should of had two-three at this point anyways if you had an NT scan. I would assume because of your circumstances they would of be more likely to allow it. I was temping and had VERY regular periods and the month I got pregnant I ovulated 4 days later. It happens its very normal and there are a lot of reasons why it could happen. Also, babies measure ahead and behind for a number of reasons so the ultrasound is likely accurate.
FWIW, I knew the date I conceived and my ultrasound dates pushed my EDD 5 days earlier. That's the date I'm going with. I'm not sure you can change your EDD anyway, so make sure your doctor is aware of your concerns.
I'm just scared I'm actually due Jan 13th... But if I go into then I'm scared the doctors will try to stop it because I'm "early" in their eyes... And someone else mentioned the baby could die if I past 2 weeks which would be the doctors due date Jan 30th but I guess the doctors would think it was normal for mw to be late since its my first pregnancy, but they wouldn't know I'm a few weeks late not days...
A friend of a friend of mine kept having her due date changed because her baby was growing small the whole time. She's never smoked or anything and is going to deliver any day now! I would say to talk to your doctor (I wouldn't even bring it up until you're in your third trimester) about doing a late ultrasound to check on the placenta and amniotic fluid. THAT is what will tell you if the baby is going to be in danger. Baby can come 3 weeks late, but if the placenta and amniotic fluid are healthy the baby will be fine. And as far as going "early" and not really being early and having labor stopped you really need to voice this concern to your doctor and then bring it up again closer to delivery. Make sure they know it is a real and valid concern of yours. And talk to them seriously about inducing at 39-40 weeks. If they know how seriously you are taking this they will hopefully respect that.
Also, I think that the feelings of baby movement can be confused, especially when it is your first child and you are super sensitive to something new going on inside of you. So while you may be correct in the early date you may be misinterpreting what you were feeling. I know earlier in my pregnancy what I thought was kicks was very different when I was further along and knew what kicking felt like. Like many of the PP's have said, it is good you are asking advice but the best thing you can do is listen to your doctor, raise these concerns with them and they will address them much better than we can. Good luck!
My due date was moved 9 days earlier than the one based on my period date.
I track ovulation and the new date is impossible... but they have to change it based on the ultrasound.
I talked to the midwife about it, they made a note on my file about when I ovulated and this will only be an issue if I go well past the modified due date.
Talk to your doctor, and make sure they know about the period dates and you can get closer monitoring closer to your due date.
I was also "regular" before I got pregnant. My LMP was April 12th. I was expecting my period on May 10th and did not get it. I took a test on the 11th and it was negative. I took another on the 14th and it was positive. I should have a due date of Jan 17th but based on my measurements at my first ultrasound May 28th they said I was measuring 5 days behind. I was scheduled for another ultrasound on June 10th and was told there was a heartbeat, but I was another 4 days behind. My doctor has recorded my due date as 1/26. This is what I go by. I have never smoked, I stopped drinking caffine over a year ago, I have been taking prenatal vitamins since March in preparation for conception. And I still have a due date 9 days off from what it "should" be.
That being said, if I were you I would start taking vitamins, stop smoking and take care of your self. Eat properly and get enough water and protein throughout the day. Please talk to your doctor about your concerns. They will know better than us.
Also, for those saying i may have ovulated late, according to doctora calculations, i would have ovulated may 5th, but my period was due may 6th and i didnt get it... So i doubt i ovulated late. Or at least that late.
If your period started April 8th, you did not ovulate May 5th. You probably ovulated around April 14th, give or take a few days. Please get a book called Taking Charge of Your Fertility and read it cover to cover. You have absolutely no idea how your body works.
Actually, she could have. This happened to me this time. Exact dates actually. Had a period April 8th. I did ovulate late, around May 5th. I KNOW because there was only one possible time my husband and I could have conceived that cycle and it was then. My dates support it. Late ovulation can and does happen.
Re: Confused on due date!!! please help!
I've had 3 ultrasound since, and each one coincides with my due date of Jan 26.
Regarding the labor buddies joke, you're not joking about us being labor buddies because the concept of a labor buddy in general is funny, because it's not *that* hilarious. You're singling me out in an attempt to bait me into a reaction, under the guise of a joke. The Ebola joke isn't super offensive, it's the way you beat a joke to death. You can be very funny sometimes, but it seems like you don't know when to stop. The first time I saw the Ebola joke I laughed. The 20th time, not so much. But I'm only trying to explain my feelings. Aside from the baiting (which would be nice if you stopped, but I'm not going to walk around all butt hurt over it) don't change your sense of humor just
because I find it annoying. You do you.
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I am not looking forward to the c-section, as I'm concerned the recovery is going to suck ass. I'll probably be a total nervous wreck going in, and I doubt I'll be calm and comfortable. I'll probably need the anesthesiologist to give me a dose of happy medicine to calm me the heck down. But with the risk of placental abruption, I couldn't forgive myself if that happened and she suffered as a result. Like "hey, sorry you have cerebral palsy from oxygen deprivation, but I was more comfortable with the idea of a vaginal birth, and I didn't want to deal with the recovery of a c-section. I know you're going to pay the price for that decision for the rest of your life, but we're cool right?" She'd have every right to hate me for putting my comfort above her safety.
Even without the risks of a PA, vaginal birth has its risks too, which I think get swept under the rug way too much. My MIL had to have two surgeries for bladder prolapse after having one 7lb kid. My Mom and sisters both are leaking urine indefinitely after having two kids. Anytime they sneezed, coughed, laughed, jogged, etc, they lost bladder control so they had to wear pads every single day. While I like the idea of an "easier" recovery (they all had bad tears or episiotomies), I don't want to be 33 years old and deal with the humiliation of bladder incontinence this young (I know it happens to nearly all women in later years).
I am able to accept that in choosing to bring life into this world, and in being luckily enough to be able to do so, there is the potential that I might not succeed. That heavy reality exists no matter how/where/when/why I choose to deliver. Does a woman who makes a choice with higher associated risk (be it elective c or uc, or unsuccessful late term abortion resulting in live birth) deserve shame and blame on top of the heavy load she is already carrying? Absolutely not. If a woman miscarries after not taking every single possible precaution to safeguard her pregnancy, does she also deserve shame and blame for her tragic loss which she did not choose? Absolutely not.
There is a fine line between being able to put emotions aside and look at the science/numbers and considerations involved in evidence-based medicine, and plain ol women-blaming, women-criminalizing, misogyny. I am not interested in toeing that line. I'm happy to defend my birth choices any day of the week, from the perspective of a decent understanding of my own biology and psychology, but when it comes to decisions others make that I can't understand, I have no interest in laying the groundwork for guilt and blame. I can accept full responsibility for my own choices over my body which is more than just a vessel for someone else's life.
You've pulled the 'dead baby' card directly on me enough times now that I think you either don't realize what a shitty thing that is to say to someone planning to give birth to a hopefully healthy and living child-- Or that you do intend it to be that bad and it really is a reflection/projection of how you feel inside. For your sake I hope it's the former, but that does still make me sad for all the women who have to deal with the worst tragedy while simultaneously being bombarded with the blame for it because they did not just turn their bodies over to what would be best for their baby according to some 'consensus' based on sets of information about statistical outcomes. A world like this means that even the women who DO do everything 'right' according to popular medical consensus, and face tragedy, might still face the same blame factory and internal guilt mechanisms that she "could have done ____" or that she shouldn't have "_____"
The magnitude of such tragedy means that debating the small statistical differences in outcomes in the greater context of the grieving woman's CHOICE is horribly offside and harmful to the rights and freedoms of all women.
Information should empower us to greater freedom of choice, not enslave us to fear, guilt, blame, and what ifs.
And of course, I can't close without bringing up the Canadian homebirth study that shows homebirth with a midwife is just as safe as hospital birth with a midwife, and that the third 'safest' option was hospital birth with a doctor. What this says to me is that when women's choices are met with legitimacy, and they are provided greater access to a full range of care in alternative manners, overall outcomes are better. Midwifery in bc is a regulated, sought after, and respected profession with hospital privileges. Rather than disparage women who choose homebirth in the US under different circumstances, we should be advocating for greater inclusion and validation of their choices into the standard models of care. I've mentioned before that many of the women I met in my UC birth groups felt alienated by their options, and that meant they had to, in many cases, hide their choices altogether or be treated like children to be punished and refused care if they don't comply. Or worse-- face criminalization.
Sorry if this has been addressed already but it annoyed me enough to stop reading further comments and respond.
I get that there could be issues with going into labor "early" but as long as your OB understands the possible discrepancy they will be able to make educated decisions about your and baby's care.
At the risk of sounding like a total ass, is the reason you are so concerned about the exact date because you are not 100% sure of paternity? Sorry if that comes off as a jerk thing to say, it just wouldn't be the first time that's popped up on these boards.
If you are this concerned about
Going early or late,talk to your doctor about it. You'll get a lot if support but we cant really help with the EDD because nobody knows when you O'd unless you were temping.
PS-- I only skimmed the Naturelover/Stargirl text, but @NatureLovers
My friend had a repeat csection last month and she assured me that she felt as fit leaving the hospital as she did 2 weeks after her emergency csection. I hope it's as easy for you
Dec '12 & Jan '15
Ugh - my friend has one coming up. Can't wait to rock out with my cock out.
I was also "regular" before I got pregnant. My LMP was April 12th. I was expecting my period on May 10th and did not get it. I took a test on the 11th and it was negative. I took another on the 14th and it was positive. I should have a due date of Jan 17th but based on my measurements at my first ultrasound May 28th they said I was measuring 5 days behind. I was scheduled for another ultrasound on June 10th and was told there was a heartbeat, but I was another 4 days behind. My doctor has recorded my due date as 1/26. This is what I go by. I have never smoked, I stopped drinking caffine over a year ago, I have been taking prenatal vitamins since March in preparation for conception. And I still have a due date 9 days off from what it "should" be.
That being said, if I were you I would start taking vitamins, stop smoking and take care of your self. Eat properly and get enough water and protein throughout the day. Please talk to your doctor about your concerns. They will know better than us.