I was not all overly upset Robin Williams killed himself. More frustrated that they blasted his death all over the news when there is so much more important tragic things going on in the world than a rich white man being depressed and hanging himself.
I was not all overly upset Robin Williams killed himself. More frustrated that they blasted his death all over the news when there is so much more important tragic things going on in the world than a rich white man being depressed and hanging himself.
Wow! This is a bit insensitive don't you think? He is in the public eye and people want to know! While he brought so many smiles to peoples' lives while he was dying inside.
Depression does NOT discriminate! And this incident proves that, that a "white rich man" who appeared to "have it all" was so depressed that he couldn't deal with the demons anymore.
It is incredibly sad, and my heart goes out to his family, friends, and yes, even his fans.
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I don't think Shells is a troll. I think she is just an insanely awkward person with no people skills or self-awareness. It makes me feel bad for her. I really don't think she had any forethought about her post yesterday.
I am admittedly a huge softie. And still avoid her at all costs b/c I'm still pissed about the risking babies lives thing.
I am incredibly sad about Robin Williams. I don't care who you are, how rich or poor you are, how known or unknown you are. Depression SUCKS and I can speak from personal experience having been depressed in the past AND having it almost take the lives of two people very near and dear to me. Raising awareness will be a good thing. What does piss me off, is that although Obama released some statement about Robin Williams (which is indeed appropriate IMO given that RW was a very prominent face on this earth), but has pretty much ignored the SHIT that is going on in St. Louis right now! And what is going on in St. Louis right now is R I D I C U L O U S!!!!!
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I've seen a couple statements from Obama about St. Louis this far. I don't think he's ignoring it. There's also not much he can do at the moment as president. It's an ongoing investigation so he cant take one side or the other until more is known.
@babycaps this might reinforce your post because I (FFTC?) have no idea what you are talking about in reference to St. Louis.
The people's right to peacefully assemble is being trampled on by the police. People were protesting the shooting of yet another unarmed black man and the police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at them. It's disgraceful. The police also are blacking out the media from reporting on it.
ETA: Please share this info on social media. There is very little information coming out of Ferguson and these people need the rest of the country aware of the situation. Frankly, I think the President should be sending in the National Guard to protect the residents from the police.
I am incredibly sad about Robin Williams. I don't care who you are, how rich or poor you are, how known or unknown you are. Depression SUCKS and I can speak from personal experience having been depressed in the past AND having it almost take the lives of two people very near and dear to me. Raising awareness will be a good thing. What does piss me off, is that although Obama released some statement about Robin Williams (which is indeed appropriate IMO given that RW was a very prominent face on this earth), but has pretty much ignored the SHIT that is going on in St. Louis right now! And what is going on in St. Louis right now is R I D I C U L O U S!!!!!
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I've seen a couple statements from Obama about St. Louis this far. I don't think he's ignoring it. There's also not much he can do at the moment as president. It's an ongoing investigation so he cant take one side or the other until more is known.
Oh, but he can. People's constitutional rights are being trampled on. He most definitely can.
I was also very sad about Robin Williams. But some of the stuff I saw on Facebook (genie your free, etc) make me nervous. Seeing a few of my students struggle with depression, and one who attempted suicide makes me worried that this may make them think it's the right chioice, and that they will be "free". Like a few other people said, let's use the opportunity to spread awareness about depression, and how to get help for people struggling!
I was not all overly upset Robin Williams killed himself. More frustrated that they blasted his death all over the news when there is so much more important tragic things going on in the world than a rich white man being depressed and hanging himself.
Wow! This is a bit insensitive don't you think? He is in the public eye and people want to know! While he brought so many smiles to peoples' lives while he was dying inside.
Depression does NOT discriminate! And this incident proves that, that a "white rich man" who appeared to "have it all" was so depressed that he couldn't deal with the demons anymore.
It is incredibly sad, and my heart goes out to his family, friends, and yes, even his fans.
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I am not devaluing the tragedy of depression at all. I have gone through depression and my father is bipolar and had multiple issues with depression. I just believe there are more issues that can be focused on in the news besides this. Yes he had massive talent, but more important things are occuring.
I'm tired of the debate about whether teachers are paid enough.
This was again 'worked out' as a cost-per-child on a news story asking whether schools in Canada should be closed if busses are cancelled. The pay a teacher receives has nothing to do with snow days and whether schools should be open or closed.
No, I don't want to debate their pay, I'm just saying it has NOTHING to do with snow days.
@babycaps this might reinforce your post because I (FFTC?) have no idea what you are talking about in reference to St. Louis.
The people's right to peacefully assemble is being trampled on by the police. People were protesting the shooting of yet another unarmed black man and the police fired tear gas and rubber bullets at them. It's disgraceful. The police also are blacking out the media from reporting on it.
ETA: Please share this info on social media. There is very little information coming out of Ferguson and these people need the rest of the country aware of the situation. Frankly, I think the President should be sending in the National Guard to protect the residents from the police.
So are they going to protect the business owners from the looting and fires as well? What about the peaceful residents trying to clean up the messes made by violent protests?
I am not saying what the police did is right at all. In fact I really hope the investigation prove fruitful and everyone gets the information they deserve. But residents of Ferguson going after after residents in a more affluent area saying that the "rich white have to pay now..." not cool, and in no way has bearing on the situation that happened to the poor soul who was killed. Its just an excuse to incite violence and won't solve anything.
I also don't think people need to know the details of Robin Williams's death. I know all of it just from watching the news once. I think it's very personal. I hope this whole situation brings to light that depression knows no race, class, gender, religion, etc etc etc, instead of somehow encouraging others to commit suicide themselves.
I am also in the camp that anything that brings attention to depression and urges people to get help is important. I have long suffered from anxiety and depression and just restarted medication. I lost a close friend in high school to suicide and, to be honest, it is one of the reasons I wanted to work with students with emotional impairments. I sincerely hope that our country begins to see mental health disorders as important illnesses that need treatment, not just as "suck it up" or "stop being sad". That is just ignorant.
I live in Missouri and I think what's happening in Ferguson is absolutely ridiculous. The looting, rioting, fires etc is just taking away from what actually happened. What happened to the teenager was HORRIBLE, and uncalled for, but what does burning down a fucking gas station solve? His family has even said they don't want their son to be rembered this way, but it's only getting worse. I have friends that live near Ferguson and they're afraid to leave their home.
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Ditto!!!!! And if I have a girl, no Girl Scouts either!
Is there something wrong with either that you want to share?
I disagree with their (Boy Scouts) open discrimination of homosexuals. Girl Scouts is a sister organization but not the same. I would have to do more research about their policies and practices, but really I hate selling shit so my daughters wouldn't be in Girl Scouts either most likely.
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I'm not sure how other news stations report incidents of suicide but I think it truly only helps other suffering from the same hardships if actual direction is given. What I mean by this is something along the lines of 'if you are suffering from depression or having thoughts of suicide, please reach out to XYZ services to get the help you need.' Or on the other side 'if you know someone who seems to be suffereing from XYZ, please do the following.' Our local news here just states that Robin Williams took his life, and states the details around that. It doesn't point others in a resourceful direction, which, to me, doesn't make it about helping others who may be in a similar situation. Having something in common with someone who took their own life doesn't help find a solution. If it causes people to look into it and gets it some attention, that's obviously great; but, I'd be curious to know how much that actually happens, especially once the media attention falls off.
Girl scouts does not agree with the stance of boy scouts. They aren't linked to that at all.
That's what I thought because I did a little research when I wanted to buy cookies as I didn't want to financially support an organization that held the views of the Boy Scouts.
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I hate Frankie on Big Brother and think he needs to go home. I also don't like how the network is reconfiguring things to keep him in the show as long as possible.
I'm over him too.
I hate Christine. She's five seconds away from shoving her tongue down Cody's throat and she's freaking married.
AriaAmante143 I am so glad more people have this view.
We go up to STL this weekend to look at houses for our move... great timing
I will say most areas of STL (and surrounding suburbs) are fine.
Oh I know, I have a rental house there right now. I am not worried too much. Most of what we are looking at will be pretty far away from north county anyway. I like being more on the south side or west of the city. I just think its really awful that people want to blame one side, either way. There are bad choices being made by both the police and the residents, and good ones as well.
But the news wants to say its all peaceful protest and rubber bullets....or its all looting and violence. No one shows the residents out there trying to clean up the next morning....just sad that this is what their community has come to.
In regards to the Ferguson looting- I live about 15 minutes from where it is all happening. My DH has been sleeping on the couch with a gun next to him. I agree that justice needs to be served, but violent looting and tearing down businesses is not the way to get it.
I do not believe the police are overacting as I have seen what the looters have been doing and the police reaction is to those who are NOT protesting peacefully... at all. There have been posts of the County police officers' home addresses and they are being targeted because they are cops.
I understand they are claiming racism, and I am not saying it wasn't- but targeting "all white people" and "all cops" to take it out on is stating that all cops/white people are in one set group= not true.
I may not have a complete understanding of what happened when he was shot (no one does at this point) but I do have a first hand realistic view of the violence that has ensued afterwards and in no way is it peaceful or proving a valid point IMO.
In regards to the Ferguson looting- I live about 15 minutes from where it is all happening. My DH has been sleeping on the couch with a gun next to him. I agree that justice needs to be served, but violent looting and tearing down businesses is not the way to get it.
I do not believe the police are overacting as I have seen what the looters have been doing and the police reaction is to those who are NOT protesting peacefully... at all. There have been posts of the County police officers' home addresses and they are being targeted because they are cops.
I understand they are claiming racism, and I am not saying it wasn't- but targeting "all white people" and "all cops" to take it out on is stating that all cops/white people are in one set group= not true.
I may not have a complete understanding of what happened when he was shot (no one does at this point) but I do have a first hand realistic view of the violence that has ensued afterwards and in no way is it peaceful or proving a valid point IMO.
I absolutely agree. Now they're demanding the name of the police officer be released "in the name if transparency". at this point id fear someone would hunt down his family and murder them once his name is released. That's how our of control it's gotten.
I also don't think people need to know the details of Robin Williams's death. I know all of it just from watching the news once. I think it's very personal. I hope this whole situation brings to light that depression knows no race, class, gender, religion, etc etc etc, instead of somehow encouraging others to commit suicide themselves.
What the fuck? How does his death encourage others?!? Talking about it brings up awareness which helps people identify issues and hopefully get intervention..
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I think, but could be wrong, that she means things like the "You're free Genie" graphic showing others who are struggling that they too can free if they commit suicide. Someone mentioned that a little further back in thread.
Regarding Ferguson, my gripe is not with the use of force to dispel looters. My gripe is with the use of force to dispel peaceful protesters, which, if you watch the video I posted, they were. In addition, the police were ordering the media to stop recording which is also illegal.
Frankly, EVERYONE should be outraged at this. The people (you, me, those in Ferguson, and all US citizens) have a right to peacefully assemble. The press has the right to report it. What the police officers did last night was illegal.
I hate Frankie on Big Brother and think he needs to go home. I also don't like how the network is reconfiguring things to keep him in the show as long as possible.
I'm over him too.
I hate Christine. She's five seconds away from shoving her tongue down Cody's throat and she's freaking married.
The bumbo seat is an unnecessary baby product. I'm don't understand why they were so popular.
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In regards to the Ferguson looting- I live about 15 minutes from where it is all happening. My DH has been sleeping on the couch with a gun next to him. I agree that justice needs to be served, but violent looting and tearing down businesses is not the way to get it.
I do not believe the police are overacting as I have seen what the looters have been doing and the police reaction is to those who are NOT protesting peacefully... at all. There have been posts of the County police officers' home addresses and they are being targeted because they are cops.
I understand they are claiming racism, and I am not saying it wasn't- but targeting "all white people" and "all cops" to take it out on is stating that all cops/white people are in one set group= not true.
I may not have a complete understanding of what happened when he was shot (no one does at this point) but I do have a first hand realistic view of the violence that has ensued afterwards and in no way is it peaceful or proving a valid point IMO.
I absolutely agree. Now they're demanding the name of the police officer be released "in the name if transparency". at this point id fear someone would hunt down his family and murder them once his name is released. That's how our of control it's gotten.
Stay safe.
I wish protests of this magnitude were not necessary. Unfortunately, without the protests, no one would even be talking about another young black male shot and killed by the police. Let's not even get started on the historical and current failure of our justice system to provide justice for all..
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Funny tidbit about 4H. In high school my track team would always go to this restaurant after a few meets to hang out... We were a bit rowdy so eventually they banned us....... UNTIL we started making reservations as the 4H club. Then we were a-ok lol
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Depression does NOT discriminate! And this incident proves that, that a "white rich man" who appeared to "have it all" was so depressed that he couldn't deal with the demons anymore.
It is incredibly sad, and my heart goes out to his family, friends, and yes, even his fans.
Eta:typos
This was again 'worked out' as a cost-per-child on a news story asking whether schools in Canada should be closed if busses are cancelled.
The pay a teacher receives has nothing to do with snow days and whether schools should be open or closed.
No, I don't want to debate their pay, I'm just saying it has NOTHING to do with snow days.
I am not saying what the police did is right at all. In fact I really hope the investigation prove fruitful and everyone gets the information they deserve. But residents of Ferguson going after after residents in a more affluent area saying that the "rich white have to pay now..." not cool, and in no way has bearing on the situation that happened to the poor soul who was killed. Its just an excuse to incite violence and won't solve anything.
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I hate Christine. She's five seconds away from shoving her tongue down Cody's throat and she's freaking married.
But the news wants to say its all peaceful protest and rubber bullets....or its all looting and violence. No one shows the residents out there trying to clean up the next morning....just sad that this is what their community has come to.
In regards to the Ferguson looting- I live about 15 minutes from where it is all happening. My DH has been sleeping on the couch with a gun next to him. I agree that justice needs to be served, but violent looting and tearing down businesses is not the way to get it.
I do not believe the police are overacting as I have seen what the looters have been doing and the police reaction is to those who are NOT protesting peacefully... at all. There have been posts of the County police officers' home addresses and they are being targeted because they are cops.
I understand they are claiming racism, and I am not saying it wasn't- but targeting "all white people" and "all cops" to take it out on is stating that all cops/white people are in one set group= not true.
I may not have a complete understanding of what happened when he was shot (no one does at this point) but I do have a first hand realistic view of the violence that has ensued afterwards and in no way is it peaceful or proving a valid point IMO.
Stay safe.
Ugh. Christine.
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Funny tidbit about 4H. In high school my track team would always go to this restaurant after a few meets to hang out... We were a bit rowdy so eventually they banned us....... UNTIL we started making reservations as the 4H club. Then we were a-ok lol