Omg this 4 month sleep regression sucks!!'

J&NL · July 2014

I think right now that might be what she needs. Everything is a phase with babies so don't fret, you'll most likely get your sleeper back. Take it day by day and go with the flow.

hordol · July 2014

I decided to start our bedtime routine at 6:30 last night (before we were doing 7 or 7:30) and DS went down easy. Score!

But...he was up every hour for the first 3ish hours then up every 2 after. So. Tired. I think Part of it is that I left the room (he sleeps in our room with us) to do some stuff around the house and he has a sixth sense about being left alone while sleeping and wasn't able to sleep well. Typically after I put him down I just watch tv in bed for the rest of the evening but I was hoping he had grown out of this...not yet I guess. We will keep trying. All in all his wake time was the same, so putting him down earlier did not result in an earlier waking.

Like @*sparky*, DS has longer naps (when I'm actually able to get him to nap, lol) so we would never be able to do 4 of them. I figured it doesn't matter the number so much as the quality. Baby 411 has a chart that says 3 month old should be getting 4.5 hrs of day sleep. DS probably gets that much in two naps, so I'm not worried about getting 4 exactly.

J&NL · July 2014

dani+california said:
But pulling your hair out over it and trying to duplicate someone else's results in one night seems so stressful! Go easy on yourselves and try to be flexible. I know it fucking sucks and we're tired and desperate.

If there was truly one solution, we'd all be using it by now! Good luck!

All of this. Yeah, they aren't sleeping as well right now but as you can tell from the board, every kid is doing it. Just go with the flow and try to compensate rather than "fix" it because it'll pass. There will be more times when they don't want to sleep and it's frustrating. Like when my two year old woke up multiple times a night but it passed!

steph1977 · August 2014

Is anyone else still dealing with this?? Ever since I moved my LO from the RNP to the crib, he has gone from waking 1-2x/night to 5-6. We've tried an earlier bedtime and frequent naps, but he already goes to bed around 7 and he typically won't stay down for more than 30 min at a time for naps. This has gone on now for 16 days straight and I am beyond exhausted. Any advice?? He's 16 weeks old -- I can't swaddle him since he's rolling. TIA!

hlm184 · August 2014

steph1977 said:

Is anyone else still dealing with this?? Ever since I moved my LO from the RNP to the crib, he has gone from waking 1-2x/night to 5-6. We've tried an earlier bedtime and frequent naps, but he already goes to bed around 7 and he typically won't stay down for more than 30 min at a time for naps. This has gone on now for 16 days straight and I am beyond exhausted. Any advice?? He's 16 weeks old -- I can't swaddle him since he's rolling. TIA!

We're still trucking. Almost 18 weeks old here, and the wonder week is week 19 I believe, which plays into the growth spurt/sleep regression trifecta of horror.

*sparky* · August 2014

Yeah, we're in wonder week 16 here and DD had learned to roll onto her belly so no more swaddling. Then she wakes up mad that she's on her belly because she can't roll back yet. Pretty sure she's on a growth spurt too because all she wants to do is nurse. So I am pretty freakin tired and so is she. I think last night I was in her room every 2 hours and she was up for the day at 6 am.

snowbound · August 2014

I sure hope more naps = better sleep. My LO is a terrible napper/sleeper which is partially his fault but mostly the environment. He cannot nap here whatsoever and I feel terrible.

Holljade · August 2014

I thought I made it through the sleep regression. Vin was waking up every three hours at night.

Now he is waking up every 1 1/2-2 hours at night.

During the day only naps 45 mins (I work with him home so while I cherish those 45 mins, I was hoping for longer stretches)

My daughter was a bad sleeper too- WHYYYY?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

juniper75 · August 2014

Yeah we are living this too - I used to get one 4-6 hour stretch which was lovely. A couple of weeks ago her sleep started getting worse and now she is waking every 2 hours. She will be 4 months on Tuesday - please let this end soon.

steph1977 · August 2014

Holljade said:
I thought I made it through the sleep regression. Vin was waking up every three hours at night.

Now he is waking up every 1 1/2-2 hours at night.

During the day only naps 45 mins (I work with him home so while I cherish those 45 mins, I was hoping for longer stretches)

My daughter was a bad sleeper too- WHYYYY?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel your pain. My DD was a terrible sleeper, but I was so sure this one would be different. Wrong! Praying we all get some sleep soon.

Laroo0220 · August 2014

Things have gotten a teeny bit better for us in that its not taking over an hour to get her to sleep but she is still waking every 2-3 hrs at night and only napping 45 min. Hopefully we can slowly get her to stop waking at night but the nap thing doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. It's 45 min no matter if its the crib, swing, carseat or ergo. Grrrr

Laroo0220 · August 2014

Oh and we're going on 3 wks of this nonsense and she just turned 4 months today

Mmk724 · August 2014

DS is waking about every 2 to 3 hours wanting to eat. He used to go 6 to 8 hours, eat and then another 2 to 3. Min guessing he's actually hungry and not just wanting comfort because he's eating for awhile. Are other LO's eating during all those wake ups or just needed comforted to fall back asleep?

Laroo0220 · August 2014

My LO needs to eat. We've tried the comfort thing and it just doesn't work so I have been feeding her for only 3-4 min then putting her back down. It's
Enough to get her back to sleep and hopefully not enough to keep the habit going

*sparky* · August 2014

Seriously! I feel like I have a newborn again. @Mmk724 - DD wants to eat when she wakes and like your LO she is nursing for a while. The other night she woke up at 10 and had only been asleep for 2 hours so I tried giving her a paci and tried rocking, etc. Boy did she get pissed!! She wanted the boob and nothing else would do! These babies are so lucky they are cute

Mmk724 · August 2014

@*sparky* - I also try the paci and he starts talking really loud as if to say "wtf is this"!?. I sent my husband in 2 hours after he ate last night because I figured he couldn't be hungry and he freaked! I finally get my husband on board to help at night and DS always wants to eat so it's pointless for him to even wake up. I guess I can't be irritated if he's truly waking out of hunger but does that mean these wake ups are going to last a really long time?!?!

cjpell0 · August 2014

My guy will only accept the boob too, the paci works to calm him most of the time, but he doesn't truly settle unless he's nursing. He's up almost every hour now...

RocksInTheWater · August 2014

Usually the pacifier worked to soothe him back to sleep in the MOTN but over the past week, he has wanted to eat around 4 am most mornings. His usually wake up time to eat had been 6 am.

hlm184 · August 2014

We had a week or so of hourly (or less!) wakings. Now I'm bringing him into bed with me after he wakes up the first time, which isn't for everyone I know, but we're back to two hours a fair bit of the time.

steph1977 · August 2014

Yup, my little guy needs the boob to settle, too. Last night during the first waking I attempted to calm him with rocking, paci, cuddles, etc. and he fussed for over an hour before I finally gave in and nursed him. He ate for maybe 5 min then fell asleep. @Mmk724‌ , he's doing "wtf" exactly like you described, but grunting it loudly.

KM0715 · August 2014

Were on week 2 or 3 of waking 4-7 times a night. Last night has been the best so far with only 3 wake ups. My only saving grace is that she sleeps like a rock in her swing, so sometime between 3 and 6am everyday I move her to the swing in our room so we can all get some sleep. She will also only nap 30 mins during the day (unless in the swing), so I allow 1 swing nap a day to get some good sleep in. I'm really hoping this ends soon and is just the 4 month regression and not the new norm (she'll be 4 months on Sunday)

Laroo0220 · August 2014

Ok ladies there may be hope. LO slept until 6:30 am last night!!! She had been waking every 2 or 3 hrs for 3 weeks. I'm def not going to get used to this but it gives me hope that there may be an end in sight to this nonsense!!!

Jennick602 · August 2014

Ditto in this house too!! Just starting to get back to 2 hourly wake ups instead of 10min cat naps all night and LO starts to teeth!!
It's never ending!!

Laroo0220 · August 2014

And now we have had 2 wake ups so far tonight and it took an hr to get her to bed. Why???!!!

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cjpell0 · August 2014

It's still taking multiple attempts to get down but the past 2 nights he's slept from 12-5/6!!!

*sparky* · August 2014

Just popping in to say I am so.fucking.tired. And still 21 days to go in leap 4. I-)

*sparky* · August 2014

Just popping in to say I am so.fucking.tired. And still 21 days to go in leap 4. I-)

Laroo0220 · August 2014

Yeah last night did not turn out to be anything like the night bf. grrrr. 5 wake ups and needed to be fed 4 of the times. Awful. Caffeine please!

hlm184 · August 2014

MrsW26 said:

We'd already essentially been doing the EASY method and frequent napping (no more than 1.5 hours of awake time). I think some babies are just affected more than others and I think the sleep regression is a real thing. What pissed me off about that blog is it seemed to suggest that if your baby had trouble sleeping at 4 months it was wholly your fault.

Yeah, I struggled with this as well. We have excellent naps during the day, textbook even. Nights? Awful.

hordol · August 2014

Jessieann1020 said:
I found the same blog that @WifeofaComposer‌ referenced. It really works. We implemented the frequent naps schedule and he has sttn since we started. I don't think it is a coincidence!

Not for us. DS doesn't give a crap about what he's supposed to do.

Laroo0220 · August 2014

Yeah we have tried doing that stuff exactly how she suggests and nothing has changed

*sparky* · August 2014

Sorry @hordol but your post made me laugh. DD must have missed that blog too because she really could not care less what she should be doing right now. She wants to lay on her belly, scoot around in her crib, and cry out for mommy at all hours of the night.

juniper75 · August 2014

The last two nights have been back to normal for us. I am so relieved. Now before you ladies want to poke my eyes out, normal for us is waking 3 times a night...

snowbound · August 2014

I call BS on that blog. It may work for some but in my experience it did the exact opposite.

hordol · August 2014

I'm losing my mind. DS was up somewhere between 5-6 times last night. He's been wanting to nurse almost constantly at night for the past 3-4 weeks. A paci won't cut it. If he's going to wake up, I would actually rather nurse him than do anything else because my supply is just barely enough here, so I don't mind him boosting it. Although I can't wait for the time when he sleeps again and I can pump and save some of this milk!

I've been waking DH once or twice a night to try helping with these many wakings but all DS wants is boob so it's all in vain. And contrary to popular belief...the amount of naps DS takes a day makes no difference. Sighhhhhh

I know it's a phase but it's been almost a month. Work starts for me tomorrow for the school year.

Anyone have any tricks, besides the napping thing, that have made a difference at all? We have a bedtime routine and usually put him down around 7, but earlier of he's showing any signs of being tired. (Yesterday was 6:30 cause I noticed him rubbing his eyes.)

hlm184 · August 2014

hordol said:

I'm losing my mind. DS was up somewhere between 5-6 times last night. He's been wanting to nurse almost constantly at night for the past 3-4 weeks. A paci won't cut it. If he's going to wake up, I would actually rather nurse him than do anything else because my supply is just barely enough here, so I don't mind him boosting it. Although I can't wait for the time when he sleeps again and I can pump and save some of this milk! I've been waking DH once or twice a night to try helping with these many wakings but all DS wants is boob so it's all in vain. And contrary to popular belief...the amount of naps DS takes a day makes no difference. Sighhhhhh I know it's a phase but it's been almost a month. Work starts for me tomorrow for the school year. Anyone have any tricks, besides the napping thing, that have made a difference at all? We have a bedtime routine and usually put him down around 7, but earlier of he's showing any signs of being tired. (Yesterday was 6:30 cause I noticed him rubbing his eyes.)

Only thing helping here at all is bed sharing, since I don't really have to get up to pop him on the boob. And with work starting for you I know this is super rough

hordol · August 2014

MrsW26 said:
I liked the Sleep Lady's take on it a lot better. Gave some good suggestions with less guilt and panic.

Sorry if I missed this--what was the sleep lady's article?

cjpell0 · August 2014

@hordol nothing except bedsharing worked and that BARELY worked. As bad as it sounds, the only guaranteed way for us to sleep was to sleep with LO on our chest on the floor. We also had to be slightly elevated and it only gave us about 2 hours. Last week we only got 2-4 hours on any given night and we're both working full time. But on Friday something clicked and his sleep started improving. I want to say we've been dealing with this for about 3 weeks. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, I just don't know how far the tunnel will be.

Laroo0220 · August 2014

@hordol‌ sorry to hear its been so rough for you

I hear you though. It has mostly been hell here and I start work fri. It's going to be one rough first week if I'm dealing with this. The only thing that has made a difference for us is giving her a lovey and obviously that only helps for getting her down easier. As far as the wake ups I've got nothing. We will have a good night and try to duplicate it and end up with a ton of wake ups. The end has got to be here soon!

LaurStar25 · August 2014

Oh my goodness, I thought I was the only one going through this with their 4 month old! He was sleeping so good a few weeks ago and now he's just a mess and won't go back to sleep for hours at night! I am trying everything I can, but I think there is just something developmentally going on with his brain where he is just too excited and stimulated to sleep sometimes. Sigh...just bought a coffee maker for the first time in my life

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