January 2015 Moms

POLL! Your baby's penis....

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Re: POLL! Your baby's penis....


  • Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.



    Can it be a gold medal? I fancy myself to be pretty special...

    Or should the medal be made out of his foreskin? I can proudly display it on the wall of our house to let everyone know how stupid and uneducated and downright vile I am.

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  • Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
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    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
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    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
  • This is all very entertaining while my son naps. Thanks girls.
  • Why not just go all the way and castrate him at birth? Penises are kinda yucky and then he can't get penis cancer at all! And less AIDS! Win!
  • Roxycc55 said:

    Honestly, I'm strongly considering not circing, for our own reasons. However, the strong and ridiculous opinions on that side from certain people, and how ridiculous other opinions she has are, makes me want to rethink it. %-(

    I'm not actually going to base my decision on disliking someone else, but really, you're not helping your argument any here.

    If my tone or "strong ridiculous opinion" makes you want to cut your baby's penis, you've got bigger problems.
  • I wanted to leave DS in tact.  DH wanted to circumcise.  I told DH I would leave the final decision up to him but he HAD to research it.  He couldn't just say "I'm cut, so our son will be."  I wanted him to know all the facts.  DS came really early and passed away so we never actually got around to a final decision.  This one is a girl and our last, so I'm thankful we don't have to worry about it this time!
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  • Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
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    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
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    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
    Because it is our son, and until he is capable of making decisions for himself, it is a parent's job to make decisions for their child. This includes health-based decisions. Like vaccines.

    Just because you made a different decision doesn't give you or anyone else any authority over my child's genitals.

    I don't see any need to change this particular custom in our case. Like I said, I spoke to plenty of people, both medical professionals and individuals, and this was the decision we came up with. It's not based on aesthetics or convenience, it was a decision and our choice. And nobody else's business.

    I love how you created this poll just to go fishing for people to troll. You clearly don't have anything better to do with your time.
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    Then why are you here discussing this with me?
  • A better use of my time could be discussing donuts and posting pictures of my new stroller. BUT I like to discuss this topic because it's very sad to see so many baby boys injured like this. (And girls in other parts of the world.)
  • Stargirlb said:

    Roxycc55 said:

    Honestly, I'm strongly considering not circing, for our own reasons. However, the strong and ridiculous opinions on that side from certain people, and how ridiculous other opinions she has are, makes me want to rethink it. %-(

    I'm not actually going to base my decision on disliking someone else, but really, you're not helping your argument any here.

    If my tone or "strong ridiculous opinion" makes you want to cut your baby's penis, you've got bigger problems.
    Note the second half of my statement where I said it didn't. It's just annoying and I don't think it sways anyone over to your side.


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  • Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
    ---

    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
    ---
    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
    Because it is our son, and until he is capable of making decisions for himself, it is a parent's job to make decisions for their child. This includes health-based decisions. Like vaccines.

    Just because you made a different decision doesn't give you or anyone else any authority over my child's genitals.

    I don't see any need to change this particular custom in our case. Like I said, I spoke to plenty of people, both medical professionals and individuals, and this was the decision we came up with. It's not based on aesthetics or convenience, it was a decision and our choice. And nobody else's business.

    I love how you created this poll just to go fishing for people to troll. You clearly don't have anything better to do with your time.
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    Then why are you here discussing this with me?
    Because you're being a self righteous judgmental know it all, per usual. And unless someone stands up to a bully and tells them to mind their own damned business, usually they just batter down anyone who disagrees with them.

    I'm truly surprised we haven't gotten a wall of misleading text quoting extremely questionable sources from you yet on what a barbaric practice circumcision is, and so on and so forth.


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    So I'm a bully now, eh?

    You want to cut off a baby's healthy genital tissue and I'm a bully for pointing out that this is just a wee bit fucked up.

    That's some cognitive dissonance.

  • StargirlbStargirlb member
    edited September 2014
    Pretentious! Self righteous judgemental know it all! Bully!

    Because I don't think you have a divine right to surgically alter (or remove,) a baby's HEALTHY genitals. Oy.
  • motherboy said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
    ---

    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
    ---
    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
    Because it is our son, and until he is capable of making decisions for himself, it is a parent's job to make decisions for their child. This includes health-based decisions. Like vaccines.

    Just because you made a different decision doesn't give you or anyone else any authority over my child's genitals.

    I don't see any need to change this particular custom in our case. Like I said, I spoke to plenty of people, both medical professionals and individuals, and this was the decision we came up with. It's not based on aesthetics or convenience, it was a decision and our choice. And nobody else's business.

    I love how you created this poll just to go fishing for people to troll. You clearly don't have anything better to do with your time.
    ---

    Then why are you here discussing this with me?
    Because you're being a self righteous judgmental know it all, per usual. And unless someone stands up to a bully and tells them to mind their own damned business, usually they just batter down anyone who disagrees with them.

    I'm truly surprised we haven't gotten a wall of misleading text quoting extremely questionable sources from you yet on what a barbaric practice circumcision is, and so on and so forth.

    Haha I'm reminded of this great quote by Mark Twain:

    "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
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    Ohhhh I get it, now I'm stupid too! Lol

  • CL8badB said:

    Anyone have a tally going to see how many times she says "HEALTHY BABY GENITALS!"?? =))

    Its to differentiate from a surgery that is medically necessary.
  • StargirlbStargirlb member
    edited September 2014


    Stargirlb said:

    Pretentious! Self righteous judgemental know it all! Bully!

    Because I don't think you have a divine right to surgically alter (or remove,) a baby's HEALTHY genitals. Oy.

    No, because of the way you phrase it and the way you go after people.  You attract more flies with honey, as they say.... and you are always vinegar when it comes to this topic.  You do bully and shame instead of stating facts.... that's what they are referencing.  Any traction you possibly could have in swaying someone's opinion is lost in the sea of judgement you crash upon them in wave after wave.  If you were to tone it down just a bit, I bet more people would listen.

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  • Stargirlb said:

    motherboy said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
    ---

    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
    ---
    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
    Because it is our son, and until he is capable of making decisions for himself, it is a parent's job to make decisions for their child. This includes health-based decisions. Like vaccines.

    Just because you made a different decision doesn't give you or anyone else any authority over my child's genitals.

    I don't see any need to change this particular custom in our case. Like I said, I spoke to plenty of people, both medical professionals and individuals, and this was the decision we came up with. It's not based on aesthetics or convenience, it was a decision and our choice. And nobody else's business.

    I love how you created this poll just to go fishing for people to troll. You clearly don't have anything better to do with your time.
    ---

    Then why are you here discussing this with me?
    Because you're being a self righteous judgmental know it all, per usual. And unless someone stands up to a bully and tells them to mind their own damned business, usually they just batter down anyone who disagrees with them.

    I'm truly surprised we haven't gotten a wall of misleading text quoting extremely questionable sources from you yet on what a barbaric practice circumcision is, and so on and so forth.

    Haha I'm reminded of this great quote by Mark Twain:

    "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
    ---

    Ohhhh I get it, now I'm stupid too! Lol

    Honestly, no, I don't think you're stupid but I think your feelings about this subject have been already stated. Your repeated dredging up of this topic and your arguments about it are getting tiresome.

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  • StargirlbStargirlb member
    edited September 2014
    jconno said:

    What is the point of this poll?

    To see how many people side with my 'stupid'
    motherboy said:

    Stargirlb said:

    motherboy said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Stargirlb said:

    Done zero research and are cutting of some of a baby's genitals! Wow you do deserve a medal.

    But you've done a ton of "research" and aren't vaccinating your kids. So research might be a little overrated at times ;-)
    ---

    That's right, I'm not. And I don't think you are wrong to vaccinate. It's an extremely complex issue.

    Circumcision is cutting off healthy genital tissue. A vaccine is not.
    And my decision whether or not to circumcise my son is my son's business, and my husband and my business. It will not affect anyone else. Whether or not you vaccinate your children could affect all of us.

    Which decision is more worthy of public ridicule? We clearly disagree on that answer.
    ---
    Why is cutting off healthy genital tissue your husband's or your "business"? Is that not a bit fucked up? It's just cultural, is what it is. And lots of cultural practices are pretty fucked up. We have to work within our own cultures to change them.
    Because it is our son, and until he is capable of making decisions for himself, it is a parent's job to make decisions for their child. This includes health-based decisions. Like vaccines.

    Just because you made a different decision doesn't give you or anyone else any authority over my child's genitals.

    I don't see any need to change this particular custom in our case. Like I said, I spoke to plenty of people, both medical professionals and individuals, and this was the decision we came up with. It's not based on aesthetics or convenience, it was a decision and our choice. And nobody else's business.

    I love how you created this poll just to go fishing for people to troll. You clearly don't have anything better to do with your time.
    ---

    Then why are you here discussing this with me?
    Because you're being a self righteous judgmental know it all, per usual. And unless someone stands up to a bully and tells them to mind their own damned business, usually they just batter down anyone who disagrees with them.

    I'm truly surprised we haven't gotten a wall of misleading text quoting extremely questionable sources from you yet on what a barbaric practice circumcision is, and so on and so forth.

    Haha I'm reminded of this great quote by Mark Twain:

    "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
    ---

    Ohhhh I get it, now I'm stupid too! Lol

    Honestly, no, I don't think you're stupid but I think your feelings about this subject have been already stated. Your repeated dredging up of this topic and your arguments about it are getting tiresome.
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    So you don't think I'm stupid. relief washes over me in an awesome wave 8D
  • StargirlbStargirlb member
    edited September 2014
    The obvious explanation is that I participate in topics like these in order to farm for likes.
  • CL8badB said:

    Instead of worrying about our* sons penises why dont you worry about your kids getting vaccinated?
    I wonder what an intact healthy genital looks like after a kid gets the measels??

    Well, my son did get measles and his penis still looks the same.
  • My first was cut and so will this one. I'm thinking of my future daughter in laws who probably would love not having infections from an uncut husband.
  • It's funny when people who disagree with me insinuate that they would consider my points if I presented them differently. I hear that shit all the time from dudebros who disagree with me about feminism and gender issues and then move on to tone policing. Mildly amusing.
  • I for one think a topic like this one is interesting because it puts in question cultural norms, so I'm with @Stargirlb‌ that it's a more interesting topic than some of the more mundane things we discuss, provided we don't start insulting each other.

    Secondly, can we keep vaccines out of this? It's a whole other can of worms, and I don't think we should discredit @Stargirlb‌ 's opinion on circumcision because we disagree on an unrelated topic.

    Fyi, I tend to agree with @Stargirlb‌ that circumcision is mutilation, I agree with others that it's a decision that should be made by parents (both mom and dad) rather than by one unilaterally, and that all health decisions of a minor are the responsibility of the guardians.
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  • My first was cut and so will this one. I'm thinking of my future daughter in laws who probably would love not having infections from an uncut husband.

    You don't get infections from intact men. You know one of the reasons behind female circ is that natural female genitals are gross and dirty?


  • StargirlbStargirlb member
    edited September 2014
    CL8badB said:

    Stargirlb said:

    It's funny when people who disagree with me insinuate that they would consider my points if I presented them differently. I hear that shit all the time from dudebros who disagree with me about feminism and gender issues and then move on to tone policing. Mildly amusing.

    You are 100% correct with your above statement. There are right and wrong ways to share your opinion. Trying to drill it into peoples heads and making people who chose to circ feel like shit are definitely the wrong way.

    State facts or share links with helpful info. Start a healthy discussion on the topic. Dont jump on people who disagree with you. Maybe then people may consider what you have to say.
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    I've conducted myself within the TOU, to the best of my knowledge. So you can take or leave my contributions. State your own facts and share your own links.
  • @sassquatch‌ Didn't say that and I know people personally who have had problems with it. And they're not nasty, unclean men.

    That's just my opinion but who really cares?
  • Stargirlb said:

    CL8badB said:

    Instead of worrying about our* sons penises why dont you worry about your kids getting vaccinated?
    I wonder what an intact healthy genital looks like after a kid gets the measels??

    Well, my son did get measles and his penis still looks the same.
    Yeah because that's totally the same thing...not!
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    Huh? She said she wondered what a healthy intact genital looks like after measles. My sons looks exactly the same. Lol
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