I totally disagree. I am very pro-homeschool. My kids get plenty of socialization without being subjected to the bad influence of public school kids. I'm not saying every kid that is in public school is a bad influence but there are more that are bad than good. All I know is right before I took my son out of public school he came home and told me other boys were looking at porn on their iphones. I don't wan't my children exposed to that kind of stuff at such a young age.
you realize you're calling a majority of people bad...because your son saw "porn" on an iPhone. How does he know what porn is? And how old are these sensitive children with iPhones?
Ps- trimming that quote and adding the image was very hard on the iPad. But I'm dedicated.
I don't like homeschooling because a lot of the people who do it are not smart enough to be teaching their kids. I'm also not a fan of the sheltering mentality that often goes with it.
@kacie I'm not calling the majority of people bad. I am saying that most of the kids at public schools come from homes that have different views about what is right and wrong. Our morals and values do not align. Therefore, I choose to limit the exposure my son has to these children.
I'm super curious about your morals and values now.
kacie I'm not calling the majority of people bad. I am saying that most of the kids at public schools come from homes that have different views about what is right and wrong. Our morals and values do not align. Therefore, I choose to limit the exposure my son has to these children.
Re: bolded- this is diversity and inclusion. To surround oneself with people that don't think how you think and learn to question the beliefs you were raised with. You may find them weaker/stronger than you realized.
You still are saying that different = bad. Your choice to do as you please with school. But don't suggest that MOST are immoral because we like porn. Psh.
We can just agree to disagree on this topic because we can talk about it all night long and just go in circles. I personally am headed to bed before my LO starts waking up.
thought - how are you teaching sex education in your curriculum?
I have 3 mins left in my football game. Then bedtime.
I don't like homeschooling because a lot of the people who do it are not smart enough to be teaching their kids. I'm also not a fan of the sheltering mentality that often goes with it.
This do much. I'm a product of homeschooling (a portion of my childhood) and a ridiculous amount of sheltering. The second I went to college I went CRAZY!
Since FBW brought it up, my UO is that I've always used the proper terms for body parts with my children. Never cutesy names. MIL has great difficulty using the proper names and it drives me nuts even though DH and I have explained to her that we don't want the kids being taught the wrong words. Thankfully the kids are with me more, so they will just think she is weird. Lol.
Also, when DD was a preschooler and asked why I was bleeding in the shower, I explained my period to her. She was okay with it. She still knows more than most of her class about anatomy.
I guess overall, my UO: I think parents should teach kids young, especially when asked, about their bodies.
* I had never heard the word penis until I was 10 and vagina around age 11. Clitoris? 16? IMO that was late, too late, but my mom never talked about anything like that.
I think that homeschooling can be done properly, and is useful in some situations. However, I have never seen it be useful if your purpose is to shelter your kids. They will be exposed to porn and and other things at some point in their lives. I would much rather teach my child how to respond to things like that instead of sheltering them from it.
With that said, you need much more than knowledge to be a good teacher.
@mommyKT310 your comment implies that all you need to be a good teacher is content knowledge. So not true! I have seen teachers who hold doctorates struggle to be good high school teachers, because they lack the skill to teach. Teaching is a combination of many skills, knowledge is just one of them!
I will always send my kids to public school. I think meeting new people, making new friends, dealing with disappointment, learning to juggle different classes, turning in work on time, etc. are invaluable life lessons.
Lastly, saying that there are more bad public schools than good is just not true. A majority of teachers really care about their students, and their education. They are not in it for the pay!
I absolutely agree on using the proper names for ALL body parts. Otherwise, children get the impression that there is something dirty or wrong with the body part that needs the euphemism.
Oooh, I actually did see porn in school!! I can't believe I forgot about it! In kindergarten a little boy brought in a cut out from his dad's magazine. It was a naked girl bending over and another girl licking her rear. I remember it vividly. Can you imagine that parent teacher conference??
Caring who your kids are around and who is influencing them is what makes me link the two in my mind. It's rare to see backlash when someone talks shit about a MIL and not wanting their child around them - it's never, "they're going to deal with plenty of batshit crazy people in their life. Use it as a teaching opportunity!" I get that some of the public school comments were judgy and set people off - but, I think they were no worse than the judgment laid on homeschooled parents/kids.
I think for one we are talking about infants who have no choice but be subjected to whomever you chose to be around vs school age children who can learn how to communicated and discuss things they feel or that you have taught them are innapropriate.
Ok, I'm assuming the homeschool comment was sparked by my comment in the SAHM's thread about me thinking about homeschooling DS.
Let me just say this.
When I was 9 years old, I knew I wanted to be a teacher. I grew up in a small town with a pretty good public school. I excelled in high school graduating in the top of my class, went to college earned a teaching degree and taught in the public school system (high school) for seven years.
DH has a brother and one sister, one of which has DS. ALL of them were home-schooled until they were in high school. I used to be totally against homeschooling, and couldn't understand why parents would "shelter" their children like that. I was naive and close-minded in my thinking. DH and his siblings had SO many opportunities while being home-schooled. They had home-school groups where they went to different houses every week and had a different style of teaching, they went on field trips to museums, the zoo, NASA, etc. As a family, they could go on vacations whenever they wanted. They were apart of church groups, little league, boy scouts, etc.
Neither one of his parents have a college degree, although they are very intelligent. Once they got to high school they excelled there too. DH went in as a Freshmen ahead academically as his peers; He joined the marching band, and as a sophomore, he was section leader of the percussion; he was in Boys' State, NHS, Mock Trial, and numerous honor's classes. He went on to college and was apart of the marching band there as well where again, was a section leader as a Sophomore! He graduated college with honors with a criminal justice degree, and an almost double minor in computer science and business computers. He is a leader in his company, and will eventually become CEO/President of said company. He is a leader in our community and involved in many organizations and serves on several boards. He was the head drummer for the praise and worship team of our 1,500 member church until he decided to step-down when LO was born.
His brother owns his own company, and is also an active member in our community.
None of them were "sheltered" to what was happening in the "real world." One of his sister's got involved with drugs, had a child at 19 and went on to have 2 more kids with two other guys. She is now married and has her life back on track. His brother also got involved in drugs, and quit college because his girlfriend, now wife got pregnant, so he had to go to work to support his family.
I've seen the outcome first hand home-schooled kids. Were they/are they perfect? No. Are they socially inept? No. Are they successful? Yes!! They were home-schooled and public-schooled. I'm the outcome of public school. Am I perfect? No. Am I socially inept? No. Am I successful? Yes. Oh, and I never saw porn, did drugs, had sex, drank alcohol, etc. until I was in college. (I never did drugs or saw porn even in college).
There are some parents that give homeschooling a bad name/reputation. There are parents and teachers that give public school a bad name/reputation. I think what it comes down to is what is best for your family, and one side should not judge the other for the decisions they make for their family.
I'm not sure what will will decide to do with DS once he is old enough for school. We will pray about it (have already started) and make that decision when the time comes. I'm sure we will be judged no matter what decision we make, but we do what is best for our family.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with homeschool , public school , private school , no school. Your children your prerogative.
I agree. Except for the no school. Lol it's also my prerogative to call the police for education neglect.
WELL yea I'm just saying, its your child and people can educate them however they want to. I went to public school I had a good education. I had a best friend that was homeschooled, she was " normal". And I've had friends that went to private school. Its all in how you want your child's education to be.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with homeschool , public school , private school , no school. Your children your prerogative.
And thinking like this is why society sucks.. Looking at the history of society and seeing the kids that are coming into the work force out of this mentality.. (That I employ because they are to dumb to go to college) no. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Education is super important to me . We've already been saving for Harper to go to the VERY best private school in our county. That's our choice . And my child wont be to stupid she cant go to college ! what I meant by my statement was that who cares where your kids go to school. As long as the get an education it doesn't matter if its private , public, home school. Parents are going to choose what best suites their family.
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I agree with @WisconsinCheese12. Both my husband and my father never graduated. My dad dropped out because he needed to support his family. My husband got his associates and didn't continue after his dad died. Neither one of them is dumb, and saying so is extremely naive.
I can't bold because I'm on mobile, but you talked about employees being "to dumb to go to college". In reality, there are lots of reasons people don't go to college (can't afford it, not right for their career, family problems, etc.)
If I misunderstood what are you saying, I apologize.
Where I live I have seen 'homeschooling group field trips' where all the kids in an area can meet up to go together. Where I grew up, I had never heard of anyone homeschooling. I now know several families that do it.
I think if they have the ability, patience and smarts to do it, great. Honestly, sometimes I think my DD would do better homeschooled than at public school, but I don't have the patience to try it myself. Maybe I can find a private full time tutor. :-?
@babycaps who do you bank with? My husband works for Chase and said their fee is $15, but he frequently waves it for people depending on the situation.
Charter schools were created back in the day in response to the supposed lack of innovative teaching/schooling that public schools offer. A way to think outside the box in terms of education. At the end of the day they were created in hopes the achievement gap would close. Nowadays charter schools are mainly an attempt to privatize education.
These are some main issues I have...
1) Public education must (and should) educate all students regardless of who they are and how they act. Charter schools can simply return students back to their public school if they don't behave.
2) Charter schools get money from the public education budget for each child that enrolls but this hurts public ed funding substantially.
3) The achievement gap has not improved since the advent of Charter schools.
4) Because of reason #1, I would argue that they could possibly be a significant reason why reason #3 is still a problem.
This is not to say ALL charter schools are evil but the foundation of their existence is wrong and the few charter schools that are "doing it right" doesn't quite make up for it.
I would even argue that if a charter school is "doing it right" it would not be with practices that are sustainable on a national level... And isn't the point to improve education for all? Why not just invest in public education so that everyone can benefit?
@NorthernLghts a charter school is like a public school except they are independently run. It's like having the freedoms of a private school (but not quite as much as an actual private school) but being funded with tax dollars instead of tuition paid by parents.
2. It's really hard to find a job around here and I'll take what I can get right now. I've been with the school for 4 years now. I need my salary and health benefits. I will be looking somewhere else at the end of next year though.
I hear ya. I always say that I could never work for a charter school solely because of ethical reasons... but that's easy for me to say since I have a job in a school district that pays well with a ton of job security. My friends aunt works at a charter school because that's all she can get at the moment.
Re: UO
you realize you're calling a majority of people bad...because your son saw "porn" on an iPhone. How does he know what porn is? And how old are these sensitive children with iPhones?
Ps- trimming that quote and adding the image was very hard on the iPad. But I'm dedicated.
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MIL has great difficulty using the proper names and it drives me nuts even though DH and I have explained to her that we don't want the kids being taught the wrong words.
Thankfully the kids are with me more, so they will just think she is weird. Lol.
Also, when DD was a preschooler and asked why I was bleeding in the shower, I explained my period to her. She was okay with it.
She still knows more than most of her class about anatomy.
I guess overall, my UO:
I think parents should teach kids young, especially when asked, about their bodies.
* I had never heard the word penis until I was 10 and vagina around age 11. Clitoris? 16?
IMO that was late, too late, but my mom never talked about anything like that.
With that said, you need much more than knowledge to be a good teacher.
@mommyKT310 your comment implies that all you need to be a good teacher is content knowledge. So not true! I have seen teachers who hold doctorates struggle to be good high school teachers, because they lack the skill to teach. Teaching is a combination of many skills, knowledge is just one of them!
I will always send my kids to public school. I think meeting new people, making new friends, dealing with disappointment, learning to juggle different classes, turning in work on time, etc. are invaluable life lessons.
Lastly, saying that there are more bad public schools than good is just not true. A majority of teachers really care about their students, and their education. They are not in it for the pay!
I think for one we are talking about infants who have no choice but be subjected to whomever you chose to be around vs school age children who can learn how to communicated and discuss things they feel or that you have taught them are innapropriate.
DH and his siblings had SO many opportunities while being home-schooled. They had home-school groups where they went to different houses every week and had a different style of teaching, they went on field trips to museums, the zoo, NASA, etc. As a family, they could go on vacations whenever they wanted. They were apart of church groups, little league, boy scouts, etc.
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Education is super important to me . We've already been saving for Harper to go to the VERY best private school in our county. That's our choice . And my child wont be to stupid she cant go to college ! what I meant by my statement was that who cares where your kids go to school. As long as the get an education it doesn't matter if its private , public, home school. Parents are going to choose what best suites their family.
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** BFP 2 : 01- 05-15 ** EDD 09-11-15 **
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If I misunderstood what are you saying, I apologize.
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Where I grew up, I had never heard of anyone homeschooling.
I now know several families that do it.
I think if they have the ability, patience and smarts to do it, great.
Honestly, sometimes I think my DD would do better homeschooled than at public school, but I don't have the patience to try it myself. Maybe I can find a private full time tutor. :-?
These are some main issues I have...
1) Public education must (and should) educate all students regardless of who they are and how they act. Charter schools can simply return students back to their public school if they don't behave.
2) Charter schools get money from the public education budget for each child that enrolls but this hurts public ed funding substantially.
3) The achievement gap has not improved since the advent of Charter schools.
4) Because of reason #1, I would argue that they could possibly be a significant reason why reason #3 is still a problem.
This is not to say ALL charter schools are evil but the foundation of their existence is wrong and the few charter schools that are "doing it right" doesn't quite make up for it.
I would even argue that if a charter school is "doing it right" it would not be with practices that are sustainable on a national level... And isn't the point to improve education for all? Why not just invest in public education so that everyone can benefit?