I'm not trying to argue. I was trying to be supportive. She's NOT throwing her own baby shower but she knows about it. And it's potluck style just girls getting together. It's more about support. Like I said were military with no family around so this kind of support is needed. I'm not here to argue but I guess it looks that way.
By the way she isn't throwing her own shower. Someone's having it for her and it's a small group of people not that it matters.
Okay so then she doesn't get to dictate whether gifts are brought or not, she's not the host.. I don't get it. Has all common courtesy and etiquette gone out the window? You guys realize you can all get together without the gifts right? I mean honestly what does someone with two kids even need...
I'm not trying to argue. I was trying to be supportive. She's NOT throwing her own baby shower but she knows about it. And it's potluck style just girls getting together. It's more about support. Like I said were military with no family around so this kind of support is needed. I'm not here to argue but I guess it looks that way.
I'm sorry but youre all over the place and keep backtracking so I have no clue what you're saying, forgive me for trying to understand what's going on here. And I'll say it for the third time: can you guys not get together and be supportive without presents? I'm being serious
What the heck do you call it then? Your missing the point that's it's just for support. I'm sorry I didn't get the etiquette down right. Who cares what it's called?
What the heck do you call it then? Your missing the point that's it's just for support. I'm sorry I didn't get the etiquette down right. Who cares what it's called?
We are arguing that baby showers for a second child when the first has been born recently are tacky, as well as throwing your own shower is tacky. You came in here defending the opposite of what we're saying and apparently what you're describing isn't even a shower. If it's JUST for support- it's not a baby shower. Baby SHOWERS are to SHOWER the mom to be and welcome her to motherhood. If you're on your third kid, that is irrelevant.
She has a registry but no you don't have to bring anything. I guess I won't say it's for support since I said that already and she's not throwing it herself. It's just a get together with friends. Are you not familiar with military having no family nearby? This is family to us.
My co-workers have already started talking about having a baby shower for me. First, slow your roll...I'm like 2 min pregnant. It's way too early to be thinking about showers. I said it wasn't necessary, but I don't think they will listen. This is my second child, my first was 10 years ago, but I still don't think it's appropriate for people to feel obligated to get me gifts. I've worked with this group for 15 yrs, and they are some headstrong heffers (self proclaimed), so I don't think I'll be able to change their minds. When I objected, they asked why I was trying to deny them cake!
She has a registry but no you don't have to bring anything. I guess I won't say it's for support since I said that already and she's not throwing it herself. It's just a get together with friends. Are you not familiar with military having no family nearby? This is family to us.
I seriously don't think you're even hearing us lol. My stepdad was in the military. I'm well aware of being states away from all family and friends and fellow army families being your "family." That being said... It's still tacky. I'm sorry. There is no need for a registry for a third child. Support has nothing to do with it. You can be with your friend and comfort her and be there when she needs you... Baby showers have nothing to do with that. I don't think I can try any harder to differentiate support and baby showers. The two aren't the same thing.
I apologized and said that everyone has their own opinions but obviously nobody saw that. Her registry had very low prices items on it. I bought an outfit for her and that's it. I don't think she's expecting anyone to and even told people not to. I'm not having a baby shower but lunch with friends would be nice. And yeah it's way to soon to think about it.
No the friend organizing it had her create it. But I'm done now. Pregnancy hormones have me all over the place. I wasn't trying to start anything and I've never been that person.
No the friend organizing it had her create it. But I'm done now. Pregnancy hormones have me all over the place. I wasn't trying to start anything and I've never been that person.
If she didn't want gifts she should've just said no. Free will is a thing lol. But yeah I agree this couldn't possibly get any more beaten down. It sounds like a pretty tacky situation and I'm just glad I'm not involved
No the friend organizing it had her create it. But I'm done now. Pregnancy hormones have me all over the place. I wasn't trying to start anything and I've never been that person.
Funny, I have pregnancy hormones too, but I still understand the concept of a second baby shower as tacky. How about instead of blaming your "hormones" you just admit you're wrong.
1. You can't always control someone throwing you a baby shower (I was given a surprise shower by my MIL for our second) but being involved in and wanting a shower for subsequent children is tacky tacky tacky. It's not hard or rude to say "that is so thoughtful of you! But I just wouldn't feel right having a second shower. Maybe we could just all get together for a girls day before baby comes instead?" If a friend says she wants to give you a shower.
2. Asking for a specific gift= Rude. Diaper parties are asking for a specific gift.
3. I still don't get how having a shower in the only way to support a friend or loved one. A dear friend sent me a card when she found out we were having another baby. Meant a lot to me. Another friend offered to watch our kids while I had appointments or felt too sick to function. Neither of those required a shower. I can give support, and send a gift if I so choose, without being pressured to attend a second shower.
4. Sure, people can choose not to participate or bring a gift, but basic human knowledge says many will feel pressured or obligated into contributing even if they feel it's wrong. How someone would be okay with making their nearest and dearest feel awkward is beyond me.
6. A baby shower = a welcome to motherhood gift giving event. Now, I firmly believe each baby does deserve to be celebrated but that doesn't require a shower by any means. A meet the baby party is about as far as you should go. Throwing yourself any type of shower is just....not okay.
1. You can't always control someone throwing you a baby shower (I was given a surprise shower by my MIL for our second) but being involved in and wanting a shower for subsequent children is tacky tacky tacky. It's not hard or rude to say "that is so thoughtful of you! But I just wouldn't feel right having a second shower. Maybe we could just all get together for a girls day before baby comes instead?" If a friend says she wants to give you a shower.
2. Asking for a specific gift= Rude. Diaper parties are asking for a specific gift.
3. I still don't get how having a shower in the only way to support a friend or loved one. A dear friend sent me a card when she found out we were having another baby. Meant a lot to me. Another friend offered to watch our kids while I had appointments or felt too sick to function. Neither of those required a shower. I can give support, and send a gift if I so choose, without being pressured to attend a second shower.
4. Sure, people can choose not to participate or bring a gift, but basic human knowledge says many will feel pressured or obligated into contributing even if they feel it's wrong. How someone would be okay with making their nearest and dearest feel awkward is beyond me.
6. A baby shower = a welcome to motherhood gift giving event. Now, I firmly believe each baby does deserve to be celebrated but that doesn't require a shower by any means. A meet the baby party is about as far as you should go. Throwing yourself any type of shower is just....not okay.
Okay, etiquette of the big brother party/second shower aside, and having been through this with my own then-four-year-old, I don't think the best way to prepare a kid that age for no longer being the center of attention is to throw a party where he's the center of attention. There are a lot more concrete ways to prepare him for being a big brother: sibling classes at the hospital if yours offers one, books about becoming a big brother/sister (e.g. there are a couple in the Berenstain Bears series), helping your child pick out a gift, maybe a toy he had as a baby, to give his baby brother/sister at the hospital, finding actual babies he can meet in person (most kids that age don't really understand how different babies are unless they've been around them).
Also, when people gave us baby gifts for DS, they would often give a little something to DD too, and at least one uncle (she has six) made a point of giving her extra attention when everyone else was focused on DS. A lot of people realize that the oldest child will appreciate feeling special when everything becomes all about the new baby. It's not something you need to force IMO.
DD born 10/10/07 * DS born 11/25/11 * #3 due 3/9/2015
@janda426... "I mean honestly what does someone with two kids even need...
More money!!
YES.
But seriously, we need more new stuff for #3 than #2. Infant seat's expired, stroller's busted, and there's a lot of other stuff I gave away because I didn't want to keep moving/storing it when I didn't know for sure we'd have another baby. Of course we can and will buy it all ourselves, but you can't always reuse everything from the first baby indefinitely.
DD born 10/10/07 * DS born 11/25/11 * #3 due 3/9/2015
I think getting your older child involved is fine! Family threw me showers with all three previous children. I don't plan on a shower with number four unless someone insists on throwing one. I may even just have a very small gathering of close friends and family to celebrate after baby comes but no one would be obligated to buy anything. Do what feels right for you. Nothing wrong with planning ahead!
I think getting your older child involved is fine! Family threw me showers with all three previous children. I don't plan on a shower with number four unless someone insists on throwing one. I may even just have a very small gathering of close friends and family to celebrate after baby comes but no one would be obligated to buy anything. Do what feels right for you. Nothing wrong with planning ahead!
You're right there's nothing wrong with planning ahead, but there is something wrong with friends and family footing the bill for every kid you produce.
I'm confused about the registry for presents that one does not want. How does one go about creating a registry if one doesn't want anything on the registry? I say we get even more tacky and just ask for cold hard cash. This way one can spend it on pedicures, heroin and boxes of wine. Fun for the whole family!
My cousin did the bolded! Also, it said right on her Target registry that they preferred gift cards so that they could purchase their "big ticket items." Oh, and she threw her own shower. And her first child is only 2 1/2. She could teach a master class on what not to do at your baby shower.
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Estamos this reminded me of something!! I have a friend whose family threw her a shower while she was in town (she lived way out of state, like across the country). They were going to be surprised on the sex, and as a lot of you know, people like to give neutral colors like yellows and greens if they don't know boy or girl. They had the nerve to put ON THE INVITATION "please refrain from bringing yellow duckies/yellow or green items because we are doing the nursery in xyz colors and we don't want to get a lot of the same things." They also asked for gift cards instead of big items because they had no way of getting things back across the country on a plane. Even that was on the invite. I couldn't believe it!! My mom wanted to send a big ass yellow duck themed gift just because. Lol.
The funny thing is you hear these etiquette horror stories and people don't realize you'll become the example of what not to do amongst your group if you do something that tacky. Like, creating a registry then saying you don't need gifts. It sounds like you're being awkwardly polite but not really.
You're right there's nothing wrong with planning ahead, but there is something wrong with friends and family footing the bill for every kid you produce.
Hmmmm....well, I didn't say that did I? How about you stick to responding based on what the person actually writes, not what you assume? And for God's sake grow up!
I called out the psycho attention whores and now I'm not allowed to comment? Guess what? I don't even care.
You guys are pitiful.
Who cares if someone throws a baby shower? Or doesn't! It doesn't matter and there is a way to respectfully respond to an original poster without acting like a raging lunatic. Really, you all should try it.
You're right there's nothing wrong with planning ahead, but there is something wrong with friends and family footing the bill for every kid you produce.
Hmmmm....well, I didn't say that did I? How about you stick to responding based on what the person actually writes, not what you assume? And for God's sake grow up!
I called out the psycho attention whores and now I'm not allowed to comment? Guess what? I don't even care.
You guys are pitiful.
Who cares if someone throws a baby shower? Or doesn't! It doesn't matter and there is a way to respectfully respond to an original poster without acting like a raging lunatic. Really, you all should try it.
Ooops, there's your crazy....couldn't hide it long, huh??
And yea, TB never forgets. We already asked why you would want to post somewhere where you hate all of the regular contributors. Not sure why you didn't get banned in the first place, I thought I recalled some pretty serious name calling. Why would we forget that? @molassa
Re: Baby Shower
I'm sorry I'm not following. She's throwing HERSELF a THIRD baby shower? What does the invitation say?
Okay so then she doesn't get to dictate whether gifts are brought or not, she's not the host.. I don't get it. Has all common courtesy and etiquette gone out the window? You guys realize you can all get together without the gifts right? I mean honestly what does someone with two kids even need...
I'm sorry but youre all over the place and keep backtracking so I have no clue what you're saying, forgive me for trying to understand what's going on here. And I'll say it for the third time: can you guys not get together and be supportive without presents? I'm being serious
We are arguing that baby showers for a second child when the first has been born recently are tacky, as well as throwing your own shower is tacky. You came in here defending the opposite of what we're saying and apparently what you're describing isn't even a shower. If it's JUST for support- it's not a baby shower. Baby SHOWERS are to SHOWER the mom to be and welcome her to motherhood. If you're on your third kid, that is irrelevant.
Idk why you're getting so mad we're just trying to figure out what the hell you're talking about...
Head.Desk. I call that lunch with girlfriends...
I seriously don't think you're even hearing us lol. My stepdad was in the military. I'm well aware of being states away from all family and friends and fellow army families being your "family." That being said... It's still tacky. I'm sorry. There is no need for a registry for a third child. Support has nothing to do with it. You can be with your friend and comfort her and be there when she needs you... Baby showers have nothing to do with that. I don't think I can try any harder to differentiate support and baby showers. The two aren't the same thing.
If she didn't want gifts she should've just said no. Free will is a thing lol. But yeah I agree this couldn't possibly get any more beaten down. It sounds like a pretty tacky situation and I'm just glad I'm not involved
1. You can't always control someone throwing you a baby shower (I was given a surprise shower by my MIL for our second) but being involved in and wanting a shower for subsequent children is tacky tacky tacky. It's not hard or rude to say "that is so thoughtful of you! But I just wouldn't feel right having a second shower. Maybe we could just all get together for a girls day before baby comes instead?" If a friend says she wants to give you a shower.
2. Asking for a specific gift= Rude. Diaper parties are asking for a specific gift.
3. I still don't get how having a shower in the only way to support a friend or loved one. A dear friend sent me a card when she found out we were having another baby. Meant a lot to me. Another friend offered to watch our kids while I had appointments or felt too sick to function. Neither of those required a shower. I can give support, and send a gift if I so choose, without being pressured to attend a second shower.
4. Sure, people can choose not to participate or bring a gift, but basic human knowledge says many will feel pressured or obligated into contributing even if they feel it's wrong. How someone would be okay with making their nearest and dearest feel awkward is beyond me.
6. A baby shower = a welcome to motherhood gift giving event. Now, I firmly believe each baby does deserve to be celebrated but that doesn't require a shower by any means. A meet the baby party is about as far as you should go. Throwing yourself any type of shower is just....not okay.
What did I miss?
Also, when people gave us baby gifts for DS, they would often give a little something to DD too, and at least one uncle (she has six) made a point of giving her extra attention when everyone else was focused on DS. A lot of people realize that the oldest child will appreciate feeling special when everything becomes all about the new baby. It's not something you need to force IMO.
But seriously, we need more new stuff for #3 than #2. Infant seat's expired, stroller's busted, and there's a lot of other stuff I gave away because I didn't want to keep moving/storing it when I didn't know for sure we'd have another baby. Of course we can and will buy it all ourselves, but you can't always reuse everything from the first baby indefinitely.
I may even just have a very small gathering of close friends and family to celebrate after baby comes but no one would be obligated to buy anything.
Do what feels right for you. Nothing wrong with planning ahead!
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Estamos this reminded me of something!! I have a friend whose family threw her a shower while she was in town (she lived way out of state, like across the country). They were going to be surprised on the sex, and as a lot of you know, people like to give neutral colors like yellows and greens if they don't know boy or girl. They had the nerve to put ON THE INVITATION "please refrain from bringing yellow duckies/yellow or green items because we are doing the nursery in xyz colors and we don't want to get a lot of the same things." They also asked for gift cards instead of big items because they had no way of getting things back across the country on a plane. Even that was on the invite. I couldn't believe it!! My mom wanted to send a big ass yellow duck themed gift just because. Lol.
Hmmmm....well, I didn't say that did I?
How about you stick to responding based on what the person actually writes, not what you assume?
And for God's sake grow up!
I called out the psycho attention whores and now I'm not allowed to comment?
Guess what?
I don't even care.
You guys are pitiful.
Who cares if someone throws a baby shower? Or doesn't! It doesn't matter and there is a way to respectfully respond to an original poster without acting like a raging lunatic.
Really, you all should try it.
Hmmmm....
Carry on children.
To those who can answer a poster's question without resorting to shaming or putting them down, I salute you!