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Re: For mothers of 3 or more....

  • 4littlebears4littlebears member
    edited August 2014
    babyPsarker said:
    babyPsarker said:
    How is it being well informed if you don't have the information? Did you know the average # of kids per household in the majority of the world is 2 or less? This would be an issue if it were a pressing matter. But it's not. We have far fewer kids nowadays than centuries before us. China is actually contemplating removing their cap on 1 child per family because of the amount of infanticide and selective abortion happening in their country. They have far too many boys because mothers kill their female children. Your information is merely a nice thought for sometime in the future when this is actually an issue. For now... it is not.
    No....you're totally right. I was thinking that natural resources are finite. Pollution, overpopulation, global warming—these are totally issues for the future and certainly not now.
    Who the *F said anything about global warming and pollution? Again, China is probably the biggest culprit in both of those situations and they have a declining population! Wow, you're really stuck on this and don't want to look at the facts!
    What do you think overpopulation leads to??? These issues are always intertwined.
    Except that they are not... 

    Africa = vastly growing population, also not much pollution coming out of there because they are broke.
    China = decreasing population, also leads the ENTIRE world in pollution because their government is very healthy in the $$ department! 


    Have you gotten that point yet??

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  • rachel+familyrachel+family member
    OMG @4littlebears‌ I LOVE YOU! And couldn't have said it any better
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  • rachel+familyrachel+family member
    And of course the lovely stargirlb.

    <3 :x
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    rachel+family said:

    OMG @4littlebears‌ I LOVE YOU! And couldn't have said it any better

    Haha, thanks @rachel+family‌. I guess I have my moments.
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  • texasmama786texasmama786 member
    This will be our third and that makes 3 daycare costing us $420/wk when the baby comes. I'm freaking out inside since it wasn't planned, but have decided to cloth diaper although I never would have before. I also plan to breastfeed for the entire year instead of cutting it short last time. I'm a bargain shopper and when I go grocery shopping it consists of 4 stores because I refuse to pay more for certain items when I know I can save money at the other store. I've recently gotten into couponing and I'm so impressed with those moms on extreme couponing.
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  • texasmama786texasmama786 member
    So i totally read this question wrong
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  • BookitBooBookitBoo member

    Judgemental much? Sorry you're uncomfortable having one child.
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  • 4littlebears4littlebears member
    ICarriedAWatermelon said:
    4littlebears said:
    babyPsarker said:
    How is it being well informed if you don't have the information? Did you know the average # of kids per household in the majority of the world is 2 or less? This would be an issue if it were a pressing matter. But it's not. We have far fewer kids nowadays than centuries before us. China is actually contemplating removing their cap on 1 child per family because of the amount of infanticide and selective abortion happening in their country. They have far too many boys because mothers kill their female children. Your information is merely a nice thought for sometime in the future when this is actually an issue. For now... it is not.
    No....you're totally right. I was thinking that natural resources are finite. Pollution, overpopulation, global warming—these are totally issues for the future and certainly not now.
    Who the *F said anything about global warming and pollution? Again, China is probably the biggest culprit in both of those situations and they have a declining population! Wow, you're really stuck on this and don't want to look at the facts!

    ETA: until the global rate of children are greater than 2 per household we mathematically do NOT have an increasing population. Math does not lie.

    It took from the beginning of mankind until 1804 to reach 1 billion people.
    1927 - 2 billion.
    1959 - 3 billion.
    1974 - 4 billion.
    1987 - 5 billion.
    1999 - 6 billion.
    2012 - 7 billion.

    Not only are these numbers GROWING, not DROPPING (I just can't believe you think this)... they are growing at an alarmingly and increasingly fast rate.

    Again though, this is the world population we're talking about. At the current rate of just North America and the UK, which I'm guessing is 99% or more of the women on this board, we are not personally the ones overpopulating. There is a lot that needs to be done, but I still stand by that money has a lot more to do with pollution than merely population size. That is where my logic is. Over population is happening, but trying to make a point here is moot. Argue instead for adopting overseas where there is real over population. Her very question was pointed and she even said she expected controversy which tells me she was kind of looking for it.
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  • rachel+familyrachel+family member
    @4littlebears‌ bingo! Felt like the question was saying moms of 3+ should be even more enviro friendly than all the rest. What about the person who has one or none and is a complete ass with how they live? Meanwhile sweet mama of three is busy cloth diapering all her babies and reusing all their clothes etc and gets judged for birthing more dirty polluters. Not fair.
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  • BookitBooBookitBoo member
    edited August 2014
    ICarriedAWatermelon said:


    BookitBoo said:


    Judgemental much? Sorry you're uncomfortable having one child.

    I think these are important questions for EVERYONE to think about, regardless of how many children they have. I get that it's a knee-jerk reaction to be defensive about one's choices, but stepping back and looking at the bigger picture, it's damn important! We need to get our heads out of our asses.

    There's a fantastic book by Lauren Sandler called One and Only that I bought and read when I was still considering being OAD. It's sobering, the environmental impact of just one person. "On
    average, one American will be responsible for 3.1 million pounds of
    CO2, twenty three million pounds of water waste, and more than 7,000
    pounds of food waste. Imagine if there were two chilren. Or three... The more children we have, the more we speed up
    the earth's destruction; the more time we spend parenting to the
    exclusion of all else, the more we close ourselves off to that reality.
    It's a treadmill: we're exhausting our personal resources in tandem with
    our natural resources."

    I'm not here to condemn. Nothing in my original post did that. I'm having a second kid. I understand "affairs of the heart" and all that. But don't knee-jerk condemn PPs - some good points were brought up.


    Of course these are important questions for everyone to consider. I don't think the way the OP is approaching the situation (which is extremely judgemental, btw) to cause anyone to consider any environmental issues. She's doing a lot of damage to her cause and It makes me side eye her.

    She asked if being environmentally friendly factored in for families for 3+ children. Seriously? Because having only one or two children means you don't have to be environmentally conscientious?

    I answered her honestly. My choice to have 2 to 3 children has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with the social aspect. I wasn't close in age to any of my siblings and in fact never had one in the same house as I while growing up. I'm going to have multiple children because it's important to me.That certainly doesn't make me anymore irresponsible than a person who has only one child, and anyone who implies that or assumes that is just silly.


    Sorry, but no matter how 'worthy' the cause I don't support judgey aggressive moms, and she was certainly very judgemental.

    ETA: it occurs to me you thought my post was directed at you. I didn't tag OP because I don't know her and I didn't care enough to check to tag her. If she's a regular poster then I've missed her name!

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  • EyefrogEyefrog member
    cloth diapering doesn't make one more green, it just keeps diapers out of the landfill.
    Still immune to tickers. Polite Canadian 99% of the time. SAHM of 7 soon to be 8. I read more than I post.
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  • adelelouiseadelelouise member
    Wow, some people on here are so rude! Why would anyone take time out to judge people on how many kids they have? Some people clearly have never heard the saying ... 'If you've got nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all!' Think people just like causing drama tbh .......... Get a life!!!!
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  • AggieMom0809AggieMom0809 member
    adelelouise said:
    Wow, some people on here are so rude! Why would anyone take time out to judge people on how many kids they have? Some people clearly have never heard the saying ... 'If you've got nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all!' Think people just like causing drama tbh .......... Get a life!!!!
    I'm sure they have, but that doesn't fix stupid. :)
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  • rachel+familyrachel+family member
    riansmommie said:

    June 13 was here!!!

    I'm pregnant with my third and we are far from done. Don't feel one bit guilty about it either :)

    I'm hoping for 4+
    YAY!
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  • 4littlebears4littlebears member

    rachel+family said:
    June 13 was here!!! I'm pregnant with my third and we are far from done. Don't feel one bit guilty about it either :)
    I'm hoping for 4+ YAY!
    This is baby #4 for me!!
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