Holy shitballs. I would be furious as well and would never allow her to take the kids anywhere again- and it would take serious convincing to even let her watch them. Wow. I am super angry for you!
Seriously all I keep thinking is if someone would have hit them my baby wouldn't be here anymore. And then I cry and hug her. Ugh maybe I shouldn't go to this talk.
(((Hugs))) try not to think about the "could haves". I get it though because I obsess over "could haves". The most important thing is that your LO is ok and you know about it!!
No response yet this morning. And yes dh is 100% on my side. He was thinking we should take the weekend to think about what we want to do for sure because this will end the relationship with her, but after last night he agrees that she isn't remorseful at all and that's a bad sign.
No response yet this morning. And yes dh is 100% on my side. He was thinking we should take the weekend to think about what we want to do for sure because this will end the relationship with her, but after last night he agrees that she isn't remorseful at all and that's a bad sign.
I am guessing she throws these tantrums often and then follows the tantrums with guilt if they don't work?
Do you have a good relationship with her otherwise? I will admit to walking away from one of our parents because of a very similar relationship. It became way too toxic because of similar reactions and boundary issues. It was tough but at some point it actually becomes what is best. I am not saying you should immediately jump to that but it's really her choice to end the relationship, not yours.
You are simply saying- My child is my priority, this is how it is going to be. It's your choice how you react to that. You are an adult. I am not responsible for your feelings.
Her twin sister was recently diagnosed with skin cancer so she has been really upset about that. She is saying that it's so insensitive of us to attack her this way when we know what she has been going through and that she really thought she raised him better than this.
Oh fuck her! Her sisters skin cancer has nothing to do with her stupidity. Fuck her with a fat one for trying to use her sisters disease like that and trying to make you all feel guilty.
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There’s a lightningin your eyes I can't deny Then there’s me inside a sinkingboat running out of time Without you I'll never make it out alive But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
No response yet this morning. And yes dh is 100% on my side. He was thinking we should take the weekend to think about what we want to do for sure because this will end the relationship with her, but after last night he agrees that she isn't remorseful at all and that's a bad sign.
I am guessing she throws these tantrums often and then follows the tantrums with guilt if they don't work?
Do you have a good relationship with her otherwise? I will admit to walking away from one of our parents because of a very similar relationship. It became way too toxic because of similar reactions and boundary issues. It was tough but at some point it actually becomes what is best. I am not saying you should immediately jump to that but it's really her choice to end the relationship, not yours.
You are simply saying- My child is my priority, this is how it is going to be. It's your choice how you react to that. You are an adult. I am not responsible for your feelings.
Yea this is pretty much her mo. I don't have much of a relationship but dh does as he is her only child. I'm sad for him if he loses that for good.
I literally have rage in my fucking chest reading this. Also, she is EXACTLY like my mother with the whole "maybe I should just go away - I raised you better than this." And you know what relationship I have with her? None. Because after years of that shit, I had kids and that line of thinking combined with the poorest of judgement is not something I will subject my kids to.
And really, if your DH backs down on this, I seriously can tell you that leaving him would be a very realistic option for me. Under no circumstances should the safety of my child (and we're not talking "safety" like something questionable!) be less important that the butthurts of a grown woman who proved to have less than zero common sense in a life and death situation.
Any posts about poor decision within a car makes me cry. My daughter would be dead if not for a properly installed carseat that she was properly secured in. Dead. We are lucky she did not die in the wreck she was in, even being in the carseat. I do not get how
There are no excuses, no second chances, not in my book. This woman would never be allowed alone with DD again. And her reaction is bizarre. She should be on her hands and knees begging your forgiveness. She should be completely understanding of why you are so upset.
And, this is just the one time that your daughter was there to witness things. What else has happened? I am, like, shaking mad for you.
Any posts about poor decision within a car makes me cry. My daughter would be dead if not for a properly installed carseat that she was properly secured in. Dead. We are lucky she did not die in the wreck she was in, even being in the carseat. I do not get how
There are no excuses, no second chances, not in my book. This woman would never be allowed alone with DD again. And her reaction is bizarre. She should be on her hands and knees begging your forgiveness. She should be completely understanding of why you are so upset.
And, this is just the one time that your daughter was there to witness things. What else has happened? I am, like, shaking mad for you.
the bolded is exactly what keeps going through my mind. What else has she done that we don't know about. There were tons of other options and she chose the ONE choice that endangered my daughters life.
Also, we asked her last night through text what she would have done if dd's babysitter had done this and we found out. She said that would be totally different be cause she is grandma so she would do anything to protect her and a babysitter wouldn't. We said it is no different. We chose you as care taker for our daughter, grandma or not. We trusted that you would keep her safe and make safe decisions for her, and you didn't. That's when she started with the well maybe I should just go away forever.
omg, she just text DH and said she was sorry for everything she said and that she won't ever do it again and she knows how wrong it was. She just wants one more chance and she won't take DD anywhere again until she is old enough to not be in a car seat.
I seriously want to bang my head against my desk because that is what she got out of this whole exchange.
omg, she just text DH and said she was sorry for everything she said and that she won't ever do it again and she knows how wrong it was. She just wants one more chance and she won't take DD anywhere again until she is old enough to not be in a car seat.
I seriously want to bang my head against my desk because that is what she got out of this whole exchange.
I have to know what DH's reaction to this text was?
I honestly read this thread with my mouth hanging open in shock- I don't understand how full grown adults can not grasp the concept here.
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omg, she just text DH and said she was sorry for everything she said and that she won't ever do it again and she knows how wrong it was. She just wants one more chance and she won't take DD anywhere again until she is old enough to not be in a car seat.
I seriously want to bang my head against my desk because that is what she got out of this whole exchange.
I have to know what DH's reaction to this text was?
I honestly read this thread with my mouth hanging open in shock- I don't understand how full grown adults can not grasp the concept here.
he forwarded it to me and said "I just don't get it" and didn't respond to her.
Man, she's dense. So when your daughter is old enough to be out of a car seat she'll be in a booster and then in a regular belt. The concept of safety still applies and she isn't grasping that. At all. And if you couldn't trust her to use the seat she knew she had to use, why the hell does she think she should be trusted to stick to her word and not take her anywhere? Newp.
No response yet this morning. And yes dh is 100% on my side. He was thinking we should take the weekend to think about what we want to do for sure because this will end the relationship with her, but after last night he agrees that she isn't remorseful at all and that's a bad sign.
I am guessing she throws these tantrums often and then follows the tantrums with guilt if they don't work?
Do you have a good relationship with her otherwise? I will admit to walking away from one of our parents because of a very similar relationship. It became way too toxic because of similar reactions and boundary issues. It was tough but at some point it actually becomes what is best. I am not saying you should immediately jump to that but it's really her choice to end the relationship, not yours.
You are simply saying- My child is my priority, this is how it is going to be. It's your choice how you react to that. You are an adult. I am not responsible for your feelings.
Yea this is pretty much her mo. I don't have much of a relationship but dh does as he is her only child. I'm sad for him if he loses that for good.
Honestly- I would feel for him too- but if she is willing to lose a relationship with her ONLY son because she refuses to follow his rules about his child... Then she is an asshole and shame on her!
omg, she just text DH and said she was sorry for everything she said and that she won't ever do it again and she knows how wrong it was. She just wants one more chance and she won't take DD anywhere again until she is old enough to not be in a car seat.
I seriously want to bang my head against my desk because that is what she got out of this whole exchange.
I have to know what DH's reaction to this text was?
I honestly read this thread with my mouth hanging open in shock- I don't understand how full grown adults can not grasp the concept here.
he forwarded it to me and said "I just don't get it" and didn't respond to her.
Glad you guys are firmly on the same team.
I think it might be a good idea to give it a few days to let her really think about what could have happened. She seems to be in panic mode right now and nothing good can come out of trying to have a serious discussion when someone is in panic mode.
She is not thinking clearly. She needs to take some time and think about what she did, why she did it, and why you and DH are taking the stance you are taking. Until that happens, it would be fruitless to continue talking to her.
Dh responded with " we talked last night, and we really feel like this babysitting arrangement is putting too much strain on our relationship with you. We all love you, and want you to be a huge part of our lives but we feel like it would be beneficial to everyone involved if we found alternative childcare for dd. We will be happy to bring her to see you anytime, but we feel that our views on what is best for her differ too much and we don't want to ruin our relationship any further."
Dh responded with " we talked last night, and we really feel like this babysitting arrangement is putting too much strain on our relationship with you. We all love you, and want you to be a huge part of our lives but we feel like it would be beneficial to everyone involved if we found alternative childcare for dd. We will be happy to bring her to see you anytime, but we feel that our views on what is best for her differ too much and we don't want to ruin our relationship any further."
Dh responded with " we talked last night, and we really feel like this babysitting arrangement is putting too much strain on our relationship with you. We all love you, and want you to be a huge part of our lives but we feel like it would be beneficial to everyone involved if we found alternative childcare for dd. We will be happy to bring her to see you anytime, but we feel that our views on what is best for her differ too much and we don't want to ruin our relationship any further."
I'm sure that will get a very mature response 8-|
Seriously, bravo to this. I hope your MIL gets her head out of her ass, realizes she raised a great son, and takes responsibility for her actions and learns from them.
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There’s a lightning in your eyes I can't deny
Then there’s me inside a sinking boat running out of time
Without you I'll never make it out alive
But I know, yes, I know we’ll be alright
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Yea this is pretty much her mo. I don't have much of a relationship but dh does as he is her only child. I'm sad for him if he loses that for good.
Any posts about poor decision within a car makes me cry. My daughter would be dead if not for a properly installed carseat that she was properly secured in. Dead. We are lucky she did not die in the wreck she was in, even being in the carseat. I do not get how
There are no excuses, no second chances, not in my book. This woman would never be allowed alone with DD again. And her reaction is bizarre. She should be on her hands and knees begging your forgiveness. She should be completely understanding of why you are so upset.
And, this is just the one time that your daughter was there to witness things. What else has happened? I am, like, shaking mad for you.
the bolded is exactly what keeps going through my mind. What else has she done that we don't know about. There were tons of other options and she chose the ONE choice that endangered my daughters life.
Also, we asked her last night through text what she would have done if dd's babysitter had done this and we found out. She said that would be totally different be cause she is grandma so she would do anything to protect her and a babysitter wouldn't. We said it is no different. We chose you as care taker for our daughter, grandma or not. We trusted that you would keep her safe and make safe decisions for her, and you didn't. That's when she started with the well maybe I should just go away forever.
omg, she just text DH and said she was sorry for everything she said and that she won't ever do it again and she knows how wrong it was. She just wants one more chance and she won't take DD anywhere again until she is old enough to not be in a car seat.
I seriously want to bang my head against my desk because that is what she got out of this whole exchange.
I have to know what DH's reaction to this text was?
I honestly read this thread with my mouth hanging open in shock- I don't understand how full grown adults can not grasp the concept here.
~*~*~You're Such A Pretty Melody, I'm Just Another Tattooed Tragedy~*~*~
Honestly- I would feel for him too- but if she is willing to lose a relationship with her ONLY son because she refuses to follow his rules about his child... Then she is an asshole and shame on her!
Glad you guys are firmly on the same team.
I think it might be a good idea to give it a few days to let her really think about what could have happened. She seems to be in panic mode right now and nothing good can come out of trying to have a serious discussion when someone is in panic mode.
She is not thinking clearly. She needs to take some time and think about what she did, why she did it, and why you and DH are taking the stance you are taking. Until that happens, it would be fruitless to continue talking to her.
Dh responded with " we talked last night, and we really feel like this babysitting arrangement is putting too much strain on our relationship with you. We all love you, and want you to be a huge part of our lives but we feel like it would be beneficial to everyone involved if we found alternative childcare for dd. We will be happy to bring her to see you anytime, but we feel that our views on what is best for her differ too much and we don't want to ruin our relationship any further."
I'm sure that will get a very mature response 8-|