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goillini823 · September 2014

His 2 year old son was killed by a child abuser and he goes and abuses another child?!?
https://abc7chicago.com/sports/attorney-nfl-star-adrian-peterson-indicted-in-texas-/306599/

notkateanymore · September 2014

He "used a switch" on his son according to the story I just read. As in spanked his son with a small branch which is apparently common in the South.

notkateanymore · September 2014

Yes, the skin was broken.

I find it interesting that the DA had decided not to press charges than this week changed his mind. I think it had something to do with the Rice case. CYA law.

rosesandpetals · September 2014

Ugh, I shouldn't have opened this thread. I'm coming back from a bad situation at school this week so my emotions about this kind of thing are running high.

This guy is an asshole and this is disgusting behavior.

notkateanymore · September 2014

amy052006 said:

Nope, nope, nope. The first fucking blow to your kid that draws blood -- even if you are some godforsaken asshole who believes in this shit -- is your clue to fucking stop. He showed zero remorse with police. He admitted the kid had wounds on his scrotum. He said it was how he was raised. Ok fine he was also abused -- so step the fuck away from football, take your punishment, and ducking educate yourself. This kid is four. Four.

Four. What can a four year old do that he thinks makes this OK?

CubanPinky · September 2014

yea drawing blood vs giving your child a spanking is two totally different things. my two kids get spanks/slaps if they mess up big time (my 9 yr old and 5 yr old). drawing on walls, breaking toys on purpose, yelling or fighting or just acting nuts..period...you get a back hand. but id never hit my children to the point where there is blood drawn. might have been a mistake..but i draw the line with straight up abuse

Andrewsgal · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

yea drawing blood vs giving your child a spanking is two totally different things. my two kids get spanks/slaps if they mess up big time (my 9 yr old and 5 yr old). drawing on walls, breaking toys on purpose, yelling or fighting or just acting nuts..period...you get a back hand. but id never hit my children to the point where there is blood drawn. might have been a mistake..but i draw the line with straight up abuse

holy shit you seriously back hand your kids? WTF. Go Away!

kcisthebombdotcom · September 2014

After reading that/seeing the pictures my four year old is sleeping snuggled next to me. I can't imagine ever hurting him intentionally.

kcisthebombdotcom · September 2014

Andrewsgal said:

CubanPinky said:

yea drawing blood vs giving your child a spanking is two totally different things. my two kids get spanks/slaps if they mess up big time (my 9 yr old and 5 yr old). drawing on walls, breaking toys on purpose, yelling or fighting or just acting nuts..period...you get a back hand. but id never hit my children to the point where there is blood drawn. might have been a mistake..but i draw the line with straight up abuse

holy shit you seriously back hand your kids? WTF. Go Away!

Seriously. That's only marginally better than hitting them with a stick--hate to break it to you.

rosesandpetals · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

yea drawing blood vs giving your child a spanking is two totally different things. my two kids get spanks/slaps if they mess up big time (my 9 yr old and 5 yr old). drawing on walls, breaking toys on purpose, yelling or fighting or just acting nuts..period...you get a back hand. but id never hit my children to the point where there is blood drawn. might have been a mistake..but i draw the line with straight up abuse

And this is where the thread derails.

Don't fucking hit your kids. It is not okay to hurt someone who is defenseless, for any reason, ever. Why is this confusing for so many people?

penguingrrl · September 2014

OMG, so disturbing. Being abused doesn't give you the right to continue the cycle of abuse. That poor sweet baby.

penguingrrl · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

yea drawing blood vs giving your child a spanking is two totally different things. my two kids get spanks/slaps if they mess up big time (my 9 yr old and 5 yr old). drawing on walls, breaking toys on purpose, yelling or fighting or just acting nuts..period...you get a back hand. but id never hit my children to the point where there is blood drawn. might have been a mistake..but i draw the line with straight up abuse

I would consider backhanding a child to be abuse, so no, you don't draw the line at straight up abuse. You don't understand where the line is.

goillini823 · September 2014

Yea I read more details now. I'm more disgusted than when the story first broke.

notkateanymore · September 2014

Yeah it would be more helpful for them to give us all the details dammit. Now I feel crazy, I read the skin was broken and I was thinking scratch, not THAT.

vettymama · September 2014

Damn. I was a huge AP fan and seriously thought he was a great role model.

fintin · September 2014

amy052006 said:
I mean, didn't some dude beat his secret kid to death a few years ago?

When I first heard he was facing child abuse charges (no more detail than that) that was my first thought. He has already lost a child and is now beating this one. This makes me so sad for this little boy. I'm glad his mother reported this and didn't have the same mentality as he does.

trizzie · September 2014

They better suspend him indefinitely just like Ray Rice. I am sickened and appalled by this.

MesmrEwe · September 2014

The whole situation is lighting up the news here in MN. It's within the realm of the law to spank to the number equal to years of age and not leave a mark, that's the line in the sand whether you're pro-spanking or not based on law. That line was crossed, he'll likely pay some hefty fines, he and Rice will appeal, give it two years of appeals, and similar to Vick because NFL fans have "short" memories.. Yes, their careers will be forever marred by it, as they should be!! Not that Ziggy really cares about AP, he's got all of us on the hook for a billion+ dollar stadium...

eaglesfan700 · September 2014

amy052006 said:

I am going to need all people to stop saying "similar" to Vick, because dogs aren't people There are degrees of awful, and humans trump animals.

This is seriously driving me nuts

CubanPinky · September 2014

lol you all are out of control blowing something up to be something that is not. plz have several seats ladies...especially with the judging n name calling. every parent has their own method in raising/disciplining a child. If you listed your methods in punishment honestly unless it was something extreme i wouldn't even go there with you all..calling you disgusting or anything stupid like you all just did. Its childish and honestly i have no right to call your methods "horrible" or insinuate that you aren't good moms/have good parenting skills or any of the above. so seriously relax ppl..... and just to clarify "back-handing" isn't what you think. my kids get spankings yes...that's what me and their fathers have chosen as well as nonphysical methods. does it borderline child abuse...HECK NO! But hey, everyone has their opinions..i totally accept them..but sometimes ladies you have to put on your big girl panties and give your opinion in a more adult manner. Thanks for the laughs tho. Have a great day!

Andrewsgal · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

lol you all are out of control blowing something up to be something that is not. plz have several seats ladies...especially with the judging n name calling. every parent has their own method in raising/disciplining a child. If you listed your methods in punishment honestly unless it was something extreme i wouldn't even go there with you all..calling you disgusting or anything stupid like you all just did. Its childish and honestly i have no right to call your methods "horrible" or insinuate that you aren't good moms/have good parenting skills or any of the above. so seriously relax ppl..... and just to clarify "back-handing" isn't what you think. my kids get spankings yes...that's what me and their fathers have chosen as well as nonphysical methods. does it borderline child abuse...HECK NO! But hey, everyone has their opinions..i totally accept them..but sometimes ladies you have to put on your big girl panties and give your opinion in a more adult manner. Thanks for the laughs tho. Have a great day!

Nope hitting kids is wrong. I can only assume you are uneducated and don't have any other resources. Back handing a kid is abuse of course you won't see it that way you are the abuser. Kids who are spanked have lower IQs and are more aggressive it is a terrible form of discipline.

Court0026 · September 2014

Allergic living magazine just featured AP recently as a role model to kids with food allergies because he has a food allergy. My son thought he was so cool. Ugh! AP sucks. This is so sad.

Court0026 · September 2014

JJ+SA said:
Greg Hardy? I'm way more riled up about him.
https://time.com/3329416/greg-hardy-nfl-domestic-violence/

Woah!

notkateanymore · September 2014

Me and their fathers...how many baby daddies do you have @cubanpinky

notkateanymore · September 2014

amy052006 said:

I am going to need all people to stop saying "similar" to Vick, because dogs aren't people There are degrees of awful, and humans trump animals.

Oh so much this.

CubanPinky · September 2014

Andrewsgal said:

CubanPinky said:

lol you all are out of control blowing something up to be something that is not. plz have several seats ladies...especially with the judging n name calling. every parent has their own method in raising/disciplining a child. If you listed your methods in punishment honestly unless it was something extreme i wouldn't even go there with you all..calling you disgusting or anything stupid like you all just did. Its childish and honestly i have no right to call your methods "horrible" or insinuate that you aren't good moms/have good parenting skills or any of the above. so seriously relax ppl..... and just to clarify "back-handing" isn't what you think. my kids get spankings yes...that's what me and their fathers have chosen as well as nonphysical methods. does it borderline child abuse...HECK NO! But hey, everyone has their opinions..i totally accept them..but sometimes ladies you have to put on your big girl panties and give your opinion in a more adult manner. Thanks for the laughs tho. Have a great day!

Nope hitting kids is wrong. I can only assume you are uneducated and don't have any other resources. Back handing a kid is abuse of course you won't see it that way you are the abuser. Kids who are spanked have lower IQs and are more aggressive it is a terrible form of discipline.

@andrewsgal if that's how you feel sweetie..by all means continue to feel that way. my daughter is extremely well educated...honor roll student and advance class placement...and my son has been skipped to 1st grad already. i dont back hand my kids in the face or anything that would look as child abuse..but like i said to each its own. and my kids are faaaaaarrr from aggressors either. and just like i mentioned before...the name calling/assumptions... assuming i am uneducated just gives me even more of a reason to think differently about your own educational background. but sorry i dont/wouldn't stoop to your level and demean you like that sweetie. have a great weekend

CubanPinky · September 2014

notkateanymore said:

Me and their fathers...how many baby daddies do you have @cubanpinky

@notkateanymore i have two and i am currently engaged. both my kids fathers and my fiance are very much involved in the kids lives

Andrewsgal · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

notkateanymore said:

Me and their fathers...how many baby daddies do you have @cubanpinky

@notkateanymore i have two and i am currently engaged. both my kids fathers and my fiance are very much involved in the kids lives

So that would be three with three kids. And I am jumping to conclusions? It is documented by research that those with lower education levels and lower SES are often ones who think it's okay to hit their kids. Your use of the term sweetie and baby daddy pretty much confirm that.

penguingrrl · September 2014

CubanPinky said:

lol you all are out of control blowing something up to be something that is not. plz have several seats ladies...especially with the judging n name calling. every parent has their own method in raising/disciplining a child. If you listed your methods in punishment honestly unless it was something extreme i wouldn't even go there with you all..calling you disgusting or anything stupid like you all just did. Its childish and honestly i have no right to call your methods "horrible" or insinuate that you aren't good moms/have good parenting skills or any of the above. so seriously relax ppl..... and just to clarify "back-handing" isn't what you think. my kids get spankings yes...that's what me and their fathers have chosen as well as nonphysical methods. does it borderline child abuse...HECK NO! But hey, everyone has their opinions..i totally accept them..but sometimes ladies you have to put on your big girl panties and give your opinion in a more adult manner. Thanks for the laughs tho. Have a great day!

Nope, not blowing anything out of control. I have intelligent, well behaved children and get comments all the time on their behavior. I have never once hit any of the three of them and never will. There is way too much evidence on how harmful hitting is and that all it teaches a child is to hit and humiliate those younger and weaker than themselves.

notkateanymore · September 2014

Andrewsgal said:

CubanPinky said:

notkateanymore said:

Me and their fathers...how many baby daddies do you have @cubanpinky

@notkateanymore i have two and i am currently engaged. both my kids fathers and my fiance are very much involved in the kids lives

So that would be three with three kids. And I am jumping to conclusions? It is documented by research that those with lower education levels and lower SES are often ones who think it's okay to hit their kids. Your use of the term sweetie and baby daddy pretty much confirm that.

To be fair, I said baby daddy.

Three for three...

CubanPinky · September 2014

@penguingurl to be quite honest...anytime that i do spank my children it isnt a first choice. its not a "go-to" method..more so a last resort. i am not sayin nor suggestion...EVERYONE SHOULD SPANK THEIR CHILD. my kids are well behaved too. even after they might have gotten a spanking or two. but i am happy that you have your own methods that work for your children.

@andrewsgal lol if that is what you think hun. no need to even entertain you today

CubanPinky · September 2014

notkateanymore said:

Andrewsgal said:

CubanPinky said:

notkateanymore said:

Me and their fathers...how many baby daddies do you have @cubanpinky

@notkateanymore i have two and i am currently engaged. both my kids fathers and my fiance are very much involved in the kids lives

So that would be three with three kids. And I am jumping to conclusions? It is documented by research that those with lower education levels and lower SES are often ones who think it's okay to hit their kids. Your use of the term sweetie and baby daddy pretty much confirm that.

To be fair, I said baby daddy. Three for three...

@notkateanymore its all good lol they were past relationships that didn't work out. not every ending is a fair tale lol but you live and learn

rosesandpetals · September 2014

Why do people use the term baby daddy when referring to their own kids? I always thought it was meant to be derogatory. I know people who have children with more than 1 man (after divorce or whatever) but the men are "John's father" or "Susie's father", never "my baby daddy". It's so weird to degrade yourself like that. But maybe I'm the only one who thinks about it that way?

Andrewsgal · September 2014

rosesandpetals said:
Why do people use the term baby daddy when referring to their own kids? I always thought it was meant to be derogatory. I know people who have children with more than 1 man (after divorce or whatever) but the men are "John's father" or "Susie's father", never "my baby daddy". It's so weird to degrade yourself like that. But maybe I'm the only one who thinks about it that way?

I might get flamed for this but I think it's more an SES thing.

trizzie · September 2014

This subject fires me up. There is no excuse for what he did to that poor, defenseless kid. None. I don't know how you can look at those pictures and not hurt for that baby.

zbeesma86 · September 2014

Seriously? This just furthers my theory that people need to pass a test to have kids.

trizzie · September 2014

Kimbus22 said:

Oh holy shit. I was holding it together until I got to "It's okay that I hit my kids because I don't hit them in the face." Fuck a duck.

Chick needs to ditch the 4000 badges in her siggy and replace them with one that says "Too lazy to learn how to discipline so I smack my genius kids around."

Right? Because it is totally not child abuse if you do it where no one can see. For heaven's sake.

Andrewsgal · September 2014

trizzie said:

Kimbus22 said:

Oh holy shit. I was holding it together until I got to "It's okay that I hit my kids because I don't hit them in the face." Fuck a duck.

Chick needs to ditch the 4000 badges in her siggy and replace them with one that says "Too lazy to learn how to discipline so I smack my genius kids around."

Right? Because it is totally not child abuse if you do it where no one can see. For heaven's sake.

I know! That essentially fits the profile of an abuser. She can't control the two she has without hitting them so why not find another baby daddy to have more.

PrimRoseMama · September 2014

This whole thread makes me so sad for the kids whose parents feel that hitting is teaching them anything but fear & pain.

goillini823 · September 2014

I need to change the title of this post to NFL douchebags and other idiots that spank genius kids.

HBirdie · September 2014

@CubanPinky: I will say this with as much respect as I can muster.

Spanking/hitting/physical punishment has been studied and is proven to be harmful to children. Think about it- they're young and small and in your care, and you're physically hurting them. Probably while simultaneously teaching them that violence isn't okay and that they should never hit or hurt anyone.
I understand it, I was spanked occasionally as a kid and I'm intelligent and resourceful and a good human. "My parents did it and I turned out fine!", right? Before I had a child and studied the topic, I thought spanking was okay in some circumstances, that I would probably spank my kids. Since then, I have talked to other parents, done some reading, and realized that I don't want to do that. It's not a shameful thing to be ignorant about a topic. But it is shameful if you know better and you don't do better. My parents were wonderful people and I certainly don't think being spanked as a kid left any lasting damage. But I'm going to strive to be the absolute best parent I can be, and that will include finding other ways to guide and teach my children that don't involve physical discipline.

I'm saying this really hoping you'll be reasonable and at least think about it. Maybe you'll decide you're still okay with the way you do discipline. Maybe you'll rethink. I don't know. But just consider taking a look at these, okay?

If you want to talk more about it, please PM me. Or ask some questions on here! I'm sure you could get some great advice on spanking alternatives.

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx

https://www.askdrsears.com/topics/parenting/discipline-behavior/spanking/10-reasons-not-hit-your-child

edited for a typo

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